NO | NAME | TEAM | SCHOOL | A/G | H | W |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Lupumlo Mguca | Eastern Province | Daniel Pienaar | 17 | 173 | 106 |
1 | Michel Kumbarai | Blue Bulls | St Alban’s | 18 | 184 | 109 |
1 | Ngoni Chidoma | KwaZulu-Natal | Northwood | 18 | 184 | 118 |
2 | Jan-Henning Campher | Blue Bulls | Garsfontein | 18 | 182 | 105 |
2 | Le Roux Baard | South Western Districts | Outeniqua | 18 | 176 | 94 |
3 | Sarel-Marco Smith | Blue Bulls | Eldoraigne | 18 | 190 | 123 |
3 | Ignatius Prinsloo | Free State | Grey College | 17 | 190 | 120 |
4 | Aston Fortuin | Blue Bulls | Southdowns | 18 | 193 | 110 |
4 | Jaco Willemse | Western Province | Paarl Gim | 18 | 199 | 128 |
5 | Eduan Zandberg | South Western Districts | Outeniqua | 18 | 201 | 113 |
7 | Arnold Gerber | Blue Bulls | Menlopark | 18 | 188 | 94 |
7 | Victor Maruping | Free State | Louis Botha | 18 | 190 | 92 |
7 | Cobus Wiese | Griquas CD | Upington | 17 | 197 | 94 |
8 | Sipathu Pokamela | Eastern Province | Grey HS | 18 | 189 | 95 |
8 | Jaco Coetzee | KwaZulu-Natal | Glenwood | 18 | 187 | 100 |
8 | Edmund Rheeder | Leopards | Klerksdorp | 17 | 187 | 91 |
9 | Embrose Papier | Blue Bulls | Garsfontein | 17 | 172 | 75 |
9 | Marco jv Vuuren | Valke | Transvalia | 18 | 189 | 90 |
10 | Tinus de Beer | Blue Bulls | Waterkloof | 18 | 177 | 84 |
10 | Curwin Bosch | Eastern Province | Grey HS | 17 | 185 | 80 |
11 | Andell Loubser | Blue Bulls | Menlopark | 17 | 187 | 83 |
11 | Jerry Danquah | Border | Queens | 18 | 176 | 86 |
12 | JT Jackson | South Western Districts | Oakdale | 18 | 189 | 92 |
13 | Barend Smit | Pumas | HTS Middelburg | 18 | 184 | 94 |
14 | Nazo Nkala | Griffons | Welkom Gim | 18 | 185 | 87 |
15 | Eduan Keyter | Blue Bulls | Affies | 18 | 185 | 88 |
15 | Keanu Vers | Eastern Province | Grey HS | 18 | 173 | 78 |
15 | Morné Joubert | KwaZulu-Natal | Glenwood | 18 | 180 | 80 |
@Babbelas: Ja ek het Donderdag gehoor 1984 het die eerste Eldo SA skole gehaal. Daar was Vrydag ‘n mooi foto geneem met Stephan Lewies en Sarel-Marco saam met die afrigter.
Baie spesiaal!
@kosie: Is toe nie die eerste Eldo nie:
Schurmann, Deon – (Hoërskool Eldoraigne) – Blue Bulls – 1984
It was a surprise win…second half without him cost Waterkloof?
Naughty Thinus De Beer; Red Card today!
@CHS08: I think comparing Bosch and Steyn are like comparing apples to oranges. They are two very different flyhalfs in what they bring to the game. Where you are right is that Steyn and Winnaar have been better than Bosch up to this point in the season. But you saw what Bosch is capable of at craven week and had he been playing that way the whole season, I don’t think there would be much comparison. I think Steyn’s play can be compared to Tinus De Beers style of play.
@Rugbyfan @Bog @Knight CHS 07: SA Rugby selectors at all levels really irritate me with their selections! Courtney and Morgan are better than Bosch! Bosch is good yes but Morgan is just special! @Mike: We not criticising Grey players Pokomela and Vers deserve to be there infact Jeremy Ward and the Grey captain should be there too however Morgan Steyn is better than Bosch!
