| DATE | TIME | TEAM | TEAM | VENUE | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri.12Aug | 13h00 | France | 23 | 18 | England | City Park Stadium, Cape Town |
| Fri.12Aug | 14h30 | SA Schools A | 20 | 23 | Italy | City Park Stadium, Cape Town |
| Fri.12Aug | 16h00 | SA Schools | 23 | 17 | Wales | City Park Stadium, Cape Town |
| Tue.16Aug | 13h00 | Wales | 41 | 15 | Italy | Bishops, Cape Town |
| Tue.16Aug | 14h30 | SA Schools A | 53 | 14 | England | Bishops, Cape Town |
| Tue.16Aug | 16h00 | SA Schools | 42 | 3 | France | Bishops, Cape Town |
| Sat.20Aug | 13h00 | France | 21 | 30 | Italy | Paarl Boys’ High, Paarl |
| Sat.20Aug | 14h30 | SA Schools A | 17 | 18 | Wales | Paarl Boys’ High, Paarl |
| Sat.20Aug | 16h00 | SA Schools | 13 | 12 | England | Paarl Boys’ High, Paarl |
Well done Mark Snyman with the try in last minutes for SA A. We know you have the X-factor and glad to see the injury niggle did not affect your effort. Pity it was not converted – Wales over eager/unsportmans-like? Well, the unexpected is one aspect that makes sport interesting.
Gianni showed very good nerve in his final kick, to let SAS win.
@Vleis: for the record including school, CW and SA schools. Salmaan Moerat and Manny Rass has played about 50 matches in 2 seasons @ u18 level. Not lost a game. Congrats you 2 thats some going.
Wow, how did the SA B team manage to beat England by 40, but the A team needed a last minute conversion to win by one?
Lombard NAILS the conversion and SA Schools WIN by 13-12. Sweet. Sweet victory.
Moerat scores!
England earn their 3rd yellow card for a 3td high tackle in a row. 12-6 to ENG at 68 min. SAS on attack.
Interesting match stat: so far 5+ phases: England set up 5 so far and SAS 0.
Very clever try by Tom Willis the England U19 #8 against SA Schools. England leading 12-3 after 48 min.
SA Schools trailing 3-5 at halftime against England. Three yellows already, one against SAS and two against England. Brutal out there. Channel 198.
@Quagga die Wolf: Ek stem saam . Asseblief beide !!!!!
Mense hoe het die SA Skole A gevaar? Kan ons nie liewer rugby praat nie asseblief?
@BoishaaiPa: Ek, soos vele, skud, ook maar my kop oor jou lee ongesteunde stellings. En moet tog nou nie jouself kom voorhou as die verontregde en onskuldige party nie. As iemand n aanvegbare stelling maak, ongeag waar, dan moet hy n reaksie verwag. En net terloops, jy sal miskien verbaas wees om te weet dat jou stellings en opinie, nogal profeties is- 2 Tim.3:1-5 en 2 Thess.2:3, ingeval jy n Bybel het.
@BOG: Ek skud maar net my kop in ongeloof…ek is glad nie eers half opgewerk nie. Los nou maar die geteem…dit hoort nie hier nie. Ek het aan Mculley W n stelling gemaak toe moet soos altyd jou opinie gee wat altyd volgens jou reg is. Ek het nie die tyd of die lus om met jou te debatteer nie want dit is sinneloos. Glo maar wat jy glo its no skin off my back. Sela
@BoishaaiPa: Was dit vanoggend toe jy geskeer het? Lyk my n goeie 70% van SA is “missing links”. Maar ek merk jy loop wye draaie om feite waarvan jy nie hou of wat jou agendatjie nie steun nie. Jy praat deurgaans van “overwhelming evidence” en maak stellings in die algemeen, maar niks word “ge-back” deur jou sg bewyse nie. Maar hulle se mos, as jy vir n evolusionis/ateis/liberaal wil kwaad maak, vertel hom die waarheid.
I think I have found the missing link…
@Deon: Die wrak van daardie “moviese boot”, soos jy dit noem, is gevind terloops. Netnou, of probeer julle nog steeds, vir my en miljoene ander, vertel, ons deel dieselfde voorgeslag, as n aap? Die ondersteuners wat hierdie grappie glo- soos ook met die “big bang” (Dit is nou daardie “knal”, wat veroorsaak is deur niks nie, en alles wat ons sien, tot gevolg gehad het) probeer natuurlik hard om dit te “intellektualiseer”, maar ek se altyd, sulke mense is nie “van die aap nie”, maar hulle is “nog steeds ape”. As dit so was, dan is my oupa , pous Benedict IX. Daar is vele dwalinge in die wereld, maar as hulle so dwaling aanhang, moet hulle net nie dit as n “wetenskaplike feit” probeer aanbied, terwyl dit duidelik nie so is nie. Dit is “slangolie handel” En daarmee volstaan ek.
@Robbie: op 198
Ek vermoed Garsies gaan more wen….
@robbie: sal ook graag wil weet. Lyk my Paul Roos v Grey word gebeeldsaai op 210
Word more se skoletoetse op TV uitgesaai ?
@Rainier Vermaak aka AKW: @Deon: Agree 100%
Wat van so bietjie “fun” het op die blog.
@BOG: Geen rede om jouself met 22 ure se googlde besig te hou nie. Praat sommer uit commonsense oogpunt uit en OH JA
n bietjie
@Rainier Vermaak aka AKW: Ek stem saam. Heeltemal onvanpas. Volgende ding vertel oom Bog ons dalk net van ‘n ou man wat ‘n moeviese boot gebou het, twee van ALLE diere op aarde daarin gepak het, en 40 dae en nagte rondgedryf het, en toe in ‘n berg vasgery het, en “steve-wetenskaplikes” wat die wrak gevind het. Kinders lees hierdie blog, hulle neem wetenskap en biologie en het oor die algemeen common sense.
I don’t know if this is the correct site but here is a bit of actual schoolboy rugby info regarding the team selections for tomorrow’s internationals including more than perhaps a surprise or two.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154314604042347&id=36950597346
Ek gee nie om as julle mekaar kak byt oor rugby en selfs politiek nie, maar ‘n gesprek oor geloof, evolusie vs “creationism” ensovoorts is heeltemal onvanpas. En los asb Christopher Hitchens vs Angus Buckhan praatjies, niemand gaan mekaar oor die internet oortuig nie.
I will refrain from discussing this topic any further as it adds no value to this site and probably falls into the no go zone of religion and politics!..
@BOG: That was not me saying it..it was actually a quote from Live Science. I wonder who is now living with his head in the sand..and I am not offended at all, just completely surprised that what I thought was a relatively informed person could be so naive. I dont know where you get your info from but you must read a little wider and maybe spend more time on Discovery channel…o wait..its probably also a bunch of myths being told just to make money!..
@BoishaaiPa: You are trying to sell snake oil to me and some others who are gullible enough to buy. It would seem that a few might bite, but the majority wont. There is absolutely no “overwhelming” evidence, as you suggest, and thousands of scientists say that very explicitly. You obviously feel offended, by discovering that being an adherent of this fraud, does not make you intellectually superior. On the contrary. I dont easily “google” and you are welcome to search as much as you like for my comments. You wont find them. @MikeSt: You will notice that I have been “googling” since 14:55 yesterday, to come up with what I said here.
@tzavosky: You are willing to trade in your IOU’s so Spear can read me a bedtime story. I will get in touch with him tomorrow, he has quite a lekker voice.
@Bush: No, you should be able to google! Ask Spies for help, he owes me.
@tzavosky: Does this come in picture format? Or in HD or 3D
@Bush: But then there is the law of unintended consequences:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Green_Belt
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Demilitarized_Zone#Nature_reserve
@MikeSt: Here’s copy and paste “The modern sociologists will tell you that race is a social construct and not biological. They will tell you that race does not exist and that it all comes down to culture and the society the people live in.
They ignore the fact that the human races (note plural) are all still evolving and go out from the premise that evolution has stopped and we have all reached the endline and are now all the same and equal.
This is of course rubbish, seeing that evolution still takes place and is quite recent such as people in the Himalayas and Andes mountains developing a genetic trait to live at high altitudes.
Now rapid social change is possible. We have seen it at the end of the 19th century how Japan catapulted itself from a middle aged feudal system into the modern twentieth century. Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea did basically the same. In fact in the social experiments of the two Koreas and the two Germanys the people are/were the same, but the failure of the political, economical and social system of Communism was clearly evident in East Germany and North Korea. “
@MikeSt: Daar is ook die moontlikheid dat sommiges ‘n voldag werk het, en net gou vinnig oor die etensuur en na werk hier inloer…
@QC86: They’ve also evolved
Anybody remember the lineout calls??
@Speartackle: Klomp Dr Googles Spies. Kyk hoe lank die posts uitmekaar is. Hulle gaan doen eers research dan copy en paste hulle
@Speartackle: Jy is eintlik n goeie voorbeeld van evolusie aangesien jy uit n tril ontwikkel het tot n skafbare human being!..
@BOG: yes Steve..all secular scientists..go figure!..How long did it take you to google all that?…Because Bog says so it is facts?..I know you are the one being suckered. Just leave it because you are digging your own hole deeper and deeper. If you believe in the 6 day creation…I have a bridge to sell..interested?
@Bog, @Boishaai, @Speartackle, @Travesty: another compelling idea is that evolution does Not exclude creation or vice versa. Both are forces in the same universe. In my “world” the latter is primary.
Ag asseblief tog….hou nou op kak praat en laat my eerder lag. Di een probeer slimmer as die ander klink
@BoishaaiPa: @BoishaaiPa: I think that you have a problem with comprehension. I quoted SCIENTISTS. And it is not only creationists who reject the fraud of evolution, but also a long list of secular scientists. I like the way how you avoid this. Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist at the Museum of natural history in London, said, “Most of you here will have to admit that in the last 10 yrs we have seen the basis of evolution go from fact to faith” Wilfred Hahn said, ” We see supposedly learned people who dont heed facts, because much of the thinking in this field, is driven by adherence to atheism and denial of creation. For some reason this branch of socalled scientific inquiry feels itself above the requirement of proof to elevate its beliefs to fact” I think the last sentence describes you correctly. IL Cohen, also a secular scientist, said :”—every single concept advanced by the theory of evolution, is imaginary and it is not supported by the scientifically established facts of microbiology, fossils,and mathematical probability concepts” It would appear that I am not isolated in my opinions , opinions supported by thousands of scientists who reject the fable of evolution. Equally, I shall have to look at your opinions in this light. Where is your overwhelming evidence? And then I have not even gone into the detail. And you have the audacity of speaking about losing credibility? It would seem that you and a few others here, have been caught for a sucker. Fact is, however you look at it, there is absolutely no consensus on this. It is certainly not a scientific fact. Rather a scientific fraud.
@BrotherBear: BOG has always been alternative thinker though…I mean who ever thought that Shosholoza originated in some Tanzanian brothel
So, at least there are a few people on the blog that think further than their noses and have some gravitas for alternative thinking.
@McCulleys Workshop: Again most Probably..most definitely an Angus Buchan fan!…
@tzavosky: Do you think we could have an Adam & Steve here?
