With the help of some key matches over Easter, schoolboy rugby followers are starting to get a rough idea of where everyone fits into the big picture.
It was a good weekend for the likes of EG Jansen, Nelspruit, Garsfontein, Gimmies and Maritzburg College. An excellent weekend for Outeniqua and Klofies. And a not so good weekend for Paul Roos and Grey High.
So here is a thumbsuck SBR Top 20 based on the results this year so far.
1. Outeniqua
2. Grey College
3. Klofies
4. Paarl Gim
5. Affies
6. Boishaai
7. Monnas
8. Garsfontein
9. Nelspruit
10. EG Jansen
11. St Andrews
12. Transvalia
13. Maritzburg College
14. Noord-Kaap
15. Rondebosch
16. Kearsney
17. Jeppe
18. Pretoria BH
19. Marlow
20. Centurion
@Toeskouer: I watched Monnas vs Noord-Kaap. It was a pity the weather didn’t play along but Monnas were clinical in the red zone = 3 tries.
A few weeks before this game I heard that Hans Coetzee has a totally different style of play in mind to that of his predecessor Wynand Moolman. I always enjoyed Monnas at the Kearsney Festival because they brought with them this uncompromising physical edge which was always evident at the breakdown. Now from what I’m told, Monnas will be a team that leaves the bashing behind and focuses a lot more on running into spaces and getting the ball wide. I was also warned about the unique tactical play of the no.8 under Hans and this did not disappoint at MC150th. He did drop back into the pocket a lot. And he is a talented no.8 as well – Wian Jacobs
As Monnas supporters we don’t see a lot of Dale, Rondebosch, Queens, Grey PE, Noord Kaap, Maritzburg College games. So I enjoyed the MC festival a lot. I have a lot of respect for these teams after watching the games over Easter weekend. They played with passion, and as a team together ( not one or two stars who shine). Now I can see where the second group (teams 8/9 up to 20) lies. They are ready to surprise any top dog. I’m glad Monnas came through the tournament with 3 wins because it could easily have been a different result. Noord Kaap really wanted to beat us !! And I think Rondebosch will still surprise a few schools. Dale was very aggressive and did not stop to play. Over the years I’ve seen a lot of the Paarl Bois and Gim, Paul R, Grey C, Boland L , Outiniqua Glenw etc games, so it was good to be part of a different range of schools.
Comparing all, I will tell you Nelspruit/Midb Tek/Garsfontein/ EG Jansen can hold a candle to all of them. Maybe not every year but I always read about schools saying their competition is so hard, between above schools plus Kloof Affies Monnas there are also really very tough games.
@beet</a@beet: I aprreciate sir.
@Tjoppa: At least the thumbsucks had Waterkloof
Does this not look a lot better ?????
1 Afrikaans Hoer Seunskool Pta (Affies)
2 Hoërskool Outeniqua (Kwaggas)
3 Paarl Gimnasium
4 Grey College
5 Hoërskool Monument (Monnas)
6 Hoërskool Waterkloof
7 Hoërskool Garsfontein
8 Hoërskool Nelspruit (Nellies)
9 Paarl Boys High School (Boishaai)
10 Hoërskool Dr. E.G. Jansen (Jansies)
11 Hoërskool Noord-Kaap
12 St Andrews College (SAC)
13 Kearsney College
14 Paul Roos Gymnasium (PRG)
15 Wynberg Boys’ High
16 Rondebosch Boys’ High
17 Grey High School (PE)
18 Pretoria Boys’ High School (PBHS)
19 Hoërskool Centurion
20 HTS Drostdy
@Woltrui: Noordelike het twee o’s, nie?
@Ploegskaar: Noordelike intelers?