@Djou: Eintlik propageer ek nie die insluiting van veel Grey spelers nie, behalwe De Wet Bezuidenhout. Dit is n “vreemde” jaar. Geen uitsonderlike spelers, tog presteer die span as n eenheid. Ek is oortuig dat n hele paar S15 sal speel
@meadows: Andile Phelukwayo has made SA Schools & SA Under19 cricket and hockey I think 2 years in a row now…stand to be corrected……he will surely be Glenwood’s sportsman on the year and win the Derek La Marque trophy. Jonty Rhodes was probably the last to do that in KZN…
@Sir Pius: I’m not sure if anyone has done it since but Pat Lambie captained both the Craven Week and Nuffield sides in 2008. He also played in both in 2007 making the SA Schools rugby be side in both of those years and was certainly in with a chance to make the cricket side in ’08 but missed out.
I think that Errol Stewart from Westville played SA Schools rugby and cricket and Natal schools hockey if my recollection is correct.
@BOG: I did. The first assessment without classes and the second with. I used the average if the two readings.
@Bog: Moet saamstem! As die SA Skolespan nie op grond van Cravenweek gekies is nie – soos beweer word – maar op grond van vertonings regdeur die jaar, moes daar beslis meer spelers van Grey in die span gewees het. Maar ons weet teen die tyd dat SA Skole nie gelyk is aan Springbokke nie – maak nie saak wat SARU beweer nie.
Wat my egter die ongelukkigste maak is dat SARU geen respek het vir die kinders se akademie nie deur wedstryde net voor die rekordeksamen te skeduleer. So 2 weke weg van die skool op een van die belangrikste akademiese tye in ‘n seun se skoolloopbaan.
Wat ‘n selfsugtige instelling!
@Kosie: Wragtag, met daardie Ingels het die “witch” gewen.
Geluk met jul Bul. Trots op die Eldo Drake. Het ‘n sagte plekkie vir julle want my vrou was 13 jaar daar onderwyseres. Altyd lekker saam met Bart Schoeman gekuier wat nou by Leeus is. Dink sy vrou coach julle netbal!
@kosie: I suggest that you get a second opinion on that “assessment”
@star: Cannot really recall your old man. You’r right, some of us age really well! Still look the same as back then except for a few grey hair and a kg or 2 extra couple of cm shorter but otherwise the same
@ Kosie- no 8/lock. I think that tour made “men”of them It defines the well known expression” what goes on tour stays on tour.” My “cousin” ( for Tjoppa) was the captain of the 1981 side. His son is currently having his 21st birthday. Where has all the time gone. Thank goodness some of us age well
@Babbelas: En toe deur die Britse Leeus op hulle moer gegee. 12-3 op Nuweland as ek reg onthou. En ek moes die pyn persoonlik verduur nadat ek en vriende deurnag tou gestaan het vir kaartjies- in die reen. Selfs die OBs het nie gehelp nie
@star: The 81 KC team is still regarded as one of the best ever for KC. Great all round team with few weaknesses. The tour in 1980 to South America helped a lot of those guys develop a unique team spirit!
What position did your old man play? Not that I would necessarily remember him!
@ Kosie- my old man would have been part of the Old Crocks forwards kept busy by Hopkins that day. The Old Crocks went on to break with the traditional KC match to play Westville, Hilton and House. I think it was so he could play and dominate his sons. He actually played against his future son -in -law who was the vice captain of the 1981 KC side . Talk about back to the future stuff. Eventially he and his good mate Robbie Savage were put out to pasture at the age of 50. I think everyone said about bloody time. Good times indeed.
@Grasshopper: Thats correct, 1979 he captained both the SA Schools rugby and waterpolo teams. As far as I know it only happened once before at Glenwood with Mike Madsen captaining the SA Schools cricket and hockey teams in 1968. I wonder whether any other readers can tell us of double (or more) SA schools captains from their schools?
Are the SA school members playing in the schools derbies this weekend?
Congrats to the 3 Grey PE boys who made the team. Well deserved. Now to the serious business of the Grey College derby
@star: Weirdly La Marque leapfrogged Reece-Edwards to captain the SA Schools side, maybe they wanted a captain in the forwards. La Marque also captained SA Schools waterpolo that year and played SA mens waterpolo too….a huge talent!
