| TIME | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | EVENT | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue.02Aug | Hangklip | – | – | Queen’s | ||
| Thu.04Aug | Swartland | 29 | 14 | Tygerberg | ||
| Thu.04Aug | Strand | 11 | 8 | Hugenote | ||
| Fri.05Aug | Stirling | 17 | 15 | Cambridge | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Maritzburg College | 26 | 33 | Glenwood | ||
| Sat.06Aug | St Andrew’s | 48 | 12 | Muir | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Dale | 13 | 16 | Selborne | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Framesby | 47 | 7 | Otto du Plessis | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Marlow | 36 | 22 | Daniel Pienaar | ||
| Fri.05Aug | Queen’s | 36 | 22 | Grens | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Grey HS | 38 | 19 | Hudson Park | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Brandwag | 29 | 22 | Nico Malan | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Voortrekker (Beth) | 39 | 24 | Goudveld | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Welkom Gim | 52 | 8 | Witteberg | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Affies | 67 | 6 | Pretoria BH | ||
| Sat.06Aug | Jeppe | 36 | 17 | KES | ||
| Sat.06Aug | HJS Paarl BH | 26 | 25 | Paarl Gim | ||
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@Green Mamba: they ate AWESOME moments though….
@knowthegame: let those small moments amuse small minds
@knowthegame: Wat jy dink maak regtig niks saak nie…dis iets vir die Paarl, die skole , die old boys en die ondersteuners…wat jy nou daarvan dink is irrelevant…geniet die jamesons.
@Ploegskaar: ai ploegie how about a bean in love coffee I can talk all day!!!!!
@odie15: You guys must just your kak off the trees and lamp posts here in Courtrai and surrounds man, I’m still new in Paarl and thought there was a big game of football on between Estonia and Ghana at Dal Josafat the weekend past, but apparently I was mistaken ???
2 big ones to go by the way, going to be tough, but that’s how we prefer it!
@4×4: to remark on this in same vane….last week we played SACS every A team match including seccies was closely fought. Their rugby program is strong. Special focus is required as it is quickly lost.
@Candies: You can perhaps make a good argument with PBHS’ cricket though…always tough beating the English boys at cricket.
Just for the record and kindly read my previous post where I specifically stated that I would love seeing PBHS back on the rugby radar. Thus my comment was not intended at putting PBHS down, it will be foolish of me as it is a great school.
My remark my be deceptive and I wish to correct same. With substituting games I was not per se referring to PBHS, but during our season we are playing teams that is with respect not relevant anymore.
THE Affies – PBHS is a tradition and I have stated that I hope that if will stay a derby and just not become another fixture.
@Ploegskaar: hey ploegie now that its done its for you guys to win your 1 and give them carrots….
@Tang: I predict you will “compromise” your “values” in the the near future, but no worries, no demons or devils “this side”. Jersey sponsor looks spiffy (just pick carefully, almost anything will clash with your kit), sponsored mainfield makes you feel quite the toff, no buying or selling of kids (offering opportunities that are mutually beneficial yes) and mostly funding from OB’s or philanthropists (so no pilfering of school fees). Nothing dirty or diabolical in staying relevant and surviving in a tough environment, and nothing wrong with using a strong rugby program and 1st team success as a tool to achieve that. For all the cackling about hobbies like hockey, water polo and judo, SA is a rugga nation and parents and laaties care about rugga results, period.
For interest sake, do you have masters coaching hockey and water polo at PBHS or do you get some pro-coaching in from outside?
@Speartackle: Spear I don’t if it’s the altitude here in Hilton or the dops you bought me yesterday that effected my performance during my 2.4km run this afternoon. Hopefully I will feel better on Wednesday when I’m back at sea level.
@JPS_10: Ek het in geen vorige post opgemerk dat dekades van tradisie afgestel moet word aangesien Affies die afgelope jare oorheers nie. Ek hetb’n objektiewe vraaget gestel of daar nie ook na ander kompetisie gekyk moet word nie.
Ek neem aan jy is ‘n Affie ondersteuner aangesien jy feitlike bevestigings maak, en seer sekerlik kan jy nie weg hardloop rugby week in en week uit as aanskoulik ag nie? Op die staduim is ‘n skool soos Boishaai se rugby tops juis as gevolg van sterk kompetisie. Neem ook nou maar die ander Super Rugby spanne wat in die Australiese been gespeel het van die Super 18…die oomblik toe sterker kompitisie intree is hulle weggeblaas.
My kommer is net dat teveel maklike wedstryde ook die gevolg kan hê dat Affies later teen moeiliker opposisie kan vasval.
@knowthegame: over the top is awesome….time SA rugby went over the top. At the moment just rubbish no passion.
