SA Schools squad for the Under-18 International Series:
Backs: Andell Loubser (Blue Bulls – Menlo Park), Joshua Vermeulen (Western Province – Paul Roos), Nico Leonard (Western Province – Paul Roos), David Brits (Border – Selborne), Stedman Gans (Blue Bulls – Waterkloof), Manie Libbok (SWD – Outeniqua), Manuel Ras (Western Province – Paarl Boys High), Wandisile Simelane (Golden Lions – Jeppe), Curwin Bosch (Eastern Province – Grey), Damian Willemse (Western Province – Paul Roos), Embrose Papier (Blue Bulls – Garsfontein), Jondre Williams (Western Province – Boland Landbou)
Forwards: Kwezi Mafu (Eastern Province – Grey), Hacjivah Dayimani (Golden Lions – Jeppe), Johan Visser (Western Province – Paarl Gymnasium), Cobus Wiese (Griquas CD – Hoerskool Upington), Ruben De Villiers (Western Province – Paarl Boys High), Salmaan Moerat (Western Province – Paarl Boys High), Ruben Van Heerden (Blue Bulls – AHS), Ernst Van Rhyn (Western Province – Paarl Gymnasium), Ashwyn Adams (Western Province – Rondebosch Boys High), Cabous Eloff (Blue Bulls – AHS), Dewald Maritz (Pumas – Hoerskool Nelspruit), Carlu Sadie (Western Province – Bellville High)Johan Grobbelaar (Western Province – Paarl Gymnasium), Nico Peyper (Valke – EG Jansen)
Coach: Hein Kriek
SA Schools A squad:
Backs: Earll Douwrie (Boland – HTS Drostdy), Riaan Van Rensburg (Eastern Province – Framesby), Tyreeq February (Western Province – Paarl Boys High), Ryan Muller (Western Province – Bellville High), Abner Van Reenen (Blue Bulls – Garsfontein), Mujaahid van der Hoven (Western Province – Rylands), Heino Bezuidenhoudt (Eastern Province – Daniel Pienaar), Cyprian Nkomo (Pumas – Hoerskool Middelburg), Eddie Fouche (Blue Bulls – AHS), Bader-Werner Pretorius (Kwa-Zulu Natal – Michaelhouse), Matthew Dahl (Kwa-Zulu Natal – Hilton), Jason Olivier (Griffons – Welkom Gimnasium).
Forwards: Zain Davids (Western Province – Rondebosch Boys High), Kwanda Dimaza (Border- Dale), Phillip Krause (Blue Bulls – AHS), Ngwekazi Khanya Ncusane (Western Province – Paarl Boys High), PJ Steenkamp (Blue Bulls – Garsfontein), Kamva Dilima (Eastern Province – Grey), Reinhard Nothnagel (Golden Lions – Monument), Hendre Stassen (Valke – EG Jansen), PW Koegelenberg (Boland – Swartland HS), Mashao Mukhari (Blue Bulls – Pretoria Boys High), Ignatius Michael Prinsloo (Free State – Grey College), Abram Venter (Griquas – De Aar High), Andre Lategan (Eastern Province – Framesby), Marnus Van der Merwe (Pumas – Hoerskool Nelspruit)
Coach: Lance Sendin
2015 Under-18 International Series fixtures:
Friday, 7 August – Paul Roos Gymnasium, Stellenbosch
12h00 – SA Schools A vs Italy U18
14h00 – England U18 vs France U18
16h00 – SA Schools vs Wales U18
Tuesday, 11 August – Outeniqua Park, George
13h00 – SA Schools A vs England U18
15h00 – Wales U18 vs Italy U18
17h00 – SA Schools vs France U18
Saturday, 15 August – City Park Stadium Cape Town
11h00 – SA Schools A vs Wales U18
13h00 – France U18 vs Italy U18
15h00 – SA Schools vs England U18
Baie geluk aan Ernst Van Rhyn van Paarl-Gim wat verkies is as kaptein van die SA-SKOLESPAN.