@Buffel: My records have a Neil Zaltsman from 1985 – Northlands boy, in the SA Schools side.
@rugbyfan: I think maybe it’s because Bosch “stepped up” when it counted the most and that was at Craven Week. However he hasn’t been consistent and that maybe another reason why he was moved from no.10 to no.15.
Morgn Steyn on the other hand has been very consistent and accurate with the boot. He is a team player and is capable of handling the pressure. By far the best no.10 I have seen at Schoolboy rugby level.
Courtney “The Wizzard” Winnar has been consistent this season, even though he isn’t alwalys on target (kicking) like Steyn. He has good ball skills and runs into spaces. Did you see him against the Limpopo Blue Bulls at Craven WEEk? Him(Winnar) and Jerry Danquar were a good combination.
@Buffel: You brought back many a fond memory with the names you mentioned. I recall the 1979 game against the Old Crocks at KC with Hopkins almost single handedly keeping the old crocks forwards busy. And the 1980 Springbok team practise held at KC. We were all dissapointed as they only practised a few moves.
They did however have a token scrum against the 1st XV scrum. Good old day’s with good memories
@CHS08: @Playa: Personally think Winnaar is a much better No 10 than Bosch.
Can anyone remember who was the last schoolboy to captain both the Craven Week side and the Coca Cola U19 side for KZN in the same year? Please help!!!
@CHS08: The fly half storey is very interesting I think all the ECape No 10’s have been good this year Bosch/Steyn/Winnaar.
But up until Craven Week Steyn and Winnaar had been a lot better at school level than Bosch, who battled for Grey PE even got moved to No 15 for Grey PE as he was a bit suspect under pressure wonder were they will play him against GCB who will put a lot more pressure on him than what the CW teams did.
Good to see two Queens boys in this team.
@Hanswors: Ek stem saam, en wat jy sê omtrent die skeidsregter is waar, inteendeel was die kwaliteit en die interpretasie van sekere reels skokkend vir ‘n toernooi van die statuur.
Daar sal vir seker verskeie spanne wees as ons kan kies, maar met die tegnologie en die herhaling van die games deur die hele week is dit baie moeilik om te aanvaar dat sekere manne totaal en al oor die hoof gesien is.
Baie geluk aan die manne wat die span gehaal het, maar ek sal instaan vir die keurders en namens hulle om verskoning vra ( hulle is te verwaand om dit te doen,..of hulle dien weer die verskuilde agenda vir poliek ) vir die jongmanne wat nie gekies is nie en dit oor en oor verdien het.
Daai Ward seun van die Sharks is ‘n baie goeie voorbeeld, uitstekende week gehad,..nie eers vir die oefengroep gekies nie ( shame on the selectors ). Om terug te kom na die Blou Bulle jongmanne,..ek sukkel om te sien dat agt spelers van die Bulle die room van die CW was.
Ek dink nie enige span was opgewasse teen OP se goeie spel nie, maar dat WP en die Vrystaat nie opgedaag het nie is waar. Ek sal maar glo dat dit die rede was vir die weglating van daardie talentvolle jongmanne.
Dis sal mos lekker wees om vir ‘n verandering die beste 0/18 manne in hulle posisie in Suid Afrika op die veld te sien, …ons werk mos hier met jongmanne wat met ‘n goeie voorbeeld die toekoms moet ingaan. Die stelsel maak meer skade as wat dit goed doen,…luister net na die uitspraak van Jurie Roux,..hy het nie ‘n clue wat op grondvlak aangaan nie.
Die uitspraak is seker maar aanvaarbaar, aangesien in SA jy nie bevoeg hoef te wees om ‘n bestuurspos te beklee nie. Rugby deur die land op al die vlakke is in ‘n gemors,… maak skoon van bo-af sodat ons van onder af kan begin opbou en die talent behou en opbou.
@star: 79– La Marque,Hopkins and some guy by the name of Jameson made SA schools that year.I remember the time well as it was my 1st year at KC. Moon at flank for MHS was unbelievable and kicked for posts. Good old days.