@Woltrui: Sien jy hol amok hier. Affies, Waterkloof, Garsfontein en EG Jansen sal hierdie jaar almal in die T10 eindig en die vaandel vir die Noordelike Intelers dra. So sal Gim, Bois en die Kwaggas ook T10 wees en die vlag vir die Kaapse Dwarstrekkers en Drosters vlieg. Die balans van die T10 sal gevul word deur GCB van die Sentrale Vlaktes, bes moontlik bo op die mishoop, en enige van PRG, Kearsney, Rondebosch, Drostdy, Framesby of Noordkaap, vir kwota-doeleindes. Die res, wel die speel net saam
@Woltrui: yep, maybe he is away still. Not a great start for KES but they will come back, pity they only have 10 games left in the season. They might struggle against Affies and Monnas this year. My beloved Glenwood had a mixed bag, losing a close one to Paul Roos who I think they could have beaten, ran riot against a decent Selborne side and then just outclassed by Paarl Gim. I would have liked them to have played like they did against Selborne but I think it was a bridge too far. The forwards against Gim were just out-sized and out-muscled. We did start with a few second stringers though. Gim will end up top 3 for sure. They have an immense loose trio and centre pairing. Glenwood can be proud of scoring 2 great tries against this great side. Our backs looked scary once they got some ball…
@Grasshopper: Hopper I see your friend from KES, Roger, disappeared after the Easter festival matches. Hopefully he will make a comeback as the year proceed. Must say I enjoy his banter. 8)
Only the top 5 are correct, the rest is a complete lottery…..as always….
@BOG: Hahahahahaha!
@Playa: No, all his spelling mistakes, suggests otherwise. At one point I thought that he might be AT, Nonnie, Duppie, Festus, Spear, but “their” errors were all deliberate. I think that he is off to dig his grave. This is a requirement in Pretoria. Most of his anatomy, has already “passed on”
@Tjoppa: Hehehehehe…Tjoppa are you not The Beast in disguise?
@BOG: Biggest decline happend in your pants bog. That is why you are such a miserable old fart. Beeg putting my tekkies on.
@beet: ” Must watch” in this particular case, could be translated as “maak gatskoon” As you can see, the decline in school rugby in Tshwane (Pretoria ruins) has had a far reaching impact on the followers too.This in fact, has been an ongoing process ever since they capitulated to the British at Vereeniging in 1901 and as clearly illustrated, has become quite critical. If you are in the counselling business, that is the place to be. Did you also read that they have to dig their own graves in “Pretoria”?
@BOG: Maar Bog het jou wysbegeerte nie jou al in die moeiliheid beland nie. Ek hoor tot die ennies lag al as jy wys. Joue nie eers sigbaar op 30cm nie.
@Woltrui: Hulle op nege volgens thumbsuck metode. Nee my maat hulle suck so moet of 15 wees.
@beet:
Must watch – Affies/Waterkloof
Can watch – Monnas/EG Jansen
Watch – Daspoort/Tuine
Bored – Grey/Sentraal
On the change of Pretoria’s name I have no problem and I think my grandfather will be proud It is named after his family — Tswanepoel
@Woltrui: I saw the headlines of a local Pretoria paper which again hinted at the city’s name change to Tshwane. I think the folks up there must read about that every other day.
If the change does come about, I wonder what the implications would be for a school like Pretoria Boys High, if any?
@beet: In Pretoria everybody is cozy and “mushing over the tundra” as one. If I may quote a well spoken blogger of SBR.
@beet: Yo Beet, you snookered me now. Don’t think there is a similar word in Afr. Although I am sure our Anglo Afr brothers in “visvoet” town will pull something out of the bag.
There is still peace in Ptown. 25 May is still a long way off. The ugly stuff will start closer to match day.
Affies vs Klofies – 25 May 2013!!!!!!
What is the vertaling for “must-watch” rugby game?
@BOG: n Komitee besluit. Amptelike.
Affies van Pta.
Enige klagtes. Skakel in met Mr Beet.
@MyKroon: Korreksie. Hy het nog sy kop, maar hy sit daarop en hulle het van hulle borg se produk met n tregter af, of was dit opgedwing? Die Affies op die lys, neem ek aan, is Afikaans Hoer van Danielskuil of Pofadder?
