LIONS u21 | BULLS u21 | ||
---|---|---|---|
1 | Dylan Smith (c) | 1 | Njabula Gumede |
2 | Ramone Samuels | 2 | Arno van Wyk |
3 | Pieter Scholtz | 3 | Dayan van der Westhuizen |
4 | Bobby de Wee | 4 | Abongile Nonkontwana |
5 | JP du Preez | 5 | Nicolaas Janse van Vuuren |
6 | Cyle Brink | 6 | Heinrich Viljoen |
7 | Ruan Ackermann | 7 | Marco van Staden |
8 | Jano Venter | 8 | Carel Swart |
9 | Christiaan Meyer | 9 | JP Smith |
10 | Brandan Hewitt | 10 | Joshua Stander |
11 | Caswell Khoza | 11 | Duhan van der Merwe |
12 | Gerdus van der Walt | 12 | Adrian Maebane |
13 | Rohan Janse van Rensburg | 13 | Marquit September |
14 | Koch Marx | 14 | Jixie Molapo |
15 | Kobus Engelbrecht | 15 | Phillip Orffer |
16 | Pieter Jansen | 16 | Jan van der Merwe |
17 | Clinton Theron | 17 | Stefaan Grundelingh |
18 | Le Roux Roets | 18 | Calvonn Allison |
19 | Victor Sekekete | 19 | Jsuan-re Swanepoel |
20 | Johan Esterhuysen | 20 | Theo Maree |
21 | Shaun Reynolds | 21 | Kobus Marais |
22 | Aphiwe Dnyantyi | 22 | Ganfried May |
WESTERN PROVINCE u21 | SHARKS u21 | ||
1 | Wesley Adonis | 1 | Barend Potgieter |
2 | Chad Solomon | 2 | Chris de Beer |
3 | Frans van Wyk | 3 | Ruan Kramer |
4 | Cornelius van Niekerk | 4 | Hyron Andrews |
5 | David Ribbans | 5 | Jean Drotse |
6 | Luke van der Smit | 6 | Graham Geldenhuys |
7 | Kobus van Dyk | 7 | Johan du Toit |
8 | Rikus Bothma (captain) | 8 | Ayron Schramm |
9 | SP Ferreira | 9 | Rowan Gouws |
10 | Ernst Stapelberg | 10 | Riaan o’Neill |
11 | Leolin Zas | 11 | Marcel Coetzee |
12 | Brandon Thomson | 12 | Sandile Kubeka |
13 | EW Viljoen | 13 | Nkululeko Marwana |
14 | Sibahle Maxwane | 14 | Nkululeko Mcuma |
15 | Khanyo Ngcukana | 15 | Kelvin Elder |
16 | Martin Wipplinger | 16 | Andrew du Plessis |
17 | Liam Hendricks | 17 | Mzamo Majola |
18 | Kyle Whyte | 18 | Thomas du Toit |
19 | Johannes Momsen | 19 | Daniel du Preez |
20 | Christo van der Merwe | 20 | Retief Marais |
21 | Jason Marcus | 21 | Lotter Pretorious |
22 | James Verity-Amm | 22 | Sipho Mkhize |
FREE STATE u21 | EASTERN PROVINCE u21 | ||
1 | Ox Nche | 1 | David Murray |
2 | Joseph Dweba | 2 | JP Jamieson |
3 | Nicolaas Lee | 3 | Stefan van Schalkwyk |
3 | Gunther Janse van Vuuren | 4 | Gerrit Huisamen |
4 | Jan Albert Venter | 5 | Jan Uys |
5 | Justin Basson | 6 | CJ Velleman |
6 | Daniel Maartens | 7 | Henry Brown |
7 | Albertus Erasmus | 8 | Wynand Grassmann |
8 | Steven Meiring | 9 | Franswa Ueckermann |
9 | Louis Venter | 10 | Simon Bolze |
10 | Andre Swart | 11 | Lindelwe Zungu |
11 | Carel Jan Coetzee | 12 | Luan Nieuwoudt |
12 | Stephan Janse van Rensburg | 13 | Somila Jho |
14 | Vuyani Maqina | 14 | Mihlali Nchukana |
15 | Henry Immelman | 15 | Malcolm Jaer |
16 | Reinach Venter | 16 | Jedwyn Harty |
17 | Gert Kotze | 17 | Mathew Moore |
18 | SJ Roux | 18 | Tyler Paul |
19 | Jasper Wiese | 19 | Elandre vd Merwe |
20 | Albertus Pretorius | 20 | Luvo Claasen |
21 | Ali Mgijima | 21 | Warren Swarts |
22 | Stephen Rautenbach | 22 | Jaquis Oosthuizen |
ek dink daar groot fout by Bulle.Met Nolis weg na CC dink ek nie die nuwe coach up to standerd nie.Hoekom nie n goeie coach inbring van buite.Die nuwe kerel se CV bietjie dun in MHOP.Sal nie verbaas wees as daar nog n hele paar verlore wag nie
Ek het die voorreg om die Cheetah bedrywighede op n kort afstand dop te hou sonder om emosioneel betrokke te raak op skole vlak en hoër. Die opmerkings hierbo gee ‘n mens hoendervleis veral in die lig dat die Cheetahs in totaliteit besig is met n bou program oor die volgende paar jaar wat reeds 3 jaar terugh deur die jong speler coaches begin is. Ek hoop en bid hulle verander nie werwer en coach op o19 vlak nie en betaal net meer om te behou. Die kwaliteit speler wat gewerf word, word in meeste van die gevalle oorsien by ander unies, Andre het n vermoe om dieper te kyk en neem dalk die “2de, 3de en selfs 4de beste” in posisie per provinsie en ontwikkel jong talent in die beste in meeste posisies. Die spelers wat Cheetahs toe kom, kom om iets te bewys. Geld, status en blink karre is n 5-7 jaar droom wat van nature sal kom, belangrikste is die speel vir die saak op o21 en 19 vlak. Om hard te werk is nie n probleem en almal besef om die ranks te klim is die beste raad vir enige jongmens of dit nou n loopbaan as n fitter en turner is en of dit nou n student in Stellenbosch is met voete op grond en die beste dokter wil word, hulle almal weet, klim die trappe een vir een. Soos in enige amder situasie is die Pollards, Lambies, Frans Steyn vroee uitskieters maar raar. @muzi ek hoop jy verstaan afrikaans n bietjie, but I just want to say that i am following your commenst and you are a person with vision.
