The most important things to bear in mind is that these squads have been compiled by the website.
THEY ARE NOT PROVIDED BY THE SCHOOLS LISTED &
THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT OFFICIAL AND NOT COMPLETE
The lists merely serve as a database guideline of known players who stand a chance of playing 1st XV rugby for their schools this season.
CLIFTON | # | DHS | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
PR | Calvin Zandamela | 1 | PR | Hero Mpanza |
PR | Christopher Turner | 2 | PR | Christiaan de Jager |
PR | Jordan O’Connor | 3 | PR | Sulakhe Nhassengo |
HK | Ivan Jiran | 4 | HK | Aphiwe Febana |
HK | Michael Brakspear | 5 | HK | Steven Waites |
LK | Oliver Milne | 6 | LK | Khulu Ndlovu |
LK | Luke Appelgryn | 7 | LK | Liam Whitfield |
LK | Andrew Evans | 8 | LK | Ryan Dafel |
FL | Cameron Maingard | 9 | LK | Jordan Clark |
FL | Ruben Vosloo | 10 | LK | Joshua Spooner |
#8 | Calen Erskine | 11 | FL | Brandon de Meillon |
SH | Janek Masojada-Edwards | 12 | FL | Matthew Hamilton |
FH | Finn Cleaver | 13 | FL | Njabulo Hlatshwayo |
FH | Rory Scott | 14 | FL | Ziphozile Mngcete |
CT | Guy Arbuthnot | 15 | FL | Aza Tshutsha |
CT | Karl Goedeke | 16 | #8 | Mthokozisi Ntuli |
WG | Massimo Conversano | 17 | #8 | Sibusiso Mkhalaphi |
WG | Ilias Sourlis | 18 | SH | Matthew Everitt |
WG | Cayden Porter | 19 | SH | Gareth Simpson |
FB | Herdon | 20 | SH | Ryan Loxton |
0 | C. Munz | 21 | SH | Seth Walker |
0 | Ryan Slotow | 22 | FH | Gert Coetzee |
0 | O. Koch | 23 | FH | Matthew Noot |
0 | Goosen | 24 | CT | Luyanda Ndabandaba |
0 | Max du Plooy | 25 | CT | Muhammad Vorajee |
0 | K Larkin | 26 | CT | Dillon Bryan |
27 | CT | Mvumelei Mathenjwa | ||
28 | WG | Mitchell Chambers | ||
29 | WG | Libo Mngomezulu | ||
30 | WG | Thando Mazibuko | ||
31 | WG | Dale Vermaak | ||
32 | FB | Dalvon Horsley | ||
33 | FB | Mabhutana Peter | ||
GEORGE CAMPBELL | GLENWOOD | |||
PR | Reynhardt Dippenaar | 1 | PR | Khutha Mchuna |
PR | Ndabenhle Zulu | 2 | PR | Ferdie Pieterse |
PR | Mondli Mtshali | 3 | PR | Reinier Van Rooyen |
PR | Douglas Phillips | 4 | PR | Christopher Klopper |
HK | Daine Venter | 5 | HK | Conor Botha |
HK | Quinten Jordan | 6 | LK | Arno Venter |
LK | Rian Du Preez | 7 | LK | Lencho Brynard |
LK | Jesse Rutter | 8 | FL | Kwenzo Blose |
FL | Vuyolethu Ngalo | 9 | FL | Nama Xaba |
FL | Sihle Biyana | 10 | FL | Kevin Smit |
FL | Thami Phewa | 11 | #8 | Austin Brummer |
#8 | Sisa Sibiya | 12 | #8 | Marco Palvie |
SH | Ruan De Beer-Wild | 13 | SH | Sibonakaliso Dubazane |
SH | Wayne Ngubane | 14 | FH | Franke Botha |
FH | Alanas Alasakous | 15 | FH | Jerome Bossr |
CT | Ntokozo Khumalo | 16 | FH | Maarten Holtzhauzen |
CT | Innocent Nkomo | 17 | CT | Seun Maduna |
WG | Siyabonga Thwala | 18 | CT | Gerald Ekron |
WG | Devan Palmer | 19 | CT | Ruan van Rensburg |
WG | Johan De Beer | 20 | CT | Donovan Du Randt |
UB | Anele Nxumalo | 21 | CT | Andre Van Der Merwe |
FB | Rudy Havenga | 22 | WG | Ilunga Mukendi |
23 | WG | GJ Lubbe | ||
24 | WG | Bogumusa Khumalo | ||
25 | WG | Hilton De Jager | ||
26 | FB | Jayden Morgan | ||
HILTON | KEARSNEY | |||
PR | Andrew Peverelle | 1 | PR | Nicholas Luyt |
PR | Nick Smith | 2 | PR | Greg van Noordwyk |
PR | Adam Holdcroft | 3 | PR | Nicholas Hudson |
PR | Sakhile Nyembezi | 4 | HK | David Brown |
PR | Marnich Aucamp | 5 | HK | Joshua Hagemann |
HK | Nick Lello | 6 | LK | Robert Polkinghorne |
LK | Jean Nel | 7 | LK | Dylan De Lange |
LK | Nkanyiso Nzimande | 8 | LK | Ryan Lewarne |
LK | Matt Swan | 9 | FL | Cian Waugh |
FL | Etienne Marx | 10 | FL | Tristan Dixon |
FL | Fortune Phiri | 11 | FL | Justin Wilkes |
FL | Nic Warren | 12 | FL | James Redman |
FL | Mathew MacKenzie | 13 | FL | Justin Faber |
#8 | Sebastian Desvaux de Marigny | 14 | FL | Luke Croshaw |
SH | Matt Dahl | 15 | #8 | Joshua van Vuuren |
FH | Angus Curtis | 16 | #8 | Jared Meyer |
FH | Daniel Hirshowitz | 17 | SH | Brendan Vorster |
CT | Daniel Loftus | 18 | SH | Warren Driver |
CT | Mathew Little | 19 | FH | Cameron Ritchie |
WG | Darren McGhee | 20 | CT | Sebastian Pau |
WG | Cameron Badenhorst | 21 | CT | James Tedder |
WG | Sam Hyatt | 22 | WG | Matthew Watts |
FB | Keaton Bottriell | 23 | WG | Nicholas Hoare |
24 | WG | Chase Dunnett | ||
25 | WG | Sibuso Hadebe | ||
26 | FB | Mitchell Nesbit | ||
MARITZBURG COLLEGE | NORTHWOOD | |||