@McCulleys Workshop: Probably not…still at least another 5 left!
@BoishaaiPa: I thought a cat had nine lives, have they all been used?
@BoishaaiPa: 100%…nothing further my lord
@BOG: I think you have just lost all credibility on any subject you ever commented on in my eyes..That is my opinion in any case…coming up with such drivel against factual science and actually believing in it against overwhelming evidence is unbelievable. How short sighted are you?…and unable to adapt it seems..that I can understand!
@Bush: Hehehe
At least I can say that the mother has extremely good taste in men – gene pool nice and strong. hehehe
People normally look for missing links under soil. Imagine the link actually from the wide blue yonder.
@BrotherBear: Coming from Helpmekaar, anyone could be the father and you the missing link.
@tzavosky: Exactly!..
@BOG:I understand a lot better now…your previous comments makes a lot of sense…Ignorance in your case may be an excuse. Creationists is the real laughing stock of the science world…go and look that one up…
@BOG: https://ncse.com/project-steve
en
https://ncse.com/list-of-steves
@BoishaaiPa: Have you heard the words, “–in six days—” Some useful literature: “In Six Days: Why 50 scientists Chose to believe in Creation” (2001) and “The Genesis files:Meet 22 Modern Day Scientists Who believe in a Six Day Recent Creation”. But that is not only the opinion of creationists. Dr Fred Hoyle, British scientist rightfully said that the chances of the Boeing 747 coming into being after a storm in a junk yard, is better than life coming forth from evolution. Wolfgang Smith, added, “The point however, is that the doctrine of evolution has swept the world, not on the strength of its scientific merits, but precisely in its capacity as a Gnostic myth” I do hope, that in your misplaced wisdom, that you were not led to believe that there is consensus among scientists on the fraud of evolution. It would seem so. Is there truth in the rumour that the “Big Bang” occurred when Richard Dawkins, played with matches as a kid?
@BrotherBear: I hope Bogs kids have evolved!
@BOG, @BoishaaiPa: remember that there are also different theories w.r.t. Evolution.
@BOG: go and read up on the Galápagos Islands for modern proof of evolution.
I believe my family also entertains a form of evolution. My kids are much brighter and more talented than me!
But then, BUGGER, am I really the father? Hehehehe
@BOG: I cannot resist this…So please enlighten me..how did humans get on this earth?..The fable I believe in is obviously a myth and not proven science according to you.
@McCulleys Workshop: I rest my case…As you can see some opinionated comment based on personal beliefs. No facts presented, just statements based on nothing.
From Live Science…..
“Evolution by natural selection is one of the best substantiated theories in the history of science, supported by evidence from a wide variety of scientific disciplines, including paleontology, geology, genetics and developmental biology”
But I guess if you don’t believe in it you will try and ignore actual scientific facts and spew ant drivel to make you look intelligent!
@McCulleys Workshop: Now that he has acknowledged the underlying cause of his problems, perhaps he can address it. At least I can, with what I know now, try and have empathy. As they say, evolution is a theory, In fact, as the evidence shows, it is a desperate theory as it does not rest on scientific facts. Most questions, the delusional followers of evolution, cannot answer. Virtually millions upon millions of inconsistencies and impossibilities have not found explanation. Evolutionists, as illustrated very nicely, can only offer speculative theories and imaginings that have no evidential support. So, to say that evolution is a scientific theory,is mocking the legitimate historical discipline of science. So, I guess that if you are looking for a durable solution to the declining numbers at rugby matches, you should stay clear of evolution or the poor sods who believe in the fable.
@BoishaaiPa: I agree with your sentiments (one can get Bogged down with administrators) and feel that huge strides need to be made to retain the viewership and therefore the sponsorship. I would be interested to see the spectatorship stats in Europe, where my perception is that the sport is growing.
Was watching the u13 Craven Week this morning. One positive thing is the Development is there. Kids of all colours playing great rugby. All the coaching staff was white, just wondering if SARU is doing what Fiat and Peugeot did when they first entered SA. Pick the brains of the locals, get market share then toss you out.
@McCulleys Workshop: To continue where I left off…I am a big believer of the evolutionist theories and nature has proven over a long time that if you don’t adapt you will become extinct. Some of us are so set in their ways and still lives in the 60’s and 70’s and try and apply the same philosophies that existed then, that they too will eventually be moved to the side and become non-entities. To adapt and evolve do not necessary mean a change in values but rather a change in thinking and execution. The same theory can be applied to our rugby. We have amateur administrators that still apply the same type of thinking that existed way back when and cannot move forward and do a paradigm shift to move rugby into the modern era. Additional to this we have political interference that is wrong on all levels and will never work in any sporting environment. But in Aus and NZ they too have dwindling numbers of spectators and they dont have any political problems like we do, so that cannot be a major factor. The problem lies within the game itself. It has become boorish, one dimensional and stagnant and top that off with Bog -like administrators and you can see where the problem lies. The game needs less rules, specially at breakdown and rucks and a bit more panache and flair again. That is why SBR is still watchable…passion still prevails and running the ball is more the philosophy. Rugby use to be a sport for all shapes and sizes…unfortunately its not the case anymore….We need to look at the rules and try and make the game more fast paced and less of a crashball game….that is my 2 cents worth.
@Playa: My response was to answer the question and if the question relates to senior rugby, you dont nedd to add that it excludes SBR, Netball, picking your nose ect—- Re the presidency, I have a record of honesty, and that after my pigmentation disability, is my biggest draw back.@McCulleys Workshop: I dont have a solution. Rugby in the NH, seems to be flourishing and Im sure, the “big names” help. I believe that SA is sending yet another batch of 50. And we cannot compete with the exchange rate, and it can only get worse. By the way, I actually lived in the Cape,in the period mentioned by your pal. Paarl was little more than a farm, Stellenbosch one big drinking well and CT, just the mountain. In fact, the only good thing at the time, was the Clifton hotel, where your namesake, Mike Mc Culley played. The noise was bad, but who was interested in idle chatter, once you and the bird got glued together. Thats where I wish I had Mick Jaggers lips. Only went to the balcony for a breath of air. Today, its a dump, with 67 metric tons of crap pumped into the sea every day, the third most violent city in the world and squatters as far as you can see. I suppose that if you from Uitenhage, you will think its great.But to try and answer your question, perhaps move SARU HO to Bloemfontein. And for the record, I dont live there, and never have.
@McCulleys Workshop: Make BOG president
@BOG: Ok, other than social engineering, what needs to be done?
@odie15: When did this bash it up thing start? I have never seen live games of Gerber and the Du Plessis, but used to catch some old games on ESPN Classic. Those okes had skills, and played smart rugby. When did it go wrong?
P.S. Gerber’s side step is up there with the most lethal I have ever seen
@Playa:
Correction to that last line: “…if your answer to BHP, we would not have had this back and forth we’ve just had.”
You can take the man out of Border, but you cannot take the Border English out of him
@BoishaaiPa: space is King! That was a Danie Gerber trait special stuff…
@McCulleys Workshop: Stop watching the refs and watch the game
@BOG: No, I said the article only refers to one competition. And I was not arguing with you. Just pointing out different perspectives that have contributed to dwindling viewership numbers. Amongst them, there will be the fact that SA professional rugby is dull and boring.
And if you had just said this: “…It does not however mean that I do not still have a dwindling interest in SBR.” – quoted from post 332, in your answer to BHP, we would not have had this back and forth we’ve just had.
@McCulleys Workshop: The social structures of societies are changing because of technology etc, so the game need to adapt as well. In the 70’s and 80’s in the Freestate you had nothing else to do but go to Bloem and watch Grey in the morning and Free State in the aftenoon..That was you entertainment for the week. …Come to think of it , its probably still the same now. Besides Bloem the rest of the world is moving faster and faster and that is why you see a big swing towards the likes of 7’s and 20/20 cricket. The game will never completely disappear nor will the supporters, but there might be a swing in the type of venues and the type of game played…more on it later. I have to run.
@BOG: Do we then bury them or just leave them for the Birds of Prey?
@McCulleys Workshop: Force all black kids/”players of colour” (whatever that means) to play rugby and all white kids (whatever that means) to play soccer. Intervene socially at every level. We force them against their will and culture to do what we want them to do and if they refuse, imprison them, and after that, shoot them.
Salt water crocs of Denial River
@Playa: You say that I refer to just one competition, the S 16, which so happens to be the premier one in SA. You also say that the Currie cup is on life support. So, other than that, what is left ? Are they bringing back the Sport Pienaar? So, what is your argument? I responded to a direct question. It does not however mean that I do not still have a dwindling interest in SBR. Not difficult to understand. And yes, it is the second time that I have posted that article, and for a simple reason. To illustrate to some clever bloggers- and if you look, you will see who, that Im not sucking my thumb. Even Owen Nkumane remarked, “We are losing numbers”. But its no skin off my teeth if you choose to deny it. Many truths in SA are denied, so denying declining spectators at rugby matches, would not be such an issue. Recognising or acknowledging it, would require a response however and that is more difficult
@Playa: @BOG: @BoishaaiPa: Bog, what do you think would grow the game in SA, in number of participants and spectatorship?
@Playa: I’ve stopped watching because I hate all the refs that cheat at schoolboy level and rob deserving sides of their win and rightful No1 position. Whats worse is that these refs do it for no gain.
@BOG: I assumed that you contributed the drop in numbers to a lack of interest in the sport. Your response to Spear about the FS win was that you had a lack of interest in rugby (to which BHP asked why you’re on a rugby blog). Your response to Knowthegame was that you are one of thousands, and posted that article – not the first time you’ve posted it either. I wont gang up on you, but just needed to point out that the article referred to just one competition, which I am sure most of us are sick and tired of. And we all know that the Currie Cup is on life support, and has been since the extension of Super Rugby. I beg to differ that rugby support is on a decline. Nowadays, people would much rather spend their day at a schoolboy derby, then catch a local club rugby derby…you know the outdoor stuff…then maybe if they can still see straight catch that 7pm game somewhere. Lack of interest in certain competitions…yes…decline in interest in the game itself…I don’t think so.Even you haven’t lost interest in the game – you were exaggerating (which was BHP’s point in asking you that question)…or you were just speaking in OFS English again, so we’ll need McCulleys to qualify that statement for you.
@AndreT: Bears are in high demand due to their veracity, intensity and general pleasing appearance. They also allow a lot of space and are known to be quite flexible. Unfortunately they do not tolerate very rigid pr..ks. Hehehe
@Andre T: Didn’t even know you’d get a jockey that could fit that world record breaking muscle of yours
@Andre T: The one who is “in charge” of SA sport and watched the entire Olympics (and other activities too, Im sure) at your expense. Are you boasting or complaining about your Rio experience? You make it sound as if they pinched your underpants as a memento and that there may have been several fighting for it.