@Candies: AS previously stated. This is a rugby blog and I, and it appears the sporting world does not rate hockey highly, but if the hockey results send you in an euphoria so let it be.
@Tang: I respect your point a view. It appears that Affies is sharing you points stated as all of them are applicable at Affies.
@odie15: noem my boring as dit jou sal beter voel…in fact ek wens ek kon jou vertel hoe excited my lewe is..maar daar gelaat. Ek dink dit is totaal over die top…finish en klaar.Jou alma mater is belangrik…baie,maar soos julle aangaan is die begin en einde,maar weer eens different strokes vir different oks en ek gaan nou n lekker Jameson drink saam met n klomp boring ouens by n baie boring golfklub
@QC86: Eish one of those
@knowthegame: the old boys holding them on top their shoulders are last years 1st team players. Salmaan was carried by Leo and Wikus the front row. The matrix from 5 years ago were their mentors. Its pretty much a tradition continued. 20 years ago we ran onto the field after Test matches and cricket matches….just dry boring people like yourself maybe who dont enjoy others fun. The old boys is what makes this Big.
@Speartackle: Mens moes maar seker n paar aandele gekoop het by wyle Jan Pickard se Uniewyn. Ek merk dat daar nie die gebruiklike laat-nag kommentare was nie, sekerlik nie omdat daar nie gedrink is nie,maar omdat die “point of no return”, sekerlik oorskry is. Jy moet maar jou golf afwissel by Toti, met Selborne, Umkomaas – net 9 putjies, maar dit was n lekker kroeg, PS, Margate, Ramsgate Sanlammeer (ala Lost City, Micky Mouse) en Wild Coast. Ek weet jy is op n tight budget, so die drank is miskien vir jou te duur daar. n Goeie uitdaging is daai kortgat oor die gorge, wat kan wissel van n wedge tot n 3-yster, afhangende van die wind. En oppad terug Toti toe, kan jy n lekker fight optel in Margate, by Backline.
@Playa: Man that ref was so kak he should have got a klap from both teams
reffed us against Hudson,was fine in the first half and mad in the second and against Dale this weekend again.
@Speartackle Ek moet se Spear die ouens by Boishaai kan rugby speel maar die duisende oud skoliere wat op veld hardloop ietwat te veel vir my…ek kan verstaan as skool kinders op veld hardloop maar as ek 5 jaar uit skool was ken ek nie meer so baie mense sodat ek die manne moet omhels en op my skouers ronddra nie…ek sou se totaal over the top. Moet se daai manne kan move met langbroeke en baadjies
@Speartackle: @Speartackle: Ek moet se Spear die ouens by Boishaai kan rugby speel maar die duisende oud skoliere wat op veld hardloop ietwat te veel vir my…ek kan verstaan as skool kinders op veld hardloop maar as ek 5 jaar uit skool was ken ek nie meer so baie mense sodat ek die manne moet omhels en op my skouers ronddra nie…ek sou se totaal over the top. Moet se daai manne kan move met langbroeke en baadjies
@Speartackle: ek trek nou onmiddelik ook Toti toe
@QC86: Hahahaha…you became vague after the cold one, right?
I’m not sure what can be done about abusive parents. Got reports of some Dale parents dishing it out to the 1st XV ref. Totally unacceptable!
@BOG: Ek het nie die Paarl Sirkus gekyk nie maar ek kan net dink hoe hulle moes tekere gegaan het toe eindfluitjie blaas
@Playa: I went to Mabovula first and then dashed up to the fields to watch the u13 game,but left early due to some selborne parents shouting the odds at the reff :oops:and we were getting a klap, then indoors for a cold one during the 3rd’s game,so i was not to well informed of what the scores were,thats why i was so vague on Saturday,sorry
@BOG: Nee wat ek sal maar nou eerder naweke weer golf speel. Te ver van die Beeld aksie af en die skolerugby hier in Natal n fiasko. As Grey nie Saterdag 80 teen Glenwood opsit behoort dit vir hulle n teleurstelling te wees.
O ja jy was reg oor die rivierwater….dit vrot…het my handdoekie daarin bietjie natgemaak om balle en stokke skoon te hou en heeltyd gedog dit is ou Bush wat so vrot skyt maar dit was toe al die tyd die rivierwater
@Bush: Thanks!Oh yes!QC at the Rec should be another monster game.
@QC86: I can imagine hehehe. My beers were tasteless on the other hand.
Close game. And I see there wasn’t much between the 3rd teams as well…14-19 if I’m not mistaken.
By the way the under 14 score I was given turned out to be the 14B score which ended up being 38-14. Big ups to the under 16C team for getting a draw
By all accounts a great 2016 double header…looking forward to the 2017 edition.