Na vele klagtes deur Noordvaal bloggers het die Noordvaal top 20 thumbsuck komitee n nood vergadering bele(geborg deur die 3 skip whiskey). Die top 20 is as volg aangepas:
1. Kloof
2. Affies
3. Monnas
4. Garsies
5. EG Jansen
6. NELLIES
7. Centurion
8. HTS Middelburg
9. Pta BH
10. Kwaggas
11 Transvalia
12. Menlopark
13. Grey Bloem(op verstek)
14. Montana(Pta)
15. Ben Vorster
16. Paarl Gim
17. HJP
18. Maritzburg C
19. Kearsney
20. Paul Roos (omrede n bekende en beminde P R pa van Malelane kom)
So daar is dit. Amptelike. Wiskundig. Korrek.
@Tjoppa: Tjoppa ons kan hulle na 9de afbring ? Volgens die amptelike Noordvaal top 20 “thumbsuck” komitee. Die onafhandlike, objektiewe en wiskundig uitgewerkte top 20 lys. 8)
@Woltrui se kop het hom gelos. Geniune.
@Woltrui: Is Grey nie bietjie hoog nie. Lyk my Jobsbroers se senuwees knaag verskriklik.
@Woltrui: Het jy wysbegeerte geswot in Kanyamazane? n Tweepunt verskil met n bevraagtekenbare insident, duidelik sigbaar van 65 meter, maar nie van 3 nie en volgens jou logika, regverdig dit ses plekke op die “ranglys”? Jy het dit nie uit jou duim gesuig nie, maar eerder jou groottoon.
@beet:thumbsuck .
1. Kwaggas
2. Paarl Gim
3. Kloof
4. Affies
5. Monnas
6. Grey Bloem
7. Garsies
8. Jansies
9. HJS
10. Nellies
11. St Andrews
12. Maritzburg C
13. Noord Kaap.
14. Kearsney
15. HTS Middelburg
16. Pta BH
17. Rondebosch
18. Marlow
19. Centurion
20. Paul Roos
Beware of that Wynberg side.
@tierklou tygerberg se 2des het gewen maar dit was teen Transvalia se 2des nie 1stes nie!
@HORSEFLY NO.1: MHS are pretty much an unknown quantity so far , not having been at any of tge festivals. Their forwards actually looked rather decent in their match against Northwood.
Their big challenge this year is that they are playing most of their tough fixtures away from home this year.
They probably won’t be as good as last year , but should give most of the bigger schools a good run for their money.
Transvalia 12de?? Sover ek weet het Tygerberg se 2des hul Maandag geklop by Bizsport.
@ star
Yip but it doesn’t seem as if any KZN school has THAT good a tight five. Seems to me that the loose trios are the ones playing real well.
But yeah, if WBHS plays like how they can then its a whole different ball game! Right now I don’t see Glenwood beating College. Westville, I don’t know. I doubt MHS will reach the heights of last year.
@ Amalekite. But Westville should relish the opportunity to play MC on Goldstones in their 150th year.After all it does not come around too often
Westville has a mindset problem which was clearly illustrated in their performances at KERF .
@star: Unfortunately we play MC on Goldstones this year.
@ Amalekite, point taken. Sometimes what makes a player look good is a fact that he plays with so much confidence because he knows that he can always rely on the players he plays with. Don’t get me wrong Tedder is a good player and he’d my starting 10 for Craven Week.
@ Horsy- I think College almost at full strength against Westville at Wartburg and went down 24-19 with an intercept try at the death . I think while MC will always play with 110% heart and commitment ,the jury is still out on whether their tight 5 can lay a good enough platform.This was a problem for them last year as well. I think we all wish them well in their 150th celebrations but it is still early days and lots of hurdles for all teams to overcome. Kearsney v MC at Stott or against Westville on Bowdens. Tough to call and do not forget House with their beast of a pack on the 4th of May. I will try and be their to watch the Old Crocks lower their colours and stand on the field for the very last time.My son does play KES that day so I will be under pressure.
