| School Rugby fixtures & results – week ending 20 July 2024 | ||||||
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| Tue.16Jul | WP | Durbanville | 22-27 | Boland Landbou | WP | |
| Wed.17Jul | EP | Kirkwood | 17-37 | Brandwag (EP) | EP | |
| Wed.17Jul | GRF | Trio | 62-00 | Sentraal | FS | |
| Sat.20Jul | KZN | Durban HS | 18-11 | Northwood | KZN | |
| Sat.20Jul | BOL | Drostdy | 12-25 | Oakdale | SWD | |
| Sat.20Jul | BOL | x-x | WP | |||
| Sat.20Jul | BOL | Hermanus | 14-33 | Charlie Hofmeyr | BOL | |
| Sat.20Jul | BOL | Hopefield | 19-22 | Swartland | BOL | |
| Sat.20Jul | WP | Wynberg | 20-45 | Paarl Gim | WP | |
| Sat.20Jul | WP | Paul Roos | 42-07 | Bishops | WP | |
| Sat.20Jul | WP | Boland Landbou | 27-22 | Rondebosch | WP | |
| Sat.20Jul | WP | SACS | 12-20 | HJS Paarl BH | WP | |
| Sat.20Jul | WP | Stellenberg | 24-24 | Outeniqua | SWD | |
| Sat.20Jul | WP | Melkbosstrand | 11-31 | Brackenfell | WP | |
| Sat.20Jul | WP | DF Malan | 29-41 | HTS Bellville | WP | |
| Sat.20Jul | WP | Strand | 19-33 | Milnerton | WP | |
| Sat.20Jul | BOL | Overberg | 31-10 | Robertson | BOL | |
| Sat.20Jul | BOR | Queen’s | 18-06 | Selborne | BOR | |
| Sat.20Jul | BOR | Port Rex | 19-31 | Cambridge | BOR | |
| Sat.20Jul | BOR | Hudson Park | 66-00 | Stirling | BOR | |
| Sat.20Jul | EP | Graeme | 17-37 | Kingswood | EP | |
| Sat.20Jul | EP | Nico Malan | 45-16 | Daniel Pienaar | EP | |
| Sat.20Jul | EP | Brandwag (EP) | 28-17 | Bergsig | EP | |
| Sat.20Jul | EP | St Andrew’s | 26-25 | Dale | BOR | |
| Sat.20Jul | EP | Pearson | 29-26 | Marlow | EP | |
| Sat.20Jul | BUL | Pretoria BH | 18-19 | Maritzburg College | KZN | |
| Sat.20Jul | BUL | Waterkloof | 28-43 | Affies | BUL | |
| Sat.20Jul | LIO | KES | 13-23 | Jeppe | LIO | |
| Sat.20Jul | FS | Sentraal | 12-34 | Goudveld | GRF | Wesgrow SSS |
| Sat.20Jul | FS | Fichardtpark | 28-25 | Trio | GRF | Wesgrow SSS |
| Sat.20Jul | GRF | Voortrekker (Beth) | 53-26 | Jim Fouche | FS | Wesgrow SSS |
| Sat.20Jul | GRF | Witteberg | 26-36 | Diamantveld | GRQ | Wesgrow SSS |
| Sat.20Jul | FS | Grey College | 41-27 | Grey HS | EP | |
| Sat.20Jul | GRQ | Upington | 25-21 | Landboudal | FS | |
| Sat.20Jul | GRQ | x-x | GRF | High travel costs | ||
| Sat.20Jul | PUM | Piet Retief | 10-27 | Potch Volkskool | LEO | NV Bowl |
| Sat.20Jul | LIM | Merensky | 31-43 | Randburg | LIO | NV Bowl |
| Sat.20Jul | VAL | Dr Malan | 20-07 | Alberton | LIO | NV Bowl |
| Sat.20Jul | LEO | Wagpos | 13-88 | Eldoraigne | BUL | NV Bowl |
| Sat.20Jul | BUL | Garsfontein | 44-37 | Noordheuwel | LIO | NV Cup |
| Sat.20Jul | LEO | Rustenburg | 31-19 | Helpmekaar | LIO | NV Cup |
| Sat.20Jul | LIO | Marais Viljoen | 33-40 | Menlopark | BUL | NV Cup |
| Sat.20Jul | PUM | Nelspruit | 21-12 | Monument | LIO | NV Cup |
| Sat.20Jul | BUL | Zwartkop | 17-34 | Middelburg | PUM | NV Plate |
| Sat.20Jul | BUL | Montana | 24-45 | Transvalia | VAL | NV Plate |
| Sat.20Jul | LEO | Klerksdorp | 38-31 | Ligbron | PUM | NV Plate |
| Sat.20Jul | VAL | Kempton Park | 12-42 | HTS Middelburg | PUM | NV Plate |
| Sat.20Jul | LEO | Lichtenburg | 37-26 | Die Anker | VAL | NV Shield |
| Sat.20Jul | LIM | Pietersburg | 23-25 | Ben Vorster | LIM | NV Shield |
| Sat.20Jul | VAL | Hugenote (Springs) | 29-30 | Heidelberg VS | VAL | NV Shield |
@Renoster (Comment #353)
Mooi wen vandag oor Menlo met 2 punte.Span wat amper 100 gekry het teen die Bere.Daai wenne oor Monas en Garsies plaas in perspektief….
Hierdie Nelspruit 15 punt storie klink vir my baie na die boks dae in die 70’s en 80’s toe oorsese boksers beweer het hul sal die SA teenstanders moet uitslaan net om op punte te kan wen
Dit laat my ook aan n skolewedstryd dink lank gelede teen Memel. Dit was n B of C span 0/14 wedstryd, diep in die 2de helfte, die laaities is al vodde en dit is n baie tight game. Na n losgetjommel staan die Memel kaptein so sukkel sukkel op, gedaan en vodde en vra die ref of hy weet wat die score is…. Ref antwoord hom… 12-10 vir ons
@Deon (Comment #346)
Ja Nee Chris is en was ‘n legende, hy het vir NHS se 6de Rugbyspan gespeel. Hy was tot in sy laaste jare baie betrokke by die skool wat ondersteuning betref.
@Chronicle (Comment #350)
Lol…you see right through me
@Chronicle (Comment #349)
Who did you play for?
Kaya, I don’t know you as I am not a regular visitor here. But I see the same people still talking the same sh*t. And noticed you joined the club. Strongs.
In my time HTS Middelburg used to be the powerhouse, with Nellies a close second. But we knew, as our coaches warned us, that we needed to be 30 points better because the refs will nail us and blew their own rules. I was lucky or unlucky to experiense it twice against the Rooies and Nellies.
On top of it, they were really good teams and in my opinion did not need the refs’ assistance. But they got it nevertheless.
Glad to see it is now down to 15 points. It means the refs improved.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #347)
Bravo!
@Renoster (Comment #340)
@Rugbyman (Comment #339)
…and while views are being exchanged, here is my opinion:
the claim that a visiting team from outside of Nelspruit has to be 15 points better to Win, is just not feasible, based on your own evidence…one specific incident is cited of possible obstruction leading to a try. So, even if that was a 50-50 call going to the home team, that’s 1 try…with the potential conversion.
So the 15 point hypothesis must be replaced by a ‘5 or 7 point better’ , and let’s take the average and say 6.
New hypothesis: the visiting team has to be 6 points better than Nelspruit to emerge as the game’s winner.
By the way, I kinda think that same 6 points would apply to neighbours Garsfontein at Affies or vice versa, or Monnas at Noordheuwel or vice versa.
@Renoster (Comment #343)
Ek sien een van julle grootste Mataffin seuns, die skrywer Chris Barnard sou vroeër hierdie maand verjaar het, en hy het in 1956 en 1957 vir een of ander Nelspruit Hoër rugbyspan opgedraf, lyk soos ‘n “per gewig” span of spanne. Inelkgeval, een van my helde.
@Renoster (Comment #343)
Snaaks hoe mens ‘n finaal heeltemal anders onthou…
@Renoster (Comment #343)
Dra die onderwysers ook Outsurance klere as hulle blaas?
@PietPompies (Comment #342)
Die derde en B-span wedstryde word verdeel tussen onderwysers van beide skole, nie deur Unie wedstrydbeamptes nie. Ek is bly daardie skeidsregter het geluister na die seun en sy fout reggestel. Nie alle skeidsregters sal dit doen nie.
Die 15 punte propoganda is absoluut nonsins, Rustenburg en Menlo het Nellies op hul tuisveld gewen. Ek onthou ook spesifiek die 0/16 wedstryd teen Waterkloof verlede jaar wat mnr Alex Jonker geblaas het. Nelspruit sou die wen drie gedruk het in die laaste sekondes, en mnr Jonker het geblaas dat die aangee vorentoe was. Ek kan tot vandag toe nie sien hoe daardie aangee vorentoe was nie. Some calls you win, some calls you lose!
In die 2014 Beeldtrofee finaal, tussen Garsfontein en Nelspruit, laaste sekondes…..laaste skrum op die 22 van Nelspruit. Garsfontein se vasskop stut val met elmboog op die gras, Puma skeidsregter laat spel aangaan en Garsfontein druk drie. Dank vader die doelskop was mis, anders sou Nelspruit geroof gewees het van ‘n beroemde wen.
@Rugbyman (Comment #330)
Ek hou ook nie daarvan om skeidsregters die skuld te gee vir ‘n verloor of selfs vir ‘n wen nie. Maar ek moet sê in die wedstryde tussen NHS en Garsies was daar ‘n paar interessante besluite en skeidsregters (en ek praat spesifiek nie van die 1e span nie)
As iemand lus of tyd het, gaan kyk gerus die 3de span wedstryd… 2 voorbeelde:
Garsies skop af en die bal trek nie 10 treë nie… die bal hop terug oor die halflyn in Garsies se halfgebied waar hulle noodgedwonge die bal speel. Die skeidsregter gee ‘n STRAFSKOP teen Garsies waar die bal gespeel is, kan jy glo! Eers nadat Garsies se kaptein mooi vir hom 2 keer moes verduidelik dat hy verkeerd is, gee hy die skrum op die middelkol.
Tweede geval, Garsies slaan die bal aan en mnr die ref speel voordeel vir NHS. Die bal vat ‘n goeie 20 sekondes om uit die losskrum te kom en Garsies bars oor vir ‘n drie. Met sy arm steeds uit vir voordeel aan NHS, ken hy in elkgeval die drie toe!
‘n 15 Punt voorsprong in Nelspruit is gewis so! Verder moet jy lang afstand drieë teen hulle druk, want as daar ‘n losskrum in die 22 gevorm word, is daar ‘n goeie kans dat jy vir iets gestraf gaan word… dis dan mos ‘n 50/50 call!
@Renoster (Comment #340)
Sonder passie is mens dood… en hoe boring sou die lewe dan nie wees nie! Lekker week!
@Rugbyman (Comment #339)
Yes ek stem, geen kwade gevoelens van my kant af. Ons is almal maar net passievolle ondersteuners wat ons spanne “back”. Ek dink as die rolle omgeruil was, waar Nelspruit moes gaan druk het en Monnas moes verdedig sou Monument beslis argumenteer het dis opstruksie en Nellies sou weer dink dit is nie. Ek glo ook weer daar was verskeie hoog duike op Nelspruit spelers wat nie geblaas is nie. Op die einde van die dag gaan ons “robot skeidsregters” moet aanstel wat NIE foute kan maak en die menslike faktor uithaal. Selfde met die RWC finaal, All Black ondersteuners dink dit, Springbok ondersteuners dink dat. Dit hang af wie u ondersteun of al is jy neutraal, dit is ongelukkig wat dit is. Ek dink ook dit is onregverdig om die Laeveld en hul skeidsregters te “label”, dit is vals propoganda.
Wat almal moet onthou, Nellies en Rustenburg is die enigste spanne buite Gauteng, al die ander spanne se weg wedstryde is maksimum 50km weg, arme Nst moet teen 5 van die spanne 400km reis en by “Altitude”/ 2000m bo seevlak gaan speel! Streng gesproke is Rustenburg ook maar in Gauteng by die res.
Nellies het die slegste en moeilikste pad in die liga! Die res het almal DALK 1 wedstryd waar hul 400km na Nelspruit moet reis, afhangende of hul weg of tuis teen Nelspruit speel!
@Renoster (Comment #338)
Mmmmmmmm nee maar goed dan… ek sien jy weet presies waarna ek verwys. Ons sal nie daarmee saamstem nie. Maar jy moet erken, en ek het dit getoets met 2 baie senior refs, dat as hy nie daarvoor gestraf het nie sou julle nie kon kla nie. Die 13 het in die senior refs se opinie, nie obstruksie gepla nie. So kom ons sê dan dat die 50/50 calls nie na monnas se kant toe gegaan het nie… daars geen punt in die argument nie. Ons gaan mekaar nie oortuig nie. 15 punte beter, anders kry jy op jou moer. Ek vat niks weg van julle span nie, hulle bring dit en is goed afgerig.
@Rugbyman (Comment #335)
Gaan kyk gerus weer na die video, jy sal duidelik sien, die buitesenter 13, het duidelik opstruksie gepleeg om ‘n verdediger te verhoed om te duik. NZ het dieselfde beweging teen Ierland in die tweede toets in NZ 2023 gedoen. Goeie skeidsregters sien dit raak.
@Renoster (Comment #336)
Hiers ‘n news flash… ek het vir 8 jaar lank geref, lank gelede… so ja… ek weet hoe dit is…
Ons het ook vertroulik verneem dat mnr Alex Jonker van die Pumas, (A-skeidsregter) amptelik bedank het na die “verbal abuse” van eensydige ondersteuners van groot rugbyskole. Hulle ken ongelukkig NIE hul reels nie en nerens kan hulle vir ons op video wys waar ‘n foutiewe beslissing was nie.