PR | Tanaka Chikwezero | 1 | PR | Grant Plaaitjies |
PR | Matthew King | 2 | PR | Eugene van Wyk |
PR | Andrew Reintges | 3 | PR | Nathan Fincham |
PR | Vaughn Bentley | 4 | PR | Gareth Swain |
PR | Matthew Smith | 5 | HK | Nthutko Mthembu |
HK | Sam Swanepoel | 6 | HK | Cameron Silson |
LK | Brad Muil | 7 | HK | Josh Tucker |
LK | Tim Jaravani | 8 | LK | Phillip Jansen |
LK | Durang Atembe | 9 | LK | Brandon Fynn |
LK | Etienne Kritzinger | 10 | LK | Craig Trollip |
FL | Kelton Thunder | 11 | FL | Keagan Sparks |
FL | Lindilie Madondo | 12 | FL | Daniel Humphreys |
FL | Bjorn Olivier | 13 | FL | Viwe Makhuhula |
FL | Luke Johnson | 14 | #8 | Zandre Griffin |
#8 | Craig Glover | 15 | #8 | Kyle Jooste |
#8 | Luke Commons | 16 | SH | Ryan Symminton |
SH | Lodewyk Muller | 17 | SH | Thabiso Dlamini |
SH | Corey Rattray | 18 | FH | Nto Sibisi |
SH | Kyle Bowman | 19 | FH | Dihan van Dyk |
FH | Daniel Griffith | 20 | CT | PK Sibohale |
FH | Jordan Holloway | 21 | CT | Jason Daniels |
FH | Ruben van Blerk | 22 | CT | Josh Pretorius |
FH | Juan De Wet | 23 | WG | Cameron Stanley |
CT | Charl Frackers | 24 | WG | Jadon Stevens |
CT | Kudzai Munangi | 25 | FB | Safiso Gininda |
CT | Gideon Thamahane | 26 | FB | Harry Dunbar |
CT | Ayanda Duma | 27 | ||
CT | Spa Lithgow-Magwaza | 28 | ||
WG | Lyle Getkate | 29 | ||
WG | Xolisa Guma | 30 | ||
FB | Matt Kriel | 31 | ||
ST CHARLES | WESTVILLE | |||
PR | Thoko Sokela | 1 | PR | Jordan Els |
PR | Duncan du Buisson | 2 | PR | Shaun Stoltz |
PR | Hendrik Pretorius | 3 | PR | Beast Mtabela |
HK | John Rae | 4 | HK | Damian Lee |
HK | Domenic Robert | 5 | HK | Hendrik Prinsloo |
LK | William Squires | 6 | LK | Sibabalo Qoma |
LK | Charl van Lingen | 7 | LK | JP Pelser |
LK | Thys van Lingen | 8 | LK | Tiaan Smith |
FL | Sbu Mkhize | 9 | FL | Devon Muller |
FL | Keegan Jones | 10 | FL | Zane Heyneke |
FL | George Oosthuizen | 11 | FL | Donovan Grant |
FL | Blake Chubb | 12 | #8 | Keegan Nicholson |
SH | Dylan Norris | 13 | #8 | Andrew Moon |
SH | Craig van der Merwe | 14 | #8 | Shaun Bell |
FH | Jeremy Davidson | 15 | SH | Bryce Kitching |
FH | Stefan Rieth | 16 | SH | Denham Pitt |
CT | MT Nene | 17 | FH | Craig Schlemmer |
CT | Tyler Sharply | 18 | FH | Neil Van Rooyen |
CT | Sindile Sibisi | 19 | FH | Michael Merensky |
WG | Declan Cox | 20 | CT | Teagan Strydom |
WG | Cameron Brown | 21 | CT | James Wheeler |
WG | Fezu Mbuli | 22 | CT | Mpilo Shange |
23 | CT | Brogan Boulle | ||
24 | WG | Tony Mhlangu | ||
25 | WG | Sishle Mhlamvu | ||
26 | WG | Siphe Buthelezi | ||
27 | WG | Daniel Graham | ||
28 | FB | Shane Ball | ||
MICHAELHOUSE | ||||
(Players with 1st XV caps) | ||||
PR | Anele Songca | 1 | ||
PR | Lee-Marvin Mazibuko | 2 | ||
HK | Matthew Wiseman | 3 | ||
LK | Jordan Sinsink-Clee | 4 | ||
FL | Zander Prinsloo | 5 | ||
FL | Jack Walters | 6 | ||
#8 | Mulalo Sadiki | 7 | ||
SH | Nicholas Anderson | 8 | ||
SH | Billy Dean | 9 | ||
FH | Bader Pretorius | 10 | ||
FH | Ryan Anderson | 11 | ||
CT | Luke Tomlinson | 12 | ||
CT | Liam Furniss | 13 | ||
CT | David Karam | 14 | ||
WG | Frank Goble | 15 | ||
WG | Tyrone Thompson | 16 | ||
FB | Victor Foster | 17 |
Pedantic
well stated – too much Mud slinging so early in the season
As usual I look forward to what has to be one of the best Rugby festivals in Sa – Kerf
@GreenBlooded: Eish I’ll try my best. It’s not a bad idea from a continuity perspective. I’ve been asked to sort out EC and NV 1st squads as well.
Anyone with info on KZN u16 please email me
@beet:
Speaking of U16 – maybe a sneak-peak into the U16 squads is in order with possible Grant Khomo selections?
@beet: Ah and probably still not bulky enough, very lanky. Give him a year to mature a bit more, he certainly has the physical attributes to be a big and good lock…
@Grasshopper: The SARU rules prevent JJ from playing for or against any team that contains an u19 player. He is u16
@umbiloburger: I watched Brummer last year and thought he might push for a place in the 1st XV backrow alongside Palvie and possibly Smit now, which made me think that Gwd might try Xaba at lock?
Why is JJ van der Mescht not in the squad, certainly tall enough but maybe not old enough yet…
@Grasshopper: Just for the record the tight five aren’t new. Locks are probably going to be Blose and Brynard and the front row could be Klopper, Botha and Mchunu. Only Mchunu, who started last year is new.