@4X4: Yes I have read through the rugby results and they don’t make for good reading if you are connected to PBHS.
Is it time for serious remedial action to PBHS rugby? I think there would have to be a unanimous yes to this point.
However, I think all at PBHS would like to remind some of our more illustrious rugby opponents that this is still school boy rugby and the level of professionalism we encounter week after week is a cause for grave concern.
The amount of investment and effort put into school boy rugby is totally disproportionate.
PBHS can take many short-term remedial steps to rectify the standard of rugby but we will not take steps that change the very nature of school boy rugby and change the values of PBHS. We feel that many of our regular opponents are quick to compromise on their values when it comes to school boy rugby.
Principal among these are:
1) School boy kit is not for sale and should never be for sale.
2) School boys should not be traded and bartered as commodities.
3) School boy sport is amateur until the government of this country changes the laws of the country.
4) School boy grounds and stadia are not for sale and never should be.
5) The use of rugby bursaries and professional coaching to boost a schools perceived market value is worrisome.
We feel a drop in our results is temporary and can be remedied. We feel a compromise in values is permanent and can never be remedied.
These are my views and thoughts and are not necessarily the view of PBHS.
@Speartackle: Noudat jy so diep betrokke is by Toti se gholf, sal jy seker nie vir my kan se of daar darem n ordentlike skolewedstryd, die afgelope naweek in SA plaasgevind het nie?
@Playa: Beers were sweet
you should have seen the second team game,22-21 to selborne,also a mini war. u14a score was 40-22 to selborne.Fantastic derby,all a person could wish for.
@Playa: consolidation = consolation
Eish!
@Playa: Queens game is also going to be Humdinger. All the best with the last two?????.
@Candies:
As mentioned earlier by 4×4 it is his personal opinion. From what I know I can assure you that Affies is not even thinking about not playing against PBHS. Finish and klaar!!!!
@Bush: Ja, they must be bleak. But consolidation will be getting the 100th win against the old foe in May. These boys have far exceeded expectations this year, and only they can be disappointed with Saturday’s loss. We remain proud.
Two games to go…Hudson Park this weekend, then the Border season closer vs Queen’s on the 27th.
@Playa: Sounds like a great derby game. Sorry about the loss. Griffy and the team must have been heart broken. Is that your season over? Been a good year for Dale.
@Bush: Hahahaha!
Game of 2 halves. Selborne the first quarter and took all points available to them and piling on a 16-0 lead in the first half. Dale started dominating towards the later stages of the 1st half but couldn’t convert into points. Dale carried on their dominance in the 2nd half, and climbed back to within 3 points with about 15 minutes. From then on Selborne’s defence stole the show…one team threw everything on attack, while the other did the same on defence. I am told that possession stats may have been something like 90-10 in Dale’s favour.They just couldn’t take down that defence.
@knowthegame: Ja nee dinge gaan maar aan hier. Dis mos langnaweek en die Transvalers swem dat die skuim spat hier. Al wat my hewig ontstel hier is dat mens nie ordentlike boerewors vir n braai hier kan koop. Verlang nou erg na Komati of Groenkloof slaghuis se wors. Vleis is ook taai hier. Mens kan nie hier eet, besig om baie gewig te verloor.
@knowthegame: You are correct, I may have gotten my facts wrong I thought it was four province stars that had been poached by the lions but it seems its just the three youngsters from HJS Paarl that are joining. The lions should have a potent u19 team next year hey.
@McCulleys Workshop: Whahahahahaha. Be nice about my silver spoon. Hoppers going to jump on the bandwagon and insult me about my upbringing.
@McCulleys Workshop: When I saw him for the first time on the putting green I thought I was in a scene of Game of Thrones
@Grasshopper: @Roger: Seems like he has adapted in the last few weeks?! What you got him on Rog, Barley Green?
@Speartackle: Lol that’s classic, hahaha. I thought he would look like Kingsly Holegate with a name like Bush, only to see he looks like Prince William… It must be that silver spoon.
@Playa: That’s pity, they always Lekker to go too. Lots of catching up and talk about performance at Altitude. How was the game overall? Did you get any info on the game?
@Bush: I didn’t watch the game unfortunately. With the benefit of hindsight, I should have made a long weekend of it, and gone up to the EC because everyone that I’ve spoken to puts it right up there with the best derbies they have ever seen.It pains me that I missed it.
@Tang: It will be great if PBHS can be back. We are all looking forward to it. Hope it is sooner than later.
@4×4: You make me laugh! You said “Daar sal daadwerklik gekyk moet word na sterker opposisie.”Should PBHS do the same with the hockey then?