Dis altyd maklik om ‘n skeidsregter te blameer, maar mnr was u al ooit ‘n skeidsregter op ‘n veld? Indien nie, moet nie kommentaar lewer want u weet nie watter moeilike taak dit is nie. Ja daar is 50 -50 % calls wat na enige kant toe kan gaan.
Ons voel weer Gauteng skeidsregter bed@nner ons, maar ons braak nie gal daaroor nie, ons bestudeer videos en indien ons voel dit was onregverdig gaan haal ons die clip op SSS en stuur dit vir die BBRU of waar okal die skeidsregter vandaan kom. Maar om op sosiale media te gaan galbraak en ‘n opinie te gee sonder enige sekonde greep van video is vir my maar net suurdruiwe en valse propoganda.
@Renoster (Comment #334)
Ai meneer Orton… (Ek dink dis jy?) ai… ek het geensins verwys na ons wedstryd nie. Ons het ons kanse gehad om te wen en dit nie gebruik nie. Ek het verwys na die Monnas wedstryd. Ek gaan rerig nou nie in daai detail ingaan nie, dis onnodig. Die gevoel van skole buite Nelspruit is só, glo dit of ignoreer dit, jou keuse. Maar as jy nou rerig wil voorbeelde soek sal ek jou verwys na die drie van monnas wat nie toegeken is nie oor “obstruksie”. Was een vd interessante calls… Anyway, dit is wat dit is. Eks bly Nelspruit is weer kompeterend want ons kort ‘n sterk skool in die laeveld, dis gesond. My punt sal egter altyd bly. Jy moet ten minste 15 punte beter wees as Nelspruit om daar te wen.
@Rugbyman (Comment #330)
Ek vra weer, die wedstryd is op Supersport schools, wys vir ons spesifiek op watter sekondegreep daar ‘n swak beslissing was. Ek dink nie jy ken jou reels nie. Die skeidsregter is van Ermelo afkomstig (Nie ‘n Nelspruit liefhebber nie) en sal nie kinders bevark met beslissings nie. Ek dink maar net dit is suurdruiwe oor julle ook op jul mo@r gekry het. :-)
@Rugbyman (Comment #332)
Net ‘n klein regstelling, glad nie belangrik nie, as jy na Affies as grootste seunskool in die land verwys jy met so 100m uit, die souties oorkant die pad is die grootste seunskool in die land.
Seuns skole is nie die alfa en die omega nie. Dit bly maar elkeen se keuse waar hy gelukkig is. Ek kyk maar net na al die comments en dan sien ek hoe party mense dink dat jy dit nie gaan maak in die lewe as jy nie in ‘n seunsskool is nie. Jammer vir die slegte nuus, maar daar is lewe buite en na skool. Elkeen maak sy eie keuses wat vir hom die beste werk. Elke situasie is uniek en elkeen sal op een of ander manier hulle eie situasie en besluit kan justify. Ek stem dat co-ed skole sukkel om mee te ding vanaf C span en dieper. Dit is wat dit is, kom ons aanvaar dit so en beweeg aan. Dis egter ook so dat ons bv teen AHS die jaar gekompeteer het met ons A spanne, twee gewen het en twee binne 5 punte was. Ons B-spanne het ook goed gedoen binne konteks. Dis vir ons ‘n voorreg om te kan kompeteer met die grootste seunsskool in die land. Dis egter nie te sê dat jy iets verkeerd doen as jy nie jou seun na ‘n seunsskool toe stuur nie. Daar is voordele en nadele aan beide besluite. Daars nerens ‘n eutopia waar als perfek is nie. Kom ons breek nie co-ed skole af nie. Kom ons hou op om hulle as minderes te sien. Party mense hou van koffie sonder melk, ander met melk. Ander drink tee. Solank jou kind gelukkig is moet jy tevrede wees.
My two cents…
En nou gaan ek natuulik aangeval word…
@Hanswors (Comment #329)
Daar is net 4 seunskole wat meer wedstryde sal wen teen top. CoEd skole. Die 4 het rondom 1200 seuns elk (HJS bietjie minder). Hulle is tussen 100-170 jaar oud.
@VanniLaeveld (Comment #294) Ek verwys spesifiek na die Nelspruit vs Monnas wedstryd wat ek as neutrale kyker gekyk het. Ek is nie ‘n Monnas supporter nie. Eerstens, julle span is goed afgerig en julle seuns speel goeie rugby. Julle afrigtinhspan en seuns verdien baie krediet. Tweedens, ongelukkig was daar in die spesifieke wedstryde ‘n paar BAIE swak/interessante beslissings teen die besoekende span. Dit is ‘n feit onder besoekende spanne dat jy ten minste 15 punte beter moet wees as Nelspruit in Nelspruit om die game te wen. Ek volstaan daarby. Lekker dag
#323 – Co Ed skole kan nie saam gesels met die seunsskole as dit by rugby kom nie. Dit is nog al die jare so dat seunsskole se rugby diepte altyd sal wen soos wat ons onlangs gesien het met die co ed skole wat teen Affies mee geding het. (Paarl Gim is vir my die uitsondering maar daar is geskiedenis en tradisie wat n groot rol speel)
Ek stem saam dat die hoeveelheid spanne in co ed skole nie as maatstaf gebruik moet word nie. Ek dink so 14 spanne is baie goed vir co ed skole en dit is volhoubaar sonder om te veel druk op beursies te sit.
Dit is ook goed om te sien dat co ed skole uitblink op ander gebiede ook soos bv Kloof wat die beste gholf skool in SA is, hulle krieket is oor die algemeen ook baie goed , hulle fietsry is uitstekend , hulle is n voorloper in e-sport (het blykbaar onlangs die eerste e-sport geleentheid in SA aangebied – Grey het gewen) hulle het n pianis wat n wereld kompetisie gewen het …..so rugby is nie noodwendig alles nie.
Ander skole het ook goeie prestasies met ander fokus as rugby, en daardeur se ek nie seunsskole fokus net op rugby nie.
Die kort en die lank is dat elke kind sy passie moet uitleef en n geleentheid en blootstelling kry om sy talent uit te leef op alle gebiede.
#325 Dream Teams is net n realiteit in sommige mense se koppe. Die dinamika verander elke jaar in elke skool en die kinders word 1 jaar ouer en sterker en party verloor vorm en belangstelling – jy kan nie kinders wat in onder 16 ingeneem word (dit is gewoonlik waar hulle sterk na vore tree)in watte toe draai vir 2 jaar nie – ons het gesien wat gebeur met sterre wat saam gegooi word in een span en dan is daar geen samehorigheid nie maar 10 of 12 individue.
@Grizzly (Comment #325)
not neccesarily Grizzly….HJS apparently also building for 2025….but you never know
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #323)
Die onderwerp interesseer my ook baie. En jy is reg, my kommentaar was meer gemik op Eerstespan en A span kompeterendheid, en die idee van ‘n Superliga. Ek stem saam C-Span en laer in ouderdomme (E-Span o/18) raak amper onmoontlik.
Hoeveel seunskole is daar wat elke week 20 of meer spanne kan gee, en wat kompeterend sal wees teen Affies, Grey, HJS en PRG se C spanne?
So almal is dit eens,volgende jaar is Affies se dream team.Monsters op die horison.
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #323)
Valuable insight. You must write a few more articles! Ask @ Beet if he would post …
@Kantman (Comment #322)
Ek hoor jou, en stem saam, indien mens na 1ste spanne kyk. Heelwat gemengde skole (veral die wat finansieel sterk ondersteuning het) kry dit reg om op 1ste, en selfs A-span vlak, die seunsskole aan te vat. Die prentjie lyk egter anders indien mens B- en C-spanne insluit. Ek wonder (met baie respek) of daar 3 co-eds sal wees wat onder die top 30 gelys sal word indien A tot C spanne as maatstaf gebruik word? Selfs die groter skole in Pretoria se C-spanne speel teen laer spanne teen ‘n skool soos Affies, al kompeteer die A-spanne met tye. So ook ‘n co-ed reus soos Monnas, wanneer hul teen GCB speel.
Vir ‘n co-ed om genoeg diepte te he om op C-span vlak op top 30 te kompeteer, moet rugby oor ‘n lang termyn ‘n wesenlike aandeel in fondse, tyd en fokus kry. Indien dit lank genoeg die geval is, verander dit natuurlik die “gemengde” kultuur van die skool. Maar ek se weer: Iewers raak die beursies leeg, of kwaad, of nuwe leiers bring nuwe idees. Dan is dit maar weer back to sqr one. Dit is net my beskeie mening en ek veralgemeen verseker.
So is dit ‘n krisis indien ‘n skool soos Kloof (of Menlo/Garsies/EG/Outeniqua/Noordheuwel/Monnas etc) nie met die seunsskole tot op C-vlak kan kompeteer nie? Nee glad nie. Die DNA tussen ‘n seunsskool en co-ed, as dit by rugby kom, is werelde uitmekaar. Jy slaan die spyker: ‘n Co-ed moet deurlopend realisties wees oor hul rugbyprogram en doelwitte, en seker maak die borge, ouers en OB’s is op dieselfde bladsy.
Jammer vir die opstel, maar hierdie is ‘n SBR-onderwerp wat my geweldig interesseer.
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #318)
Gemengde skole kry dit al vir jare reg om te kompeteer, dit sal nie verander nie. Sommige voorstad skole raak oor tyd dalk bietjie agter, maar baie kom oor tyd weer terug. Regtig geen verskoning vir ‘n skool se rugby om te verdwyn nie – in baie gevalle is die skoolhoof verantwoordelik, in ander het die omgewing se behoeftes te veel verander. As ek na die 30 boonste skole kyk op @beet se ranglys sedert 2010, wys die statistiek dit:
11 gemengde skole (meestal Afrikaans of Afr/Eng)
06 Afrikaanse (Afr/Eng) seunskole
13 Engelse seunskole
Ek verstaan ook nie altyd die beheptheid met hoeveelheid spanne wat ‘n skool in die veld kan stoot nie. As hulle kompeterend is, is dit mos genoeg? As gemengde skool 14 spanne kan lewer (A-C in ouderdomme, A_E in ope spanne), doen hulle uitstekend.
Ek stem wel saam dat ‘n skool moet besluit waar hy wil kompeteer. Nie almal kan Top 30 posisie jaag nie. Die probleem is dalk baie eerder dat almal ranglys posisies jaag as hulle maatstaf, in plaas van hoe hulle presteer in hulle gewigsafdeling.
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #311)
Thanks Trots for clearing that up, once again congrats to all the Boishaaiers for allbthe achievemnets. Was Sean Erasmus not the DOR & coach at the time that all these youngsters came thru. Heard thru a mate of mine whose kid was involved at Craven Week that the boys reapond very well to him & enjoy his coaching. Once again congrats.
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #311)
His rugby definitely went to a new level at BHS in 2021. He was especially good in the game against Grey that year (he was basically an army of one as I remember). At the Bulls he never really got going. In his u17 year in 2019 he only played Academy Week. Also didn’t play Grant Khomo in 2018, from what I can recall.
@wanza_15 (Comment #253)
Massive win for Jeppe, but not unexpected. Their 9-10 combo was the difference for me. The vibe looked amazing on the stream.. poor hookers on the far side! Rugby looks healthy indeed in the city of gold.
@4×4 (Comment #286)
100%
Die skeiding tussen top 30 en die res gaan al hoe groter raak. ‘n Gemengde skool het bloot net nie die diepte om te kompeteer nie (natuurlik is daar paar uitsonderings – ek weet eintlik nie hoe hul dit oor dekades konstant regkry nie). Daar is dalk nommers, maar die fokus is verdeel tussen klomp ander aktiwiteite. Jy gaan nie na ‘n gemengde skool toe om c-span rugby te speel nie.. Selfs die NV-liga wat c-spanne vereis raak ‘n uitdaging. Daar is dalk spelers wat bietjie kom uithelp maar die kwaliteit van die basiese spel is baie ver van hul maats in die a-span af. En ouers (of ander sports-afrigters) steek ook op ‘n stadium ‘n stokkie voor rugby wanneer dit by oop spanne kom. Kanse vir ernstige beserings vir “part-timers” raak net te groot met vandag se kondisionering. Om diepte te “koop”, is bloot nie volhoubaar oor die langtermyn nie. Iewers is of die beursies leeg of kwaad, of die geld kry ander prioriteite.
Die tradisionele seunsskole is eintlik al wat realisties kan oorleef, deur die dik en dun seisoene.
Ek haal my hoed af vir enige co-ed wat tot op C-span vlak in die top 30 kan meeding, maar in my opinie moet dit nie die primere rugby-doelwit van die deursnit co-ed wees nie.
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #316)
Was my spot ook gewees ,het klomp nice mense daar ontmoed….
@Hanswors (Comment #283)
Ongelukkig voel dit vir my of dissipline op en langs SBR velde jaarliks agteruit gaan. Ek was self verlede week by ‘n dag waar my mond oopgehang het oor gedrag en taalgebruik op en langs die veld.
Dis die hoofrede waarom ek vroeg in my seuns se laerskool-dae al besluit het ek vermy die kantlyn en pawiljoene. Ek is op my gelukkigste eenkant agter die pale.
@4×4 (Comment #268)
Ek dink Jaco en die afrigtingspan by Affies se doelwit is juis 2025. Ongelooflike o17-groep wat hul daar het, ook bevestig deur die nommers by die Bulle se o17 asook o18 groepe.
Dit gese, Affies kon baie maklik nr1 geeindig het hierdie jaar. Close games teen beide PR en PGim, asook GCB wat teen die toue was, moes hul net uitklophou gegee het. Ek dink hul gaan volgende jaar ‘n monster-span he.