The Grogper is going to be interesting too!
DHS is brewing too, watch out for them as a dark horse. With Glenhout bringing in a heavy tight 5 they going to be very tough to beat, especially with their immense speed in the backs…Mukendi, Du Randt and Morgan. Their loose forwards are going to be immense too, Xaba, Smit and Palvie would scare most teams…….Michaelhouse is always bubbling under…….especially with their young flyhalf poised to make his mark..
@Pedantic: The interesting thing about this season is that no school has stand out teams. Last year GW, MC and WEST and others all had good teams. It now comes back to school traditional strength and who wants it more. It’s going to be a good season. I cannot see any team running away with big scores like we had in 2014. IMO I would worry about MHS. They just seem to get the combinations right.
@Grasshopper: You are so wrong Hopper. You are an amazing young man with a huge future ahead of you. You just need some mature guidance every now and again.
@Anti Green: not sure you correct about either….Glenwood had their 1st expulsion last year through La Marque’s efforts. In this day and age I challenge anyone to get that right!!! Focussing on who we are surely shouldn’t be important, unless that’s the game you play. But being called him…..not a bad thing.
@SBR Fan: The thread started out in the right veign with a few players being discussed – it then turned into the usual anti GW fest which I must admit is getting rather boring.
I would be far more interested in views of the unknown player’s rugby talents than when they joined the school and how they were recruited.
An example is young Bossr – he looks an interesting prospect, anyone have any opinions about his style of play / prospective talent?
Looking at the squads it looks like we will have a great 2015 in KZN with most of the teams looking pretty even – Glenwood, who seem to have a lot of depth once again should have the edge on everyone else though.
Is this site only for people with chips on their shoulders or for those who actually enjoy all schoolboy rugby?
@Grasshopper: Morning Hopper, Umbiloburger is ***. Nothing will happen he is all hot air
@beet: Would that be such a bad thing? As I said the more oversight the better.
@star: No I meant emotional attachment as in a connection to the team, the school, the players on the receiving end of the misconduct/bad sportsmanship etc. Nothing to do with the result.
The karma will come in the form of a tit for tat. Next time a WBHS boy steps out of line you can now almost bet your bottom dollar you and all the other bloggers will be informed about it.
@umbiloburger: Unfortunately I do not have the names. I could give the locale but that might just create a witch hunt.
@ Beet- Are you implying that I only saying this because of the emotional attachment and because of the fact that we were being beaten then I am being misjudged again. One of the great lessons in life is to be as gracious in defeat as in victory. Please refer to my previous comments when GW beat Westville last year. ( and they would have been the same if there was an emotional connection) There might have been some frustration with the individual concerned if he did not give of his best but certainly not an over exaggerated rant as has been presented. The fact is when the comment was made GW were actually under the kosh. And you must remember this is cricket not the hurly burly on rugby and so yes I have never experienced this before and I doubt you would have either . I am not sure of the karma comment though Must I look for falling objects.
@Gungets Tuft: hahahah, yeah…..but he doesn’t like me so he can stay in the room alone….
@Grasshopper: You and Umbiloburger need to get a room.
@umbiloburger: You definitely sound like a staff member, now to see which one…***?
@star: May I suggest that you send the names and a brief statement of the incident to either Pinheiro or La Marque. This is unacceptable and they will be dealt with severely, including the staff member.
@GreenBlooded: You have often said take a position ” any position”. I just wanted to know yours. What are these correct channels? You mean behind closed doors which yourself have said are filled with “yes” men. Really. What confidence does that inspire Maybe the system needs more oversight from the public at large.
I honestly do not understand your last comment about it being pointless to preach about GW boys to me.
@star: Yeah Star when these kinds of incidents go hand in hand with an emotional attachment of any sort to the team on the receiving end then one can understand why takes on a personal nature and results in more concern or unhappiness.
Like GB I’m not condoning the acts but I have to say that these sort of things happen at all schools and the minute you finger another school in public you have to realise that you just unleashed Karma to get you back in some way or another.
In the past GB himself has briefly shared a few details of his experiences as a ref with me and trust me it would annoy anyone to hear what some of the school kids have to say to an adult forget about kids their own ages.
I’ve also seen and heard quite a few unpleasant things as a spectator. But admittedly a lot easier to accept when having no personal attachment to whatever is said/done.
@Grasshopper: Hi. You will see that I did mention Venter in a earlier post. However, it is my understanding that he is back at Stoffberg.
@star: OK, then take it through the right channels, email or call to the Glenwood Headmaster or Master of Discipline at the school. I can give you both email addresses.
@ Grassy- I actually agree with you re Westville boys greeting adults. I think of all the schools they are near the bottom and need to work on that aspect. You see criticism can be taken constructively, This however is a different level when a young spectator verbally abuses a visiting player and the coach present does nothing. One boy said the whole experience was the worst sportsmanship he had ever had to deal with. Don’t be like GB and keep on shooting the messenger.
@star:
Condone it? Ag please man!! Tell me what advantage there is posting that here instead of sending your story to TK where I’m sure it would get dealt with in the correct manner. I dealt with a matter involving some Westville boys in this manner a few years back – and it was dealt with decisively by the school and forgotten about. The incident didn’t appear on these pages at all. If you have an agenda – it’s very easy to find anecdotes to color the picture with whilst discarding the many anecdotes that don’t suit.
I won’t try and preach about Glenwood boys to you – what would be the point?
@star: Here is a little story for you, visited Westville the other day, not one kid greeted me at the pick-up point in Dunbar Rd as I walked past…..teachers and headmasters can’t control all behaviour. There are always some rotten eggs in the mix….
@GreenBlooded: Take a stand .You either you think I am exaggerating ( to suit an ” Agenda” )or you condone that behaviour. The fact is I have actually understated the situation. There seems to be a huge split in patterns at GW. Numerous boys greeted me and were incredibly pleasant and then you had the above. Just as confusing as your posts where one minute you are the great apologist and next the critic. Same with Grassy. My only agenda is good process with an acknowledgement that none of us is perfect. Read the book from Good to Great and you might understand the importance of correct emphasis. And lastly please do not pretend to understand me until we meet face to face and to use the diminutive ” little anecdote” I would hope would be beneath you. Stop fighting the perceived ” haters” and “conspirators” and take a look over your shoulder once and a while.