‘red skole rugby’, can anyone post a copy of the article?
@Sir Pius: You seem a bit confused. Are you sure that you don’t want to change your avatar to KES ?
Tedder and Smith do combine very nicely. The fact is that when he came on in the second half, the game changed dramatically. At that stage Boland looked on top of things and were leading. They must have been shocked at the difference in the way that Kearsney suddenly started to control things, thanks to Tedder. His tactical kicking, line breaks, defence and putting his players into space. Boland did not score a single point in the second half to Kearsney’s 25 or so. That tells a story.
Yes, it is a team game, but sometimes there a certain players that can influence a team’s performance in a big way: Naas Botha, Serge Blanco, Hugo Portas, Dewald Human, to mention a few.
Yes, there should be second team players who can take the step up. However, at this stage, it does not appear that Keasney have got anyone anywhere nearly as good as Tedder at no. 10 for the time being. This may change, and hopefully for them, it does.
@star: Yeah. I think that we got off to a slow start and a tough one at that ! However, our team got stronger as the Festival progressed. I think that the reshuffling of the backline had a lot to do with it. You can expect certain ” first choice ” backline players to be in the seconds. They have all been given their chances, and it is now time to select the guys that are willing to put their bodies on the line. I think that we will have a decent season.
@Sir Pius: agreed. It’s a team game and one cannot do it without the efforts of those around him. Tyler and Tedder work very well together as does having Reece on Your inside is also a winner! Rugby is about the team – no question
@lyndonhol:
You should also know that only 4 players from those College sides that lost made it to their proper first side. So basically the proper Kearsney and Glenwood teams beat what was essentially a College 2nd team. College will claim top honors IMO
I know you have it as a thumbsuck Top 20 but not sure how you have Maritzburg College above Kearsney (they have already lost 19 -7 to them after being 7-0 up at the Voortrekker Tournament) and no Glenwood who have also already beaten Maritzburg College 21-0 if I am correct. The top two sides this year from KZN will be Kearsney and Glenwood and they have both already played each other with Kearsney coming out tops 26-25. Westville will more than likely come in 3rd.
Not a bad stab in the dark, disappointed no border schools in top 20, but again don’t think based on current performance any of the “big”3 should be there. I think Garsfontien should be up 1 – and Grey Kollege will end up at the end of 2013 as number 1.
Late news:
Following the tragic death of one of the players at the Maritzburg College 150th Festival, the school have informed us that tomorrow’s fixtures will go forth as planned with “only the affected club” (I believe the players from the same school as the boy) withdrawing.
The fixtures are as follows:
Day 3, Wednesday 3 April
09:00 Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool (Affies) vs. Dale College
10:20 Grey High School vs. KZN Development XV
11:40 Rondebosch Boys’ High School vs. Jeppe High School for Boys
13:00 Hoërskool Monument vs. Hoërskool Noord-Kaap
14:20 Queen’s College vs Maritzburg College
Durban Development XV have withdrawn from the final game vs Grey HS at the MC150 after one of their players passed away off the field.
So sad – again unrelated to rugby – seems to have occurred at the pool.
@Archie:
Unfortunately didn’t get to see the whole match but I did speak to one of the DHS coaches there and he was disappointed with the 2nd half showing from DHS but at the same time impressed with Ben Voster. Well done on your win against Northwood! Well deserved! Certainly hope there will be another match in the future!
@star
@star:
It definitely will be quite competitive. Don’t know much about other teams this year but it seems Glenwood U15A are going good so far.beat Gimmies 10-7.!but again, I have faith in the boys. They have enough talent and enough depth. Ranking will be similar to last year.