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #312)
Hy was n yster gewees bly hy werk te veel jong mans besef nie dat dit dalk tyd is om te fokus op n normale lewe nie….hulle bly aan try en tfy en try en donner hulle self net ligaamlik en geestelik op
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #311)
I have no doubt that the quality of his rugby experience at HJS was light years ahead of Sutherland – especially as the latter lose to Affies’ 4th team. However, this is what his father wrote on the Sutherland FB page two years ago: “A year ago Ruan Venter had just finished grade 11 at Sutherland and he was preparing to start his Matric at Paarl Boys High. This weekend he is set to make his senior URC debut for the Lions Rugby Co against the Bulls. As a family we are so grateful for the foundation he received at Sutherland and we stand amazed at the amazing journey that God is taking him on.”
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It seems like Sutherland can claim some of the credit.
@Smallies (Comment #307)
Soos my ouma sou gesê het , hy het ‘n regte werk. Werk in die vrugte bedryf. Was briljant op skoolvlak maar gesukkel met beserings by Sharks.
@yesnomaybe (Comment #309)Hi Yesnomaybe. Thanks for your kind wishes. Regarding Ruan no he came to Boishaai in his matric year and not doing a “ post matric “. He considers himself a Boishaaier and has claimed in many interviews that his rugby really got going in that matric year. I am personally dead against post matrics and I agree that is why it is good that the SA schools and Craven Week are 0/18 tournaments.
@VanniLaeveld (Comment #294) baie geluk met julle uitslae die afgelope twee naweke, sien julle binnekort
……. Soos hy nou genoem het die hantering van n wedstryd na die tyd, magtig was die hantering swak van Monnas na hulle verloor en spesifiek een speler, daar was n post of facebook gewees nie, Ek dink dit was op super sport schools wat nou delete wys duidelik wat het gebeur, Ek self is nie op facebook nie maar dit gekry by n vriend. Wonder of daar met die speler gedeel gaan word of is dit aanvaarbaar (lyk my dit is hoe monnas n verloor hanteer) ? Weereens baie geluk julle verdien dit.
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #305)
Congrats to Paarl Boys with regards to the Boishaaiers in the Bok team. Phenomenal achievement, however, not to rock the boat, but I was led to believe that Venter was at Sutherland High school until Matric then did his post matric at HJS. Maybe I’m misinformed but I’m also sure it was during Covid times so he most probably played less than 5 matches for the 1st side. I’m not saying that its wrong, all I’m saying is surely Sutherland should get mentioned in the conversation. This is the same as Bishops, at teh who claim Benni van der Merwe & Pieter Loubscher as their names are on the honours board at the Piley, however, they were proper Boishaaiers who made the SA Schools team, matriculated at HJS & then completed Post Matric at Bishops. One of the reasons for making 1st team rugby at school for U18’s only.
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #305)
Congrats to Paarl Boys with regards to the Boishaaiers in the Bok team. Phenomenal achievement, however, not to rock the boat, but I was led to believe that Venter was at Sutherland High school until Matric then did his post matric at HJS. Maybe I’m misinformed but I’m also sure it was during Covid times so he most probably played less than 5 matches for the 1st side. I’m not saying that its wrong, all I’m saying is surely Sutherland should get mentioned in the conversation. This is the same as Bishops, at teh who claim Benni van der Merwe & Pieter Loubscher as their names are on the honours board at the Piley, however, they were proper Boishaaiers who made the SA Schools team, matriculated at HJS & then completed Post Matric at Bishops. One of the reasons for making 1st team rugby at school for U18’s only.
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #305)
Wat het van Vian Fourie geword
@brentsw3 (Comment #272)
A couple similarities from the Jeppe home leg that makes me believe that everything always balances out in the end..
The disallowed try for KES that would’ve made it 18 and potentially 20-3 and changed the reflection for me, same as the disallowed try on us that would’ve made the score 12-0 in Kensington and been a very different game in both cases; the other one is both tries on halftime that swung the momentum, as you allude to, Bruwer and Coetzee in the 2 respective games..
These 2 games so easily could have been a home win for Jeppe and KES each.. Momentum and belief are real big things but hey
@Kaya 85 (Comment #299)
There were 5 Boishaaiers in the Bok team : Thomas Du Toit , Salmaan Moerat , Evan Roos , Quan Horn , Ruan Venter .
I agree about Francke and don’t forget Cameron Hanekom.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #299)
That was on the scoreboard, Match was a seriously tuff affair & at 26-20 with about 20 to play & Berg with a 5m scrum on the Gim tryline, things couldve worked out differently. Berg get penalised & carded for a dangerous cleanout. Match changes, however,Credit to Gim who are a seriously well coached & disciplined side. With regards to SA player thing, we all know the regulations & how many players of whatever colour need to be in the team, so I don’t know why people are still having a go, its not the schools fault. Solution is either change the rulings or these top rugby schools need to invest in diversity. With regards to WP selections as far as I’m aware Gim had 4 white players & Berg had 1. Scrummie would’ve made it but got injured before the tournament. The other non white players in the Gim side all made WP except the Flyhalf who had some serious competition in front of him.
…and the Paarl derby will clarify the SA Schoolboy rugby 3rd and 4th strongest of 2024.
Take care gents, speak to you on Tuesday.
Grey College just reminded everyone in SA of their impressive credentials.
The PRG game is now shaping to be the definitive match up for SBR 2024….effectively the de facto cup final.
Affies still THE Big Dogs in North Vaal…
On another note, As well as Jeppe 1st did for their win, about 90% of the day’s games went to the home team, including a closely contested u 16 game..both teams had some big sparks!!
@Old Anker…jammer ou pel…but Lichtenburg has always been able to BRING an A game, even in ‘average’ years. Anker can still win their comp I think.
Well done to…
Nelspruit…two big wins in a week. Strong improvement shows that good coaching and team management is happening at the Rhinos.
Paarl Gim…not restricted to Meneer Markus Muller, but as a previous comment says, with 5 SA Schools players in their ranks Wynberg was beaten very comfortably (on the scoreboard at least).
Congrats to HJS supporters,
How many of your former pupils played for the Boks on the weekend? T du Toit, Quan Horn, Salmaan, Roos…who else? Very impressive. One that Rassie has overlooked but who Kaya rates is Francke Horn…I’m a big fan.
@Ringo (Comment #277)
Definitely would trade the hockey 13 wins for 13 wins of rugby lol. But that is perhaps a knock and an undermining on our hockey and the hard work they put in on a yearly basis – I wouldn’t say this to their faces definitely lol.
@4×4 (Comment #288)
Wat ek nie altyd verstaan nie, as ek net voorbeeld gebruik, Kloof het meer as 500 graad 8’s ingeneem hierdie jaar, hoe is dit dat hulle slegs 3 spanne by o/14 beskikbaar het. Dit voel asof daar defnitief elke jaar net minder en minder seuns wil rugby speel by die gemengde skole. By die seunskole is dit seker meer oor tradisie so meer speel maar dit kan nie goed wees vir skole rugby nie.
@4×4 (Comment #287)
Die vleuel en senter het na die eindfluitjie na mekaar toe gehardloop en paar houe uitgedeel, paar van die skare toe ook sommer ingeklim, weet nie wat die nelspruit vleul vir die monnas vleuel en senter gese het nie, maar hulle was baie ontsteld om so in te hardloop na die game. Maar ek het geen idee wat dit laat veroorsaak het nie, maar persoonlik hou ek nie van sulke dinge in skole rugby nie.
@VanniLaeveld (Comment #294)
Dis nie altyd maklik vir n span wat gewoond wen is om skielik te verloor teen n span wat almal eintlik bietjie miskyk nie…hulle moes dalk laasweek opgelet het in die klas en gesien het dat Nelspruit Garsfontein se sterte geknoop het….
@4×4 (Comment #287)
Hier in die Laeveld is ons gewoond daaraan dat wanneer ons die dag ‘n groot hond se stert knoop, die groot hond die hantering van die wedstryd blameer. Ons seuns en afrigters kry selde krediet vir die wen. Gelukkig het Supersport Schools deesdae opnames van die wedstryde, neutrale waarnemers kan gerus gaan kyk.
@Smallies (Comment #289)
voorspelling is vir my leke-oog maklik, Gim en Grey gaan die ding doen.
@Smallies (Comment #291)
Ja, omtrent so iets, of Wynland watertrok sou Jongmatie sê
Die Gim vs Berg wedstryd het maar die WP/SARU/SA Skole keurders se keuses vreemd laat lyk.
Geluk met jou span se oorwinning ook. Ek sal later die game kyk. Miskien ook die Monnas vs Rhinos een, ‘n uitslag wat my nogal verras het.
Noordheuwel het darem ‘n baie groot indruk hierdie seisoen gemaak.
@Deon (Comment #285)
Is daai wille spanne in die suide bietjie raakgery deur n wynlorrie of vier…
@4×4 (Comment #288)
Affies was nog altyd een van die GROOT HONDE ….
Ek dag dan Monnas doen die praatwerk Saterdae op die veld….net n joke ,weet nie wat in Krugersdorp aangaan nie maar ek glo hulle sal weer terug kom ,die ander spanne wat hulle face gaan dalk moeilikheid he…Dinge begin ook mooi op bou vir die hoogtepunte van die jaar in die kaap,Boishaai en Gim is op die staduim so naby aan mekaar dat ek geen voorspelling gaan waag nie.Grey vs PRG selde storie ….Noord vaal beker is ook wawyd oop met EG en Kloof wat na n moontlike eindstryd begin lyk
@Asterix (Comment #280) ek vertrou jy het regte keuse gemaak vir jou seun, Affies is nie net ‘n skool nie maar ‘n leefwyse. Soos in elke skool is daar maar ‘n paar vrot appels en die Onder 14’s moet vasbyt volgende jaar gaan hulle opselfde spelpeil as die jaar se Onder 15’s wees..die nuwe rugbyprogram en strukture is besig om vrugte af te were, tot so ‘n mate dat ons saam met die groot honde kan blaf
@Asterix (Comment #284) nee ek het nie die video gesien nie, vertel as meer! Ek het net op ander groepe gelees dat die Monnas Ouers baie ontevrede was met hoe die wedstryd hanteer was.
@Hanswors (Comment #283) skole rugby het ongelukkig by ‘n skeipad gekom en moet BL’s en skoolhoofde besin waar hulle skoolprogramme in gaan pas. Die gaping tussen skole raak al hoe groter agv die baie nadelige profesionele era waarin skole rugby hulle bevind.
Kinders word van heine en verre gewerf om die monster (in belang van “geleenthede”) te vul. Seunskole het nie noodwendig die probleem nie omdat hulle uit diepte kan bou, maar gemengde skole moet ongelukkig die beursie nader trek om relevant te wees, in welke gevall hulle ook net gewoonlik goeie A-spanne het en sodra die beserings opduik, duik die seisoen daarmee saam.
Net ‘n interresante opmerking, Kloof se Onder 16 span het as Onder 15’s Affies geklop, so waar sou die verskil inkom? Beteken dit dat Kloof die Menlo pad gaan volg en die Kloof-Affies derby gaan afskaf, en dat die Top 15 skole in die land dan teen mekaar in ‘n superliga speel…dalk is dit die roete wat skolerugby gaan volg
N1 Covid for the Southern Suburb schools again. Well done Winelands 4.
Garsfontein vs Noordheuwel, what a game!!!!
Well done Jeppe.
@Hanswors (Comment #283)
Jy is reg, daar is altyd 3 kante maar ek kan skegs kommentaar lewer oor wat ek beleef het. Die hele jaar speel hulle met baie diepte maar die ander skole respekteer mekaar op die veld, en gister het ek dit nie gesien nie, net om te noem ek verwys glad nie na die Kloof se 1ste span nie, veral op die B en C veld. Maar Kloof bly ‘n uitstekende skool so kom ons los dit maar daar.
#281 Jy wat teleurgesteld was met Kloof se vuilspel. Ek was net so teleurgesteld met die taal wat uit die Affies se eerstespan speler se mond uit gekom het toe hy te laat was om een van Kloof se seuns te keer om n drie te druk. Daar was baie toeskouers agter die pale en veral jong seuntjies wat langs die veld gesit het wat dit gehoor het. Die drie is nie toegeken nie.
Mens moet versigtig wees om nie net te sien wat jy wil sien nie, daar is altyd jou mening , my mening en die waarheid.
Affies het dood eenvoudig net te veel diepte en n oormaat van goeie spelers.
Die groot tellings is egter nie goed vir skolerugby nie.
Queens 21-6 Selborne. Well done to Queens. Selborne were nowhere to be seen. Going to be big test against Dale in EL next weekend.
So gepraat van vuilspel, het jy die video gesien van Nelspruit en monument na die eindfluitjie, dit is totaal onaanvaarbaar.
@4×4 (Comment #278)
Vir my is daar ‘n verskil tussen hard speel en vuilspeel. Ek het dit ook genoem toe Affies teen Paul Roos gespeel het by Noord suid. Rugby is nie meer soos wat dit 30 jaar terug was toe ons carlton en koshuis rugby gespeel het nie. Hierdie is my 1ste jaar betrokke by Affies rugby en die respek wat ek vir skole soos Kes, Jeppe, Grey en Maritz college, is ongelooflik. Die games was soms hard maar in die regte gees gespeel. Die bly by mekaar as mens toer etc.
Ons het Kloof baie sterk oorweeg vir hierdie jaar, maar vir my wat baie uitgesien het na vandag en vroeg daar was en baie games gekyk het was ek persoonlik baie teleurgesteld met van hulle spelers se optredes in van die games. Maar soos jy tereg noem, daar is baie besonderse kinders in meeste skole so mens kan nie hulle almal onder een kamp skeer nie.
Persoonlik kan ek nie wag vir volgende week teen die skool oorkant die pad se derby nie.