@star:
Why don’t you post your little anecdote on the Opinion section of News24.com? I’m sure it would enjoy reach a far greater audience that way which would better suit your agenda. Or write a letter to the Mercury?
@star: I’m assuming you talking cricket here?
I heard the complete opposite about Bossr from the horses mouth so to speak, he left his Kallis scholarship at Selborne to concentrate on his rugby at the Glenhout Academy…..
@ Pedantic@ Greenblooded- you have missed a huge step in the Kevin Smit saga( think part of the reason Staples left for GW) and so your comments are off base.( whatever your personal opinions might be).
I don’t know if it was the 6 hours of load shedding I have just had to endure
but I feel the need to express my utter disappointment at the attitude displayed by ” some” of the GW boys yesterday. When a grade 8/9 lightie verbally abuses a Westville 1st team player on the boundary in front of a coach who does nothing, when the Westville captain walks and instead of being applauded gets given the finger and escorted off the field and when a request made for a runner for an injured Westville player is declined when the game is all but over then I think a good hard look in the mirror is required. What is really sad is that I know some of these boys and that is not in their normal nature? Is this what school boy sports has become and what we have to look forward to? If so then I am glad my son is in matric so I do not have to be a witness. I believe a Westville swimmer was also a target from a certain school. If that had succeeded then there would have been a complete fall out. I feel we are that close.
@Gungets Tuft: Pretty sharp…..attack the man and not the topic. Also a brilliant way to create a smoke screen to avoid the real issue. Next time I chat to Toppy and Leif at BBC it will be our discussion point.
@umbiloburger: Do you have any contacts in the Glenwood English Academy, I am trying to clear something up regarding “ad hominem”. I just can’t seem to think of a proper application for the phrase in real life. Perhaps they can help out?
@Gungets Tuft: good spot, PBHS & KES are exceptions to this as the schools are aligned in thinking, traditions etc and can provide games for all the teams. Traveling to Monnas to play 12 games for Glenwood is daft. Now Framesby. It’s not hard to call up Jeppe, KES and PBHS and say keen to play a game each year?
@Grasshopper: College greatly value the annual matches against out of province opponents, I single out PBHS in particular. They are so incredibly similar to us in almost all respects. I look forward to their visit here, we have hosted the same kids 4 years in a row, and they have reciprocated on the return fixture. It’s a true derby in every sense.
To start with an EC tour on a regular basis, Eeisch, I drive that a few times a year and it’s not for the faint hearted. It’s going to be 12 hours in a bus ….
@Grasshopper: In my opinion, a better fixture list for GW is:
– Play two or three schools twice (MC & Westville and DHS when they’re a bit stronger) – i.e. 6 games.
– Play the other Tier 1 schools once – i.e. 4 games.
– Each Tier 1 school should play one or two Tier 2 schools like they do in W Cape – i.e. 2 games.
– Easter Festival – 3 games.
– Wildeklawer – 2 games.
Total = 17 games.
@Grasshopper: I was useless at rugby, 8 th team candidate, but we supported all the teams and the 1 st team was seen as the ultimate achievement. When playing we tried our best with the limited talent bestowed on us. After the game we would look forward to next years game as we knew we would play them again. Todays kids might not play the same opposition next year
@kosie: true! I would be a happy Old boy if we just played our 7 main rivals twice a year and forgot all this traveling. Festivals are there to play against other provincial schools, 3 games there and 14 local makes 17 a year, perfect!
@Grasshopper: Get your point. Seems school tradition is good as long as its my school tradition and everybody else is therefore wrong
How a school can have a derby 600km’s away is crazy, it’s not a derby then. A derby for Glenwood is DHS, Westville, Kearsney, Northwood, Hilton, Michaelhouse & College…within 100km radius max!
@kosie: add that location…..
@kosie: yep, but previously it was language, culture, ethos, age etc….seems that has been thrown out the window. I probably just need to accept traditions are a thing of the past and now it’s a free for all….sad times…..
@Grasshopper: The common thread with all schools is RUGBY. Some just take it more serious than others
@beet: spot on, why travel all that way when we have Hilton around the corner who can provide decent opposition if they coached & trained properly. It’s just madness! Also all these Afrikaans schools, why? We have nothing in common with Framesby! Or Affies or Monument….
@umbiloburger: I’d like to think I have good ties with Framesby so this isn’t an insult or anything but that long bus trip should serve as a reminder not just to Glenwood but to all the in KZN including Hilton that our schools need to keep working towards good relationships with each other and fostering a rugby environment where the local inter-schools competition remains strong and healthy. It’s not just the school at the top that needs to put the effort in, its the ones that are at the other end of the spectrum as well. Chase the Grey Bloem dream too hard or give up on trying to take on the big schools in the region could have the same end results in a few years time – more and more long bus trips to find suitable opponents. Framesby will give Glenwood a good go down in PE but is hardly ideal for Glenwood. The long trip will only be made by the A & B teams, while the majority of players stay at home.
Older folks talk fondly about the good old days when they would go to Currie’s Fountain to watch soccer. Soon talk about the days when fans would pack Kings Park to watch local rugby will be very much past tense. School rugby doesn’t have to go the same way but it’s going to take effort from all to retain the something special that still exists.
@umbiloburger: so why doesn’t this get out too?
@Grasshopper: Truth be told, if we really new what was going on behind the scenes at some prominent schools, we would all be horrified.
The 2015 season is going to a be a great one. I hear that MC have been training hard as have Westville and the others. I see GW have an interchange with Framesby this year. A loooonnnng bus trip awaits the green machine.
@umbiloburger: so he went from KES junior to Glenwood? That is fine if it was grade 8 and all within the rules. He just seemed to appear from nowhere. Poaching is wrong yes, you’ve seen the light. So because others are doing it doesn’t make it right. Schools should work together to stop it, but truth be told the headmasters love the glory & being able to get away with it. It’s no longer a Glenwood side it’s a Glenhout Barbarians side…..very different!
@umbiloburger:
Ja Okay. Not my normal style to have a go at him publicly – and I won’t continue it here. We can have a chat next time I see you. I do stand by my contentions though.