@Playa: Hi Playa, looks like the Dale game was a good one. Did you go to the match?
@Candies: just had a quick glance. Hockey is ranked the 15th most popular sport in the world in comparison to rugby which is ranked 6th. I gather hockey should be deemed as a participation sport and not a competitive sport then.
@Candies: Congratulations with the hockey….where does it rank again on the national sport chart?
Spear hoe lyk dinge in Toti?Ek hoop jy cope met altitude…dit n bliksem,lekker week vir u
@Ringo: DW is not coming to the Lions.He will stay in WP
@Speartackle: Thanks for the kind words Spear. Ja Hangbal is not well. I’m just giving back to a sport that shaped my life. Have a lekker day.
@4×4: I haven’t seen the results but I heard that the hockey was one way traffic? to PBHS??
@4×4: it is sad when a long rival and derby becomes too one sided. Glenwood had a period like that with DHS and vice versa. Hoping PBHS can hit back, but they need to start with a very strong grade 8 intake and build it over 5 years, two strong years combining in the opens. Jeppe have done it & other schools too.
Off topic, I would loved to have seen Affies take on Monnas at 1st & A team levels, that would have been pretty close, except under16 maybe where Monnas are off the scale good.
@Tang: That is my personal point a view. Unfortunately PBHS has not been much of a opposition the past 4 to 5 years. Did you peruse the results of Saturday’s games? It is not a pretty picture.
I for one will live to see PBHS back with a bang as the tradition between the two schools are really awesome, and closers competition will not just make it another game, but rather a true derby what is should be.
@Rugger fan: thanks boet, yeah I heard your under16a put their bodies on the line big time. Some people were talking up 80 points beforehand. Seemed evenly matched across the board. Grey come down to Durban this year, thank goodness! I believe SA Schools & SA A team players are not playing. I still see Grey by 40 to 50, but I hoped to be proven wrong.
@umbiloburger, Grassie & Greenblooded: A great day out – GW were certainly stronger down the age groups and there were not many teams below the “A” band that were walk overs to MC like last year. Good to see a strong performance across the board.
Once again – the 1stXV game on Goldstones seemed to bring out the best in College – who were in with a large chance until a clean break lead to that try under the poles. The refs time allowed almost lead to a try by college to draw the match with an attacking lineout on the GW lline.
Exciting stuff – and what SBR should be about. Good luck to the KZN team travelling to bloem next week.
@Roger: happy to say I was wrong, well done Malcolm. Good players can adapt to new positions, like he has done. I mean Warren Whiteley played flyhalf until under16. Kyle is still a very good player, just been out of sorts the past 2 years since the whole friends Kings Park murder, getting married, having a baby and the club incident. I think his move to the UK is a good one, where scrums are more important. He might come back a better player. Still think he could become a Bok quotas aside.
@Grasshopper: House didn’t play Glenwood in 2006 and 2007 due to teachers strikes and a flu epidemic.
Looks like Whiteley and Adendorf stayed on another year. i knew Adendorf did but didn’t realise that Whiteley had as well. They were U19 and it seems like they both played for the Sharks U19’s that year and were to old for Craven Week.
@Bush: Thanks for a nice golf day Bushie. Finishing 8th and winning a bottle of wine and RJ’s vouchers much better than the hair dryer I won at Grey golf day. Now I know why you call yourself Bush……I thought it was because you remind me of Billy Bush but it was all the bushes you hit your balls into. Just kidding, ……jeepers this Bushie can tonk a ball…..Taylor Made driver with a white shoe shined head……slight draw….300 metres down the middle….time and again. I started par, birdie and then all of a sudden my shots started going straight right…..Bushie calls it a shank. Weird okes in our four ball….the one dude rolls around doing yoga exercises on Bushie’s backswing. Bush missed a 2 foot birdie putt that could have given us sole 4th place and free entrance and VIP entertainment Saturday at Glenwood.
Bushie is a big shot here in Toti and does a lot for Toti Rugby Club and is well respected.
And I wont look for kak with him…..
@Flanker: Parktown and KES played at the age group levels – the opens didn’t play this year. I’m sure the fixture will be back on next year. The one Mpheku has barely played – got injured early and the other (Kennedy) was injured – then had a stellar game against College – got injured again – was back for Craven Week and played the last two games. They will be a force next year – both very good players
congrats Malcolm Marx on your selection to the Springbok squad. I wonder if ol Grassy still thinks his move to hooker was an real error in judgement but the coaches
Is Kyle Cooper still your man Hopper or are you a Marx fan now – even if only at number 7
@meadows: maybe, see this link; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/node/3123
Don’t see a House result, maybe left out by mistake.