@4×4 (Comment #278)
💪🏻
@Asterix (Comment #276) Ek moet darem opkom vir die Kloof Seuns…baie van daardie spesie in my huis gehad en nog steeds. Vriende van my seun. Moet sê baie stand up young gentlemen…hulle los die bloed op die veld en kuier later saam! My seun was 2017 in matriek toe Kloof gewen het…was die langste dag/nag in ons lewe. Die manne het besluit om die wen in te vryf en by ons huis opgedaag vir ‘n braai
@wanza_15 (Comment #253)
Glad the boys remained composed and made your visit to what appeared to be a tense Houghton today 😬…. it was nice that Matt could have such a great game ….. but all the boys fronted nicely today Andre Poulton was immense …. that line break by Rasima was the stuff of legend….. the world is just a much better place when we win ….. @Roger we could make a deal we will gladly trade you 13 straight years of Rugby wins for hockey …… crazy that I have seen a third of the Jeppe wins against KES nine wins and two draws ….. seriously could we get at least 3 in a row
@4×4 (Comment #271)
Die kloof het darem probeer om al die fights te wen, maar dit ook nie eintlik reggekry nie, in meeste games sodra hulle ver agter raak het hulle met ander dinge begin. Maar ek verstaan dit is maar elke jaar se storie met kloof.
Ek nie so seker dit was die Affies seuns nie, want Kloof het nie eintlik vir hulle plek op die pawiljoen geallokeer om te sit nie, meeste van die seuns moes op die gras sit.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #258)
Jeppe on point today! That pack was up for it! Really impressive!
@VanniLaeveld (Comment #250)
What an amazing result?!! Well done Nellies!!!
@wanza_15 (Comment #253)
Well done bruv, that was a proper Jeppe performance! I thought Coetzee was magnificent, player of the match by some margin. That try bang on half time was as decisive as was the Beiling try on half time in the away leg. Anyway, better side won on the day. Good luck for DHS, I’m hoping to see the Black and White close out the season with an away win. It’s been a fantastic season!!
@IemandOnbelangrik (Comment #270) volgens jou kommentaar kan daar seker ‘n redelike afleiding gemaak word dat Kloof darem iets gewen het vandag, die pawiljoen skoonmaak kompetisie. Baie geluk met julle uitnemendheid!
@Loubser (Comment #262)
Affies se seuns het definitief die oorwinning vandag geniet. Die toestand van die pawiljoen na die wedstryd het soos Loftus na ‘n Sundowns wedstryd gelyk. Denysschen het nou net ‘n nuwe skoolsaal gebou en na vandag is ‘n nuwe pawiljoen op die agenda. Ek wonder of hy vir Mnr. Joynt ‘n ou faktuurtjie gaan forward.
@4×4 (Comment #268)
Affies was nog altyd een van die GROOT honde ….altans vir die regte groot honde was hulle nog altyd n groot hond
@Smallies (Comment #263)
8 Graad 11′ in die 1ste span en 12 in die beginspan by die 2des….lekker probleem om te hê vir die afrigters vir volgende jaar. Dink hulle behoort weer kompeterend te wees teen did Groot Honde volgende jaar
Wat het hulle verander in die Nelspruit manne se dieet na Julie vakansie?
Volkskool Heidelberg winning this week by beating Hugenote Springs with 1 point. Must have been a cracker. Volkskool Heidelberg losing narrowly against Die Anker last week. Two weeks of nail-biting games for their supporters and the East Rand Schools. Good competition
@wanza_15 (Comment #231)
Mate your comment aged like fine wine well done ,this Jeppe team is pure class
@wanza_15 (Comment #253)
Just seen the score – congrats Jeppe, especially as KES were 13-3 up! I love that this fixture is a true rivalry again. Between 1960 and 2009 Jeppe only beat KES 9 (NINE) times (if you can believe that)!! Since 2010 it’s pretty much egalite. Congrats again – and I believe KES 1st team hockey beat Jeppe for the first time in 13 years! Well done!
@Loubser (Comment #262)
Jissie ek het gedink dit gaan baie closer wees….maar by gese Afgies het n maneer span die jaar…
KLOOF DREAM TEAM TO BEAT AFFIES THIS YEAR!
AFFIE-RUGBY
20 JULIE 2024
AFFIES TEEN WATERKLOOF
UITSLAE
Affie 1stes wen
🏉43 – 28
Affies 2des wen
🏉84 – 3
Affies 4des wen WK 3des
🏉38 – 5
Affies 7des wen WK 4des
🏉26 – 0
Affies 8stes wen WK 5des
🏉47 – 5
Affies 9des wen WK 6des
🏉29 – 14
Affies 16A wen
🏉38 – 21
Affies 16B
🏉54 – 7
Affies 16 E wen WK 16C
🏉31 – 0
Affies 15A wen
🏉64 – 13
Affies 15B wen
🏉52 – 17
Affies 15E verloor WK
🏉15C 7 – 9
Affies 15F verloor WK 15D
🏉12 – 15
Affie 14A wen
🏉26 – 10
Affies 14B wen
🏉53 – 19
Affies 14E wen WK 14C
🏉73 – 0
@Snelvuur (Comment #254)
Paul Roos het na n hoeer rat oorgeskakel. Die samespel tussen voor en agterspelers is baie beter. Pak is tops.
Battle of the Greys,dankie Grey high mens kan sien die twee skole het die selde DNA dankie Grey high dis altyd special om julle te jol…long may this continue….
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #256)
Gaan verseker taai wees. Veld is baie swaar en reën word vir Saterdag voorspel, so toestande kan bepalend wees op die dag
@wanza_15 (Comment #253)
Nice win…well deserved for the Black & White. KES will rue the dropped ball on the overlap with try line open midway in 2nd half…
Nice chip and gather by Jeppe’s 10 to score in the 1H….
KES’s SA Schools 6 looks out injured for medium term.
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #251)
A hard physical game. Boishaai took their chances and never missed a kick while SACS didn’t. I was impressed with 6, 12, 15 of Boishaai and 3, 8, 13 of SACS.
@Ploegskaar (Comment #255)
Well done. Next Saturday will be nail biting.
Landbou 27 Rondebosch 22. Landbou scored in the last play of the game to clinch it, so credit to the boys for never going away. Bosch will feel this is one that got away though, as they had a poor day off the tee. They are really a well coached and structured side, so credit to the Landbou players and coaches who got the job done
PAUL ROOS 42-7 BISHOPS
KES 13-25 JEPPE
Man of the match is definitely our prop Andre Poulton, he was in that tall prop of KES’ head.
Thought we handled the big moments very well, when we were under pressure, the boys were cool. Matthew at 10 had a WAAAAAAAY improved performance than the one in Kensington. I enjoyed our 9 Sithole as well. Just generally very proud of them..
Bed time for KES is 8pm sharp, the streets are ours.
@VanniLaeveld (Comment #250)
Verskoning, Rhinos 21 – Monnas 12.
Boishaai 20- Sacs 12
Nelspruit Rhinos 22 – Monument 12
Grassy
You’ll always be Mr SBR
Grey High speel lekker
@Kantman (Comment #243) Sacs is a very well coached team and the heavy and wet field is an equaliser. I hope we can pull it through but I predict low score game and 2 point winning margin for whoever wins.
@wanza_15 (Comment #233)
I have decided – ek skree vir Jeppe môre.
Was there during Academy week and I loved the grounds.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #236)
100% – Dit is waaroor skole rugby gaan.
@FullBackWing (Comment #237)
Die Kloof pak voorspelers kry nie die krediet wat hulle toekom nie
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #241)
Suspect you are closet SACS 😉, trying to lure HJS into complacency.
That SACS team has lots of guts
@Kaya 85 (Comment #240)
Tuis veld voordeel vir beide …
@Kaya 85 (Comment #36)
SACS forward pack wont be able to live with Boishaai, particularly in the front row. Paarl Boys’ SA Schools prop duo will prove too much for the SACS props to handle. Some great predictions otherwise🙌
@Roger (Comment #199)
Mind you, North Vaal Bowl comp has Potch Volkies playing in Piet Retief this weekend…that’s 900km round trip…and NV Cup has Monnas at Nelspruit almost 800km round trip.
@FullBackWing (Comment #237)
Go Klofies!! Like you, I was also a hybrid player…85 = number 8 and number 5.
@Grant (Comment #227)
Yes definitely see u there…$#!+ my water’s out again.
I have done a fair bit of reading this blog, I find it extremely interesting ( but for all the arguments that are non-rugby) and insightful. Ek geniet @Kaya se predictions en al die banter. Een van die grootste games hierdie naweek, vir my, is Kloof/Affies. Kloof staan beslis n kans om vir Affies te upset die naweek. Verlede jaar het baie mense gesê Kloof se 1e span het n kans om Affies te wen, en even Affie ondersteuners was versigtig om te veel te sê, maar die 2024 1e span is besonders.
@TJ (Comment #230)
Yes, I think it’s a very nice fixture that. Long may it continue.
@wanza_15 (Comment #231)
Big statement Wanza…but I think your boys can do it… maybe.
I’m looking forward to seeing the u 14 A’s also…the KES lads who played Stade Francais or was it Racing Metro u14 few weeks ago….
I’m a big oke with a walking stick if u see me.
@wanza_15 (Comment #233)
One of the best feelings in life is beating your biggest opponents in their own back yard …
@Smallies (Comment #232)
I will be there, many others don’t like that trip but for me we must brave the hostility, the same one we dished out to them in Kensington. Time for us to face the music, no running!
@wanza_15 (Comment #231)
I’ll tell you tomorrow afternoon how this comment aged…
Tomorrow we descend upon 44 St Patricks, and at 13:15 it will be the start of an eradication job. Everything wearing red will be eradicated, we are taking that school over, there’s nothing else to it. We will beat King Edward, and we will take over the field – because in actual fact, it is ours, like the city.
These will be the events of tomorrow.
All We See Is Black and White
@OUD ANKER (Comment #220)
It was one massive game where both sides definitely gave it their all. College hung in and gave Affies one almighty fright. Last weeks match shows why the interchange between the two schools is so important.
@Roger (Comment #199)
They do, roughly 2k per boy for the next two weekends. Houghton ridge is going to be hostile next weekend that’s for sure for us lads from the Last Outpost.
@OUD ANKER (Comment #223)
Laas week het Affies sonder 3 van hulle vaste 5 gespeel wat beseer was, baie van die seuns was ook die vakansie betrokke met provinsiale en SA skole spanne, persoonlik dink ek hulle was effens geroes as ‘n span en het hulle College dalk bietjie onderskat. Ek dink college het aan hulle kant seker hulle beste wedstryd van die jaar gespeel, dit was ‘n uitstekende wedstryd.
Ek glo Affies is reg vir more, ek dink hierdie is seker een van Waterkloof se sterkste spanne in ‘n baie lang tyd en is eintlik baie onder die radar, maar ek dink Affies gaan wen met 12, of moet ek liewers se hoop
@Kaya 85 (Comment #219)
Ditto. Hope you going to Houghton tomorrow. Enjoy the day if you are
@Roger (Comment #191)
I’m going for the 2nd away win this year in this fiercely contested proper old school derby…I went for Jeppe during round 1 and I’m sticking with Jeppe for round 2…therefore KES won away and Jeppe will win away….Jeppe by less than 5
Charlie Hofmeyr met 20, Oakdale met 30, Boland Landbou met 10, PRG met 30, GCB met 30, Affies met 15, Gim met 10.
Die raaisel en vir my die belangrikste wedstryd van die naweek is Garsfontein vs Noordheuwel. Ek dink Garsfontein, veral op hulle tuisveld.
Die Wes-Kaap wedstryde is moeiliker om te voorspel en die punte verskille, veral by PRG vs Bishops, gaan baie kleiner wees as verwag met die Noordwes wind wat al weer pomp.
@OUD ANKER (Comment #223)
Ja Kloof het n lekker span die jaar ek dink egter hulle gaan net net nie genoeg vir Affies he nie
@Smallies (Comment #221)
Dit gaan ‘n riller wees! Affies is laas week goed raak gery deur College en as Affies nie 100% gaan fokus Saterdag nie kan daar ‘n helse verrassing wag op hulle. Hierdie 2024 Waterkloof span is nie jou speel maatjie nie.
@Grasshopper (Comment #216)
Sir Hopper, I notice you are fully bilingual, you speak both English and Profanity fluently…by the way…this comment is not meant as a compliment.
@OUD ANKER (Comment #220)
Dink Affies se pak gaan die knoop deurhak vir hulle in die 2de helfte
@TJ (Comment #198)
The College/Affies game last week was in my opinion one hell of a game and a humdinger for the ages!! I thnk both College and Affies are in for really tough games on Saturday both away, Affies at Waterkloof (who has a very very underestimated and dangerous team this year), while College travelling up to Boys High where Brooks is never an easy place to go and win! My predictions for these two games, Affies by 5-8 and College….drum roll… by 5-8.
@Grant (Comment #184)
yes nearby, luckily water’s back.
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #217)
Agree
Too far GH (#217)… Remember this blog is far all to see, including kids also following SBR. I have been on here long enough to know that your posts the last week does not align with your level-headed insights I have come to enjoy the last couple of years. If you don’t enjoy chatting about SA SRB anymore then maybe it is the right choice to take a break for a while. Why hang around here if you are constantly fighting about non-rugby stuff? The only outcome is fewer SBR-engagement (currently happening), which means beet’s well-established blog is getting damaged.
@Deon (Comment #216)
Thanks Deon the Doos, double D! May the doos be with you!
@Grasshopper (Comment #207)
Mag jou paaie gelyk bly loop Grassy. Voorspoed.
@Grant (Comment #214)
Why don’t you grow some balls and contact me directly, let’s have a chat. Be a man and not keyboard warrior BUT alas you are a coward…I’ll wait for the email…
@Grasshopper (Comment #211)
You win that one too , Al. 🤣🤌🏼
@Grasshopper (Comment #211)
@tzavosky (Comment #212)
Bog. The legend.
@Smallies (Comment #201)
Dit smaak my as @BOG terugkom op die blog sal dit ‘n vars briesie wees!