Geniet julle rugby!
@ Rugbymal – I would say Cheetahs. Agree with you that Andre is busy doing miracles at Cheetahs . What I like is that he is part of the coaching as well, think he coaches VC Young Guns + U/19 . Being mates with players at jnr level at Bulls its quite interesting listening to them speaking about what goings on and their views etc
@ Muzi – You going to watch Friday Bulls vs Sharks at Loftus ?
@Muzi: Love your inputs and comments and you certainly come across as a man that knows what he is talking about.
If you today had to make a decision on where you send a child will it be the Bulls? and if not what other Union has actually got their ducks in a row.
@Ploegskaar:
I concur Bulls have a very sound recruitment system….I just believe Ian Schwartz’s role in our past success or some lovers would say “glory days” was underrated…none come close to him when it comes to leadership….Xander’s a level above other “poachers” when it comes to signing elite schoolboy talent and I give him full marks in that department..he should stick to what he’s good at….IMHO he’s completely lost in this role as HP….I don’t want to sound arrogant but a union like the Bulls should be competing for higher honours every year…what happened since 2010 has been a nightmare due to complacency….three times super rugby champions yet we can’t even make a currie cup final it’s borderline criminal…I don’t care about junior level success that only sets the tone for future potential success..what matters most for a lot of PTA/Bulls supporters is winning silver wear…simply put it this way a guy Victor Matfield must stay away from the Bulls he MUST NOT BE THE HEAD COACH…we’re a shambles because of greedy ex players and “boetie boetie”
@Muzi: The role and requirements of a HPM has unfortunately not been properly defined yet in SA. Hats of to the Bulls though, like it or not, they have pioneered recruitment at JNR level and are still miles ahead, although Bart is catching up fast at the Lions and Andre is performing miracles at the Cheetahs with little support and finances.
Soon one of the Unions will get it right though, but a HPM with 20+ years experience in business, player/resource management, talent identification and decent rugby knowledge, in equal parts, is a minimum requirement. With the correct system and structure implementation and management in place from u16 to u21 level, acting as a feeder and in conjunction with a co-ordinated national recruitment network, it is really not rocket science. But, this cannot be headed up by ex-players, with vested interests or the albatross of buddies, ever.
@scrummie: It’s Xander fault that guy thinks he’s the boss at loftus…ARROGANT!!!!….he only gives new contracts to those players “he likes”….”boetie boetie”…….this would NEVER have happened with Ian Schwartz…..we don’t have even have a head coach…Bulls Rugby at the moment is DEAD….just like Border Rugby….won’t be long until sponsors run away…..disgusting!!!
@scrummie: It’s disgraceful….. Rohan Janse Van Rensburg, WSS, Francois Venter and Jurie Linde were stuffed around by FL hence why they grew fed up and ultimately they left….Xander is a scout nothing more….as a high performance manager he’s out of his depth…..
@ Muzi – its pathetic really !!!, well done to the Lions. Cant believe the Bulls let Jurie Linde go that just shows me something is not lekker :!:.
@Muzi: You see this is why I trust your opinion. Interesting to see quite a number of players from Pretoria schools in the Lions squad.
Vodacom Blue Bulls 15 – Xerox Golden Lions 55……… Eina……I blame QUOTAS most of these black guys in this age group are average anyway….. this Under 21 season is going to very interesting….this is a result of Frans Ludeke’s legacy and that dictator Xander Janse Van Rensburg….#XanderOut!!!!!
It’s arguably the weakest Bulls Under 21 side I’ve seen in a looooooooong time….IMHO lions will win by 30 points…..Duhan Van Der Merwe should be playing CC….