He is amazing at cricket and rugby….and probably anything else he does. At the moment his focus is on his cricket. But in this modern age, something has to give in order to be a champion in both.
@GreenBlooded: that is him.
@GreenBlooded: It is quite frustrating to read your comments on TK’s management style. Surely he hasn’t the ability to fool so many people so often!! I’m not trying to defend any wrong doing and this poaching thing is not isolated to GW, and if you’re honest, you will know that it isn’t. Even your beloved MC is guilty and so are most of the other schools. Surely we can let it go now and focus on the positive aspects. Purely because GW haven’t answered your questions as you would’ve wanted, you attack them in a public domain. Please men….poaching is wrong!!!!!! Most schools are doing it….move on.
@umbiloburger: It’s a pity that the Selborne boy is not playing. I watched the Glenwood v Affies u16A game last year and he was the star player in the GW team. In fact, GW u15A lost by some 35 points at home v Affies but the u16A lost by 15 points away, which is a big improvement – largely due to him I suspect.
@umbiloburger: Is that Michael Botha from around 1984/85?? Awesome player and great oke. Played hooker if memory serves?
@umbiloburger: Too be fair, guys coming from a Tier 2 school to Glenwood is probably OK, but those coming from Eldoraigne, Waterkloof, EG Jansen, Selborne etc is not on. I can take you a bet Bossr will play and probably be a key player…
@Grasshopper: Connors dad is Michael Botha, a prominent old boy who lives in JHB. He started in grade 8.
Chatted to a father who reassures me of the following
1) Khutha Mchuna – moved from Greytown to improve his rugby
2) Ferdie Pieterse – Rustenburg High (Not in the 1st team squad)
3) Christopher Klopper – Started in Grade 10
4) Arno Venter – (apparently in 2nd squad)
5) Kevin Smit – Westville
6) Connor Botha – Started at Glenwood in grade 8
7) Francke Botha – not sure but played U15A in grade 9
8) Jerome Bossr – Apparently not playing rugby to focus on cricket
9) Maarten Holtzhauzen – EG Jansen (Brother of recruited grade 7 player)
10) Gerald Ekron – who knows
Update, Arnoux Venter is from Hoerskool Stoffberg in the Valke region, same team as Holtzhausen. Recruited at GK week, so within the rules but still a recruit…
@Pedantic: Yes – we both know that to be the case with Smit – no Glenwood approach, simply a play who was unhappy where he was and felt is path upward would be better at GW.
Feasible then that some of the others could have similar circumstances?
@Grasshopper: Been out of control for a while now,but i really like your talk,keep at them boet this is bullshit,Bullyburger has a hand in this,of that i am sure.
@Pedantic: OK, so that leaves 9 imports….and this Umbiloburger is either a guy from year teaching (***,***), a coach/teacher I have met (won’t mention) or TK himself. They know who I am and want to quieten me, this won’t happen as long as there is freedom of speech or opinion in this democratic country. This recruitment is just plain wrong, but now even Dale are recruiting…..seems it’s spiralled out of control…
@umbiloburger: I should ask a certain hooker and basketball player when Connor arrived at Glenwood…
@Grasshopper: Just to take one off your list in GW’s defence … I understand the K Smit move involved no poaching but rather a student/parent approach to the school.
There will be plenty haters with this comment but I honestly feel it was a great move for Kevin as Westville have clearly under valued him as a rugby player.
@umbiloburger: You miss the point again, there are more than a handful recruited in some way, be it bursary or lured in other ways (promises, free tours etc). Let’s do a little count for you;
1) Khutha Mchuna – Greytown
2) Ferdie Pieterse – Rustenburg High
3) Christopher Klopper – Hoerskool Eldoraigne
4) Arno Venter – ?
5) Kevin Smit – Westville
6) Connor Botha – ? When did he start at Glenwood
7) Francke Botha – ?
8) Jerome Bossr – Selborne
9) Maarten Holtzhauzen – EG Jansen
10) Gerald Ekron – Afrikaans Hoerskool Kroonstad
So that is 10 out of 26, if that is not a Barbarian team then I don’t know.
In terms of my personal career it’s not really relevant here, the guys you talking too must have bad memories. I started in 4th’s in matric due to biased coaches who disliked me (Mr Woods) and ended up playing a few games 2nd’s. After school I played Varsity Under21A under Toppy (ask him), then Collegians Under21A off the bench and then Westville Under 21A and 1st’s…..stop trying to divert the topic, typical Glenwood tactics….attack a person to try and change the topic. The above is very difficult to defend…
@Grasshopper: hey hopper. On this list there are only four newcomers. How sure are you that they were recruited with bursaries etc? Also how does this compare with the other KZN Schools. In the GW tight five I can only think of 3 that are new. 4 out 26…..doesn’t sound like poaching to me. Anyway it’s the same old same old. Why do we have to start the year picking on good old TK. The man has worked miracles and placed GW on the map and then he gets shot……by members of his own army.
By the way when did you play 2nd team at GW? Asked some questions and the older crew don’t know you and the guys who were with you say you were a 5th team player at best. Means nothing to me, but just curious and had to ask the question.
BY the way Connor Botha and Lendho Brynard are GW Boys through and through. Brynard is Deputy Head Boy.
@Grasshopper: arrogance, because I’m stating facts? How many times more do I have to tell you that they beat prg , as far as I know, twice. And other strong tennis playing schools. That makes me arrogant? And gw was 86/6
@Beet: Yes, his parents still live in KZN.
@beet: Logic says he must play at 12 but i am not sure about the composition of the sarel team this year. I think to many backline players and thin in the forwards. Platteland logic then kicks in and everybody is played out of position. Will let you know as soon as team is finalised. First game should be around 7 to 14 February
@BOG: 100 for 5 is not over chasing 181, we have won from that position a few times. Regarding tennis, Glenwood has been the strongest in KZN for around a decade now, winning the Wayne Ferreira tourno along the way. Grey maybe stronger but it will be a tough outing if they played against each other. Your Grey arrogance is coming through now. I believe Stellenbosch is in fact the strongest tennis school in the country. Our no1 Damon Kesaris will give any no1 a fight. Having Kevin Curren as an Old Boy gives the boys belief!