@Grant (Comment #210)
The kak is stronger with Grant….knob!
@Grasshopper (Comment #207)
The hubris is strong with the Alan …@Grasshopper (Comment #207)
@Roger (Comment #208)
Thanks for the support buddy, NOT….an old foe not supporting me, just shows…
@Grasshopper (Comment #207) Don’t hit your head on the way out
@Grant (Comment #204)
Thanks Grant, I never said that. It’s what Saffas think of SA 👍. Best beaches, best people, best mountains, best wood, best rugby, best everything…the world is bigger than SA….travel opens the mind & shows how narrow minded that is…..anyway. Expect more condescending posts in Afrikaans just because I have a different view. I mean the one post about who can piss the furtherest, the irony in that. Adult men on a school boy rugby blog reminiscing about the glory days & harping on about how great their school team is, think about it, that’s childish. Grown men talking Kak on a blog. I think it’s time to act my age & leave now. The majority will love that, they can wallow in their own back patting…bye
@tompirracas (Comment #198)
He not at St Albans school…try again…
@Roger (Comment #200)
Here by me in the semi-platteland my boys often travel 170-ish km’s to the rugby game on Saturday, play, 170 km back, go surf, then socialize, next day the 100 km or so to Cape Town or Stellenbosch for club hockey, back for surfing etc., all while devouring an ox. Expensive and tiring (to me, not to them it seems)
@Grasshopper (Comment #197)
Ok Alan. You are bigger , better, faster , stronger etc etc Well done Al …
@BoishaaiPa (Comment #107)
Ek stem.
Dis soos laerskool seuns wat kyk wie die verste kan pis.
Ek kom al hoe minder hier.
@Roger (Comment #200)
Our local school asks like R30 transport…
@tompirracas (Comment #198)
Now isn’t that ironic…🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍great detective work…
@TJ (Comment #199)
Wow – these inter schools must cost a fortune – bussing over 1000 boys and staff back and forth, and College do it two weeks in a row! Tough to repeat all that next week and get the win at KES on Reunion day !
@Kaya 85 (Comment #162)
Yes, that is correct. Technically it’s the 3rd weekend in a row as the boys from Lynwood came down to us with the same amount.
@Grasshopper (Comment #197)
Yesterday on the “School fixtures & results – week ending 13 July 2024” thread you wrote that your son is ‘probably going to a school here which is 600 years old’. But here you say your ‘boys (sic) school turns 650 years old this year’. It seems strange to switch between the two statements.
A man in your position – well-paid, happy, with great access to wonderful meat and some of the best beaches known to man but also a keen interest in history – might fancy sending his son to St Albans school, which is over 1,000 years old. It’s also the alma mater of England’s only ever Pope, as well as Stephen Hawking.
@wanza_15 (Comment #195)
All these folk stories & legends sound exactly like Durbans great derby, unfortunately case to the bin by one Mr Pinhierho who’s ego is as big as Deon’s! The DHS vs Glenwood derby would be 105 years or more today, in 1910 it involved some teachers & Siyabonga Tom was there to tell the story. KES vs Jeppe is a spring chicken derby! My boys school turns 650 years old this year…..sorry Wynberg 😂
@Roger (Comment #191)
Gave up sauce over a month ago, did my first official 10 k last week, a few more booked. Lost 6kg in 8 weeks….all clear
What we are told is how bad we were in the 2000s, and bad in general as a school. Stole a win in 02 or 03 in the second of a double header I believe but Jeppe was bad..
We were spoilt in my particular tenure at Jeppe. In Grade 8, despite being better on paper, everyone around us was wary of KES but not particularly us, simply because we didn’t know. We won the u14A game thanks to last minute penalty, and then Simelane and Greene and them won the 15A game. And then the 1s won, also a close game, 15-12. I remember one of the matrics that year telling me to cherish days like this, it’s not often we win at KES, even if we are better than them. In one ear and out the other lol.
I sat and thought to myself what he was smoking according to maive me, we were gonna til I’m done with school, yes, 5 in a row (would’ve been 6 actually because we won in 2012 as well, the whole Marx SA Schools thing)
But how things change and the script flips. Draw in 2014 as heavy favourites (nearly lost but for the crossbar)
Lost in 2015, ok, the heavy hitters were in Stellenbosch at SA Schools
Won in 2016, they owed it to us lol, but it was quite convincing
And then lost in my matric year 2017 in a game not even God could not have helped us win, in what was a very different team that won the u14A game in 2013, different mentally and even quite literally, 9 changes to the guys that started in grade 8. And KES dug in to their pockets over the years as well leading up. I’ve learnt a lot about this derby, I move with a lot more wisdom now. I’d rather not be the favourite, particularly away. If the team is overwhelming better than KES and the game is at home, then I’ll have the favourites cap, those are 2016 and 2018 teams, no matter the venue we’d have won those games, but anything “slight”, I want to not be a part of lol.
@Roger (Comment #190)
Affies 2nds drew 17-17 with the Cherries. Week later beat the X-men 17-10… X-men 2nd game of the season was a 48-12 loss to the Cherries. So yeah, they’ve grown in stature as the season has progressed. Had Noordheuwel and the Cherries been mid season fixtures we might well have seen a reversal of those results, definitely the Noordheuwel fixture…
@Roger (Comment #190)
Lost to Noordheuwel in the opening game of the season. Tough opening fixture, they lost it in the dying moments on the back of a piss poor referring decision. Then got pumped by the Cherries. As one does but since then they’ve looked pretty much invincible. 1 score loss to Affies too… a game they were in control of for long periods…
@brentsw3 (Comment #160)
Early ‘90’s when Jake was coach Jeppe chalked up a few wins but the late nineties and noughties were a lean period for them too – and from 1999-2004 KES were super kuk so Jeppe must have been terrible 😞
@Grasshopper (Comment #189)
Are you on the sauce pal?
@brentsw3 (Comment #161)
They will give Saints a klap – I think the X Men would beat Saints easily. This is one of the best KES 2nd XV’s I’ve seen in a long time. Have they lost yet ?
It’s so interesting when you ask the keyboard warriors out, very few actually attend. Done it a few times, only real legends arrive. The likes of Deon whimper away.
@Grant (Comment #186)
Great Grant, when I’m back in SA let’s catch up & you can tell me in person 👍
@Grasshopper (Comment #175)
My name is Grant , Alan.
@Grasshopper (Comment #178)
Ditto Alan. Ditto.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #150)
Kaya; do you live in Bedfordview by any chance. …. ? As you have been waterless for three days … ?
@brentsw3 (Comment #182)
Clever like the rest of us expats 😂😉😃
@Kaya 85 (Comment #180)
Seems he played until around 2018, got married, got a job in finance and immigrated to Netherlands.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #180)
No idea pal… Probably had to work for a living…
@brentsw3 (Comment #174)
Do u know what happened to him?
@brentsw3 (Comment #174)
Yes that sounds right…
@Grant (Comment #170)
Come tell me in person like an adult & refrain from silly childish gestures…keyboard warrior deluxe
@Kaya 85 (Comment #171)
Best lock I’ve seen at school level down that side was Eduard Zandberg then JD Schickerling a close 2nd. Moerat is ok…
@Kaya 85 (Comment #166)
I was told the Monnas chicks were the best!
@Grant (Comment #170)
Who the F are you!?
@Kaya 85 (Comment #171)
Was it Ruben de Villiers?
@Kaya 85 (Comment #171)
Moerhard was a beast in that Boishaai team …
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #87)
…was it 2015?
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #87)
I don’t know if you remember that HJS team when Salmaan was in 1sts….who was his lock partner? That guy was equally scary…two massive huge powerful and athletic units slammed into Monnas non stop that day…dragging flanks, centres, everybody metres and metres in one of the most physical SBR games ive ever seen, they were leading like 21 -0 after 20 mins, then same at halftime…only for Monnas to hang in their and slog their way back with guts, grit and stubbornness in the 2nd half…final score: HJS 21 – 20 Monnas.
Geeeez. Alan. Shut up. Please 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@Hanswors (Comment #105)
Yes agree the U20s is so disappointing…
@wanza_15 (Comment #115)
I think your boys can take it Saturday.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #166)
There’s that also ne…need to impress the ladies.
@Smallies (Comment #156)
Factor in home ground advantage…
And the lads need to impress the Klofie girls to get Matric Dance dates!
@Kaya 85 (Comment #163)
Too soon bro….
@Grasshopper (Comment #158)
Their 1sts are starting to buckle under the strain of a ridiculously long season. They lost to KES at the beginning of the season, then went 13 wins on the trot followed by 3 losses. The tail end of their arduous season is also happens to be the most loaded part of their season. Very good side, stacked with super stars but severely over worked now (me thinks), bordering on child abuse.
@brentsw3 (Comment #161)
Lambs?….eish bro, Lambs to the slaughter…
Maritzburg at Pretoria Boys could be interesting…
MC went toe to toe with the Affies bulle…now to see if PBHS can hold them will tell us a lot about the Candies’ progress in the season. They’ve definitely toughened up a lot since March…
Is this right? Maritzburg are bringing the whole school up to GP this weekend, and then doing it all over again to play KES next week?? 2 x 1100 round trips in the space of 8 days…
@Kaya 85 (Comment #159)
Correct, then Wynberg 2nds and Grey High 1sts apparently… very cool to have these international schools touring. I see Paarl Boys beat Lambs of England 67-0, yesterday evening too?
@Grasshopper (Comment #153)
Double header is quite a recent thing, first played in 1935 yes, 70s, 80s, 90s was a period of KES dominance.
@brentsw3 (Comment #155)
I believe so…apparently they playing v St Stithians 1st XV on Saturday
@Smallies (Comment #156)
I’ve heard Noories are packing a punch too these days
@brentsw3 (Comment #155)
School sides in the UK are not the strongest, it’s all in the clubs. Harrow, Whitgift, Wellington, Brighton, Sedbergh etc not bad but at best 2nd team level for a school outside of the Top 20.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #154)
I also think Kloof Affies will be a humdinger of a match …Both schools are in very good form this year….however I do think the Affies pack will get the upperhand and they should swing the game towards Affies in the second half…
@Kaya 85 (Comment #150)
That Welsh side has some pedigree too. 3 or 4 Welsh U18’s and ranked 2nd nationally. No mean feat knocking them over.
And then Waterkloof v Affies…another potential humdinger…after watching the Maritzburg-Affies highlights I also get the sense that Affies are going to run it….giving Klofies an open game…another 55+ game (combined points).
Good luck all the lads, this is the time of year when you are fit, battle hardened, well drilled and ready for glory.
Let’s enjoy the fireworks…can’t wait!!
Lastly, I’m hoping for a Marais Viljoen comeback sometime soon…I had an older cousin went there in the 1980s…he gave me his first team jersey, it was so big for me reached my knees…I wore it for more than 10 years…eventually kept it neatly folded away, then returned it to him in his late 30s…what a happy surprise, but that old blue MV jersey was ripped and sewn and patched so many times…always be special for me.
@brentsw3 (Comment #138)
Quite one sided but probably most wins early days. I find it weird it’s been played under 100 times, was it once a year before? Also probably only started in the 1930s. My wife’s grandad played in the KES 1942 team before being shipped off to Italy in the war…
@Kaya 85 (Comment #151)
V8 who’s cam timing is out thats Garsfontein for me this year
Garsfontein v Noordheuwel could really be a cracking game. Although the Bere lost on the road last week to Nelspruit…if they come back hard, they could still put 40 points on Noordheuwel. Only problem is that NH with those strike runners could also put 40 + points on Garsies. So expect a very high scoring game…I initially predicted 30 -33…but it could go much higher…I’m thinking 70 – 80 points in TOTAL, so might not be a day for the big D.
Would love to hear some inside news from the Bere supporters, c’mon Djou and boys give us the news…you still got a potent outfit there.
Good evening gentlemen..
Been without running water 3 going 4 days here in this part of Gauteng…eish it takes a toll.
Re KES v Jeppe… I saw the KES firsts at practice yesterday…they looking v sharp and toned…in a word ‘professional’.
BTW, KES 2nds (Xmen) and 3rds played games against a very tough school from Wales on Wed, followed by a pleasant get-together and braai. Those Welsh boys are real rugby folk through and through. Coaches down to earth, was pleasantly surprised how well they got on with the Safricans…Thoroughly enjoyable.
I feel the KES – Jeppe might not live up to the first matchup this year…but I sense Jeppe can take it…after comfortably defeating Monnas last week and handling that pack, Jeppe are favourites in my view…
I’m getting there early, coffee, breakfast rolls, scones…u14, u16, 2nds and 1st XV a minimum programme of events for me.
@Deon (Comment #146)
Deon = plank = no point.
@Kantman (Comment #145)
Ja toemaar pel ek is klaar gepraat met die ou….ek hoop nie die games in die kaap word weer gekaseleer nie,sal nie help vir die opbou na Augustus se hoogtepunt nie
@Kantman (Comment #145)
Party beledigings moet net beantwoord word. Ignoreer dit net as ons dit doen.
Ek is bitter spyt oor die weer, sou graag PRG teen Bishops wou sien op droeë veld. Ek sien al sedert die begin van die seisoen uit.
Tot Saterdagaand, geniet.
@Grasshopper (Comment #143)
And how does this essay address the points I made?
@beet – can we have a mute button please?
Die weer is ‘n groot gelykmaker hierdie week in die Kaap, soos reeds genoem. Daar is paar spanne wat hulle sesioen sal wil draai, en speel teen spanne wat hulle seisoen hoog wil afsluit. Ek verwag sterk senuwees in laaste 5 minute van wedstryde gaan nodig wees.
Ek hoor niks van die Noordvaal manne nie, kan nie glo KES vs Jeppe oorskadu Affies/Waterkloof of Garsfontein/Noordheuwel nie. Raak die reeks afgewater?