Sy ouers en skool kan met reg trots op hom wees.
Ek glo hy sal soos altyd met sy voorbeeld leiding gee…..uitstekende leier IMO.
Na amper ‘n week van stilbly, het ek toe weliswaar besluit om kommentaar te lewer op die siekspul. Wat n $0$$& gemors. Aan die manne wat dit verdien het om daar te wees, en dit nie gemaak het nie (vd Bank, 2xSmit, Rheeder, Massyn, Wiseman, Strydom et al), julle kans sal kom op ‘n hoer vlak, werk net hard boys.
Well done to the two boys of EG Jansen. Nico peyper SA Schools and Stassen SA Schools A side. Both brilliant rugby players with some good prospects for the future.. I think one or two other EG Jansen players were very close contenders.
Capeman jy is heeltemal korrek, ek het hom sien speel en hy was vgl. my uitstaande die beste binnesenter op CW.Op n ander punt, die leeus se nr 7 asook hulle buitesenter het telleurgestel,7 was laasjaar al sa skole,selfs wiese van griekwas platteland was nie so goed soos laas jaar,ek verneem hy was sa skole verledejaar.Dit is asof verledejaar se vertonings te veel gewig dra.Die seisoen nou verder sal baie interressant wees om die keuses wat gemaak is te regverdig.Gister se wedstryd tussen affies en maritzburg college net die begin daarvan!!
@Babbelas: Jy is nou n tipiese voorbeeld van provinsiolisme..gaan maak eers seker van jou stats.
@BOG: lyk my 7 is te min.
I cannot understand how Cornel Smit from Bishops hasn’t made it. That has to be one of the worst ommisions I have ever seen. Terrible terrible omission by the SA schools selectors. He was the best back at craven week. The angles he ran, his excellent passing and thinking at 12 were second to none. I’m absolutely flabbergasted that he hasn’t made it. SHOCKING
@BOG: When you talk about next year, I would agree that a better year should be on the cards. There will be a number of players in the mix for SA Schools. And you are absolutely right about the man at the helm. I am however concerned about a strange philosophy displayed by some.
@Slam: How does that work? Let’s assume GCB did a Glenwood and poached all the Louis Botha black CW players when they were in Grade 11. How would GCB have arrived at more SA Schools caps this year?
@Leelu: Daar is reeds afrigter kwotas in die sin dat SARU unies meer geld betaal indien hul hoofafrigter voorheen benadeeld is.
@Slam: Its something that I have tried to explain, clearly, unsuccessfully. To “add colour”, as you say, it would require some dictatorial rules at the school. Rugby is not the first choice of learners of “colour” in the FS or other inland provinces. If you look at the soccer teams at Grey, they are probably 98% black- and that is their choice, and they do so, freely.
@Tang: craven week sides need to meet criteria and Grey College cannot fulfil that which results in a number of Louis Botha kids being selected for the Free State side. If Grey College want more representation at Craven Week which will enhance the chances of their kids getting selected for SA Schools then they need to add some colour to their 1st XV side.
@Pinotage: And then, on top of it, I believe that he has not been first choice in his position. But let us see what happens next year. But I agree, even from afar, I have detected some “negative vibes”.@Tang: The story of other schools having “caught up”, is common. That would necessarily mean that GCB have stagnated and that is most unlikely. Anyway, I think that the success which Grey has had, runs much deeper than just coaching, but to explain that to someone not associated with the school, is impossible. They have over an extended period of time, always had the odd bad year or two, but if you are still regarded as “top 10”, even in the bad years, it says something about the school.@RuggaZ: He shouldnt be a problem. He himself, is an OB and familiar with the culture and traditions of the school.
@Pinotage: I hope it has nothing to do with Mr. Scheepers.. I remember him very fondly from my time at Hilton.
Wanneer begin SARU afrigter kwota’s instel? Indien mens die nepotisme in Blou Bul skole rugby aanskou is dit dalk hoog tyd. Dalk het PDV eersdaags weer ‘n werk
@Pinotage – Are they changing for better or worse?