At least I have her bra strap for a souvenir
@Andre T: Eish! It must have been the same girls. Same modus operandi
@BOG: Which midget got robbed in Rio? I remember when I was in Rio with the soccer world cup as Uruguay’s psychologist it was very dangerous in those areas. Although the girls were beautiful they were very sly and also robbed me of my wallet and underpants. Damn and it was a very special pair of Bear ones. It was the only memory I had left of my 5th divorce
@BoishaaiPa: The choice of conversation, was entirely yours. You chipped in when I responded to a direct question from Spear. Are you so delusional that you dont realize that or are we seeing the first signs of Alzheimers? So, off you go. Go and play with your toys in Adderley St- at peak hour.@Andre T: Soos hierbo, het hy daardie aand ook met homself gesit en gesels.@Playa: I did not give any reasons for the decline in numbers. I think its for a variety of reasons. But too much of a “good” thing never lasts- rugby fatigue perhaps? It happened in NZ and Australia, and now in SA. We will have a few spikes, as we probably will have with the tests, but the trend is downwards. But I also believe that the outflow of top players will result in a loss of interest and the “off the ball” incidents, especially by that midget who was robbed in Rio s red light district, too.
@BOG: Decline in rugby viewership not an unintended consequence of too much rugby perhaps? I note that the article mentions a decline in NZ and Aus – so maybe rugby is a dying sport worldwide if we were to share your take.
No one has time to sit in front of a tv from 09:30 to 21:00 on a Saturday watching rugby anymore. And oh there’s that thing called PVR where one can record the games they want to watch for later viewing while they do family stuff during the day. truth is SANZAR overestimated the demand for rugby and have now forced us to consume an over-subscribed and dragged out Super Rugby competition.
Here’s something interesting regarding stadium attendance: The 1970 test vs All Blacks in Newlands fetched a capacity crowd of 52,000. The 1974 test vs the Lions was at 45,000. The 1976 test vs the All Blacks had a crowd of 38,000…
Of course there are challenges and problems that have contributed. I just thought to bring up the ones you may have missed Oom
@Rainier Vermaak aka AKW: Ek stem..Ons is geseend met paar baie goeie jong loskoppe. Vaskoppe is bietjie meer skaars.
@BoishaaiPa: Net solank jy nie met jouself argumenteer nie.
Ek dink Nathan Macbeth is great, maar gister het Cabous die beste wedstryd gespeel van enige loskop die jaar op skole vlak. Sy skrumwerk, lynstaan ondersteuning, afskop werk en werk in die vaste los was uitstaande.
@BrotherBear: Dit lyk ook of ek nou al met myself n gesprek voer in pleks van met ou T…seker maar ou gewoonte van beter geselskap soek!
@BoishaaiPa: That same No 6 flank that he had a go at and called illegal is still doing the same thing months later..He did it at CW and he did it for SA Schools yesterday with another international ref….must be bitter for him to see that!..
@BoishaaiPa. Maar @BOG kan mos nie deur daardie beskrywing geaffekteer wees nie. Hy is mos ‘n Cheetah (in nederlands is dit mos ‘n p..s). Weet julle manne is redelik tradisievas (outyds?) en die Hollandse bloed vloei mos nog sterk daar onder – maar nie so goed soos die wyn nie. Hehehe
@Andre T: Ek het hom n suur ou Pxxx genoem in pleks van n ou suurpxxx…of dalk moes ek die Ingels gebruik het van “sourpuss”…alles met dieselfde mening..word net verskillend gespel. Net soos sy beledigings aan ander!
@BOG: What did BoishaaiPa call you again the Grey game?
@BOG: And that is your opinion, which in my eyes counts even less..glibberig is die woord!..Still not a straight answer..but please..dont answer me as I will heed your advice about “meng jou met die semels”..I will prefer not to converse with hypocrites any further. Good day to you Sir.
@BOG: Ag … you know what I mean … if you don’t it’s also ok. Thank you for the explanation.
@BrotherBear: There are one or two perfect examples right here.
@BoishaaiPa: And your comment of “25 years in old government”, is not only factually incorrect, but is suggesting some kind of moral reflection. It could otherwise have been worse- I could have been a bankster.
@BoishaaiPa: Not that Im concerned about your opinion, but your approach, or is it “attitude”,ie “within the system” is generally known as “compromise”. Anders gesien, “Meng jouself met die semels en die varke vreet jou op”. For people with courage, its not an option. You should address your concern, or is it anger, to Supersport for reporting on the decline in rugby interest. Tell them to keep it “under wraps”. Hush-hush, all quitely— Or is that what they mean by, “living in a fools paradise”? And by the way, my expression of “non-interest”, was a direct response to Speartackles question to me.
@BOG: Your answer is showing your 25 years in old government !…Give a straight answer for once in your life!….My question was..if you have lost all interest in rugby, what are you still doing on a rugby blog?..Giving shitty answers and playing the intellectual wont cut it, You are not here for rugby but for controversy and somehow you think you are superior and the most knowledgeable person around and everyone else must bow to your wisdom..we know there is a lot wrong with a lot of things , rugby included, but we don’t run away from the problem, we try and work out a solution within the system. …
@BOG, @Andre T:
Motivation – so you either a PIG or a PRINCE?
Attitude – with the best attitude you will be a very messy and vile PIG or a true narcissistic and power hungry PRINCE?
@BOG: Boggie….your attitude just draws me closer and closer to you….it feels as if we are the same person….maybe we are
I shared this with some, but quite a while back- I think, still in “365 days’. It may also help@AbsolutMenlo: in distinguishing between different emotional concepts. These are the words of the legendary football coach of Notre Dame University, Lou Holtz. He is a Christian:
“ABILITY is what you are capable of doing. MOTIVATION determines what you do. ATTITUDE determines how well you do it. What is ATTITUDE? ATTITUDE is an inward feeling expressed by BEHAVIOUR. Its the “advance man” of our true selves. The roots of attitude are hidden, but the FRUIT is always visible. Your ATTITUDE is your best friend or worst enemy.It draws people to you or repels people from you. It is never content until it is expressed. ATTITUDE determines your success or failure in life. It is a choice,and your ATTITUDE is NEVER based on circumstances”
Every young person (and older ones) should have this stuck on their bathroom mirror, because if we all can heed this advice, we will be doing well.
@BOG: Baie wyse woorde daai….ek dink hier is n paar mense wat snags stoei met hul eie intelligensie.
Lol….Denial River…..bwahahaha
@BoishaaiPa: Reading what you have to to say, gives me confidence in myself. Not sure if some here are just pretending or acting stupid, but they sure as hell are convincing@AbsolutMenlo: What exactly is my attitude? Is acknowledging the truth, an indication of “attitude”? A school with an “attitude”? With 1200 boys, I would imagine at least 1100 “attitudes”. And that applies to ALL institutions.
Onthou ! “Denial is not a river in Africa.” And unless you acknowledge a problem, you cannot address it and move forward. And that is exactly what tant SARU is doing.
@BoishaaiPa: A perfect example of ” Run at the space and not at the face ” its a shame we struggle to do that at senoir level. But yesterday was an enjoyable game to watch, we just started a bit slow.
What impressed me most of yesterdays play was the way our centers in both games took the outside gaps and played other players into space…They only took contact when needed and when they could not get a decent offload, but most of the time they looked to attack space. That was well worth watching on its own. Couple of tries emerged from these moves as well!
@odie15: Cheaper that Interschools
@BOG: …luckily Grey College and Wayed van Niekerk do not have your attitude…
@BOG: So if you have absolutely no interest in rugby , what are you doing on a rugby blog?..
@knowthegame: @Bungee: @Trots HJS (Tandem): Dit is nie vir my duidelik of julle werklik onkundig is of net voorgee om dit te wees nie, maar ek moet erken en krediet gee as dit l.g is, dan is julle baie oortuigend. Gaan lees maar gerus die artikel hierbo waarna ek verwys- verkieslik met julle OE OOP, en bo die grond. En daar is nog.
@knowthegame: Ou “Kundige”, ek is maar een van die duisende. Of is jy gemaklik met jou kop in die sand? m.sport24.co.za/sport24/Rugby/SuperRugby/super-rugby-tv-fan-viewership-plummets-20160704?isapp=true
@knowthegame: Yes this is a big blow for SA rugby ! First we loose Rassie and now Bog ! A real brain drain .
@BOG: Blykbaar het Grey 2 spelers by een of ander toernooi gehad, maar weet nie wat die res se verskoning is nie.
And du plessis. Potential s/bok. Raw pace plus the rest. Nr 4 lock for sa a also very good. Probably too small but lots of heart and guts
Moerat showed today why he os one of the bet school locks ever to play for sa schools. Willemse and pretorius from grey very good. Scrumhalve(s) the weak point
Well done to those two teams. Great games. I thought the SA A side played bloody well as that English team is mean. I overheard the commentator mention during the Welsh game that Ian Botham Grandson was playing. Was that correct? As that’s quite Lekker as his son played for Bath.
@Boishaai Old Boy: for you R25…..Hehehe
@BOG: sjoe wat n sad dag vir rugby,rugby beslis armer sonder jou
Now that is what I call a starting line up. Now you can fill the gaps.
SA A 46 – 7 England….55 min. Eina!
22-7 Jammer manne, halftime score
22-0 na 35 min
@Speartackle: I heard, and only by the grapevine, that FS actually won a match. I never thought that in my lifetime, that Id reach a point where I have absolutely no interest in rugby. Sad, but unfortunately true.
Try Janco van Heynengen, after good interaction between flyhalf and fullback……7-0 after 7 mins……
Manne lyk goed, hoop ons kan voortbou op dit
Game time. Good luck to our two teams.
@Quagga die Wolf: Dankie ou Wolf
@Speartackle: Hannes Nienaber se School of Rugby op FB het gister die spanlyste geplaas.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154304355882347&id=36950597346
@BOG: Do you know if there is any decent schoolboy rugby on this week?
I missed a lot of Currie Cup rugby the last 2 weeks…..do you know who won between WP vs Bulls and OFS vs Bulls and the scores?
@Quagga die Wolf: Waar het jy die spanne gesien vir vandag? Wie is die SA A se slotpaar?
Looking forward to the matches today. Hope that SA A can turn their fortunes around. I was a bit surprised that PJ Botha is playing off the bench today for SA Schools as I thought he had a strong game up front in the last game where we seemed to lack a bit physicality in the first outing, but every player needs some quality game time. Happy that Ras and Muller Du Plessis get a start. Hope to see JC and Mark Snyman get a run as well today in their respective matches – haven’t seen the best of them yet. Francke Horn expected to make a massive contribution today.
Morning guys, just want to know if anyone knows how much the tickets for saturdays games are at HJS fields? If any? Have cousins down from JHB who want to watch.
@BOG: Don’t worry I know what you meant. Please never ask me to string a sentence in Afrikaans. My Afrikaans is dreadful
@Bush: Apologies. Crime “their”, should be “there”. I did pass English, but in the Free State. We just had to count 1-10
@BOG: Spear can handle himself well,bronchitis was even scared of him. He carries nunchucks in his socks
@GreenBlooded: No, you are right, unless they have crossed with a crab. But what is known in America, does have something like a claw- thats my point.@Bush: You need to help the poor man to adjust to life on the coast, otherwise he is going to run into a lot of trouble. Crime their is different to the crime in Krugersdorp.
@BOG: I’m going to have to speak to Spear nicely. Greenman just gave me the middle finger. Come to think of it BOG, Spear was organising all kinds of stuff for himself on the golf course. He even arranged a few left handed cigarettes for one of our players. The oke was extremely highly strung, Spear calmed him down.