@Grasshopper (Comment #101) I think no such thing about myself, just teaching you something, and I can tell the difference between a true data scientist, a self-identifying one, and one who “works in data science” as you understand little about verifying data.
In my profession I do not apply for a job, in many but not all ways, and do not search Linkedin or whatever you mentioned, it works very different, and I only worked for someone else like you blue collar guys the first six years in the job market. My clients come to me to apply. We deem those “working in data science” as cheap labour. I would not mind being paid as cheap labour by the Brits by the way, as long as I can live here and do every day what many British executives work for all year in that 75% grey shithole only to spend three weeks doing the same.
See, it is easy to be a boks like you.
@Deon (Comment #139)
Jeez you clueless! College, Hilton, Michaelhouse, DHS & Glenwood were playing annual derbies before the Cape Schools, especially in the Paarl. Glenwood have played College around 160 times. The College 150th derby match at College is considered one of the best schoolboy matches of all time. You probably watched Glenwood vs Cornwall High on a Weds evening at 6pm. People in Durban lock themselves up before dark for safety. My worst was Boishaai vs Kwaggas at Brug Street, the great Dewald Human year, honestly, 500 supporters max! Old Anton Leonard shouting orders. Probably 5 or 6 future Boks played that day & a Scotsman of course. Another was BishBosch, finished & klaar by 2pm, that’s when the 2nd team play in KZN and the crowds start building. House vs Hilton, unique atmosphere. DHS vs Glenwood, I was highly disappointed by the Paarl Derby too, lacked the school field atmosphere in a stadium @ weird walking around of placards with players faces on them, like they are gods. Boishaai with Corne Krige at Glenwood in 1991 was amazing, proper Ascension Weekend game with 3 points in it…but everyone has an opinion & yours will always be opposite to mine 💪, good. All agreeing is boring
@Deon (Comment #140)
I have 7x Bok jerseys from different eras & 3x Irish jerseys plus 3 Sharks, one Munster & one Leinster jersey, make what you wish of that. Once a Saffa always a Saffa, but some local hypocrites like you see people who leave as traitors, not that its usually for economic & safety reasons….but its like debating with a 2 year old with you…
@Grasshopper (Comment #124)
They did not look fine being pushed back a country mile for a penalty try in the first test. Boys vs men who never won the RWC
@Grasshopper (Comment #113)
You do not support SA, Mr forked tongue lol
@Grasshopper (Comment #108)
I watched three SBR games in KZN in 2012, one at Glenwood, against Kearsney and I felt like I was in Bonteheuwel, Phillipi or Grassy Park, and never ever in those three games did I experience any gees, completely forgettable. Apart from schoolkids there were about 5 people at Dixons.
In the WP, unlike KZN, we play our rugby on the field, not in the bartent or on blogs, the reason it took Natal 100 years to win a Currie Cup at the dawn of the professional era.
I also much later watched a Northwood vs Kearsney game and the only gees I saw there was a man mountain wanting to donner a schoolkid. Much worse than Boland club rugby.
@Grasshopper (Comment #135)
Played 96, KES 62, Jeppe 28, draws 6…. home or away KES is formidable. This Jeppe side though?? I’m veeeeeeery nervous for Saturday… just saying…
@wanza_15 (Comment #115)
1 score game pal. Having said that, if Jeppe win by 10-12 I won’t be at all surprised!
Ref, unfortunately, will always have a bearing on the outcome. That is the nature of the beast. Just a question of the 50/50 calls and what impact they have? Sometimes it’s minor, sometimes it results in points. When it is the latter and your team is the one conceding points, it is difficult to accept. Expecting impartiality from KES/Jeppe Old Boys is like expecting warm beer to taste refreshing. Where there is passion and love, there is sometimes pain and heartsore. Good luck to you and yours…
@Roger (Comment #130)
KES by 3
@Roger (Comment #132)
OK, let’s talk about Jeppe vs KES, KES win no matter how strong Jeppe is seems to be the gist of it…
@Smallies (Comment #133)
HAHAHAH, it was said tongue in cheek, someone on here said the UK was a Muslim country. Calm yourself down to a panic…
@Grasshopper (Comment #127)
Dude tell me you didn’t just go there….shame on you discriminating against people like that…Meth abuse is a WORL WIDE problem and do not discriminate based on color like you just did……nee fok man ons werk ons gatte af om met alle mense in ons land reg te kom dan kom maak jy so n kak aanmerking ,sies man die was die laaste keer dat ek met jou praat loop kak man ….fokkit ons land het nie assholes soos jy nodig nie ,dankie tog jy het gefokkof
@Grasshopper (Comment #131)
it’s not schoolboy rugby – the clue is in the website’s name
@Roger (Comment #130)
Is Ireland vs the Boks not rugby?
@wanza_15 (Comment #115)
nice attempt to try and get the conversation back to schoolboy rugby but alas, I fear these fellas are too far down the rabbit (or Hopper) hole.
Ref/schmef – the Reds by 10. I hope I don’t put a hex on them, but I don’t believe Jeppe have beaten KES at KES too often? It’s a hard place to win!!
@Smallies (Comment #128)
Away from home at the end of a long season without Hugo Keenan, Jamison Gibson Park, Dan Sheehan, Mack Hansen, Bundee Aki and Jack Conan…….ja…..eye roll…
@Grasshopper (Comment #121)
Mate for the last week you’ve been telling us just how exceptional England is in every sfere of our existence….oh yes exept for lifting heavy stuff,but then you Englishmen have always been notoriously weak…
@Grasshopper (Comment #123)
Yea mate they dominated us to the extent that they managed to eak out a 1 point win
@Smallies (Comment #126)
What Tik are you smoking, the stuff from the very non Muslim parts of Grassy Park, Phillipi and Bonteheuwel? No I wasn’t talking about the English rugby team, I’m not English and you might find the likes of Eddie Hall, Mark Felix and Stoltman brothers will arm curl Eben like a dumbell….
@Grasshopper (Comment #121)
Mate for the last week you’ve been telling us just how exceptional England is in every sfere of our existence….oh yes exept for lifting heavy stuff,but then you Englishmen have always been notoriously weak…
@Smallies (Comment #122)
Listen to these guys carefully; https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/watch-questions-answers-rassies-boks/
@Smallies (Comment #122)
Not sure what rose tinted glasses you were watching from, scrum penalties are a lottery at best. The Irish looked fine and they are not known for a great scrum.
@Smallies (Comment #122)
The Boks were shell shocked and pommeled in the 2nd test, blood everywhere. The mighty Eben was taught a lesson…Caelen Doris running through like a knife through butter…
@Grasshopper (Comment #120)
Dude 5 scrum penalties in the second half ….a penalty try in the first test ….they weren’t shunting Ireland around ,I agree they plainly fucked them up up front
@Smallies (Comment #117)
No I haven’t, not mentioned England once, just the u20s beat the Baby Boks, that’s all..
@Smallies (Comment #116)
Not really, it’s a fallacy that Boks are bigger or stronger than any other side these days. They weren’t exactly shunting Ireland around and being tournament kings doesn’t mean you are the best. Winning for 4 years in between WC’s is what really counts. World Cups are a new invention, which includes huge amounts of luck and 1point winners. Bok supporters have this idea the Boks smash teams to smithereens, they don’t. They can barely beat Australia in Australia…losing to Argentina in Durban in 2015 was not great, Japan, Wales, I mean come on….
@BoishaaiPa (Comment #118)
Julle manne kry rerig baie reen die laaste maand
As Saterdag se rugby in die Kaap voortgaan sal die manne met flippers en duikbrille moet opdraf. Dit reen nog tot Vry aand!. Wynberg en Sacs se velde gaan soos modderbad wees.
@Grasshopper (Comment #113)
You’ve been going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about how fantastic England is ,I just assumed….
@Grasshopper (Comment #114)
And then they grow up play a bit of senior rugby and turn into monsters….
Roger, Brent & KES Oldboy, I hope we aren’t back here on Saturday evening talking about the ref 😊. You know how it goes in Houghton😊.
@Smallies (Comment #112)
Well they got manhandled, boys vs men
@Smallies (Comment #112)
My precious England, I support Ireland & SA
@Grasshopper (Comment #110)
So when last did your precious England win a world cup mate….we do have a problem at u20 level certainly its not lack of talent…more a question of selection and coaching
@BoishaaiPa (Comment #107)
Die ding is, soms lewer niemand vir dae lank kommentaar nie, en kakpraat is beslis beter as nikspraat, en boonop mis ek dan vir Geroeste Anker, Smallies, Kaya en Grasshopper, en gooi sommer ‘n klip in die bos
@Hanswors (Comment #105)
Boks U20 kak! Too much focus on school boy rugby & not enough in after school, the Poms & Argies handed our asses back to us on a platter. The Grey Bloem 1st team would do better at that tourno. SA rugby has delusions of grandeur, we the biggest, strongest, toughest, best…..wrong!
@BoishaaiPa (Comment #107)
LOL, you so clever ou seuntjie
@PRondersteuner (Comment #106)
Te veel airtime, jislaaik! You Okes bang on for months about Cape rugby. I watched a full season there in 2014, it was kak! No atmosphere, maybe just Bishbosch & the Paarl derby. I liked watching that amazing Kwaggas team too. KZN derbies kill the Cape for atmosphere. You Okes genuinely think WP is the only place with history, tradition etc. Good luck to Roos vs Grey, battle for no1. Not sure if SA schools players will play, when is the game?
And here I was thinking it was a SBR blog. Can someone direct me to the real blog please.
Kan ons net die blog weer terugkry op rugby asb? Julle gee hierdie sprinkaan soutie meer airtime as wat die SA media vir Malema en Zuma saam gee.
Hier het nou so baie reën geval vanoggend, dat ek vermoed die Bishops ouers gaan met hul bote opdaag Saterdag. Gim en Boishaai gaan defintief een of ander vorm van boot/kanoe of roeibootjie moet kry om by Wynberg en SACS uit te kom.
Lekker dag vir almal
Goeie more al die bloggers.
Hier is n paar hogere en diep gesprekke wat plaasvind wat nie noodwendig met die skole rugby uit te waai het nie maar dis ook maar reg so!
Die jaar staan einde se kant toe vir n klomp spanne maar daar is nog so hier en daar n paar groot games wat voorle veral die eerste naweek in Aug daar in Die Paarl!!!
Verbeel ek my of is hier n paar manne wat bietjie stil is die afgelope ruk…… wonder hoekom.
Onderm 20 rugby is vir my n groot teleurstelling en daar is baie groot gaping wat gevul moet word van onder 18 tot onder 20.
Baie spelers raak weg en die selfdissipline is gewoonlik die ding wat ontbreek.
@Snelvuur (Comment #102)
He keeps saying he’s not English but his attitude sure is English, that upper lip sure is stiff
@Snelvuur (Comment #102)
Being my industry, SA, Ukraine & India are offshore areas for data science heavy lifting, it’s got nothing to do with citizenship or language or culture, just economics….simples…
@Grasshopper (Comment #101)
For someone who professes to be “not English”, there’s a lot of us and them sentiment in this statement. Who exactly is the “we” that is using SA for cheap labour then?
@Deon (Comment #100)
Dude I work in Data Science & AI, wind your neck in. You make out you some sort of genius. Yes, I get all the gas & air, I’m winding you up too. Enjoy your remote working, we use SA for cheap labour. Good luck & good night
@Grasshopper (Comment #97)
FFS, I don’t get how you are unable to tell I agree with you? SMFH. Really, how can you not see this? You discussed the weather first, not me you platkop lol. I merely replied about weather after you mentioned it. You discussed crime, then I did. There is no debate, a debate is not possible on this matter, it is just that you have no idea what the bigger scheme of things is. You stare yourself blind at your own bigger scheme of things while not being able to grasp metaphysics, or the fact that I have a different “bigger scheme of things”. What is the UK equivalent of ostrich fever? Wood pigeon fever? Those moerse, gigantic pigeons with a white mark on both sides of the neck you have over there. If your ears were not so big your head would have been up one’s arse. In my profession I used to sit in SA and work and the UK and Aus at night on the same day. soon will again, I hope. In July 2022 I sat at Pretorius Kop in Kruger and worked in the Netherlands while braaing a galjoen I speared in the Western Cape three days earlier. I can send beet photos to send you. Wake TF up. It’s 2024. Information Age. Science Age lasted centuries and is gone and over.
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #98)
Shot for the support!
@Grasshopper (Comment #93)
Please do it. I don’t expect too many followers.
@Deon (Comment #95)
Fok the kak floweth, the Cape Flats, I’ll leave it there. No point in debating with you, the ostrich head is deep deep deep down. I mean like weather is important in the bigger scheme of things, really. I typed in ‘data strategy’ into Linkedin Jobs, my sector, 2,487 jobs in the UK, did the same for South Africa, results…41. You decide where has the best opportunities in professional work….let’s get back to rugby now…
@Grasshopper (Comment #94)
China’s economy is in its moer now. Borrowed too much from its own businessmen.
Rough 25 years? Lol. SA will never come right in the sense you are referring to. I have visited by far most countries in Africa, excluding the Spanish enclaves and about 12 other countries, and I know what is waiting. In 25 years it will be even tougher and harder, there is no turnaround, but we have adapted genetically. The lingua franca of Southern Mozambique and large parts of the western border is now Afrikaans and people are flourishing and becoming millionaires. If you visit Namibe and Benguela provinces in Angola, similar. Much like the “Boeros” of Suriname. We are pioneers by nature.
@Grasshopper (Comment #78)
You are not too sharp on sarcasm are you Grassy? My reference to our crime and railways?
Anyway, I was referring to 7/7 and the Lee Rigby case. Surprised you are unaware of these events.
Hope you are enjoying your first sunny day since the Sting concert in Thetford Forest. I prefer our winter to the current Penzance and Torquay summer thank you. I do not have to fly around for it like you. Why would any sane person visit Cape Verde (have been) or Dubai? Canaries, yes. I can do so too, but I prefer Kgalagadi in winter , or Kruger, or Xai-Xai or Namaqualand, in my own bakkie.