Do you think the levels of professionalism amongst other schools has allowed them to catch up with Grey? Do you feel there are other factors? Perhaps an anti-Grey sentiment.
@BOG: The question old friend, is of course why only one SA Schools player in two years. I think I know the answer but I will keep it to myself and in my Lapa. The times they are a ‘changin my friend, like the famous Bob sang.
@BOG:
But who will endure to the end? And on that note, just a reminder that there are 7 GCB OBs in tomorrows Springbok group of 23
Baie geluk ook aan die manne vd SA skole 7’s
SA SKOLE 7’s:
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Friday, 24-Jul-2015
SA Schools 7`s Squad choosen for Youth Commonwealth Games in Samoa
Heino Bezuidenhoudt (Eastern Province – Daniel Pienaar), Curwin Bosch (Eastern Province – Grey), Hacjivah Dayimani (Golden Lions – Jeppe), Donavan Durant (KZN – Glenwood), Nico Leonard (Western Province – Paul Roos), Manie Libbok (SWD – Outeniqua), Khanya Ncusane (Western Province – Paarl Boys High), Mfundo Ndlovu(Pumas – Standerton High), Embrose Papier (Blue Bulls – Garsfontein), JC Pretorius (Pumas – HTS Middelburg), Johan Visser (Western Province – Paarl Gymnasium) and Damian Willemse (Western Province – Paul Roos)
(Coach Marius Schoeman and Paul Delport – SA 7`s Academy)
@Vleis: Hoekom kies hulle nie maar sommer die hele WP span nie en kry klaar nie……
Laat my dink aan die laat 70’s en vroee 80’s toe Noord Transvaal die Curriebeker oorheers het maar as die Bok Span gekies word is 8 in die beginspan van die WP.
Onthou nog ook toe Edrich Krantz van die OVS op verassende wyse gekies is en die grap om die braai vleis vure was dat as jy 8 Bobbejane kies moet daar ‘n Krantz wees om aan te hang!!
Congratulations to the boys who made it.
After following this blog for 3 years, I cant help but wonder how many Bloggers have actually played Craven Week, or higher, and have been in these boys shoes?
The amount of hard work over years that these boys have put in is almost unimaginable unless you have done it your self or supported your son whilst he was doing it.
The boys all read this blog and some Bloggers on here need to keep that in mind before they make stupid comments. It certainly isn’t funny for the boys who didn’t make it.
Geluk aan die twee seuns van EG, hou die Valke se naam hoog.
@griffon08 many of those “quota” players mentioned above make it on merit but unfortunately I must agree that there are some that don’t. I just feel sorry for the merit players left out as well as the quota players that will never know their true status. In my opinion, there is no need for this any more.
@Griffon08: 100% ,cheapens or places in doubt every achievement by a POC.sad
@Bush: yes they did and unfortunatley there are boys that missed out because of it.
@Griffon08: Did they use a quota system? There was need for that.
I wonder how much this squad would change (or would still be included and excluded) if the qouta system was not in place. Surely enough quality quota players to make it on merit. Always wondered how it must feel for a “quota” player to never know on what basis he is making it on.
@Grasshopper: Yes you are spot on. He was and is a destroyer.
@RBugger: I saw the photograph finish Mafu by a big toe.
@Bush: you obviously haven’t watched Marco enough, he is class. Luckily he still has a year to play next year and will cause havoc again…
@Bush: I hear what you are saying about Palvie and those aspects of play will need to be developed if he wants to make it out of school. I am just saying on his performances at CW, I felt he put his hand up to make one of those squads, not meaning the starting 8, but certainly in the squad.
Mafu as I have said before, is a fantastic player and a good 8, but I disagree that he outplayed Palvie in the EP vs KZN game – Mafu won the first half and Palvie the second half.