@Grasshopper: Then GW must regard 86/6 as success. What of that reality, are you disputing? Back to the tennis. GCB. last year , presented and participated in several tournaments, including PRG, normally the strongest tennis school for boys in the Cape.. They (GCB) were rated number 1 in SA in 2014, based on results. How difficult is that to understand? “Thinking” and speculating is not part of the equation. And for your information, its not a fluke. Their tennis has always been strong in most years.
@upcountry: What position will he play this year?
@beet: Problem is that he was played at no 8 whole season last year and then to trials at no 12? He is also not bad at no 10 if you want a straight running 10. defense need some work though
@BOG: I have a slightly different result; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/1st-xi-enjoy-success-their-tour-eastern-cape
In terms of tennis not sure how Grey was selected but I can think of two stronger tennis schools from the Cape who should represent SA….
@Grasshopper: my apologies, it was a draw. In response to 191/9, gw was 86/6, a strong position. I think you misunderstood what I said about the tennis. Based on the results of last year, gcb will represent said schools abroad this year. It’s not speculation.
@beet: any relation to Ryno Rust?
@Grey Brak: I’ll look out for Daniel Rust at KERF. Do you know if his parents (still) live in KZN?
@upcountry: Thanks Upcountry.
I noticed that Xander Kriel who played for KZNCD is back at Sarel this year (still u18). He looked like a very useful centre during KZN trials so hopefully he can make that one step up to Craven Week. The compo will be tough though.
@beet: NO 18 Sanele Sithole (ex glencoe primary and Sarel cilliers) now at weston (and no poaching was involved)
OK, I need help here with the ? ones;
School in Grade 10
1 PR Khutha Mchuna Greytown
2 PR Ferdie Pieterse Rustenburg High
3 PR Reinier Van Rooyen Glenwood
4 PR Christopher Klopper Hoerskool Eldoraigne
5 HK Conor Botha ?
6 LK Arno Venter ?
7 LK Lencho Brynard ?
8 FL Kwenzo Blose Glenwood
9 FL Nama Xaba Glenwood
10 FL Kevin Smit Westville
11 #8 Austin Brummer Glenwood
12 #8 Marco Palvie Glenwood
13 SH Sibonakaliso Dubazane Glenwood
14 FH Franke Botha ?
15 FH Jerome Bossr Selborne
16 FH Maarten Holtzhauzen EG Jansen
17 CT Seun Maduna Glenwood
18 CT Gerald Ekron Afrikaans Hoerskool Kroonstad
19 CT Ruan van Rensburg Glenwood
20 CT Donovan Du Randt Glenwood
21 CT Andre Van Der Merwe Glenwood
22 WG Ilunga Mukendi Glenwood
23 WG GJ Lubbe Glenwood
24 WG Bogumusa Khumalo Glenwood
25 WG Hilton De Jager Glenwood
26 FB Jayden Morgan Glenwood
@Slam: Not sure that you are correct with regards to Venter and van der Merwe.
I believe only Holtzhausen from the Valke actually went to Glenwood. I believe Arnoux Venter from the Valke started there in 2015 ( Grade 11 ), but I heard that he is back at his old school ( Stoffberg ) again.
6 boys from the Valke u16 team received offers.
I believe the Van Der Merwe you are referring to, is still at EG Jansen.
@Grasshopper: Dont forget about Bosser,so we heading to the 6 we all heard about.Early days still
@Grasshopper: When did you play 1st team there?
@Grasshopper: Throw in Ekron who played for the Griffons at GK in 2013.
Found all this out using google
@Slam: ok, so were they the 3 poached at GK? I would love to list the players and what school they were at in grade 10. Kloppers is quite new too. Where is Gilbey at hooker?
@Grasshopper: He’s from the Valke. Played for the GK side in 2014. Holtzhausen and van der Merwe were also in the that Valke Side. Van der Merwe looks like a big lad….over 100kgs
I wonder where Arno Venter came from? Heard he is over 2m tall!
@Redblack White: haha! Luckily he wasn’t ‘box less’ that would have been very sore!
@Redblack White:
Classic!! Thanks for sharing. It’s moments like those that all lighties should get out of sport at school.
@beet: Sorry Beet – Confession – I read the headline and then took a dive straight into the team sheets – having read the disclaimer – Gosh how did I miss that?? – all I can say is…
@Grasshopper: On the language issue – my son played against a thrown together GW team of rugby players on Saturday – obviously low level stuff and more fun and games than serious cricket. It was quite amusing to hear the discussions on the side lines – most frequently – “Haai Coach – wat is ons telling nou?- ag dankie Coach!” – seriously – not a word of English anywhere. Correction – I heard one English comment – “Hey Dlamini – you must pad up ou – ag dont worry about gloves – its not that hard”
All in all it was fabulous entertainment – one thing to be said about the GW guys – very good team gees – whatever the outside opinions of the school – the boys seem to be enjoying themselves.
And yes – the last GW batsman in went on without gloves and helmet – moment of the day however was when the not out batsman also took off his gloves in solidarity with his gloveless mate !!!
@Redblack White: Yeah I tried to emphasis the disclaimer at the top. These lists are an idea of who will play not necessarily the actual squads. I have no problem adding or subtracting from the lists as more info is shared
@Grasshopper: You are correct. Holtzhauzen is from EG Jansen. Played u16 for them, as well as Valke GK last year.
He joined Glenwood straight after GK week.
Surprised to see him listed at flyhalve. Very good 12.
@beet: Hi Beet
Only one hooker for MC?
I thought Andre Koekemoer might also be in the mix?
@Pedantic: good points and those few are the quality players in the side. Glenwood’s back 3 are going to be pretty quick!
Kearsney has a nice balance to their squad but again size will be a factor. Smallish front row and no real height in the lock area. For me- Dixon at 8 and van Vuuren on the side. Vorster to work on his pass but will keep the opposition guessing with his sniping runs and pace off the mark. Richie has the makings of a fine flyhalf and Pau with confidence will be a handful at centre. Am looking forward to watching the games without personal involvement and hopefully Star and I can catch up on the side of the field. I will be present at the Westville games as I have a couple of boys that I wish to keep an eye on.
@BOG: that was a drawn game and tennis will be interesting….
@Grasshopper: Firsts, I think at a Grey High tournament. And tennis? GCB, based on last years results, will represent SA at some international event. Surfing maybe??