@Grasshopper: Quite likely to be Kyle Cooper in 2006. Whiteley may have been there in 2006 as well but I am pretty sure that he left in 2005, the year that he played Craven Week. He definitely wasn’t in the CW side in 2006. In addition to Muir Glenwood also contributed Nsika Khuzwayo and Tshepo Mashele to the 2006 CW squad which was dominated by College and Westville. Whiteley may of course have stayed on a year and been to old for CW in 2006.
@Tang: certain things in live will never change, boys high need to get back to being competitive, only losing by 10 points
@meadows: http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/node/3054
Almost sure that is Warren with the skinhead at the back and Kyle with curlies on the right. Dean Muir, hugely underrated player, doing quite well at the Pumas now. Certainly better than the Sharks Ix hooker when they played a few weeks ago…real grunt.
@Grasshopper: Warren Whiteley finished in 2005. He played flank in the Craven Week side with Mike Rhodes and Pat Cilliers. Hilton’s Roddy Grant was the No 8.
I would be surprised if you beat Grey in Whiteley’s year because as it can’t have been an especially strong year at Glenwood. MHS beat Glenwood in Durban in 2005 with one of their weaker sides of the decade with 3-4 U16’s in the backline.
It may have been in 2006 when Kyle Cooper was in Std 9 and still playing loose forward. I don’t recall 2006 or 2007 being particularly strong years at Glenwood. The only Glenwood Craven Week player I can remember in those years was the hooker Dean Muir who played CW in 06 and 07 (when he was definitely Glenwood’s only representative). Kyle Cooper didn’t play CW.
@4×4: Be very careful. There are many PBHS Old Boys who are not happy with results. PBHS rugby will be back. In a few years, it may be one way traffic in the opposite direction.
@4×4: Is that an official Affies position or just your view?
@odie15: look back in the record books and see the u15A results from when JJ was at your tournament and then look at last years results. A GLENWOOD vs Boishigh game would be a brilliant fixture.
@Grasshopper: I think all the teams will play to win. It has to be that way.
@Roger: The way I wish Parktownplayed Kes this year. Have the mpeku’s made a difference in the kes team
@Grasshopper: every cloud……
@odie15: Dominance over Maritzburg College continues, since 2010. You need to read properly. Would love a Boishaai fixture at WK next year, our last time there we got a good win. JJ played 2nd team this weekend, not sure why..
@Grasshopper: hey man I am just amused in 1 line you saying Glenwood dominance continues next you conceding 50 points….its like reading jeckle and hyde! We just love your yoyo comments dont get wound up by reactions received. Maybe you get Boishaai draw for Wildeklawer and JJ can sort us out next year.
@Grasshopper: I hope your 1st and 2nd team players don’t ever get to see that post
@odie15: For the 10th time we all know SANIX is NOT a World Champs, the term ‘world’ only refers to the fact that teams attend from around the world. We have beaten Grey once, in 2006 when they had a weak year and that was at home with Warren Whiteley & Kyle Cooper in the side. We are never favourites vs them and they beat Affies. One needs to be realistic. We also never expected to beat Affies away.
Evening BOG, you are right Speartackle missed his calling in life. Playing golf on the Sunshine Curcuit. Felt guilty getting my four ball price when Spear plays off a scratch but registers himself as 23 handicap??????????
@Grasshopper: not a very positive statement that for World Champions is it?
@umbiloburger: Next week vs Grey, the aim must be to keep the score below 50 in the 1st & 2nd teams. Under16 & Under14A have good chances of upsets.
@RBW4Life: It was a magnificent day of rugby with some brilliant skill on display. Both schools must be complimented.
@Ringo: Thanks for the heads up.I’ll be very very specific.
EC season ends on the last week of August.Dale have Hudson Park next week then Queens.Both will want a heron scalp.It won’t be easy to get wind in either game
@Playa: Yeah the season down in the EC is remarkably long hey commesertions to Dale again sure the remainder of the teams you face are gonna catch a backlash of note
Ps: My sangoma deals with only specific instructions if you do ask you don’t get as can be seen with the unexpected loss of what was a number 1 ranked u16a team who beat Affies quite convincingly for them to lose to KES was a shock result of the day
@BrotherBear: I am not sure where the comment about shying away from contact stems from but maybe its constructive criticism for the boy. But initially my concern was about his size but ja the thing is with a talented 19 year old kid all he needs is guidance and the right turtoledge his skills as a rugby player can be natured and short comings refined to develop a better player. Potential and talent is there for the boy to become a decent bok in my humble opinion
@Ringo: Eish he that’s how the cookie crumbles.I think the boys can take getting that 100th win as a highlight worth more than getting the double.Two tough games ahead….certainly no time to wallop.