I did not know the boys name, but this Cornel Smit, WP 12, did not make one of the squads either
I thought he was a shoo in, based on his performance in the final
@RBugger: Morning, I don’t understand the hype around Palvie. Great Ball carrier going straight. But aren’t your Props, Locks and one Flank the hardcore carriers. Don’t they do what Palvie does. Didn’t see him jumping in the lineouts, the game against EP he was fantastic but the EP 8 was a little better. Wiseman, I think not starting on day two and him missing his MHS jumper in a few lineouts on day one. May have cost him. Well done to all the players and the players that went to Craven Week what a privilege
The day we don’t debate selection is the day we know there is very little talent. There probably is enough quality to select a ‘C’ team and that speaks to the quality of players we have at schoolboy level. Cornel Smit is an obvious shock exclusion but there are also others who were unlucky. If history is to be believed we will see the ‘unlucky’ guys in 4/5 years time still playing top level rugby. It’s all about character from here on in for the unlucky ones. So many school boys give up because of a very short sites approach to life.
I wish all of the boys selected the best of luck going forward.
@RBugger: Unfortunately there may no longer be u19 currie cup next year. However, your point is very valid.
@Slam: Interesting question
@Bush:
Congratulations to all the young men on their selection. Enjoy the experience. Particularly happy for Kwezi Mafu. I predicted at the beginning of last year he will play SA Schools in 2015 and again in 2016. The move from the Bulls back to EP did not affect his chances negatively at all.
What i is see looming is a competition within a competition, amongst the 2 SA teams that is. Common opponents will be England and Wales. Lets see who performs better against the same opponent. Maybe that will be the motivation the guys need to really give it to the tourists this year. Both teams.
How about one more fixture to be added, SA Schools vs SA Schools A? I am sure they will play a warm-up match against each other, light contact of course.
@Slam: Good Point, it would be good for the team to play outside of the Western Cape
Wow, I know not everyone can get selected and the job is tough on the selectors, but how the hell did the KZN Hooker and Palvie not make one of these squads – a bit ridiculous to be honest. However, next year they have the u19 Currie Cup and the whole SA Schools thing counts for nothing there, so head up and keep moving forward.
@Slam: In our day they had a Western Province League Side, bloody fantastic players
@Grasshopper: Yes good one, then a Grade 10, 9 and 8 side.
@Tang: thats why its time for WP to have 2 sides at CW, a southern subhurbs and CD side.
I’ve noticed these U18 internationals always played in the cape in Stellenbosch, Cape Town and in George. Why are they always limited to the western cape? Surely they should be played in other parts of the country to generate more interest.
@Vleis – I can never get over the irony of Boland schools being the biggest contributors to Western Province teams. 10 of the 12 are from schools in the Boland area.
The Bulls/ Lions/ Valkes are certainly missing a trick here. I think it is high time we have a Gauteng CW side. Send the top 3 Gauteng teams to CW and the next three to Academy week.
They should pick a grade 11 side too so they can start preparing for next year, HP type squad…
@Ringo – Congrats on the two Jeppe Boys included in the team. Both excellent players and certainly well deserved.
@BoishaaiPa: Hahahaha noticed that from the onset
Well done to Mafu and Bosch from EP, thought Mafu had a good CW. Also thought one or two KZN players were very unlucky not to make the cut. Looking forward to seeing how the sides gel.
@Ludz: They should have picked at least 4 or 5 from Oakdale as well yes!…Now we have to play them on the 15th in Riversdal without one third of our team!..
@beet: Just a slight problem with that “C” team if you can spot it!..
Also some okes in that SWD tight 5 were very unlucky
Heartbroken for Wiseman, van der Bank, Rheeder and Cornel Smit, I thought they were almost certainties for the main team, shocking that they even missed out in the A team
@Playa: He played well hey, super chuffed for the young lad
@RuggaZ: I like your C team.