@star: Yes he was in the 1979 CW team. He played SA Nuffield cricket during 1979 too. At the time he was rated to be a better cricket player than rugby player if I remember correctly. (We did our basic military training at the same time and place in 1980. He was in just about every sports’ team ).
If I’m not mistaken he was a good water polo player as well.
@ Meadows- Reece Edwards captained the 1979 CW week team with La Marque as his vice captain. Smith was a monster of a centre. I think he still holds the shot put record at NW/Northlands. Very intimidating squaring up to him on the rugby field.
@Predator: Jy sou al 3 keer wat jy die wedstryd tussen die Bulle en die OP op dag 2 van die CW gekyk het, gesien het dat die Bulle ingedoen was met die drie wat nie toegeken was nie waar die vlagman beweer het dat dit uit was. Die skeidsregter is ingelig deur die TMO maar die bal was klaar by die daaropvolgende lynstaan ingegooi en kon dus nie teruggaan na die drie toe nie. Hy het na die tyd die Bulle om verskoning kom vra. Dit is water onder die brug deur…..SO die Bulle moes eindelik in die finaal gespeel het.
Ek stem saam dat al die keuses nie noodwendig geregverdig is nie maar dit sal ALTYD so wees ……..Die laaste dag se wedstryde is nie uitgesaai nie en ek is seker dat jy sal saamstem dat SWD nie opgedaag het vir die finaal nie en dit het nie die keuses vir meer SWD seuns goed gedoen het nie.
Daar was 2 spanne wat se kondisionering nie goed gelyk het nie en dit is WP en OVS. Baie van die seuns het te swaar en lomp gelyk…..dit is maar slegs my opinie! Baie geluk aan die seuns wat gekies – gebruik julle kanse en moet nie ophou hard werk nie!
@Buffel: If you read a previous post the selection was made from u/16 and there is no place for boys who played brilliant at the CW and was never noticed before ALA ceo SARU. I said it before and will say it again SA Schools should be the boys who deserved selection on the weeks. Punt Klaar. SARU en sy hoere het klaar pro rugby opgedonner nou begin hulle inmeng by skole ook.
@meadows: Reece also made the SA Schools Cricket side
@BOG: This team IS NOT picked on merit! Morgan Steyn and Bosch should be the flyhalf! Where the hell is the Paul Roos scrumhalf? His the best no.9 in SA in my opinion! Jeremy Ward should have been there aswell!
@Buffel: Reece Edwards was around 77-78 but Robin Smith was 80-81. I don’t recall if either of them played Craven Week but they were certainly talented rugby players.
@BOG: Dis maar soos in die laat 70’s toe Noord Transvaal die Curriebeker oor heers het maar as die Bok span gekies word is daar 8 WP spelers in die span!
All the bloggers could come up with an alternate side that would give the selected 28 a run for their money and probably beat them. Playing people out of position etc is normally a Sharks senior side ploy but this is ridiculous. There are players that did not make the 55 who should have been a cert. 1. jANTJIES. 2. WARD. and the list goes on.
As one blogger put it, it is a nice to have on the C.V. but in the greater scheme of things not imperative. How many deserved boys from the Free State / Grey didn’t even get to Craven Week. I was expecting them to be the side to beat but were a shadow of the Grey side that has plundered all before them. Slipping through the cracks ,hopefully caught by the scouts from the unions making sure that South African rugby is in a good place.
@NW_Knight:Reece-edwards is one that comes to mind, Dave Toms??? and Robin Smith but know Reece was in the ;80 side.
@GreenBlooded: First for Northwood. I suspect Northlands may have had one.
Ek is waaragtig baie verbaas dat skole soos GCB, PRG, Monnas, 2xPaarls geen SA skolespelers opgelewer het nie. ‘n span uit die 5 skole sal seersekerlik die SA skolespan pakslae gee.