@McCulleys Workshop: Whahahahahaha I nearly rolled my Bantam.
@Speartackle: Spear, you don’t think you could have got crabs?
@GreenBlooded: They had claws, thorns, whimpers everything…..cut the inside of my mouth badly chowing it
@BOG:
Having plundered the east coast of many decent specimen in my youth (when I was still lean and fit enough to swim and breath-hold), I can tell you that the East Coast crayfish (or rock-lobster) does not have claws. So if ou Spear was chowing lobster with claws then they must have mutated somehow after long periods in those long drops………
@Speartackle:
@Greenman: @BOG: Bring me any ball and I’ll sign it….just not a Helpmekaar ball
@Speartackle: There is actually a difference between a lobster and a crayfish, as I understand it. Im no marine biologist, but the real “American lobster” only has one large claw. I have had some monster crayfish in Pemba, Mozambique and some on the West coast, and I have to admit, the colder the water, the nicer the flesh. Your crayfish on the west coast has a dark brown colour and the flesh very firm. In the Transkei, they are still “OK-ish”, but from KZN upwards, there is a definate decline in taste. Those Pemba monsters are light green in colour.@Bush: You want to steal a ball, or anything else, Spear is your go-to man. You did not think that golf was his area of expertise, did you?
@Bush: Yes I am following and no cant organize a match ball. Have to try to steal one myself. Spear reckon you good with money so buy another one
@Greenman: Now there’s a comment I can’t respond too. Have you been following the SA A team? If you have, how has the atmosphere been? Can’t you organize me a SA School match ball. I tried to steal a CW ball only to upset people in the stands. Ended up buying one, flip it cost me a small package.
@Bush: You can take the man out of the Bush but you cant take the Bush out of the man!
@Greenman: Huh??????
@Bush: shame, no comment. RIP.
@Speartackle: From the last result any one could be star for the SA A next game. GW missed him on Saturday. Hopefully he gets to start this time.
@Bush: You should watch the SA Schools game tomorrow…….JJ vd Mescht was a star when he came on last game
@Speartackle: All the heavy rains knocked down plenty long drops, made it easy work to collect those boytjies. It was like Grey picking up points against GW.
@BoishaaiPa: Looked more like a giant kokkerot to me
@Speartackle: It wasn’t lobster..It was genetically enhanced King Prawns…
@BOG: I didn’t even know you can get Lobsters here, thought it was only a Cape specie. I wonder where Bush got them from now that I start running to the toilet
@Speartackle: They say, “its the lekkerrrrrr sous”. In this case the “sous” came from an outside source.
I struggled my arse off to cut those lobsters…jeepers my hands and fingers badly cut and full of the legs and whimpers and some sharp other parts even my lips and chin got cut while trying to eat that nice white meat. I also still smell like an aquarium but it was lekker hey.
@BOG:
I’m just surprised that Glenwood partake in activities like debating at all – what with being a specialist rugby academy and all………..
And on the crayfish in the long-drop thing: I can forgive ou Spear for thinking that is just a wind-up and not a well known fact, but ou Bushy should know better being somewhat of a South Coast local……….
@BOG: I was going to tell Spear after he chowed them. Didn’t want to spoil his lunch?????
@GreenBlooded: Depends on the subject matter. I hear that they had to talk about ladies fashions?@Speartackle: Where is “here” ?? Careful for those crayfish. I hear that they keep it “fresh” by hanging it in a long drop toilet
Having a lekker beach braai here…crayfish from Bush….much appreciated….beer from Tops and wine in a plastic…..just mention you know Bush here
@Bush:
My mate is the city councillor down there. I must tell him to keep a sharp eye on you okes.
@Bush:
Given the infinitesimally small number of schoolboy rugby players that go on to make a living from rugby, I think debating skills are probably more important. So if Glenwood won the debating – good on them I say! 8)
@BOG: I think he may have found the Pistols Saloon.
@BOG: He’s become the new sheriff of Toti. So he’s probably fighting crime somewhere.
@Bush: Could be. What has happened to your new found golfing partner? Just hope he is not lying in Backline in Margate?
@Grasshopper: Well if thats the case, then congratulations would be in order. It is still the upset of the decade. GCB is the national champion and to beat them 8-1, is quite something.
@BOG: http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/glenwood-vs-grey-college-tennis-report-2016-0
@BOG: Morning BOG, they did win the tennis not sure of the result. The GW tennis side is phenomenal. Maybe Grey played with High Altitude balls?????
@Grasshopper: I like giving credit where it is due, but Id be very surprized if GW first tennis team beat GCB s firsts 8-1, because they are SA champs. I cannot recall that they have lost a match this year and Im talking nationally. And by such a margin. Half of the SA school side are from GCB. Their U15s have just won yet another national title in Pretoria.If so, it must be the upset of the decade. Too early to see their results on Grey s FB. Im sure they dominated the surfing, though.
@boerboel: agreed and the same all the other English schools vs Grey, College, Selborne & Grey PE all faired as badly if not worse. Tennis won 8-1, Hockey 2-1….
Good to see sense prevail and greys c/d teams play gw’s bsides
@boerboel: The GW 2nd vs Grey 4th team was the game of the day. 26-26.
That is no surprise. Gw obviously missed jj
@boerboel: They also won the debating????.
@Grasshopper: so the mighty green machine only won one game against grey? At home sealevel with maruis jonker. Maybe they should rather focus on an other sport. Rugby obviously not their thing
@Kattes-Strofes: I think many bloggers would agree that Francke deserves to be there and should probably have been there from the start…top player. Really happy about Ruan Vermaak’s including too. It is obviously very bad luck to be injured in the 1st match of a series.
Understand France Horn and Ruan Vermaak will join SA A team due to injuries.
SA Schools A flanker Mark Snyman suffered a knee injury early in the game and is on crutches for a day or two but will apparently be ready for their next match. Hope he recovers completely and plays at #6 as they really need better play to the ball.
@Grasshopper: 39-10, a brilliant result, considering the “low” altitude, the blue cloud over Durban, and the large number of absentees. They really stuck up their hands, when they donned that jumper. Viva le Grey !
@Kattes-Strofes: huge upsets today Bishops actually thumping SACS…..Ploegies boys beating PRG! And shame Primrose getting punished for that missing point of GIM last week….
Ploegie……look at that score congrats!
@Grasshopper: please stop with the altitude story….they beat them cos they were better end of…..
Goodluck to Francke but the train would have been better off with him leading the way…..
2nds 26 all draw! Grey score in last few minutes to draw! If that was played in Bloem I reckon it would have been 30 points plus to Grey…
@BOG: Under16A go down 21-32, well played Grey!
@BOG: Yes, very happy. They lost a very close game to Monnas at Monnas so this makes amends. The other results were expected, actually better than I thought. Shows playing at home and at SEA LEVEL helps.
Fresh news from the SA Schools teams. Two players of the Sa “A” team have unfortunately been ruled out by injury after the 1st. days play. I t is very sad for Jessie Johnson, the loosie from Paul Roos, and Jaco van Tonder, the lock of Grey Bloem. They have now been replaced by Francke Horn , the Boishaai loosie and Ruan Vermaak, the Monnas lock.
Both these young men fully deserve their caps, as they were 2 of the stand-out performers through-out the season.
I know of a certain rugby agency that is very chuffed with their inclusion, as they now have 20 players in the 2 teams.
@Grasshopper: Sure, you would be pleased with your U 14 s: GCB U14 A 26- 29 GW;
U15 A 35-12 GW;
4 th 21-0 GW;
3rd 47- 8 GW
@McCulleys Workshop: yes it’s me, not! As an example, JJ came on and made a huge difference from what I heard.
@Hooit: Why should I be impressed if no one else seems to be? But I concur with Greenman. I have said so several years ago, and with every passing day, its becoming more likely.
@Greenman: The lineouts didn’t improve when they replaced Richardson, go figure!
@Greenman: To answer your question about who creates these inflated reputations : Generally it’s Hopper
@GreenBlooded: I raised my concern earlier about the choice of Richardson as hooker for the Sharks as he is not a hooker and it showed at CW. Then they pick him as hooker for the SA A team. Don’t get me wrong he is a great player but at flank not hooker. Picking players out of position at that level is crazy. I wonder who creates these inflated reputations?
Also, the quota system is going to cost us dearly. Very evident in the first half of SA A game. Unfortunately the other countries don’t care and pick on merit. RIP SA Rugby.
@Greenman:
SA A for sure. Pitiful performance all round.
@BrotherBear: are you referring to the A team or Bokkies?
@BrotherBear: Sre you referring to the A team or Bokkies?
What the hell happened in the SA A lineouts? Jumpers (can)not jumping and hooker cannot find jumpers? Physically they overpowered us. Major issue in scrums as well. No flyhalf that could play strategic? Green tried to play too flat. Firstline no 1, 8 and 10 extremely poor.
My big word for the day. Even BOG should be impressed.
Selectors must also know the difference between a good individual player and an individualistic player.
Too many players playing on previous year’s name and new one’s on an inflated reputation.
Kan ons maar volgende keer met bench begin.
Die Engelse en Franse is regtig groot spelers. Hier kom n moeilike reeks.
Not a great start by SA A. Italy all over us like a bad rash.
@Quagga die Wolf: Didn’t Helpmekaar declare today a public holiday or was it after they beat Monnas? Goodluck to all the players and special good luck to the Lions players and extra special luck to one’s I know personally. PJ, Nathan, Toelie and Mark.
Tick-tock. Almost time. France looking good for their first half lead of 23-8 over the English team. SA A must be nursing the butterflies in the changerooms already. Big big moment for these boys.
@Hooit: Awesome tx. All the best to every player. Make us proud and have a cracker of a game!
Dankie julle almal. Ek neem kennis !
@Ooorkant Loftus: Lol, it’s a home game for the players!
@Ooorkant Loftus: Seker maar sodat die meeste seuns se ouers hulle ook kan sien!..
@Quagga die Wolf: And a good day to you.
@Quagga die Wolf: Yes. All 3 games. Tuesday also already on TV schedule.
Good day to everyone, and to @BrotherBear: and @Hooit:
Any idea if the U19 International Series will be broadcasted live on Friday?
@Ooorkant Loftus: Julle seisoen het al geeindig.
What is the reasons for these games being played in the Western Cape almost every time ?
Because SA Rugby HQ down in Western Cape?
I would think that other provinces this time of the year will also be as successful and popular as the Western Cape with staging these tournos.
Might be not ideal for Jurie & company, but hey you can stage this rugby at other cities / provinces as well.
Baie dankie @beet vir die uitgebreide tabel
@BoishaaiPa: Wat die skrums betref: dis moeilik vir n haker om goed te skrum as die stutte van die ander span baie sterker is (beide het wp gespeel en nou SA Skole ook). Die dae van die tradisionele haker is getel, daar word van hulle verwag om meer te bied. (Bv. Adriaan Strauss steel baie balle op die grond en Schalk Brits hardloop goed) Jooste het duidelik by die Craven Week gesukkel op die grond en lyk nie asof hy n lekker houvas het op wat die reels behels nie. PS. As spelers op sogenaamde “tradisionele” attributes gekies word, kan Khanya nie op 8 gekies word nie. Tradisionele 8ste manne staan nie op die wing nie. Maar rugby is n sport wat konstant besig is om te verander en danksy dit word Khanya nou gesien as een van die beste skole 8s in die land. So al wat ek probeer se is dit vir my bied Steinmann die beter moderne pakket. Maar ek verstaan, opinies verskil en sommige mense verkies weer n meer tradisionele haker in hulle span.