I would like to add
Andrew Kuhn
Chrisjan du Toit
Matt Wiseman
Edmund Rheeder
JP Duvenage
Erich Cronje
Gevanhier Blom
Ploegie mentioned a number of these guys
@Rugger fan: Western Province: 12
Paul Roos: 3 – Joshua Vermeulen,Nico Leonard, Damian Willemse
HJS: 3 – Ruben De Villiers, Salmaan Moerat, Manuel Ras
Paarl Gym: 3 – Johan Visser ,Ernst Van Rhyn, Johan Grobbelaar
Boland Landbou: 1 – Jondre Williams
Rondebosch: 1- Ashwyn Adams
Bellville High: 1- Carlű Sadie
Blue Bulls: 5
Affies: 2 – Ruben Van Heerden, Cabous Eloff
Menlo Park: 1- Andell Loubser
Waterkloof: 1- Stedman Gans
Garsfontein: 1 – Embrose Papier
Eastern Province: 2
Grey High: 2 – Curwin Bosch, Kwezi Mafu
Lions: 2
Jeppe: 2 – Wandisile Simelane, Hacjivah Dayimani
Border: 1
Selborne: 1 – David Brits
Pumas: 1
Nelspruit: 1 – Dewald Maritz
SWD: 1
Outeniqua: 1 – Manie Libbok
Valke: 1
EG Jansen: 1 – Nico Peyper
Griquas CD: 1
Hoerskool Upington: 1 – Cobus Wiese
Baie geluk aan al die manne wat gekies is! Hart gaan ook uit na die wat teleurgesteld is dat hul nie ingesluit is nie… nie die einde van die wereld nie…kan maklik nog eendag vir die bokke speel of vir ander lande!!Trots op jul Dewald en Marnus!! Ons gaan jul heavy mis met Beeld uitspele! Baie sterkte vir die toekoms..maak Nellies en Suid Afrika nog verder trots met nog groter hoogtepunte..
Thank goodness making SA Schools or not doesn’t define ones career or chances in the sport any longer. Think of Flouw & Marcel Coetzee, both didn’t even make their provincial sides…
Could someone post a quick table with the schools / provincial breakdown please.
Well done to all – and I agree – a few people I thought would be good for one of the teams not there – but without knwoing many of the other provinces – it seems like apart from total WP domination – we have a good crop of youngsters.
Glad both teams will b e facing some good opposition and we’ll get to see a bot of SA SBR depth at international level. Looking forward to the matches in August
If only they’d listened to ou Danie Craven..
Well done to the boys selected for the teams.
A shout out to Kwanda – I hope you can ignore the noise my boy. Just be proud of your achievement.
Congratulations to all the boys that made it into both sides.
Also congratulations to those who have not made it on your performances.
You are all WINNERS
and
ENTERTAINERS
IN THE ARENA OF RUGBY AND I THANK YOU ALL.
Well, the selectors have made their choice, obviously only after classifying the boys racially, to meet the legal prescriptive requirements. But congratulations to the boys who are in the team and all the best to those who did not make the cut. The latter group should remember that there will probably be more, or at least, as many professional players from their group, as from the teams in a few years from now. Using the two teams as a guideline, GCB has actually achieved remarkably, thus far, by loosing some of their matches by such a small margin and secondly, that they have almost no chance in some of their matches still to come. Lets see what happens
Well done to those selected. for bothSA Schools Teams teams!
I have read the blogs and say what you like, I know there are always the unlucky ones…but unfortunately, sometimes this goes further and if I was Cornel Smit, I would sit back and wait for the offers to roll in,’cos they are gonna come fast and furious.
A more decent and honourable rugby individual, playing at the highest level of SA school rugby in our country has to offer and after witnessing his obvious astounding skill set, both last year and more impressively during the past week, he was clearly just leaps ahead of the pack and the best inside centre on show during the last week. He must feel pretty glum right now and many reputable Provincial and ex-bok players that were present at the 2015 Craven Week, are gobsmacked at his exclusion.
Kudus to you and your EQ levels young man, your time will come.