Geluk aan die SWD jongmanne,… hulle het ‘n goeie CW gehad. Dit is nog steeds ‘n “Mystery” vir my oor die hoeveelheid Bulle wat die span gehaal het. Ek het elke CW game seker 3 keer gekyk en kan wragtig nie saamstem met baie van die keuses nie. Dan is daar nog die Vrystaat faktor hierdie jaar wat my ook stom laat…..TOP in die Land…..met geen speler in die skolespan nie. Jy kan slegs die skolerugby in SA domineer as jy briljante spelers het,…beslis meer as een nodig om top te eindig,…maaaaar nie goed genoeg vir SA skole span nie. Daar moet ‘n gedeelte wees in die ” formule van Keuse” wat ek mis of glad nie verstaan toe meneer verduidelik het nie. Sal iemand my ook inlig , want ek wil ook ‘n gerekende skole rugby kenner wees.
@Dagghaboy: dankie. Mens wil nie suurgat wees nie, maar daar is tye waar waarheid hoer geplaas moet word as n huigelende aanvaarding van blatante verkragting van beginsels.
@BOG: Jou opmerking is pertinent en ek deel die sentiment.
And merit is written all over the team
Congratulations to all the players, particularly the 9 blue bulls. They must have had an exceptional cw.
@Djou: ja we just cheks the scores board, then we now witch won!
Well done to Jaco and Morne, amazing achievement! Class players! Glenwood’s best ever.
So this team assembles on 10 August and play up to 23 August.
What about their preparation for the matric exams, the most important one of their lives.
Again, as in the past, Saru showing disrespect for academics.
Why not arranging the games during the short holiday break?
Northwood and the predecesors – Beachwood and Northlands, is Chidoma their first?
@Beet: Congrats on scooping all those big names journos at all those big names media houses with the SA Schools team.
@MikeSt: @Kosie: I are at Sarries and are a Saffa. We is playing rugby by the Cheetahs. Learn me to train them.
@meadows: Thanks for the info, very interesting comparitive. I recall the Grey side that year (2008) were pretty formidable aswell.
@Dave41: Grey had two in 2008 in Chuma Faas and Siya Kolisi. That year they only picked an SA Schools side of 22 players after Craven Week. They also picked two B sides (North & South) as well as a side from the Academy Week that incidentally thumped SA Schools when they played each other. Grey HS had at least one other player in the South team as well as a few in the Academy side so arguably if they had picked a squad this size they may have matched this performance.
Of interest is that the SA Schools side that year has produced 3 Springboks – as many as emerged from the North & South sides. The only loose forward who is a Bok is Kolisi. I think that the only other loose forwards playing pro rugby are CJ Stander and Helmut Lehman. This was in a year that Marcel Coetzee didnt even make the Craven Week side
@MikeSt: Juis daarom Saracens toe. Daar moet almal English praat! ‘n Mens leer so vinnig!
@Djou: En dan verstaan hy ook nie lekker Ingels nie
@Hanswors: Ongelukkig het ek nie veel hoop nie. Dink Rory sal goed doen, maar Naka is blykbaar nou ook na Saracens (lees Brendan Venter) gestuur om daar te gaan leer.
Waarom hom oorsee stuur as hy Brendan in die Kaap kon gaan sien?
Met die denke gaan Cheetahs nog meer sukkel in Super 15 in 2015 – tensy daar nog ‘n verandering of twee kom.
@Dave41: Remarkable indeed. Queens would have 2 players, instead Southdowns has probably their first (of many to come) ever representative.
Some unlucky ommissions, but the side still looks good. Well done to all the boys who made it. Do yourselves and your schools proud!!!
Stassen van Valke en van Rooyen van OP ongelukkig om nie span te maak nie.
Wow, Grey High School have three players. That must be the most in history.
@Djou: @TW BOSS: Thx Bulle waardeer
@Babbelas: Ja. Groot jaar vir Eldo se rugby. Eerste Springbok (Stephan Lewies) en eerste SA skole speler.
Hoop net ons kan in die toekoms nog oplewer!
@kosie: Is dit Eldo se eerste SA skole speler? Dink so!
Te veel Loskop stutte en heelagters.
@Djou – ek hoop die nuwe besems vee mooi skoon daar in die Rosestad!!