Well done to the black and whites of Jeppe!You’ve been wanting this since the beginning of the season.Quite a convincing scoreline too.Must be sweet.
P.S. I have fired my sangoma.I’ll need the details of yours.
@RBW4Life: Historically College cannot be touched, but if results go as they have been for the past decade in 50 years from now they might be caught up. Nothing but respect for the Black, Red and White. Nice dig though ;-)
Well done Maritzburg College…The school will always be the best rugby school in KZN..
@Ringo: the only difference w.r.t. the two international players you mention is that they do not shy away from physical contact and have a relatively balanced game (not only running). Very important for the boys to realise what their strengths are and focus on these, when they make a future decision. The Jeppe no 8 may also excel at 7’s?
@theblackandwhite: Agree with you in regard to the KES boys in the stands real pity but I can’t complain…..
I also used to think Hachivah should convert to a back in later life but then I see the success and game changing contribution that are made by small mobile forwards like Ardie Savea, Jaco Kriel and co …… think the game needs to adopt accommodate small mobile skillful forwards but those boys are great all of them…. I agree with you in regard to our season next year it will be very decent and the future looks very bright for rugby at the school
@4×4:
Kan jy asseblief bevestig waar jy die telling van 72 – 6 kry. Ek verstaan daar was 11 driee (Marnus 2, Louritz 2 en Carel, Phillip, Jack, Dylan, Ruben, Jaco en Desesde) plus 6 vervyfskoppe. As jy korrek is moes daar dus 12 driee gewees het?
@Ringo: the more I watch Hachivah play, the more I am convinced he will play in the back line at senior rugby level.
@Roger: it was a great day out yesterday. I was surprised at how subdued the KES boys in the stands were, there was very little spirit there and that was the only disappointment for me. The ref did make some harsh calls but in fairness he made some bad calls in the favour of both schools. A KES friend of mine told me that the majority of your team is back next year – they will be pretty strong next year. Ringo – I think Jeppe will surprise some teams next year and then after that they will be strong, we have 3 consecutive strong age groups coming through which I am not sure we have had before.
@robbie: OK, ek verstaan – stem saam! Dink @AbsolutMenlo se voorstel is die roete, maar PBHS het reeds gesê hulle stel nie belang om dit te doen nie – hulle sien dit mos asof hulle hul siel verkoop. Verstaan dit nie mooi nie want in die verlede het PBHS goeie werwing gedoen en hulle was mededingend.
Maar toe verloor hulle vir PA en dink hulle dat dinge net vanselfsprekend sal gebeur – wat toe nie die geval was nie en kyk waar sit hulle nou en nou blameer hulle alles behalwe hulself.
@4×4: As Affies dalk aanbied om in die vervolg met hul 4e/5e spanne teen PBHS se A-spanne te speel kan dit meer mededingend wees.
@Robbie ek dink die groot skole was maar oor die jare sterker weens getalle maar die gaping raak groter. Swakker skole het en ek glo sal in die toekoms steeds n goeie speler of twee oplewer. Ek dink nie daar is genoeg goeie spelers om bv in die wp 10 skole te skep wat so goed is soos die huidige top 3 nie. Derhalwe uit n sa ontwikkelings oogpunt werk die huidige sisteem kyk maar na die klein unies in curriebeker daar is net genoeg kwaliteit spelers om hulle kompeterend te maak nie.
@Roger: interestingly Monakali played on the flank when he came on the field in the second half thought that was peculiar
@Roger: Kes will have an exceptional team next year quite frightening .. . Simalane and Hachivah are staying at the lions Green had not committed but with DW from the Paul Roos coming to the lions the opportunity might be at Province for Mr Green but I have not heard anything but the boy will continue with rugby post school I am certain of that…..
next year will be nice already druelling over the prospects our team will be a combination u16a and 2rd XV as most of them are grade 11s
@Ringo: looking forward to next year already – KES will have a very good team!
@Ringo: congrats – I thought Mills and Monakali might keep Green and Simelane quiet – but not to be. Going to be very interesting to watch all these kids progress at the Lions. Glade, Gordon and Mpheku all still grade 11 but Hacivah, Simelane, Monakali, Green etc have big futures if the stay in the game? Are the Lions losing any of these players?
@Roger: Yeah they all did….. Monakolli came on in the second half Hachivah was a men amongst boys in the forwards also need to remember Henry Wincus u19 prop from Jeppe was a craven week player for two years soo against the youngsters in Kes front row he took them to town….. Think Parktown and Waterkloof did us a favour and the boys we pumped for the game…..