Those that pick the teams have their work cut out and there is no merit in apportioning blame on the selectors, as they have the toughest job of all….but watch this space….one of the best Inside centres in terms of strength, vision, side step and goal kicking ability has been left in the abyss after the 2015 competition. The decision must have been a tough one…rubbish…if this was NZ, he would be a baby black practicing a new Haka by now!
I trust that this year the WP Rugby Union have managed to stem the annual raid on the WP talent coffers and have held on to the players that WILL make a difference and add value in the next year or two….surely WP Rugby must be tired of funding the Bulls and Sharks squads year in and year out??
Please WP, develop a spinal cord and stop our best player exodus and ensure that WP secures the services of the best players that of the Boland and those from the other Souther Suburb Schools each year.
A great week for the WP team…brilliant performances against EP in the final and hats off to the coaches and backroom staff and the entire WP playing contingent….Lets get moving on the new apparel for the new season and focus not only our fitness levels, while also embracing the logical approach to a work-out year and in many cases, lets salute what
All the best, If I am still stuck, then we will male a place to collect…cheers nag
Ian
Congrats to Nico Leonard, David Brits, Manie Libbok, Jondre Williams, Cobus Wiese, Ruben de Villiers, Salmaan Moerat, Ernst van Rhyn and Johan Grobbelaar with making the SA team.
Same goes for Matt Dahl, Zain Davids and Hendre Stassen who made the SA A team.
Hard luck to Cornel Smit, Adriaan van der Bank, Ivan Smit, Andrew Khun, Christopher Klopper, Matt Wiseman, Jordan Sesink-Clee, Marco Palvie and Edmund Rheeder
Also, can somebody tell me when Bader Pretorius signed for the Lions??
My ‘C’ team would be:
15 Ivan Smit
14 Xolisa Guma
13 Louritz v.d Schyff
12 Cornel Smit
11 Richman Gorrah
10 Adriaan van der Bank
9 Louis Strydom
8 Marco Palvie
7 Len Massyn
6 JC Pretorius
5 Jordan Sisink-Clee
4 Adre Smith
3 Roux Swart
2 HP van Schoor
1 Chris Klopper
Congrats to all selected….go and make us proud! pity that van der Bank from Boland didn’t make it, he was very good imo
@Pedantic: I was laughing in disbelief at the selections, and then noting that there are going to be some very unhappy bloggers. So, to clarify, it is the selections (particularly for the ‘A’ side) that I find laughable, NOT the misfortune of others.
Of course there will be some really disappointed young men and parents, which is always a shame.. They can still hold their heads high for having made an impression and remember it’s not the end of the road. On the other hand, there will be some very happy kids who also played their hearts out, who now have an opportunity to show SA what they can do.
@Rugbymal: Haha, I especially find people like you humorous, people that rush to insult others instead of trying to understand.. Thank you for the offer though ;)
Just remember these boys did not pick themselves…there will always be unlucky ones and everyone will have their own opinions and favourites. Al we can do now is congratulate them and wish them the best of luck representing their country.
Well done to kids selected… kudos to the two Jeppe boys in the team. Very pleased for those boys. Eish but now we gonna limp home in the last 4 games of the season. But huge opportunity for kids hope they make something of it for themselves
Surprised not to see Cornel Smit in there & at the same time how the fark others made it. To those who’ve earned it, a huge congrats to you!
Someone is making a candit camera movie!!!!
Baie geluk aan die twee Vrystaters in die A span!
@RuggaZ: Not sure that’s funny. Disappointing for a lot of the boys but congrats to those who earned it.
Not one KZN forward, very fishy! Well done to Bader & Dahl. Palvie, Wiseman, Sissink-Clee & Klopper must be wondering how they missed out!
@RuggaZ: sont see the humour in having unhappy people and or kids about the selection.
Can refer to a good “kopdokter” maybe he can assist if possible.
Hahaha, there are going to be some very unhappy bloggers..
Surprised at the omissions of van der Bank, C. Smit and Palvie..