@beet: No picks at 6 and only one at 5 are glaring omissions.
@MikeSt: Sorry ou bul – maar ek is seker Hendre sal aanstaande jaar daar wees! Hy is tops!
Congrats to everyone. Now make yourselves and us all proud!
Just hope there will be a 6 flank in the team – and we don’t play with 14.
@MikeSt:Geluk en sterkte aan al die seuns wat gekies is. Jammer daar my maat ek is net so verbaas . Weet ook nie wat is die idee met net 1 No 5 slot , gaan seker 7Flank Cobus Wiese sub as dit nodig is . Hendre se workrate is net so goed , maar wat weet ek.
@Beet: I think you will find Jaco playing 6 with Pokamela starting at 8 – my guy feeling anyway.
We saw a few good no.6’s at CW. None of them were chosen for trials. Then none of the 4 players picked out of position at no.6 for trials made it??? Maybe the selectors should have just chosen the specialist no.6s from CW for trials to begin with.
@Woltrui: a big surprise but I think Cobus Wiese will cover 5 now and actually might have been selected as a lock in the end – that’s where he played at CW.
Geluk aan die seuns wat gekies is.
Net weereens , geen GCB First Team speler in die SA skole span??????
Roelfie, jy’s toe reg met jou stelling aan die seuns gewees, “ons sal sien wie lag die laaste!”
Hoop net ons is nou klaar met jou kapperjolle.
-Only one no 5 lock? Such a crucial position. Why not rather one left or right wing-I am sure one of the 3 no 15’s can cover wing (Stassen boitjie extremely unlucky)
-Congrats to especially the Blue Bulls laaities.
-Generally a good squad IMHO.
Well done to all that were chosen! Enjoy the experience. It is something that you will remember for the rest of your live’s.
Sarel-Marco, jou yster. Geluk! Eldo is trots op jou!
Geluk aan almal.
@ MikeSt – Gedog jou laaitie sou dit maak …, nou moet EGJ gunstelinge wees vir Beeld Trofee
well done to the KZN players and goodluck to the whole team. Make us proud boy
@RBugger: Thank you Sir appreciated.
@MikeSt: Your youngster one of the glaring ommisions from this squad! Guess he has time on his side, but deserved his spot this year already.
Congrats to all the boys that made it and good luck with the upcoming games.
“ek bly n bul”
Well done to all the boys selected, especially the KZN boys, awesome achievment.
Personally feel there are one or two bad ommisions from this squad, but that is just the way it goes.
Good Luck to everyone selected
Trial players who did not make the team:
1 Kenny Van Niekerk KwaZulu-Natal Glenwood
2 Alandré van Rooyen Eastern Province Nico Malan
2 Nico Peyper Valke EG Jansen
3 Stefan Hanekom Griquas CD Duineveld
3 Koos Tredoux KwaZulu-Natal Glenwood
4 Rhyno Herbst Golden Lions Monument
4 Rikus Swart Griquas Noord-Kaap
5 Teubus Brits Griquas CD Landboudal
5 Hendre Stassen Valke EG Jansen
5 Ruben De Villiers Western Province HJS Paarl BH
6 Jurie Fick Boland AW
6 Luigy van Jaarsveld EP CD Marlow
6 Len Massyn Golden Lions Monument
6 Saul Abrahams Western Province Bishops
7 Conal Brown Boland Klein Nederburg
8 Hacjivah Dayimani Golden Lions AW Jeppe
9 Jaywinn Juries Griffons Hentie Cilliers
9 Stephan Enslin Pumas HTS Middelburg
10 Tristan Tedder KwaZulu-Natal Kearsney
11 Connery Poole Blue Bulls Garsfontein
12 Franco Naude Blue Bulls Garsfontein
12 Heino Bezuidenhout Eastern Province Daniel Pienaar
12 Tshepo Thulo Golden Lions Jeppe
13 Markus Coetzer Leopards Bergsig
13 Cyprian Nkomo Pumas Middelburg
14 Manie Libbok South Western Districts Outeniqua
14 Duncan Saal Western Province Kasselsvlei
Sjoe! They really made us wait for this one!