@vleis thought the ref JD who is one of the better refs from the union may even be a future test ref was very fair the pass was forward and it was brave that he called Kes back and also he blew the whistle immediately signalling a forward pass if not green might have flown after the Mpeku boy and relealed him in but I have seen those not called before especially for Kes who love the flat to slightly forward pass behind a rush up defence line
Commeserations to our friends from Yoeville my sangoma did not want me to have a medical event I did not consult for u16 a as I thought they did not need my prayers but then KES u16 a played the derby with the spirit and hunger it deserves and they took it 27 – 25 talk about an upset unless I am mistaken that was only their 5 win of the season…….
only blemish for Jeppe in the a teams. It was nice to see tye headmasters of both schools chatting and interacting with MEC Lesufi from what I hear he was there to understand learn the secrets of what makes these state schools work and if it can be replicated in less affluent envirements I encouraged by his willingness to engage with stakeholders….. pity about his political affiliations but this not the forum……
Back the reason I have spliting headache only crawled out my bed only an hour ago prayed for an exhibition and an exhibition was delivered……
The three Hachivah, Simalane and Green were superb yday played some of the best SBR or even rugga I have seen in while Green’s defence was stellar the boy was all over the place we sworely missed Hachivah in the other two games but his freshness was marvel in tbis last game……
Thank you to all involved at Jeppe you have made die hard and fair weather supporters truly happy to join and jump on your coat tails four wins in a decade is already 300% improvement on the previous decade the future is bright and will be very competitive and long may public schools prosper like these two fine institutions that were on showcase yday can continue to give opportunities to all members of society.
scores if memory serves me
1st XV 36 – 17
2rd XV 13 – 11
u16 a 25 – 27
u15a 18 – 12
u14a 25 – 21
it was also very pleasant to see how competitive the lower teams there were some blowouts in Kes favour but generally games played in good spirit and even on the Hockey field our boys represented themselves well 1st won 3- 2 and if I am not mistaken the u14a hockey team finished their season undefeated and we won most of the Hockey matches
@playa sorry that amadoda did not pull of a double on their foes but you are so far ahead in the head to head that a win tend to me more to your rivals than you but Dale has been exceptional this season
@Quagga die Wolf: @Vleis: missed the game but I hear Jeppe were well up for it – good on them. Surprised the KES u16a won as this Jeppe team is really rated!? Did Gordon, Monakali, Mpheku and Glade all play?
@Quagga die Wolf: Myns insiens sal daar defnitief gekyk moet word vir Garsies, Menlo, EG Jansen, Monnas en Middelburg HTS as plaasvervangende wedstryde. Ek dink dit kan deur maar sal daar op dieselfde dag ook wedstryde vir die laer spanne gereel moet word.
Ek het met die Affies onder 15 span die jaar gesien wat diepte aan ‘n span kan maak. Dit is heel toevallig ook my gunsteling span…hulle het van laasjaar na die jaar 100% verbeter
@AbsolutMenlo: Ongelukkig Ja. Net die onder 15A’so wat 22-6 gewen het…die res was maar eenrigting verkeer. Daar sal daadwerklik gekyk moet word na sterker opposisie.
@4×4: Was ander wedstryde ook so one sided?
@robbie: Die “trend” gaan verseker nie stop nie. Die uitdaging moet wees om meer skole in die “professional” mindset te kry. Dit is ook nie van toepassing net op rugby nie … ander sportsoorte waar dinge meer professioneel bedryf word wys dieselfde “trend”.
Ek dink in Noordvaal met die Beeld trofee is daar ten minste vir al die skole ‘n uitdaging om in die uitspele te kom en om as kampioen gekroon te word.
In WP is die GROOT GAME elke jaar ‘n gegewe … interskole Boishaai vs Gim.
Kom ek gebruik die WP as voorbeeld. Op die oomblik tel slegs Boishaai, Gim en Paul Roos en tot ‘n mindere mate Landbou. Voorheen was die aantal kompeterende skole baie meer – veral uit die Suid-Skiereiland en die Engelse skole. Rugby het by die top 4 skole so professioneel geword dat die ander skole nie kan bybly nie. Die stelling wat ek maak is in reaksie op ‘n vorige blog na aanleiding van die Affies – PBH wedstryd van gister. Wat gaan oor 10 jaar gebeur as die “trend” voortduur. Ek dink nie dis goed vir SA rugby nie, maar ek het nie ‘n oplossing nie.
@Grasshopper: goodness gracious you are even a bigger idiot than I initially thought
@robbie: Verduidelik bietjie meer!