@Bungee: As haker is een van jou primere take om jou springers te vind…hy het 2 lynstane gemis..een in elke helfte,,BH haker het nie eenkeer sy springers gemis nie…in die skrums het BH ook oorhand gehad…so behalwe daai twee primere takies kon ek nog steeds nie sien hoe hy beter gespeel het nie. Elkeen kyk seker maar die game deur sy eie bril!..
@beet, op n ander noot sal dit nogal interessant wees om te weet hoeveel van die ouens wat die 2 sa skole spanne gemaak het, het wel ook hulle provinsies se Grant Khomo spanne gemaak op 0/16 vlak. Soort gelyk met die Craven week spanne vergelyk met die Khomo spanne.
@BoishaaiPa: Skuus, @BoishighPa, domineer was die verkeerde term. Hy was egter een van 2 spelers (Dixon die ander) wat beter gespeel het as hulle Boishigh teenstander in daardie wedstryd.
@Bungee: Definieer domineer asb?..Miskien het ek n ander wedstryd gekyk.
@odie15: yeah as disappointed as SACS must be that he did not make SAS their has to be some degree of appreciation that he will still be available for the Southern Suburb 3rd term derby season.
@beet: larkan had awesome game. Although he had to play too much, cant play against a team and 1 player trying to beat a team. It had him being quiet in final 20 min. But an awesome talent.
@Bungee: Yeah school rugby is just one stage in the process for those who eventually make it to become household names through their achievements at senior rugby level. I think it was against Grey High that Steinmann had a standout match. I’ve seen him a few times in other matches. He looks like a good player. There are many pros related to playing SBR in the strong Western Cape region but amongst the cons is the abundance of compo. Yesterday Liam Larken again produced a display worthy of an SAS call up and Jooste has been a solid reliable player all season long. There are probably many other cases of good players in the Cape missing out on big stage recognition. Personally for me Zac Burger of Gim has been the best no. 9 in the country (aside from Papier who is u19) and he missed out on CW when I thought he’d be a shoo-in for SAS. Again hard to fault the selections – Carstens of BL is a quality player and Lucky Dlepu’s performance for SACS vs HJS yesterday reiterated that he deserves to play alongside top SBR players in SA.
But like I say the journey to the top for those SBR players who want to pursue rugby as a career is far from complete. Lots of hard work ahead and for some the luck that may have deserted them at this level could well come around and give them the sort of big break they dream of at the next level.
Voel nogals vir Daneel Steinmann. Hy het ongelooflik goed gespeel in Paul Roos se uitgesaaide westryde en het vir Jooste gedomineer in hulle wedstryd teen mekaar. Toe mis hy een proewe agv siekte en val heeltemal uit die keuring sisteem uit.
@Queenian: Hahahahaha! You’ve got to be joking!
@Playa: Good question besides the shocking weather and rain which did even things out its the 1st time in the 39 years they have played that Woodridge have beaten Muir. The Muir boys were far to confident.
What made it even worse was Under 14A/Under 16A and 1st Team lost only my sons age group won and 2nds and 3rds.
Although what was a bit of a shocker was when my son and them were about to run on to the field was the Woodridge Under 15A coach carmly came over and said I hope you folks don’t mind but I am fielding 5 Under 16 boys which is crazy, but anyway we still won.
@4×4: I think so too. Let’s watch him next year among his peers.
@Kattes-Strofes: Dankie oom ek sê hom.
@Quagga: Mark Snyman is in a class of his own. Since his Grade 8 year you could see that he will turn out as something special.
@rugbyfan: @rugbyfan:
What’s going on in Tinarha??? Next door neighbours stealing from each other now. That is unbelievable!
Queenian – how did Muir lose to Woodridge? That result shocked me as much as Jeppe going down to Parktown. Then again this goes to show that form has no bearing on a derby.
@bloedwors: Brendel, Uys & Horne has been the best loosies in my opinion in the WC this year and would have been my combo for CW. I am of the opinion all three will make the step-up to the next level
@Bloedwors
Al 2 baie goeie spelers.Uys jou tipiese basher met bal in die hand en wat voordeellyn met gemak oorsteek.Horne is egter n Morne du Plessis.Slim,met sagte handte ,goeie visie ,lees wedstryd briljant ,uitstekende kaptein en hardloop in spasie in.Horne my keuse .Dis maar my persoonlike opinie.
@Quagga: Klein wereld inderdaad ! Vroeer vanjaar toe Boishaai teen Outeniqua gespeel het in George, moes ek verslag toe vir die Argus. Op kort kennisgewing het iets voorgeval by die huis en ek kon nie meer gaan nie . Ek tref toe reelings met n paar rugby manne om te help met die verslag.
Die wedstryd het baie spannend verloop en Boishaai het in die laaste beweging n drie gedruk om gelykop te speel. Gianni Lombard het egter die doelskop teenaan die kantlyn suiwer deur die pale gejaag vir n naelbyt sege van 29 -27. Ek het by die huis so nou en dan n sms gekry van die telling. Nietemin, na die wedstryd probeer ek my kontakte in die hande kry vir die verslag. Maar nope ! G’n mens antwoord hul selfoon nie. Nadat ek begin benoud raak het, met saktyd van die koerant wat nader kom, bel ek maar een van die Boishaai seuns se ma wat baie betrokke is by die span.. Sy probeer toe oral by almal van beide skole om die nodige inligting te kry vir my om n gebalanseerde berig te kan skryf. Dit was blykbaar vir haar n helse storie , totdat iemand vir haar gese het om met Andre te praat. Om n lang storie kort te maak, toe ek vir Andre op die lyn kry was dit sommer tjoef! tjaf! , en ek het n volledige berig ! Weer eens n bewys dat jy nie sommer ervaring agter elke bos kan optel nie.
Ploegskaar, who do you think is the better prospect, Horne or Uys?
@Kattes-Strofes: Nou die einste André Stander van George is my skoonpa. Klein wereld
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: if you hurry and leave that coffee date with bloedwors…..the Chiefs are playing today. So you can watch young Boeta Chamberlain on his road back!
@Kattes-Strofes: Kattes, ek is so bly jy doen verslag vir die Engelse koerante ook…..persoonlik, baie beter leesstof.
@Quagga: Jip! Hy is ook n “free lance” soos ek. Hy doen al ook vir donkie jare verslag oor die SWD en OP se rugby Het hom egter nog nooit persoonlik ontmoet nie. Het egter al met hom oor foon gesels. Hy en ek het ook baie lank verslag gedoen vir Rapport. Nou dink ek hy werk net vir Die Burger. Ek doen darem nog werk vir Die Burger en The Argus hier in die Kaap. WP en Boland se klub rugby en krieket vir Die Burger en Argus en ook skole rugby net vir Argus, aangesien Sarel Burger ook lankal die skole Rugby hier vir Die Burger doen). Sarel was toevallig my Afrikaanse onnie en Sewes afrigter by Hoerskool JJ Du Preez , wat nie meer bestaan nie.
@tzavosky: Dit is bitter sad ja
@Speartackle: Ek en RG se oupa het mekaar raakgekuier by die 2013 CW in Polokwane en ‘n ooreenkoms aangegaan dat die dag wanneer (nie “as” nie!) RG in SA vir die Bokke uitdraf, ons saam op die pawiljoen sal sit.
Toe kry die ou verlede jaar ‘n beroerte en eindig in ‘n tehuis in Pretoria. Ek het hom gaan besoek daar. Hy het net die gebruik van sy regterhand oor, waarmee hy die TV se remote werk.
Amper gehuil toe ek die dag daar uitstap.
@Speartackle: I would have loved the Gim v Oakdale game…..
@Quagga: RG was in die laerskool so 2 jaar voor my kind in Generaal Schoeman op Hartebeestpoortdam, dink tot graad 6. RG was daai dae n beter krieketspeler, n moerse snelbouler
@Speartackle:
ja ek ook…..terloops, Snyman se neef is die Bul slot RG Snyman.
@Quagga: Lol….ek het gejoke oor die grootte en ek het gehoor die pa is n reus en kan hard moer…..so ja ek dink nog so 8cm en bietjie bulk en Snyman gaan ons eie Pocock word. Ek is nou moeg vir ou Flo en Kolisi en Schalk Burger tipe spelers.
Die volk soek n opregte fetcher
@Kattes-Strofes: Oom Kattes, van die os op die jas, ken oom dalk die sport(rugby) skrywer Andre Stander vanuit George se wereld?
@Speartackle: @BoishaaiPa: @BrotherBear: Regarding Helpies #6 both the Bear and the Spear are correct. Mark Snyman is a boy who was described by Hannes Nienaber after the St. John’s Festival (after his 14 turnovers against Monnas (please note Hooit
) to be in a class of his own. Boishaai are the standard, but Snyman and his mates made them sweat out a narrow victory in the previous game you will recall. So Mark Snyman is THAT #6. Agree he was excellent against the Bulls but perhaps the game plan did not suit his individual attributes in the CW, but he will adapt like they all have to when they become more senior. In terms of his size I am with BrotherBear in that it may be a trade off between size vs. speed. This guy has wheels in that he has competed in sprints at nationals, and amazing upper body strength. His best attribute IMO is the rare talent of reading the game, he is superb in that respect.
He was the only U16 player last year to be invited to the U18 green squad (let that sink in for a while). Very talented and a pleasure to watch.
His dad just had a laugh about the Oosrand look as he is indeed from there
Onto size. What is too small for a #6? Interestingly most SuperRugby 6’s (6 in our SA context of the number) are between 1.80m and 1.86m generally. Snyman is 1.81m already and growing. Re his family, they are large people yes, dad is 6’6 and brother maybe about 6’3.
I am not saying Snyman will be a Bok, or a Super player, merely saying he is a very talented youngster that I would call a game breaker, and an absolute pleasure to watch with ball in hand and at rucking time.
@knowthegame: Dit is koedoe wereld daardie korrek…..ongelooflike mooi landskap….
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: daai tyd van die jaar wei bokke al 50km per uur.Wat skiet julle in Langkloof? Koedoes?
@Speartackle: Bietjie ver se ry vir ons Kapenaars, onthou vir ons stop SA eintlik al hier by die berge net anderkant die Paarl
@McCulleys Workshop: Yes cause it is on the 1st floor
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Nee man jy moet by Alldays of Thabazimbi gaan jag…daai Philippolis bokke maak taai biltong
September gaan ek bietjie daar naby Philippolis lood in die lug sit! Kyk of ons n paar wildebeeste en bokke kan plattrek!
@Speartackle: Werk meestal vanaf die Kaap en George….Langkloof was n jag trippie
Onrus is my ouers se aftree plekkie 
@Speartackle: The Wonder Bra withstood the storm and is still standing.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Ou sakkie, dan is jy in Langkloof, dan in Riversdale, dan Onrus en nou in George.