I do not live in a gated community and sleep with the back door open so the doggos can do their business through the night. I have motion detectors though.
My son has left school already, did his A levels (AS + A2), and making it good in SA. Tough as nails, an entrepreneur. You will not get Daughter will go work for my cousins’ firms in Germany when she left school. But I know she will return.
We do not have Tower Hamlets, Newham, Waltham Forest Shariah and no-go districts, and we do not have exploding numbers of Shariah courts at all. An hour at Speakers’ Corner will make anyone believe they are in Afghanistan. Only fun in it for a white South African is constantly being called the k-word.
I will never say one country is better than the other, and respect choices, have often supported you on your move to the UK, as well as the reasons for your move, just like I never ask the growing shitload of Brits residing in my town why they left the UK for the Western Cape. All I am saying is that Northwestern Europe is a place where I will never live. In fact, so far, in the entire Europe, Dubrovnik, or the last 50km before Dubrovnik, driving from Zagreb, are the only places I would consider living permanently.
Even if Julius Malema becomes president, I will stay. Even he is better than your Keir Starmer.
@Smallies (Comment #88)
Deep down you Okes know SA has a fokken rough 25 years ahead, aligned with the Russians, Chinese etc will mean the US will eventually cut ties. Comparing the UK to SA re economics is like comparing Grey Bloem to Cornwall High
@Smallies (Comment #92)
I might start my own English blog & talk to myself
@Grasshopper (Comment #91)
Boeta ons weet jy verstaan ….ons doen dit want dit piss jou af ,die is mos eintlik n Engelse blog vir KZN skole…
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #86)
Talking about me in the third person is disrespectful when I am here chatting. No need for justification, I thank my lucky stars everyday I made the right decision for me. I am a great ambassador for SA, always encourage people to visit to see the great landscape, beaches, mountains, game parks etc BUT I would never promote living there, it’s not easy if you are not in the top 5% of earners. I’m part of the Lekker Network, run by Nic Latouf and I always help fellow Saffas here with work and network opportunities. You okes love to gang up on anyone with a different view and dis anyone who doesn’t agree with you. SA has tons of positives BUT a much larger list of negatives…anyway, point made. I laugh when you okes try dis me in Afrikaans, like I don’t understand….
@Smallies (Comment #85)
Nope, not in my industry, equal opportunity for woman is only fair…
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #87)
He was a top class captain for Boishaai…
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #86)
My friend I do think you just hit the nail right on the head ,the dude is in his own way thriving from the crap we give him,I also think that deep down in his most secret heart of hearts he regrets his decision very much….no more feul on his fire from me….
@Kaya 85 (Comment #82)
Yes I agree time will tell. We are bless with so many top locks at the moment. But he is genuinely an exceptional leader and top class bloke.
@Smallies (Comment #85)
My opinion is everyone is giving this chap too much oxygen. There are a million plus SA citizens who are living abroad. Everyone has their reasons and motives. Who cares ? It is personal. Some make a huge success , some becomes great ambassadors for SA and focus on the positives but some like this individual cannot move on and thrives on irritating everyone with their permanent need for justification. No one really cares why he choose to be in the UK , its his right and his choice. May he just live in peace with his decision and may he now move on.
@Grasshopper (Comment #83)
Sorry to burst your bubble ….boet…but your precious England also has a DEI program
@Deon (Comment #76)
Same as English, tongue in cheek ;-)…
@Smallies (Comment #79)
Because there isn’t boet, mates daughter got top result in province, no space in medical school. Whilst there is AA/BEE etc there is no chance, sorry. I want only merit selection…
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #80)
I’m willing to give Moerat a fair chance…remember seeing him play SBR for HJS at the St John’s Easter festival…v Monnas. That was a classic game!!
@Roger (Comment #73)
Interesting angle…although who is to say that federation would be represented by one rugby nation….look at Britain = 4 international rugby teams….the British Lions would historically be consistently on par with NZ and SA over the last 10 decades…also bearing in mind if they played home matches as one
@Deon (Comment #76)
Ek weet maat. Onthou net dat sy van ook Moer-Hard kan wees !
@Grasshopper (Comment #78)
There’s no future for your kids here because you don’t want a future for them here….why is it that most of us actually see a future for our kids here ….and for the record my son works in the USA but plans to buy a farm in SA in a couple of years time
@Deon (Comment #70)
Yep, the Cape has a Mediterranean climate, hence the wine and fruit. I’m lucky to have the Med on my doorstep to go to whenever I wish. The UK has a temperate climate with very few extremes, coldest minus 5 and warmest 30, it’s perfect for me. Darkness is the only issue I have in winter, but a trip to Cape Verde, Dubai or the Canaries In Feb sorts that. The UK had 590 murders in 2023 and SA had 27,368, I think I know where I would prefer to be. Then look at road death toll, rape, hijacking, cash-in-transit, GBH etc, then we really cooking with gas. I’m not a fan of living in cloud cuckoo land in a gated estate, sorry, prefer real freedom. Bombed in trains, like when? And Muslim state, what a laugh, 3.9million of a population of 60.9 million, 6.5%. The UK is just amazingly diverse and strength comes in diversity. I love SA and might swallow there one day, 6 months in Cornwall and 6 months in Hermanus, but that is all. No future for my kids there….
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #69)
Now that I can relate to ,I also agree 100% with him🤣🤣🤣🤣@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #75)
Dit was in die sterre dat hy Bok Kaptein sal word…ek moet se as bok het hy my nog nie heeltemal oortuig nie ,maar dan ook hy is in kompetiesie met sekerlik 4 van die wereld se heel beste slotte en ek skat hy sal moontlik eers gereeld begin speel wanneer een van hulle aftree …
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #75)
Enige tyd.
Maar net BTW, dit was tong in die kies.
@Deon (Comment #71)
Jy moet dit self vir hom sê Deon.🤭
@Roger (Comment #73)
. I know Vryburg in SA was once the capital of one of the two Bechuanalands and the Southern (of the Malopo), separate section of Bechuanaland, known as The Crown colony of British Bechuanaland, stretched as far as Clanwilliam.
I knew about the referendum in Rhodesia, not the others. Thanks for that info. If only that happened, it would have been brilliant, hopefully sine the Beira Blockade/Patrol. I once drove Ian Smith’s Merc for a client that purchased it. And yes, it would have been great for Bok rugby
@Deon (Comment #68)
a little known piece of SA history is how close Southern Africa came to becoming a Federation within the British Empire – similar to Canada or Australia – After the Union was formed in 1910. After WW1, where South Africa were given South West Africa to govern as a class C mandate by the UN, there was a big push by Jan Smuts to incorporate Rhodesia, Bechuanaland (Botswana), Basotholand (Lesotho) and Swaziland into the Union and annex SWA. The Brits and South Africa were keen on Southern Rhodesia joining the Union in 1922, but the Brits allowed a referendum in which the (white) Rhodesians voted narrowly to become a self governing colony. Once Hertzog took over from Smuts and Afrikaner nationalism grew, the Brits cooled off on the federation idea and slowly but surely all the countries became independent. Imagine how different the history of the region would have been had the Federation became a reality – and imagine how ‘effin good the rugby team would be
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #69)
Now that I can relate to ,I also agree 100% with him🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Trots HJS (Tandem) (Comment #69)
Geluk met Salman Trurat as Bok captain.
@Grasshopper (Comment #66)
The Western Cape and to a lesser extent the UK have very diverse climatic conditions, but Cape Town in winter probably has double the rainfall of London in summer, but more sunny days in winter than London in summer. Then we have a six months summer. I have experienced worse summer days, no , weeks in Land’s End and the Scilly Isles than winter days in Cape Town. The net effect is the Western Cape having the most diverse ecosystem in the world, being the Cape Floral Kingdom. E.g. Table Mountain has more plant species than California and the WC more blue flowers than the UK has plant species, and the Benguela has more biomass than any ecosystem on Earth. Trivial as it may seem to many, to some it is a wonder, and despite having been all over the globe, and having lived, studied and practiced in Europe, still the place I prefer to live.
Regarding the rest, spot on, and you made the right choice for most. Except, we are not bombed in train stations (the ones still operating), only knifed and shot, and unlike the UK we are not an Islamic Republic, we are secular. We are also not attacked by UFO’s like Broad Haven in Wales
@Smallies (Comment #52)
When a previous NZ Prime Minister was asked to comment on the number of NZ population emigrating to Australia he said every time a New Zealander which is so negative emigrates to Australia both countries IQ will go up.
@Roger (Comment #65)
Sharp.
Anyway, I do not believe the two ABW’s should really be part of more than the history books anymore.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #59)
Not you and that’s cool with me :-)
@Snelvuur (Comment #60)
Great, glad you are not blinkered to the other 194 countries out there. I mean, claiming to have the best and greatest of everything without seeing everything is just dumb. I come back to SA and see how small minded some locals are, it’s frightening. Things like gates, burglar bars, alarms, lazers, non-stop locking of things is all considered normal, which is not. It took us 10 mins to lock up our place in Ballito everyday. It’s not 14 degrees and cloudy everyday & winters are not that bad, no worse than a Cape Winter, where it rains non-stop from April to Sept. Glad you are happy, brill!
@Deon (Comment #54)
@Smallies (Comment #52) 350k English “khakis” were sent to SA to a) put the jolly old Boer firmly back in his box after embarrassing the Empire at Colenso, Spioenkop, Magersfontein et al – that was never going to stand, and b) to ensure all that gold remained firmly in the Empire’s grasp – couldn’t let that uppity Paul Kruger rule over the richest gold reef in the world now could we?
and if it wasn’t for good old Lord Milner, schools like KES, Pretoria Boys and Girls High, Jeppe and Potchefstroom Boys High wouldn’t exist so three cheers for him! Hip Hip ….. Hooray!
PS – I’m taking the mickey fellas – Lord Milner was a twat (and half German) and Africa got it’s revenge on him – he was bitten by a tsetse fly on a visit to South Africa in 1921 and died shortly after of sleeping sickness!
@Snelvuur (Comment #46)
You are unfortunately but all forgiven. Thanks for your congratulations. We are very proud that Salmaan is Bok captain. He is only the second SA school captain to become a Bok captain after another old boy , Corne Krige.
@Snelvuur (Comment #60)
This shithole country has given me three meals a day for 52 years.Just saying …
@Snelvuur (Comment #60)
Het ma besluit om nie daarop te reageer nie ….die man voel hy is nie Engels nie…
@Grasshopper (Comment #55)
Didn’t say you were English, did I ?
@Grasshopper (Comment #55)
Not sure this will endear you to Smallies! Not even being English, but fighting in the Boer War to maintain English control in South Africa (that rather insignificant place on the tip of Africa). That being said, I agree with you that the world is bigger than SA, but you must also understand that our reaction to be (perhaps overly) proud of our country is born from the fact that we just keep hearing how much of a “shithole country” it is from everyone else. And it really isn’t, nor are its people. We have rugby, braaivleis, sunny skies and Chevrolet – and for us that’s perfectly enough (and better than English pasties and 14 degrees with clouds the whole year round). To each their own.
@Grasshopper (Comment #55)
who cares?
@Deon (Comment #51)
…and Michael Ondaatje who wrote The English Patient…there was also a movie, was of similar descent.
Interesting history prof.
@PRondersteuner (Comment #56)
Ja nee ek weet ook nie….dis baie tragies
@Smallies (Comment #29)
Dis ‘n baie teer puntjie daai. Ek wonder nog elke dag hoe ‘n unie soos WP en die oud WP spelers dit kon toelaat om te gebeur. Mens sou dink Ellispark en Kingspark sou dalk vergaan agv die ligging en die nuwe stadion langsaan, maar nie Nuweland nie.
@Smallies (Comment #52)
I’m not English, I keep telling you this. My 3x great grandfather was Irish (from Cork), left for NZ in 1880, became the lighthouse keeper at TiriTiri island off Auckland for 15 years, had 4 boys and 2 girls. His 2nd oldest son was in the NZ army who was recruited to fight in the Boer war, when the English won, he was offered to stay in Durban and that is how I ended up in SA.
@Smallies (Comment #52)
347000 actually, colonies excluded-another 100 000 plus, thus 447 000, + 100 000 “non-enlisted” African soldiers/auxiliaries. In total almost 600k vs 50-ish k. Have a great day
@Deon (Comment #51)
Jy het nog nie gelees tot jy nie die Rama reeks gelees het nie …selde met Asimov se Foundation reeks
@Grasshopper (Comment #50)
Yea mate SA is such a kak place England sent almost 100k soldiers to take it from us….
@Kaya 85 (Comment #48)
Arthur C Clarke, science fiction author, lived in Sri Lanka the last 30-ish years of his life, and his life partner was a man of Burgher descent. There is today still a similar, but smaller community in India, the so-called Geldria ( named after the Dutch province, later renamed as Gelderland ) of the old Dutch Coromandel governate. All courtesy of the Dutch East India Company and Roman Dutch Law, the world’s first listed company, the greatest ever, larger than most of today’s top 10 companies combined, with a “GDP” larger than that of Germany and Japan combined, without which there would be no stock exchanges in New York, Hong Kong, Shanghai, London, Tokyo etc., and the world would be much different. A country so small and with such a small population, wedged between all the great powers of Europe, had to figure out ways to progress by using their brains.If ever you visit Amsterdam, visit the world’s first Stock Exchange. Magnificent, with the following in large letters on the outside : “Vertrouwen is goed, maar controle is beter”.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #15)
Delusions of grandeur, Hulle Weet Nie wat ons weet nie, kak. Like everything in SA is something special or better than the rest of the world. Get out of your caves Karen’s and realise the world has much more to show than just on the tip of Africa….Cornwall High by 25…..the pasties are better there….