Hier gaan binnekort ‘n kentering in Suid-Afrikaanse skolerugby kom oor die “haves” en “have nots” van skoleruby – die skole wat bereid is om groot geld uit te gee en die wat rugby as ‘n tydverdryf beskou. Die “have nots” gaan in getalle groter word terwyl die elite “haves” kleiner in getal gaan word. Ek neem nie standpunt in vir of teen nie, maar dit is ‘n realiteit. Skole, onder aanvoering van “old boys” bedryf die saak. Waar gaan dit eindig ? As die elite skole se ou tradisionele opponente nie meer daar is nie, teen wie gaan hulle speel ?
@Djou @4×4: Garsies sal baie beter kompetisie bied. PBHS moet voortaan maar daar tussen die skole meeding wat soos hulle nie so kwaai gefokus is op top vlak skolerugby nie.
@Vleis: I was there too. See some people estimate 15000 spectators watching the game. Gees was awesome. I agree with your views on the game. I expected more of the KES pack yesterday. Jeppe were solid for their win.
@4×4: Sien elders hulle het gesettle op 67-6!
Goeie punt – PBHS se rugby het agteruit gegaan en dit is jammer om te sê maar tensy hulle ‘n nuwe rigting inslaan gaan dit net verder verswak/op ‘n swak vlak bly.
Dalk moet Affies gaan vra of die wedstryd moet voortgaan want dit doen nou baie skade aan PBHS! En ongelukkig is die probleem baie dieper as afrigting.
Telling Affies v PBHS is verkeerd…moet 72-6 wees. Grootste telling in geskiedenis teen PBHS…..Vraag is nou of dit werklik kompitisie bied en of die wedstryde nounet vir geskiedkundige belang geword het.
Dink daar sal dalk ook oorweging geskenk word om ander bepalings by die rugbybepalings in te trek!
I attended the KES v Jeppe game yesterday. The place was absolutely packed – well over 10,000 people. I thought that KES was a little unlucky with the ref’s decisions, but Jeppe was the better team on the day. I was quite surprised at how the Jeppe scrum absolutely smashed the KES scrum. They were very fired up.
Both teams gave the ball a lot of air, which made for an interesting game, but I thought that KES’s backline play was a bit one dimensional (i.e. always spreading the ball to the wing) so was easier to defend.
My other observation was that Jeppe relied very heavily on their three superstars – Simelane, Green and Hacjivah. The rest of the players were solid, but the aforementioned three (especially Hacjivah) were Jeppe’s game breakers.
There was a nice war-cry interplay between the Jeppe Old Boys on the one side of the field with the Jeppe schoolboys on the other side – good to see.
@Bush: true, but he must be first choice to replace Oom Dawie!
@Grasshopper: There is a massive difference between boys and men. Some guys have this amazing ability with kids, which Sean must have. Leave him there.
Daar was gister 7 17 jarige spelers in die Paarl Gim span is dit almal graad 11 leerders?
@Grasshopper: College u16A fought like demons. GW were amazing. Great Team
@Grasshopper: What other career is there for them, other than reffing
@GreenBlooded: agree with this, he certainly deserves higher Honours. Certainly a lack of quality coaches in SA. For some reason ex Boks seem to think they can coach & manage franchises…
Geluk Boishaai krediet moet gegee word aan Sean Marais wat in die 2de helfte die spelpatroon verander het en met skopwerk, aanval van die afbreekpunte en die onverdedigbare rolmaal beweging die gang van die wedstryd verander het. Krediet ook aan Gim wat skeppend was en maklik in die rooi zone driee gedruk het en Boishaai se bekende verdediging maklik deurdring het. Gim se vaste vyf wat die sa skole voorry onder druk geplaas het verdien ook krediet. Aan Boishaai se kant was 7 Horne uitstaande en vir Gim 8 Uys en 12 van Niekerk, hierdie spelers sal dit op senior vlak maak. Ek moet ongelukkig eerlik wees, die res van die sa skolespelers was teleurstellend gemiddeld. Ek het nog nooit gesien dat n skrum met 4 van die vaste 5 in die sa skole span onder druk verkeer nie. Soos ek voorheen ook geskryf het bevraagteken ek die keuse van sa skolespelers sommiges het selfs 2 jaar die span gehaal.
http://schools.sarugbymag.co.za/erasmus-must-join-professional-ranks/
@Beet: Cambridge 15-17 Stirling
@jakes: jakes, laaste wedstryd van seisoen en laaste leer in ‘n witbul trui. Dit was hulle sterkte span.
Well done Green Machine, a win on Goldstones is always tough. College have gradually improved as the season progressed and Glenwood declined. The winning streak continues, last lost to College in 2010. I think the boys will want s decade! I was surprised by the under16a result, only 49-0. I was expecting 70 plus. College must have played well.
Has Affies played a full strenght team against PBHS? Like like year a much bigger score was predicted.