Wat rep jy?
n lieflike wintersmiddag in George…
@Toffee: Schools are closed here today because of last night’s floods. Roads washed away and everything in shambles….just like Sharks rugby
I saw his Paarl Jersey and assumed he lived in Paarl. I live in Rondebosch and it is bucketing down at the moment. Some pleasant Cape weather.
@Toffee: Why, do you also stay in Toti?
@Speartackle: I would have to swim there today
@Toffee: Thanks Toffee, Kattes has invited you for a braai tonight
@Kattes-Strofes: Solank daai Ploeg net nie n sê het in die samestelling nie want dan sal WP skole nie naastenby so presteer
@Speartackle: Lekker Spiesie , lekker, man!! Gaan sommer vanaand n vuurtjie aansteek al is dit Dinsdag, om fees te vier ,en die koue pak te gee.!
@knowthegame: Net vir duidelikheid! Ek was by die WP O/20 span vir 3 jaar. betrokke in die amateur dae. Daarna jaarliks by senior rugby, tot verlede jaar. Nadat die spel profesioneel geraak het in 1996 , het hulle weggedoen met keurders vir die Super spanne. Sa Rugby het egter nog n amateur provinsiale kompetisie begin vir nie- gekontrakteerde spelers (m.a.w. klub spelers) en ek en ander keurders het toe daar ingeval. Toevallig het manne soos die voormalige Bok coach Pieter de Villiers asook die voormalige Bok asst. coach Alan Solomons by hierdie spanne hul buiging gemaak in groot rugby. Ek was destyds sameroeper en span bestuurder. Maar die skole het nog altyd op hul eie ge- funksioneer. Ek sien egter dat Ploegie gemeld het dat die profesionele kant van WP nou meer betrokke raak by die finale samestelling van die skole spanne.
@Speartackle: Nick Koster is playing for Bristol Rugby in England, they have just been promoted to the Premier League. He has two fellow WP Ikeys loosies playing with him, Rayn Smid and Nick Fenton-Wells. We will probably see more of them now that the club has been promoted.
@Kattes-Strofes: nee mater jy verloor my.As jy keurder is,is dit juis jou job om die paneel te beinvloed om die beste speler volgens jou te kies.So jy was die keurder wat net ja gese het vir nog n Matie in die WP span?Ja ek dink dit onvan pas om paneel te beinvloed indien jy nie n keurder is nie,maar dit gebeur nog steeds,soos in engels,dit is “rife”
Terwyl ons nou redeneer oor wie volgende jaar in die CW en SA Skolespan gaan wees.
Watter spelers wat op skolevlak uitgewys is as toekomstige Bokke, het dit nie gemaak nie ? Nie noodwendig huidige spelers nie. Kan baie interessant wees.
@Speartackle: I have never been into the gym scene and the only enhancers I may consider has a strong Scottish origin. Will keep you guessing and wondering though. Thanks for the interest. Hehehe
Middag weet iemand iets van die VKB week wat in Reitz gehoor is, hoe word die spanne saam gestel.
@Kattes-Strofes: Kom Kattes, hou op stront praat. Jou seun wag al op die lughawe.
@Kattes-Strofes: Sorry , meant that I had no influence on the selection of the WP school sides. Most of the time, I did not even know who the selectors are.
Just to clarify the question about the influence that we as bloggers have on the selection of players for representative sides. I do not think our opinions have any impact on the various selection panels. Contrary to what some bloggers may think, I have never, ever had influence in the selection of the WP sides, although I was part of their selection panels at senior, and earlier, at u/20 level. I have noticed through the years that the schools administration will defend their turf, with all their powers, and do not tolerate outsiders.
@Speartackle: SA Skole spanne is maar n klein kloppie op die skouer. Dis lekker om erken te word, maar ongelukkig is daar net plek vir soveel. Vir party outjies is dit die einde van die pad uit eie keuse en is ander loopbaan belangriker en vir ander is dit dalk die begin van nuwe hoogtes of baie frustrasies. Dis maar eintlik soos graadvang. Daai papier in die sak gaan nie bepaal of jy n sukses van jou loopbaan maak nie…net jou eie wil en werks etiek en bietjie geluk gaan dit bepaal!
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Sal my niggie vir jou reel….sy hou van Sakkie de Kocks
@Speartackle: Staatsgeheim….jammer
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Asb ou Sakkie, vertel ons dan
@BoishaaiPa: Not even Shakira blows my mind so this better be good or else I won’t talk Francke into the SA Schools team
@BoishaaiPa: I know about this great idea too….mind blowing.
@Speartackle: But don’t worry..We are working om something that will even blow your mind!..I have buy-in from a couple of coaches I have spoken too, nothing official yet, but they are keen on the idea.
@Hooit: It was fixed as I recall..Might be up for renewal soon and hopefully we can expand.
@Speartackle: We do, however as I mentioned ..most schools have sold their games long ago on long term contracts and your Cup competition broadcast rights belongs to someone else. Get on their case to showcase it.
@BoishaaiPa: I was just making or creating conversation.
@BoishaaiPa: For Pete’s sake then…..make good use of those 12 games
@BoishaaiPa: Interesting reading. With the increasing viewership numbers you should be getting more games per year or are the 12 fixed for a few years?
@Hooit: He is not in direct competition with Francke then…our boy is actually a No 8. He did play lock u/15, but is a classic No 8. We will see how he develops, but I agree with Kattes that he is a great prospect. I have yet to see him play a bad game..ever.
@BrotherBear: How would you describe yourself? Bulky or slow….or both?
@Speartackle:Actually it is even more complicated than that. It all depends on who the sponsors are and who owns the TV rights to the match..Why do you think that we broadcast some games between schools in certain years and not in another..because the home school owns the rights and the sell them…Some schools have prostituted themselves with some games for 10 or more years into a contract..and now their games dont get televised because the owner of the contract cant afford to broadcast or dont have the timeslot available….Most of these games belong to our opposition..ask them to show their Clash on TV!..We got our hands on what we could at the time and was offered only 12 games showtime.
Interesting also to look at the weight to length ratio of the players. Some may be heavier set than others and others early developers, but when you analyse by position, it is quite clear who may have already started with the use of “enhancers”. May help them now, but soon will limit their “use” as they become too bulky and slow.
@BoishaaiPa: Actually 7 flank at Monnas. He says when he saw Muller chasing he started to look for support. I think he made the right call but agree can do with more speed.
@BoishaaiPa: Moet Faf ook gaan slot speel na die stut hom ingehardloop het na sy onderskep?
@Hooit: Bwahahahaha
@Hooit: Soms is die ma baie fyn gebou en dan groei die seuns nie so groot soos die pa…..ek dink veral in Ian Mac se geval
@Kattes-Strofes: maar stick dan by wat gewerk het vir 42 jaar.
@Hooit: Needs a little more speed then if he wants to compete at 8…He had a clean intercept and could not make it to the tryline!..Maybe a future lock?
@boerboel: Jy dink aan Vernon Koekemoer.
@boerboel: Ja maar geen mullet of tattoos
@Speartackle: Juistemint ! Spiesie! Hy was maar net een van talle oor die jare. Ek wou soms kots oor hulle arrogansie! Soos ek vroeer gese het. Ek is nou na my eie skool jare as speler , elke naweek by rugby betrokke vir 42 jaar. Ek het nog nooit in die openbaar gemeld dat ek dink n speler gaan Bok word nie, al het ek so gedink. So my stelling oor Francke is beslis n eerste.
@Speartackle: Oosrand look?-hare geperoxide/jean kniebroek?
@Speartackle: His father is big. I agree with the gameplan. Each lock and flank had to stay on their side of the field. It works in an open game but not a tight game.
@BoishaaiPa: Ja more of a donkey. Loves rucks. Got a few cleans on Moerat.
@BoishaaiPa: Die Leeus het n swak game plan gehad teen die WP, nie dat dit iets sou verander maar waar in jou lewe het jy gehoor die beste fetcher in SA Skolerugby moet die losskrums vermy en eerder in die agterlyn rondhang. No Mr Spilhaus, that was a terrible tactic.
@BoishaaiPa: yip
@knowthegame: Is hy nie bietjie klein nie? Dink ek het sy pa al gesien….Oosrand look
@BoishaaiPa: He played in the 19 jersey but started the game against the Bulls and the final. 70 minutes both. Was out of position. Yes he intercepted.
@Hooit: Dont know the players that well..he had a good game against Bulls I recall, but was a bit quieter in the final as I did not notice that much of him. Probably got caught up at the bottom were all the dirty work is done.
@BoishaaiPa: I won’t go for those excuses. They are lame. Surely you can see 2 years ahead and have a good indication of which match ups will be better. You really want to tell me that more people would have watched Affies vs Maritzburg than Paarl Gim vs Oakdale or even Garsies/Helpmekaar???????
Die publiek soek bloed
@BoishaaiPa: Yes he did. Mark Snyman. SA A side
@Hooit: Was he the reserve that came on during CW final?..The one that got the intercept that led to Lions 2nd try?
@BoishaaiPa: Jy is reg. Verkeerde reply geclick. Truie lyk dieselfde.
@knowthegame: Sy Pa is baie groot. Sien hom as n slot in sy dae.
@knowthegame: Did he play in the final of CW?..
@Speartackle: Yes, hindsight is usually 20/20 vision. When we came knocking a few years ago some of those schools and that competition wanted nothing to do with us…We got a few individual schools to support the project and they are benefiting from that commitment now. Anyway, we wont make any TV revenue from a few noordvaal viewers who are interested in a cup competition where you loose but can still go through and confuse everyone and eventually two teams pop up to play a final. The TV viewership doesn’t lie and we get bigger numbers than most Super games and by far more than CC or any other rugby comp. We plan way ahead and only get certain amount of games per season. Your comp is sold to someone else..ask them to broadcast it!
@Speartackle: wat dink jy van Helpies no 6?Hy is baie goed-hy was n freak in ouderdoms groepe maar hy sal moet groei.Ek wonder of sy familie “groot mense ” is?
@Hooit: Ek dink jy verwar my met Kattes…Hy is die groot Francke punter!…Ek hou ook van hom en hoop hy doen goed.
@Kattes-Strofes: Wat het van Nick Koster geword? Ek onthou hoe hulle hom opgehemel het as die volgende Zinzan Brooke
@Kattes-Strofes: Lol…dit is…ek back ook vir v Niekerk van Monnas
@Kattes-Strofes: Moet darem byvoeg! Ek is nie soos die 4 Kaapse skole se ondersteuners en koerantmanne wat sommer wegloop met n speler se vermoens nie, as hy net ordentlike rugby speel nie. Het oor die jare al gesien hoe die Southern suberbs manne totaal oorhoops gaan as hulle vir n slag n redelike talentvolle klong het!
@Speartackle: Toe nou, Spiesie !! Hou jou plat, ou maat! Die is mos nie jou fight nie , of hoe ? Hê-Hê !!
@BoishaaiPa: I think we must get you and Hopper debating who is the best future prospect. Francke Horn or JJ.. Should keep you both busy untill they reach age 21. My money is on Van Niekerk in Monnas.?