@ Amalekite I think it’s unfair to say that the Kearsney backline wouldn’t fire without Tristan. Take Tyler Smith out of that backline and tell me what that backline will be like. I personally think that Tristan and Tyler work very well together. Last year Westville played against KES without Marco, I was worried as a KES supporter but when the second team flyhalf started for the injured Marco, you couldn’t tell that he was a second team player. There are boys that are always willing to step up and do the job. Some boys find that shift to the first very easy, they might just not be playing because of favouritism that exists in most schools. Look at Chiefs, they’re still doing well without Sonny Bill. All I’m saying here is that it’s a team effort.
@ Horsy-Do not put words into my mouth.
I am just interested in progression hence my question re the future rankings. I have also queried the “easy victory” as 5 front line WBHS players were out and they had a flank playing prop. Just a bit of balance although I am” sure” that School will prevail in what will be a competitive game.
@ Amalekite- I believe in the second half against the Kwaggas Westville had 54% of the possession and the score line was 7 all. They must have been able to gain at least parity in the tight exchanges. They seem to have built on this against Framesby and a winning margin of 44 is nothing to be sniffed at. The margin for Grey was 28 and GW only just beat them at KP. Is this an oversimplification? I honestly believe our tight 5 can stand up with the best and it is just what attitude our backline brings to the table that will determine the outcome.
@ Beet-I was reading the Kearsney program specifically the Old Crocks article and I cannot believe that there was an old bullet playing at the age of 51. He should have been put out to pasture years before
@horsefly as u14 coach of ben vorster I have to congratulate you on the win. We were not on our game against you guys. All our teams struggled on day 1 it can be because of the bus trip we got up at 1am wednesday morning and only arrived at 8pm the boys just wasnt in the game. But no excuses you were better than us on the day. On Saturday the boys really turned it on against northwood and we played close to potential in winning 57 – 0! Would love to play you guys again in the future
Welgedaan aan my alma mater, Kwaggas. Owens het met trots gespeel en na verneem word, ook uitstekende sportmangees gewys. Hou so aan!
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Playing.
To be honest, I have no idea how good our U15’s are. I know that they had quite a good year last year. Plying at the Paarl festival will also help any team, so let’s wait and see.
@Tjoppa: Haha! Tjoppa. Good one.
But remember every now and then you’re going to have to prove to us that you’re here for rugby and not to troll.
BTW anyone welcome to send in contributions for posts. I know you are working on something big in SBR that all the readers would love to read more about.
@beet: The sequel to that other article about school rugby in Tshwane, appeared today under “Planne om skoerugby te red” ( IN PRETORIA) Essentially, it involves outsiders(non teachers) to become coaches. Looking here there are a few potential netball coaches@Tjoppa: No reason for you to suffer the way you are- help is available. Go for a coaching job- the schools in Pretoria needs you
@Amalekite:
And how are your U15s this year? Star seems to be very sure that they will exact revenge on DHS for the loss last year? I obviously think not and that home advantage will sway it in DHS’s favour.
I think a more indipendent top 20 list such as the FNB top 20?(when it comes out) should be used to avoid conflict of interest etc… i THINK wYNBERG AND sT andrews college are missing from this list.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: As far as I know he repeated grade 11. I think that he played 3rds last year.
@Woltrui: Can not be better than this site. Even 365 is dead so please leave Beet alone. LMGA.
@beet: Hi Beet. The following website not to shaby. Their editor, if not visiting the local beer tent, up to date with the necessary info.
http://www.schoolboyrugby.co.za
Go to School Rugby Results 02-Mar-2013.
HTS Middelburg 38 – Transvalia 3.
Hiehiehie.
@Amalekite:
Yeah true. The KZN selectors will be relishing to see them at trials. What a headache it’ll be for them when picking but at least its a good one!
Did Osborn(prop) repeat a year at WBHS? I think he started out at DHS in 2008???