@BOG: no one klaps Glenwood at cricket, what team? It’s more like Glenwood klaps most in tennis & chess….haha!
@kosie: Simple, I dont know how to put dots on the “e”@Grasshopper: Certain things are difficult to resist. GCB goes by the name “GC Secondary/Sekonder” and only to distinguish them from the primary school. I see they klapped GW at cricket the other day ? And they are having a waterpolo tournament in Bloem and GW is participating.
@Anti Green:
If they were to simply say “yes we do X, Y and Z and the reason we do those things are A, B and C” we could maybe find common ground. But the answers are either evasive of the point or arrogantly dismissive of the old boy as someone who has no loyalty and who should just shut up and accept what they decide is best for the school without question. So really – what more can we do?
@star: Totally agree, I would much rather back a young U13 multi skilled athlete to a single disciplined mercenary.
It might not result in the most Craven Week caps, but it will ensure a matric group that are competitive across the board.
@Grasshopper: @GreenBlooded: Don’t undersell your Alma mater … while they may be late recruiting to strengthen the squad, take a look at how many youngsters were Id’d at U13 level and have been developed into potential stars.
The core of the team have been developed over the years, they’ve simply identified weaknesses and plugged those holes – I guess that’s where the problem is, instead of standing by their weaker players, they’ve chosen to replace them.
Still, bottom line … look at Palvie, Morgan, Mukendi, Du Randt, Xaba etc. – the academy has delivered on all promises to them.
@GreenBlooded: It must be exstemely frustrating and I’m sorry to hear that. I will certainly look at it in a different light now.
@Grasshopper: Old Boys are considered irritations if they don’t support their vision. It’s like sheep there…..been hypnotised into Kershaw’s way or the highway……yes Trevor, three bags full Trevor. Jump into the fire, yes Trevor!!
@GreenBlooded: Spot on, I have the same emails and responses, they JUST DO NOT CARE! It will get to a point where relations are ruined with all the KZN traditional opponents and very many others so that Glenwood will only really have Garsfontein as a fixture….very sad indeed. Then the new management will need to pick up the pieces and start again…
@Anti Green:
I could show you reams of correspondence with GW on the poaching issue – you would be shocked at the responses. You need to understand that the GW establishment DOES NOT CARE about criticism. We ask the questions, the answers are evasive at best, progressing to dismissive and finally downright insulting with further iterations. Kershaw has surrounded himself with “Yes” men both inside the school, in the old boys association, governing body and parent body. He has managed to get them to share his vision and therefore has a firm support base. Coupled with a over-subscription of about 500% he is certainly in a position of strengh. Trust me boet – we have tried. Tried and failed. I guess we just need to see how it plays out – maybe he knows things we don’t and history will vindicate him. Interesting times.
Off topic, I wonder if 2015 is going to be the year another school finally topples Westville in the pool, Grey Bloem or Pretoria Boys High? Glenwood will be hunting for sure…
@GreenBlooded: Agree, I was one of those too. Played Under 13D and ended up 2nd’s and game or two firsts. I get that, but it seems Glenwood have bought a pack here and a sprinkling of good back-up backline players. The poor guys in 3rds from last year are just bumped down to 2nd’s….atrocious. I’m with you on the hypercrits though…
@Grasshopper: @Grasshopper:
Not to nit-pick, but because they were not in the U14A or Grant Khomo list does not mean they are imported. They could have come through from the lower teams. It happens – I was a case in point. I think we need to determine the origin of each of these players before we jump to conclusions.
Having said that, if it turns out that this years teams are full of new arrivals then I’m afraid that I will join you in turning my back on Glenwood in 2015. However I will not yield an inch to the many hypocrit GW haters who piously claim to have issues with the poor GW displaced players, good of the game, GW attitude to academics blah blah bulls#1t when these are just a facade for what their real issue is – i.e. their schools catching a klap. Funny how these same people don’t have an issue with schools who poach and lose – even when it is their own schools.
@Anti Green: Seems that way, it seems the others are happy to bury their heads in the sand and accept the victories. Most say they don’t care who is in the side as long as they winning. It’s a pure capitalist mentality, the strongest survive. Maybe I need to see it that way going forward, like in business but these are still just kids….
@Grasshopper: Are you the only OB that doesn’t support the new system? Surely the Band of Brothers,Glenwood’s Green Army must do this together. Glenwood had always been in the Top 5 in Natal. There was some awesome Glenwood’s sides in 80 and 90’s.
@kosie: Yep, only the guys from Werda, Gelofte, Port Natal, Dirkie Uys, Andries Pretorius, Suid Natal, Kuswag, AHDN and Voortrekker spoke it….
@kosie: hahahah, yes I get it…..they certainly don’t train or teach ‘ladies of the night’…
@Grasshopper: in my day, yes I was schooled in Natal, we regularly played Glenwood and DHS. Afrikaans was still mistaken for Dutch in Natal and nobody could speak it. Almost like Latin; you could read it, try and write it but not speak it
@Grasshopper: You missing my point. Hoerskool means something different than Hoërskool. Both train students but for different reasons. Hope you get it now
@kosie: In my day, only 20 years ago now, we had no Afrikaans speaking boys in the 1st team at all, but then we were kak
@kosie: Nope, it just means there are more Afrikaans home language boys at the school than before, in fact more Zulu, Xhosa, Chinese, Venda, Sotho, Shangaan and other languages than before. Okes refer to Glenwood Hoerskool because 10 out of the 15 starters in the 1st team are Afrikaans 1st language….
@BOG: @Grasshopper: I do not wish to get involved in the semantics of your school names but the way both of you have spelt the name implies something totally different than the reputable institutions you are both referring to. But then, please ignore if I am wrong
@BOG: Yep, net soos Hoerskool Grey Bloem ;-)
Hoerskool Glenwood
@Anti Green: I’ve tried, met with coaches, teachers etc and vented, nothing! They always try to quieten me but I won’t stop until this stops. My son will never go there whilst this blatant cheating continues…
Daniel Rust (8th man and captain) of the u13 KZN team from 2010 will be a strong contender for the hooker birth this year at Grey College.