@BoishaaiPa: He should have been switched to hooker at school already….I keep a few people responsible for not listening back then
@BoishaaiPa: So by the way while I’ve got you around the throat……in future please plan better when you televise schoolboy rugby games….there are some clued up people on here who can tell you which games to televise a year in advance.
@Speartackle: The CC Bulls?..
@BoishaaiPa: He lead the Bulls the other day….
@Speartackle: I recall you making some very elaborate predictions in your day as well ou Spiesie…Still waiting for that 8thman to come though..varsity cup doesn’t count!
I really like the way you “experts” punt guys to become future boks at the age of 17…..on the other hand….I have also seen hundreds of schoolboy prodigies with great futures behind them.
Guys ! I do respect your opinions, really!! You are at this stage probably “gatvol ” of me punting Francke Horn. I have seen most of the mentioned boys in action this season, and yes! they are all very good players. However! I stand by what I said. Horn will become Bok, if he stays injury free and is properly managed! I have never, ever punted a schoolboy like this, but feel sure that he is a safe bet!
@BrotherBear: He was selected at #2 altough I have seen him over the years and am convinced #8 is his best position and at #8 he has few equals at that age group level. Whichever position they play him, he will be a standout with ball in hand. I think he has a great future ahead of him.
@Quagga: Yes, the reference should have been for 7 and 8. Darn smile keeps interfering. Interesting that all these boys have played in both positions and proved their mettle. I liked Richardson’s physicality, but what is he going to do going forward – no 2 or??
@BrotherBear: Exciting list you have there at #71. The competition will be eye candy to the neutral. I see PJ Jacobs and Travis Gordon as better #8’s in my opinion though. Jacobs and Van Niekerk were excellent for the Golden Lions and Liam van der Berg was a powerhouse before his untimely injury against WP AW.
@BrotherBear: well can I add my 2c then. Yes I have spoken about Francke quite a bit. I would like to say he’s going to Captain WP and then add SA schools captaincy to that as well. There’s only 1 reason he wasnt in CW team this year. But next year his time and effort will be used totally by everyone. The boy is playing out of position and excelling. But ask a guy like ploegie what he thinks……mine is selfish opinion and I will have to live with it. Life after school noone knows the show is too small for everyone to make it. But in the school realm he is amazing.
@Hooit: Richardson from Kearsney might put a spanner in that works. O’Neil from Glenwood too…
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: On current form the Lions and WP Cravenweek sides should have the best loose forwards combinations next year. If selected on merit should be the SA schools majority picks.
I know you not agree with me and it’s fine. When looking at the players selected for both sides there are players in these sides that are totally overrated.
@rugbyfan: 100% true cannot divulge any detail yet as I am personally involved but will give Beet all the info once I can.
Shocking to say the least.
@Queenian: Hey bud have not seen you for sometime.
I hear there is big trouble brewing in that small dorp Uitenhage between Muir and Daniel Pienaar around a Under15 boy being poached any truth in that.
One of those crazy things happening in our schoolboy rugby at present is SA Schools scrum half from Welkom Gim Richman Gora spent 10 days of this year in Uitenhage at Brandwag playing for there 1st team against there two Uitenhage rival Danial Pienaar and Muir.
He arrived on a Wednesday just before the Danial Pienaar game and left the next Sunday just after the Muir game. And was back at Welkom Gim the Monday morning. He did not attend 1 class during this time.
And now gets picked for SA Schools what utter “Bullxxxt”
What is becoming of our rugby really sick.
@Calamari: True, the opposition affects your play, but I stand by my statement as all of these players are in well known schools (DHS, KES, HJS, Monnas, Helpmekaar) who all play in difficult fixtures and all performed very well at the U18 youth week. Most of them have also played against each other this year.
@BrotherBear: Please rate a player against the opposition he played……Francke played…..Landbou, PRG, Grey, Affies, Oakdale…….not for the faint hearted….
@Kattes-Strofes, @odie15, @Calamari: You guys chatting as if Francke Horne will be walking straight into one of the SA School sides next year. I think you should not count your chickens before they are hatched. No doubt he is a talented youngster, but I have seen equally talented players (and maybe better) this year. Each have their own style of play and it will be interesting to watch them develop over time. U17 Players that come to mind are (can play 7 or 8) – alphabetic:
Pepsi Buthelezi (KZN) – Good runner
Travis Gordon (Lions) – good communicator and runner (injuries 2016)
Francke Horn (WP) – good runner, tackler, distributor
PJ (Pot) Jacobs (Lions) – strong runner and deadly tackler, good on ground when in vicinity
Jaco Labuschagne (BB) – very good all-rounder (ground, run, tackle, distribute)
Liam van den Berg (Lions) – very good all-rounder (ground, run. tackle, distribute)
Christen van Niekerk (Lions) – very good all rounder (ground, run. tackle, distribute)
Some of these guys may be high on the try scoring table, but others better in making others score the tries (@Hooit: donkies en saalperde eerder as skouperde).
Quite sad to see the 2016 SA school selectors preferring the no 7 and 8 players that excel in running but lack in the other areas. This came through in the selection of some no 6’s as well. Combination of 3 loosies always NB, but having good all rounders always pips the rest.
@Grasshopper: Eloff is the best loosehead in SA.
@Vyfster: Agreed, Eloff pulverized the Boishaai tight head in their game. Not sure who the tight head was. For me Eloff should be in the SA Schools side as the incumbent.
@Kattes: thanx, ja baie trots op die Vossies…..baie karakter getoon om Limpopo kampioene te word.
alles natuurlik relatief, julle het vanjaar presies 8 meer SA skole span spelers opgelewer, as ons in ons hele bestaan!
Ek het gelees van die Horn mannetjie…met baie kenners wat reken hy gaan groot rugby speel in die toekoms…..scary gedagte om te dink dat 7 uit die 8 voorspelers SA span kon gehaal het.
Soos dinge nou opshape gaan die 2016 boishaai/ gimmies wedstryd sekerlik die grootste wedstryd ooit in die geskiedenis van SA skolerugby wees…..onteenseglik die 2 beste spanne in SA vanjaar…met net 1 glips teen Garsies wat verhoed dat 2 onoorwonne spanne mekaar pak…..10 SA skole spelers in aksie ens ens
Die ironie is dat die span wat nou al 35 wedstryde in ‘n ry gewen het natuurlik glad nie gerus kan voel nie….Gimmies se uitslae lyk onrusbarend goed…..dink ons is in vir ‘n epiese wedstryd
@Kattes-Strofes: Ek wou nog byvoeg! Gister het 5 van Boishaai se 6 SA Skole voorspelers gespeel teen Rondebosch. Slegs die haker , Daniel Jooste was uit met griep.En volgens my, en n hele paar ander rugby manne, was die beste voories op die dag , Francke Horn en die instaan haker, Wilhelm Barnard. Laasgenoemde het bietjie gesukkel met sy ingooie in die lynstane, maar Rondebosch het duidelik hul huiswerk gedoen om Boishaai se tekens te ontleed. Verder het hy die veld vol ge-jol. Francke was ouder gewoonte baie effektief in al sy take.
Ek is n passievole Boishaai ondersteuner, maar is ook nie blind vir ons foute nie. Daar is heel moontlik versagtende omstandighede rondom die vertoning bv. tamheid na Cravenweek, bang vir beserings ens. Nietemin, nie n vertoning om oor te juig nie, en ek weet ook die afrigters voel presies dieselfde. Ons seuns sal nou moet besef dat die oe en fokus nou kwaai op hulle is, inagnemend die onoorwonne status en SA Skole insluitings. Daar is nou geen wegkruip plek meer nie. Ek is egter oortuig dat hulle sake vinnig sal regstel.
Dok! Ook baie geluk met jul sege oor jul bure! Welgedaan!
@Vyfster: Dok! I agree with most of what you said! However! As I mentioned in another blog, there was not a lot of tight forwards that really laid a strong claim for inclusion. The fact that WP played in the final, and won it, coupled with other exposure on tv and festivals, may also have benefited the Boishaai boys. Add to this is the fact that they are known winners, and fighters to the bitter end, which may have counted in their favour, and swayed the selectors minds. Obviously a very proud supporter. I must add that one of the 2 remaining forwards in the Boishaai pack, the naturally gifted no.8 Francke Horn, who is now playing flank , is according to a lot of Boishaai people, the forward of the year at this stage.
I do feel that the SA Schools side may struggle in the set pieces, especially against England. Sorry that the selectors did not consider Ruan Vermaak, the Monnas lock that missed Craven week due to injury.
Real interesting stats…..not only has Boishaai 8 players in SA school squad….(no wonder they have been unbeaten so long)
More incredible to me is that 6 of their 8 forwards is now SA school players….surely a record that will never be broken.
How the hell do you play against that?
It is a brilliant achievement, well done.
However you would expect that pack then to demolish everything in front of them.
Don’t get me wrong, they do have a very good pack, but the few games I saw them play on TV, I never really saw them demolish other packs.
In fact, against Affies, they struggled to achieve parity…..IMHO….still remarkable achievement though.
10 from Paarl must also be a record, but your first name must be Muller(which is actually a surname) if you’re at Paarl Gim…certain formula to make team…also it helps if you call your son PJ or JJ or JC…just some advice for prospective dads!
anyway congrats to the chosen few…well done lads .
@warriors7: because when Affies playd Jeppy you saw de Swart on the field and not Green.
Watching the Maritzburg Affies game.. how on earth did De Swardt make the main team ahead of Green!
A bit surprise that no players from Nelspruit or EG Jansen were being nominated for both teams. At least they can both focus fully on their Beeld trophy fixtures going forward.
@BoishaaiPa: correct 13 -26.
@Romano: Ek stem saam met jou oor die 3 D’S. Ek het die afgelope paar jaar gesien hoe van die talenvolste spelers hul toekoms opneuk met genoemde D’S. By die WP is die Instituut natuurlik by Stellenbosch, met al sy aanloklikhede. Maar ook elders in die land , veral waar universiteite in die nabyheid is,bly dit maar moeilik vir sommiges om te konsentreer op hul take. Baie vergeet dat dit nou n beroep is, waar jy ,soos enige normale mens, jou kant moet bring om jou pond vleis te verdien. Die lekker uithang plekke, baie pelle en n oorvloed aandag van die skoner geslag, wat graag gesien wil word saam met n provinsiale speler, is maar deel van die versoekings.
Dan is daar ook heelwat (verreweg die meeste) spelers wat nie studeer nie, en slegs rugby speel. Hulle het dan ook baie ledige ure, wat weer lei tot verveling, en saam met dit , die mee gaande versoekings.
My ervaring is dat jy net tot op n punt kan staatmaak op jou natuurlike talent. Toewyding, self dissipline en harde werk sal minder talentvolle spelers laat uitstyg bo sogenaamde sterre, wat maar laat slaple en net staatmaak op hul roem en sukses van die verlede.
Thanx oom, any info oor speler van die week dalk?
@odie15: Nope! My vriend! Manny Rass was beslis amptelik die MOM in die finaal. Ek het foto van hom en Oregan Hoskins wat sy prys gegee het na afloop van die wedstryd.