@Henkies:
Boys looking good this year. U14A at Glenwood were very impressive leading 31-5 at HT in their only match. In the 2nd half the B team came on and went to sleep and they ended up winning 38-15 against a very good Ben Voster team that went on to smash Northwood by about 40-50 points
As for U15A, they suffered a terrible tragedy but I still think they’ll come out tops in KZN. They have incredible players at prop,flank,8th man, flyhalf,Fullback,centre and wing. They beat a good Transvalia team 17-5. Same Transvalia team only lost 12-8 to a very,very good Helpmekaar side.
As for U16, they also beat Transvalia, a team they lost to last year. Hopefully this means they are going forward rather than backward.
Here’s to a great 2nd term for School!!!
@Henkies: Outeniqua’s weakness is actually their 2 props who are not strong scrummagers. I see them as passengers. They are way too overweight for the modern game. They did not dominate set pieces against any of their opposition.
The loose and the lineouts were pretty even. Grey are very well drilled.
It appeared to me that Outeniqua just wanted it more, in the second half especially. Their number 10 wreaked havoc with his stepping and lightning quick speed. At the end of the day, it boiled down to 2 things:
1. Pace
2. Hunger
Waterkloof beat Nelspruit who beat beat Garsfontein, So Nelspruit and Garsfontein could be swapped. Also EG jansen and Nelspruit and Monnas and Kempton park still in race for nu power trophy, that should help the log a lot. It is very close between nr 3 and 10, could swing any way.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I would most probably select Kurt as well as Tedder. What a pleasure to have a player in your squad who can play in almost any position, except for lock ! Very talented individual !
Grassy, Beet and anyone else who was at Kearsney,
How did Grey manage in the set piece against Outeniqua where the Outeniqua pack must have had a massive height and weight advantage? Grey’s locks were down as 185 and 189 in height . How did they go in the lineout against locks who were much taller and heavier ? The scrums must have also been interesting ? Did Grey hold up ok or did the weight advantage start taking it’s toll eventually? The scoreline suggests a really even contest so Grey must have some great technique to compete against guys so much bigger than them.
@kcob:
What’s it now? Kearsney will be top 2 but I’m just stating that their toughest opponent might just be College who are also looking good.
As for Tedder, yip, he’s looking real good. Won’t say much more about the #10 jersey than what I’ve already said. Need to look at other contenders. A pity that DHS vs Kearsney will play after the KZN team has been chosen. Willve been great to see Webster against Tedder(both of the same age). I would personally go for Kurt.Tristan to get the jersey next year. That’s it for me on that matter.
@BOG: Bog it gets closer 22-22 now that is not close sir it is spot on BUT the score was 22-20, four tries to two, sixty minutes, good ref. That is how big the difference is. As one blogger wrote here how can the other team be dominating if Grey scored two tries.
@beet: Use logic Beet. Emotion got you married and in a friendship with Bog. You decide which is best.
@BOG: Ok, nevermind beet’s ranking.He admits its a thumbsuck.Maybe Outeniqua shouldnt be at number 1 either.No one can say GCB and Kwaggas are the 2 best teams for sure.There are many “shoulds” and “woulds” where rankings are concerned.One thing’s for sure, GCB lost to them.Like you, I didnt see that coming either,but here we are.
@beet: Beet obviously you have more balls than brains. You write we shout. Accept our comment in that light.
@BOG: And wont we enjoy time.
@BOG: Then you still lost to Outeniqua in 2013.
@Amalekite: Agreed Tedder is very good , saw him play last year ( when he looked about 11 years old ! ) , i can imagine without him the Kearsney backline would be rudderless.
@Playa: As Beet correctly points out, you will hardly find two teams closer in strength and the match proved it and so too, I believe,will the next few months. Two points margin which was only gained in the last ten minutes? It does not get any closer, but somehow you think it is justifiable to have several teams between them on the “ranking”. Time will tell!
@BOG: Hahahaha! Really taking this hard hey.At the end of the day,the records will show 22-20 to Outeniqua.It won’t matter how they go against Boishaai and PRG…especially to those who rankings do not matter.