@Grasshopper: You Old Boys need to sort those issues out with the school, as GW has a strong Old Boys network and needs to be the hammer on the poaching issue. I can only imagine the untouched talent that GW has, this then slips through the fingers.
@Anti Green: Agree with you, have always agreed with not poaching or buying. It’s gone way too far now…..needs to be stopped…
OK, did some digging;
Ferdie Pieterse looks to have been at Rustenburg High – 184cm & 123kg tighthead!
Rienier Van Rooyen & Dubazane are only Under16
Holtshauzen is new, was in a red, black and yellow striped jersey previously
Kevin Smit from Westville…
@Grasshopper: So Hopper you know where this is going, GW ability to developed what’s in front of it, is not possible.
@Gungets Tuft: That’s some serious talent.
@Grasshopper: There is a Wissing family at College, hence my confusion.
@Gungets Tuft: Was thinking that was wrong, the Wissings were at Glenwood…
Glenwood Under16 Grant Khomo players 2013;
J Morgan
K Blose
N Xaba
M Palvie
B Staples
B Thole
D du Randt
I Mukendi
So it looks like all the tight 5 are new, plus half backs and a few backline….shocking really….more new players than original players….
@Gungets Tuft: Sorry – not Wissing, it’s Wiffin to England.
Glenwood Under14a 2011…
B Thole
R Cohen
M Palvie
K Blose
M Ehlers
N Xaba
T Mnyandu
H Viktor
S Khaliswayo
M Hand
J Morgan
R van Rensburg
C Brunsdon
R Khoza
M Kirkham
J Gilbey
J Thomas
L Brynard
J du Preez
I Mukendi
C Birnie
J Gilliver
K Gouws
Glad to see the stars Palvie, Mukendi, Morgan & Xaba are proper home grown talent :-)
@Anti Green: It’s an annual question.
It’s maybe better to wait for the first choice 1st XV players to be IDed first and then work on the reduced lists
Here is the KZN u13 Craven Week team from 2010. It looks like the conversion rate of u13 to u18 Craven Week will be much lower than the normal low this year. I wonder how many of the boys on this list got top high school bursaries as a result of their u13 achievements.
1 Joshua Thomas
2 Samuel Swanepoel
3 Franco Erasmus
4 Brandon Staples
5 Henjolah Peters
6 Matt Wiseman
7 Thandwayinkosi Mnyandu
8 Daniel Rust (Captain)
9 Matthew Dahl
10 Schalk van Wyk
11 Jeandre Bekker
12 Dexton Rossouw
13 Collin Brunsdon
14 Zibusiso Dlomo
15 Lwazi Moletshe
16 Ntuthuko Mthembu
17 Kuyezeka Xaba
18 Sanele Sithole
19 Lungisani Mcoyi
19 Mzizi Ngwenya
20 Siyabonga Khalishwayo
22 Ndumiso Madonda
@Anti Green: Sadly College have lost a few other superbly talented cricketers, 2 of whom will return to SA, one wearing England colours, the other Australian. Watch out for Wissing (left for England llast year) and Bradley Hope (left for Australia). Matt Ward is now in England and Mahmoud has left school to take up a Pro contract. Wissing and Hope were in the College 1sts in Grade 8.
@beet: Morning Beet, with above list of players, it would be interesting to see who has been at the various Schools from Grade 8 and Grade 10
@star:Veeran is a super talented cricketer, he is a future Protea.
@Beet Thanks appreciated.
@spilly: Let me see what I can do.
@star: Ja I wasn’t keen to assign more than one position to a player so went with what I heard before the holidays.
Yes also heard that Bell has returned with renewed motivation.
There has been previous discussion on the fall out of boys from U13 level. I would like to use the KZN U13 Invitational cricket team that my son captained as a point of reference. There are 4 boys in the above squads .Mukendi ( the fast bowler) is in his second year in the GW first rugby team and made the Academy side last year. Bryan is in his second year in the DHS first rugby team. Moon and Schlemmer are in the Westville squad. Bryan, Moon and Schlemmer are in all in their second year of first team cricket. Further Small is in his second year of cricket and hockey( provincial) firsts at College and likewise Shepstone in cricket( Inland). I even see the little opener( Veeran) has made a 50 for GW against College as a grade 11. It seems if you back skills early on as a school you will have multi disciplined sportsman to draw from down the line .
@ Kosie- another well known Kearsney name that you might have heard of is Koenig. The nephews ( Dahl and Lello) are now in the Hilton squad. Apples do not fall far from the tree. I see one of the cousins Robbie( a WOB and former ATP player) is now commentating at the Australian Open.
@ Beet- having Bell back in the mix will certainly intensify the loosie battle at Westville and bring out the best in the boys. He is looking in great shape and will help mitigate the loss of K. Smit to GW. Also I am not sure of your positional issues at Kearsney. Surely young Polkinghorne is more of a flank than a lock and Dixon a 8 /LK
Rudi Havenga is still recovery and I don’t think he’ll be playing any of the night series games.
Palvie to dominate this year!
@Beet Thanks great pre season information can you possibly do the same for the EC schools squads especially the big 4 Grey Queens Dale and Selborne.
On the squads, haven’t heard of half the Glenwood squad. Who are the imports?
Off topic, nice 89 run win for Glenwood vs College. I think it’s about 3 years in a row now :-) Glenwood 214/7 (Veeran 50, Kirkham 50 & Wagenar 50) College 114 all out (Kirkham 4 for 17).
A number of wellknow Kearsney family names appear on the KC list; Van Noordwyk, Hudson, Polkinghorne and Hagemann. All well known sporting names for a couple of Kearsney generations. I fondly remember the names
@Rhino_67:
In my opinion he outgrew the No 9 spot and became a much better No 10 – they need to look at him there. Perhaps not 1st team but he should be in the squad. The reason he isn’t training might be that he is in the 1st team waterpolo.
@GreenBlooded: Hoskins doesn’t seem to be in the squad at all. Not at training and the greater group is anything up to 35/40 boys at the moment. He was a dead cert in u14 but seemed to fall out of favor once Kitching arrived. He also may have lost interest over time? Can’t be certain though. 2015 will reveal all
Nice to see Rudi Havenga back in the mix for Campbell after suffering a broken femur in a club match last season. At FB this time.
Surprised not to see Hosken in the mix for ‘Ville?