Die probleem met outjies wat verdwyn na skool kan toegeskryf word aan die drie D’s van die lewe…..(Drank, “Dinges” & Dwelms)……ongelukkig is dit in oorvloed op varsity & ook maar mens, ook maar …, baie moeilik om nie te swig nie. Daar is natuurlik die ysters wat weet van balans handhaaf en staaande kan bly, diesulkes is’ie manne wat dit ver bring en bo die res uit styg.@odie15 dis die kerel wat ook oppad ls Leeuland toe dan’ie….arme WP, teleurstellend om te lees hoe talent onder hul neus weggeraap word, dalk kan hulle met Green onderhandel as mens na hul huidige losskakel probleme kyk. My speler van die week @ CW gaan aan WP 15 Gianni Lombard, beslis ‘n ou wat dit nog ver gaan bring.
@odie15: How could I forget! Most important day of the year in the world of schoolboy rugby. @Roger: KES vs Jeppe should then field complete squads.
@Playa: Make that 8 reps
..2 more than Grey record which they achieved twice..1986 and 2010…but also in smalller squad.
@odie15: They also lost to Affies at Gim u/16 in 2014.
@Speartackle: had a look at year books now…last loss correction on score was 17-20 and to Grey College 9-19. Thats his only 2 losses since Jan 2014.
@Speartackle: I can tell you precisely when. 2 Aug 2014 u16A Interschools…..just a word on that lost by couple points memory serves 16-19. Also interesting fact Theo Boshoff slotted all GIM’s pens and Gianni missed a few. They will be kickers again this year.
@Quagga: Sean Erasmus and Boishaai have a small matter to deal with on 6th Aug 1st prior to National duty! Without that year will be well hmmmmmm I dont quite know how to say it.
@Romano: @Boishaai Old Boy: MOM was actually Khanya Ncusane for final.
@Grasshopper: There’s no harm in him being your beloved! Quite a few of the Paarl boys are my bois!
Congratulations to all the boys who made it. Some very deserving picks in those squads – both of which are very solid in my books. A huge feat for Boishaai with those 7 reps!!! That’s half the 1st XV
– true show of their prowess in the last 2 seasons. The school can be very proud.
@MikeSt: Mike, I am, not sure of injuries to some of the players, or if they are possibly playing at a higher level at this stage. However, going on Beet’s stats, 5 SA Schools players have not yet played this year. Another 9 from the SA -A side’s names is missing from his list. I also see that some of the SA Schools players do not make the starting line-up of their teams, and is on the bench.
@Naastrolia: As I said to Brotherbear, I do not like to name players on the blog. However, there is another talented group coming through next year at Boishaai. However, it is way to early to speculate on who will make it ,or not.
@Kattes-Strofes: Have you got stats on this guys from last year thats not playing CC u19 anymore
@Kattes-Strofes: Wyse woorde oom. Ek het gedink die vaste voorspelers was soms teleurstellend met stutte wat nie domineer nie en hakers wat nie goed ingooi nie maar hulle is daar in die spanne. Sal moet sien hoe weeg hulle op in die wedstryde wat kom.
@BrotherBear: Beertjie! That was in the past. I finished last year.(officially now a pensioner). There is some very talented boys in the 2016 group. I do not like to name and shame individual players, because a lot of the boys and their parents follow this blog. I just had to mention Franke, because of Naastrolia ‘s comment, and the fact that he was not included in any of the sides.
However, a number of exiting backs on display. I honestly was a bit disappointed with the forwards, especially the tight 5. Most of the props are good with ball in hand, but lack the power to dominate scrums. There were also only very few locks that may make it in rugby in the future.
My biggest concern lately is that a large number of SA Schools players do not progress further after school. It is already visible in the 2016 season where these players of 2015 is missing in action in the provincial u/19 competition.
I guess that sometimes the schools selectors got it wrong (which is quite possible and to which I can also relate to), but most of the times it looks like the players do not have a good work ethic after school, and just want to rely on their talent.
In today’s profesional rugby world, unions pay out good money for players, but wants a return on their investment.
Kattes-Strofes
Thanks for the interesting feedback.
I have only started watching him this year but on many occasions in a team with 8 SA School players he has been the best player and only in gr11.
Hard to understand him not making the team.
Atleast PBHS should have SA School player next year.
Any other candidates for next year currently in GR11 or GR10 in HJS?
I read Grey Collge has never had more than 6 players in the team.
The best two years in HJS history for rugby should they win remaining matches – can’t see it ever being equaled by a HJS team.
@Kattes-Strofes: Does any of the present SA Schools & SA A-side players feature in the 32, or was that for a different group?
Did you see any other players at Kearsney that pepped your interest? You obviously don’t have to mention details.
@Naastrolia: I have been a WP u/20 and senior selector for 29 years and was part of selectors who identified 32 future springboks. Although I am not a gambler, I will put money down on Francke Horn becoming a Springbok in the near future, barring he stays injury free.
Proud of Gugu Nelani selected for the SA A squad. Despite the team struggles, Northwood have done well to produce some great individuals in the last 3 years.
@Naastrolia: I agree. Excellent player.
@Rugbyman: Interresante rekord van een van my pelle se seuns wat in 2011 ste span gespeel het vir BH. Hy het nooit in n verloorspan teen Grey College gespeel nie!..in 2007 het hy 0/14B gespeel en 24-12 gewen…toe in 2008 speel hy 0/15A en hulle wen Grey 10-0. In 2009 speel hy weer 0/16B en hulle wen vir Grey weer. In 2010 speel hy vir die Chiefs (derdes) en hulle wen Grey op Brugstraat, in 2011 speel hy eerstes en speel gelykop 15 elk in Bloem…Hy was die witkop flank met die bynaam “Die Rawsonville Lorry”…hy het heelwat ouens raakgery met sy tackles..inkluis sy eie spanmaats!
In my eyes Francke Horne could also easily have been in the team.
@BoishaaiPa: Ek dink mis skoolseuns het so rekord… interessante waarneming van die spies…
@Speartackle: @Speartackle: Ek vermoed in 2014 laas by 0/16 toernooi by Gim toe hulle 26-13 teen Affies verloor het. Dit was hulle laaste verloor as ek dit nie mis het nie…maar ek kan dalk verkeerd wees.
Sal nogal interessant wees om te weet wanneer laas het Salmaan Moerat in n verloorspan gespeel?
Dink Manny Ras ook en dalk n paar ander.
Wonder wat is die rekord in dae wat n speler deel was van n wenspan.
@Hooit: As I understand it the semi must be moved if any of the two schools have SA school players… Not sure about the quarters though… We are busy looking into it.
@Romano: Ja ongelukkig is dit waar. Willemse ook. ‘n Groot verlies vir die WP.
Congratulations to all the boys that made the two SA school teams. To those that did’t make it hard luck but if you want to make it in rugby just keep working hard. After school everything changes and only the committed and hard working players will sucseed.
Special congrats to Sean and his coaching team and the Bois High kids that made the SA team. Bois High is the first school to get 8 players in a SA Schools team. GCB had six twice.
Boishaai
Wow Wow Wow
What an unbelievable achievement.
Has any team ever had more players, im assuming maybe Grey College but after that?
A very proud day indeed.
@BHOB thanx for info: ek verneem die man (Ras) is oppad Lions toe,Lombard ook, Bulle gesels met Willemse……
@Rugbyman: Must both schools agree to it in order to move the games or can 1 of the 2 playing schools request it. If Monnas plays Garsies without SA Schools players I think then Monnas becomes the firm favourites. In the Beeld competition Garsies stand to lose the most if the SA schools players cannot play. Depending on the Beeld rules it will be interesting to see if any school uses the advantage or not.
Thanx for the info re playing schools matches guys.
@Rugbyman: I was more referring to the dates in May!..
@BoishaaiPa: My playing days are over… but I am sure the boys will play next year…
Baie geluk aan elke jong man wat gekies is. Voorwaar iets om op trots te wees. Net jammer die 5 GCB manne gaan Glenwood en Paul Roos inters mis.
A couple of years ago they were withdrawn. Jesse Kriel missed the 3rdterm games.
@romano MOM of the CW final was Manny Rass, he was also MOM in the 2015 CW final. Im not sure who the player of the tournament was. Could have been Simelane.
@Grasshopper: There is only one Gob
Wie was MOM in CW final en speler van die week by CW kerels…..any info?
@Rugbyman: I am not sure. My son told me they are playing. We assume it is HTS but wil only know tomorrow.
@odie15: firstly he is not beloved, I just think the kid has a good future and he happens to be at Glenwood. Same with Warren Whiteley, happens to be a GOB, a great player and person to boot.
@Rugbyman: You going to play it next year or am I right in that the Beeld competition is so confusing you have already played it , but no one knows about it?..
SA Schools sides report for duty on Sunday 7 August in Cape Town.Play 3 games on Friday 12 August at City Park Tuesday 16 August at Bishops and Saturday 20 August at Paarl Boys High.
@Quagga: @Hooit: The SA school players are not “frozen” and are allowed to play for their schools… with regards to the semis, schools are allowed according to the Noordvaal regulations to move the semi final to the Tuesday after the SA school side played as was the case last year… We are also trying to move our quarter final to 6 May instead of 13 May…
Have monnas definitely succeeded in moving their quarter final to 6 May or have they applied to move it?
@Hooit: as I said a week training camp before they play nowadays. With England’s team a year out of school already you see how quick they catch up. But SA rugby needs to worry about after school., I believe the talent still carries us in u18 vs England. After that snr levels coaching is actually not very good.
@Quagga: The Monnas vs HTS Middelburg game will be next week already in order to use the SA players. Think they may then only be unavailable for semi finals in our case. Not sure about the rest. With Jaco van der Walt a few years ago he got selected. Played for Monnas a week before SA game, got injured and never got his colours as he could not play for SA team. Not sure if there is a official ruling.
@beet I know announcement was Johan Neetling but you can change it to Adam. @HE:
@Quagga: definitely wont be withdrawn. Last year boys joined group the Sunday a week before tournament. 2 weeks out of school.
@Quagga: I think before CW Kruger/Willemse/Pretorius/Ras were penned in to be honest. Watching all WK and premiere interschools and classic clashes those 4 stood out as obvious choices. I would go Muller dup/Simelane/Gianni as back 3. Think thats best backline actually Simelane being wing last year already.
@Grasshopper: at least your beloved JJ made SA A side injury/grade11 and all!!!
Last year a few u16 players that were not at the Grant Khomo were selected in the u16 green squad. Does anyone know if any of the players that represented their provinces at the Academy Week this year or were not involved in any of the youth weeks were perhaps selected into one of these two teams?
I wonder if the selected players will be withdrawn from their respective schools matches over the next month to prevent injuries. Does anybody know if there is a policy of some kind or an unwritten agreement from the top in that regard?
Eish, no Larkam than……not even SA A side, eish
Congrats to all! Would be interesting to see the Schools side vs A side.
Larkam and Carstens very unlucky not to be there.
Congrats to all the boys for reward after a long school career. Go and make yourself and your parents that supported you all the way PROUD
I’ll acknowledge that I’m not the biggest expert on who should have been chosen and who not, mainly due to lack of time to follow more games and this blog. But I watched all the Lions’ games this year. All three. Looking at the above, it is the same old story. Ruan de Swart ahead of Tyrone Green? I’ll put money on the table that if the 2 swopped jerseys, it would have been Green in the SA Schools team.