I agree with those calling for Wynberg to be in that thumsuck list.From what I have heard, I think Kearsney should be higher up on that list, in the region of about 10-12.Monnas may be a little flattered by their position there (maybe so is Grey Bloem – sorry BOG).
But ja, its a long season ahead.By the looks of things, things will be very different this year.Some teams really putting their hands up.
@Woltrui: I think the next big event on the horizon is Outeniqua’s trip to Paarl to meet HJS on 13 April and this will give more context. In terms of the game Grey vs Kwaggas game, these two teams were about as equal as equal gets on the day. As logical as it seems going by the result on paper, it’s hard to put one team at 1 and the other at 6 now.
Did HTS really beat Transvalia. I know Transvalia are in the NuPower group with Garsies and Nelspruit – they meet Garsies next. Also Transvalia went thru the Pukke Fest unbeaten.
@kcob: Kearsney definitely the team to beat in KZN.
Tedder is an amazing player. The worry for Kearsney is that if he is unable to play for whatever reason on matchday, they will be rudderless as was the case in the first half against Boland Landbou. The minute he came on, the game changed dramatically. He has to be a dead cert for CW, providing his school don’t decide to send him on a cricket tour again….
@ Far Meadow, I would have to agree with you boet. I watched them play against St Stithians yesterday. That is a quality side and I see them finishing in the Top 15. That backline is deadly. They should easily put 50 points against any opposition this season. They attack and defend very well. The centres run good lines and confuse the opposition. I was impressed with St Andrews as well, don’t write off Pretoria Boys.
@Tjoppa: C’mon Tjoppa. Give us your Top 20.
Blah blah Horsefly! We ALL know you have it for Kearsney. Get over it!!!
Beet, I was getting a little worried concerning your wherabouts. I was beginning to think that they had rolled you up with the beer tent and packed you in some store facility until the next event. Dont bother listening to the moaning minnies here. It explains why poor Affies will be playing a curtain razor to an invitational side on the B-field at Wildeklawer. No reflection on the team, but it does isolate SOME of their supporters, and reading here, understandably so. As you know, I and most OG dont regard ratings too much, but what will happen, eg, if Boishaai or PRG beats Outeniqua by ten and GCB beats them by 20? Go Boishaai and PRG !!!
@Far Meadows:
Admittedly looking at Wynberg’s results:
50-12 vs St Stithians (at St Stithians)
60-7 vs St Albans
36-13 vs St Benedicts
it’s clear they deserve a place in the Top 20
@BuiteBreek: No I swear I did rehab before coming up with this list. I’m avoiding the temptation of alcohol at all costs, hence the decision to leave out Wine-berg
Didnt’ Grey Bloem loose over easter? Klofies, Afies, Monnas and Paarl Gim unbeaten. Grey bloem should be behind them, not? Grey Bloem getting preverencial treatment? 8)
HTS Middelburg won Transvalia 38-3?
How wrong can one man be????? Are you somewhere related to Bog. If he borrowed you money just talk a lot of us are willing to help you get out of his web. LET THE GAMES BEGIN>
Methinks College vs Kearsney might turn out to be the decider for KZN top honours. College have lots of talent and the kind of heart which I haven’t seen in a while plus a star 8th man along others. Kearsney are the team to beat and are known as far as their strong points go. It’ll also be interesting to see Schramm vs Goodson etc.
Personally I hope for College to take KZN top honors.
Has to do with the “Blue and Gold” and the “Red,Black and White”!
As much as it pains me to say it, I would have Wynberg in at about 10. I think that they would beat St Andrew’s (who you have at 11) by at least ten points.
LOL @beet: Maybe you spend to much time in that beer tent. Or maybe some of that poison from Durbs.
By all accounts , Wynberg had a good run at the St Stithians Festival and have a pretty decent side – it wouldn’t surprise me if they are talked about more and more as the season progresses.