@Vleis (Comment #47)
Love to hear this…we should lobby to get a group or team over here
@tzavosky (Comment #44)
Wow fascinating…that is so interesting. Now you’ve got my attention.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #38)
My lightie was on a cricket tour to Sri Lanka a while back. His school was playing against Trinity (Sangakkara’s old school) in Kandy. It was like a blast furnace in the stadium…so you can imagine my surprise when a bunch of young Sri Lankans completed a rugby practice, on an adjacent field, while I was melting in my seat! They breed them tough over there!
Terloops, baie geluk aan HJS met hulle 5 spelers in die Bok 23 vir Saterdag! (Moet my asseblief nie weer beskuldig dat ek obsessief oor HJS is nie, ek wens julle net geluk!)
@Smallies (Comment #41)
Ja-nee, ek weet dit goed! Ek skeer sommer net gek. Sal interessant wees om te sien hoe sterk hy in die skrums is. Dis die hoof rede hoekom Jake hom weg van stut af geskuif het – man het gevou (soos ‘n jong Thomas du Toit ook het). Ek dink wel dat as hy sy skrums kan regkry ons kyk na ‘n merkwaardige speler. Ek vra al vir drie jaar dat die Stormers hom moet sign as ‘n loskop back-up vir Kitshoff.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #43)
OK, this is what I could gather – the Burgher people of SL is a Eurasion ethnic group consisting mostly of male-line descendants of European colonists from 16th to 20th centuries (mostly Portuguese, Dutch, German and British) and local women.
If I look at the surnames of the most recent SL national team, 10 of them (out of 32) could fit that description, which includes the captain Soyuru Anthony, with Silvas, de Silva, Da Costa, Fernando, Jansen and Gregory in the mix, so to speak.
@tzavosky (Comment #40)
Deep question…
@Kaya 85 (Comment #37)
Love these man.
@Snelvuur (Comment #35)
Hy was altyd n stut Jake the snake het hom try convert na hakker en sy loopbaan 3 jaar terug gesit
@Kaya 85 (Comment #38)
Do you know anything about the “Burgher people” of Sri Lanka? I’ve always wondered what role they play in Sri Lankan rugby, if any.
@Smallies (Comment #34)
Hulle verdien dit, baie geluk. HDF Salmaan Trurat die span maak, “let alone” kaptein is, sal ek nooit verstaan nie.
…and on another note
Predictions Sri Lanka
SL SBR is “proper”
(Full disclosure Kaya is an addict)
🇱🇰 (big FB fan)
St Anthony’s 18 – 13 Trinity
St Thomas 9 – 11 Sri Sumangala
Isipathana 24 – 3 DSS
Dharmaraja 15 – 15 Science High
Predictions E Cape
Queens 35 – 30 Selborne (festive day, furious rugby)
Hudson 38 – 18 Stirling (classy all round)
Graeme 18 – 25 Kingswood (downtown v uptown, money talks)
St Andrew’s 22 – 18 Dale (Dale rebuilding)
Nico Malan 27 – 16 Dan Pienaar (life is a rollercoaster)
Predictions W Cape
Wynberg 19 – 20 Paarl Gim (humdinger, Markus dominates)
Paul Roos 49 – 8 Bishops (heavy artillery)
Boland Landbou 24 – 22 Rondebosch (cold fields, & close on the farm)
SACS 20 – 31 Paarl Boys High (rugby is the winner on the slopes of Table Mountain)
Stellenberg 25 – 17 Outeniqua (light heavyweights slug it out, Jade Brigade hang tough)
Strand 6 – 44 Milnerton (the Brint and Coach Martin legacy)
@Smallies (Comment #34)
Daar’s so baie goeie hakers in die Vrystaat dat een nou sommer stut speel! 😉
In other news sien ek Grey kon darem weer die conveyer beld aan die loop kry.Baie geluk Jan Hendrik Wessels en Andre Hugo Venter …mag dit die eerste van baie wees
@Kaya 85 (Comment #27)
Are we making progress in pushing Sir Hopper out of his 1st position as k*k praters…?
@Smallies (Comment #29)
@Smallies, jou bron is verkeerd, oorspronklik was die idee om die kabelkar te bou en ou Nuweland pawiljoen scrap metal aan te koop, MAAR Affies het ‘n baie sterk wen kultuur en enige iets wat geassosieer word met Nuweland sou daai wen kultuur nadelig beinvloed het en dit is waarom daar toe eerder op die berg en kabelkar besluit is…
@RuggaFreak (Comment #30)
Awesome…
Esse quam videre
@Kaya 85 (Comment #24)
Great time to visit QC is always Queen’s reunion weekend, this year’s reunion was special, and many Old Boys said it’s the best ever, Queen’s reunions are really under rated, huge facility that gets so packed.
Before the Rec upgrades, I had the Pilley as the best.
@Smallies (Comment #28)
Update ….it seems like Affies who we all know is big on culture felt like the Newlands stands are worth preserving due to the rich rugby heritage it holds….unlike the union that once resided at that once proud and very historical venue
@Kaya 85 (Comment #27)
@OUD ANKER (Comment #26)
@PRondersteuner (Comment #25)I just had a chat with someone in the know….aparantly Affies bought the Newlands grandstands on a goverment tender as scrap metal ….they plan to rebuild Newlands at Affies ,the new Affies mainfield will then be known as oldnewaffiesland ,the cableway will go over the road to loftus to provide transport for the people who normally parks at affies for games…..
@OUD ANKER (Comment #26)
With a cable car…lol
@PRondersteuner (Comment #25)
Hulle bou ‘n berg agter die hoof pawiljoen sodat die Kapenaars meer tuis sal voel as hulle Pretoria toe kom….
@Smallies (Comment #21)
Kan wees, maar dit klink na iets groot as hulle volgende jaar Maart nog steeds besig gaan wees.
@RuggaFreak (Comment #23)
That’s a venue I would love to visit…last time I was there was ages ago before the upgrades.
Just for interest sake, which field do you rate as the best?
Queen’s vs Selborne at the brand new Rec facility which in my opinion is the best school boy rugby field in the country is going to be a titanic clash ! I’m on the fence as much as I want Queen’s to win.
@OudAffie (Comment #18)
4 wedstryde in 2006! Nie seker ek het al ooit gesien dat twee skole 4 keer teen mekaar speel in een jaar nie!
@PRondersteuner (Comment #20)
Ek skat dit gaan dalk paviljoene en kleedkamers behels ,moontlik twee doellyn paviljoene en dalk nuwe kleedkamers ….just guessing though.
@4×4 (Comment #9)
Ek het gesien dis gister bevestig. Verlede week was daar al sterk rumours. Maar dis net vir 2025. 2026 sal dit weer by Affies wees. Hulle gaan bleikbaar groot upgrades en veranderinge doen by hulle sportvelde. @OudAffie (Comment #19) Kan jy dalk uitbrei daarop wat beplan word?
@Snelvuur (Comment #17)
Affies teen Paul Roos is mos ‘n toetswedstryd deesdae
Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool teen Hoërskool Waterkloof Geskiedenis 1987-2023
1987: AHS wen 20-9
1988: AHS wen 20-6
1989: AHS wen 9-6
1990: AHS wen 18-9
1991: AHS wen 12-6
1992: AHS wen 7-3
1992: Waterkloof wen 17-7
1993: AHS wen 75-6
1994: AHS wen 32-24
1994: AHS wen 21-7
1995: AHS wen 35-5
1996: AHS wen 3-0
1996: AHS wen 25-8
1997: AHS wen 24-14
1997: AHS wen 22-12
1998: AHS wen 47-8
1998: AHS wen 44-15
1998: AHS wen 43-23
1999: AHS wen 29-0
1999: Waterkloof wen 21-20
1999: AHS wen 41-10
2000: AHS wen 27-10
2001: AHS wen 26-8
2001: AHS wen 37-13
2002: AHS wen 9-8
2002: AHS wen 37-28
2002: AHS wen 19-16
2003: Waterkloof wen 11-6
2003: Waterkloof wen 33-16
2004: AHS wen 26-19
2005: AHS wen 29-22
2005: Waterkloof wen 20-12
2006: Waterkloof wen 45-20
2006: AHS wen 28-24
2006: Waterkloof wen 21-18
2006: AHS wen 17-7
2012: Waterkloof wen 23-16
2013: AHS wen 19-18
2014: Waterkloof wen 38-21
2015: AHS wen 28-15
2016: AHS wen 48-14
2017: Waterkloof 24-15
2018: AHS wen 34-16
2019: AHS wen 44-27
2022: AHS wen 60-15
2023: AHS wen 57-31
Gespeel: 46
AHS: 36
Waterkloof: 10
Gelykop: 0
@4×4 (Comment #13)
As Affies hulle hoofveld nog verder opgradeer gaan hulle binnekort Toetse begin aanbied!
Predictions N Vaal
KES 23 – 30 Jeppe (W For the Brave…)
Kloof 26 – 26 Affies (dawn of an era)
Marais 20 – 18 Menlo (close one)
Garsfontein 30 – Noordheuwel 33 (more Bere misery, sorry Djou)
Lichtenburg 15 – 35 Anker
Predictions KZN, FS, GRQ
DHS 28 – 13 Northwood (restore the local pecking order, surf after)
Glenwood 11 – 12 Cornwall Blind School ( Hopper is right, everything is better everywhere else)
Sentraal 26 – 25 Goudveld (Tralies turnaround)
Duineveld 45 – 40 Welkom Gim (High score on the hard field)
Grey Bloem 55 – 19 Grey Gceberha (it’s tradition, PE to lose again)
Voortrekker 38 – 21 Jim Fouche (Trekkers striking hard)
@OUD ANKER (Comment #4)
See comment on previous thread.
@Smallies (Comment #11)
Ek verstaan Affies gaan redelike infrastructure opgraderings doen, en sal weer 2026 Noord Suid aanbied!
@Snelvuur (Comment #5)
Winelands vs Southern Suburbs have potential to be unbelievable matchups.
Rondebosch vs Boland will be a nailbiter for sure. Bishops vs Paul Roos on the other hand will unfortunately be completely one sided. Gim matrics have never beaten Wynberg before so that match will be interesting for sure. SACS vs HJS also has great potential.
Outside the WC, Kes/Jeppe; Grey/Grey; DHS/Northwood; Queens/Selborne; Graeme/Kingswood; Waterkloof/Affies will all be excellent derbies
@4×4 (Comment #9)
Jong oppas maar vir PRG hulle het nogals n manier om n fees te hijack….vra maar die Boishaai manne….net n joke,ja dit sal lekker wees vir die Kaap spanne om nie so ver te travel nie ….hopelik kan hy eendag in Bloem ook gehou word dan kan ekke ook n slaggie gaan kyk
@4×4 (Comment #9)
Hoop die Southern Suburb manne speel ook dan kan ‘n paar debatte dalk opgelos word.
@PRondersteuner (Comment #8)
Sien Noord Suid Toernooi word volgende jaar by Paul Roos aangebied
@Snelvuur (Comment #5)
Alles is nog baie nat hier in die Kaap en nog reën word vir Don en Vry voorspel. Tellings kan dalk laer wees as verwag. Ek hoop die velde hou en die beserings is min of niks.
@Skywalker (Comment #6)
Agreed on Glenwood, but maybe Glenwood give Northwood more fixtures down the line, hence the 2nd fixture. Maybe play St Charles at A team level midweek like we used to do vs Voortrekker and Port Natal
DHS vs Northwood will again be a big battle! They drew 7:7 in round 1 at Northwood. Its KZN no.1 vs no. 2, but DHS at home I think will have enough to edge us. Also not sure of any injuries or rehab post Craven Week etc.
Not sure if I like these home and away fixtures though. We play Glenwood again as well. I feel like the game has been played already, and would rather have seen us play St Charles this year and be done, rather then start again now in the 3rd term.
Groot wedstryd vir Drostdy die naweek. Die jaargroepe gaan ook baie interessant wees. Drostdy se juniorspanne is baie sterk (gewoonlik so sterk dat die manne o19 maar in Pretoria gaan speel om ook daar uit te help). Moontlike piesangskil vir Gim teen Wynberg (alhoewel Wynberg dalk gunstelinge moet wees met hul Springbokspan?). PRG behoort vir Bishops af te stof – ‘n goeie geleentheid om weer ritme op te bou vir die laaste stukkie van die seisoen. SACS-HJS en Landbou-Rondebosch behoort beide ook goeie wedstryde te wees. Ek roep Waterkloof met die opskudding teen Affies. KES-Jeppe too close to call. Kollege met ‘n K behoort die Engelse Grey af te ransel – enigiets minder as 40 punte sal teleurstellend wees, veral na die laasgenoemde teen Framesby die onderspit gedelf het. Groot kans vir Noordheuwel om Garsies in Pretoria om te stamp die naweek.
@Smallies (Comment #2)
KES/Jeppe part 2 gaan ‘n riller wees en so ook Affies/Waterkloof.
Grey vs Grey!!! Twee Greys in aksie. Watter coach en OB groep se instruksies gedurende die wedstryd gaan gevolg word. Siende dat die wedstryd in Helgardtstadt gespeel word gaan dit seker makliker wees om…….
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #1)
Battle of the Greys is iets spesiaals….
Skolerugby terug met n bang na die vakansie.. Paar groot verrassings gewees wat die laaste deel van die seisoen lekker interessant maak. Jeppe/Monnas, Nelspruit/GF, MC wat so byna Affies troef op Goldstones..
Hierdie naweek se games vir my: Jeppe/KES = Massive!, Grey/Grey = Special, Nelspruit gaan stert in die lug wees en boonop weer op hul tuisveld, en Waterkloof gaan verseker met selfvertroue in die groot Pta-derby in, ook tuis.
En vir die wat dink beker-rugby het ‘n plek, die logs en oorblywende bepalings begin nou interessant raak..