Grogper Cup 2016 – battle of the Gauteng vs KZN English-medium Schools

KZN holds onto the Cup but only just-just

2016– A last minute penalty by College kicker Ruben van Blerk, ensured his team a narrow win against Boys’ High and allowed KZN to draw level with the GEMS on 9.5 points apiece and in so doing retain the Grogper Cup for another year. In spite of their own difficulties in 2016, Pretoria Boys’ High accounted for a big upset when the beat Westville earlier in the season and then came within one play of repeating their 2013 feat which saw the GC going to Gauteng.

# VENUE DATE GEMS KZN EVENT GP ZN
1 Neu Thu.24Mar St Alban’s 35 0 Clifton St Stithians Fest 1 0
2 Neu Sat.26Mar St Stithians 16 17 DHS St Stithians Fest 0 1
3 Neu Sat.26Mar Pretoria BH 11 17 Michaelhouse St Stithians Fest 0 1
4 Neu Mon.28Mar Parktown 17 27 Hilton St John’s RF 0 1
5 Neu Mon.28Mar St Stithians 46 21 Clifton St Stithians Fest 1 0
6 Neu Mon.28Mar KES 39 24 Northwood KES Festival 1 0
7 KZN Sat.16Apr Pretoria BH 11 32 Maritzburg College 0 1
8 Gau Sat.16Apr Parktown 36 24 Northwood 1 0
9 KZN Sat.23Apr Jeppe 46 14 Northwood 1 0
10 Gau Sat.07May KES 32 32 Maritzburg College 0.5 0.5
11 Gau Sat.07May Jeppe 45 14 Westville 1 0
12 Gau Sat.14May Pretoria BH 6 3 Westville 1 0
13 KZN Sat.28May St Stithians 5 80 Kearsney 0 1
14 KZN Sat.28May St John’s 8 19 Michaelhouse 0 1
15 Gau Sat.28May St David’s 12 29 St Charles 0 1
16 Gau Sat.11Jun St Benedict’s 24 53 Kearsney 0 1
17 Gau Sat.11Jun St Alban’s 36 0 St Charles 1 0
18 Gau Sat.11Jun St David’s 31 12 Clifton 1 0
19 Gau Sat.23Jul Pretoria BH 22 24 Maritzburg College 0 1
GROGPER TOTAL 9.5 9.5
# VENUE DATE GAMS KZN EVENT GP ZN
1 Neu Thu.24Mar EG Jansen 13 14 Glenwood Kearsney ERF 0 1
2 Neu Sat.26Mar Eldoraigne 10 13 Northwood KES Festival 0 1
3 Neu Mon.28Mar EG Jansen 47 8 Maritzburg College Kearsney ERF 1 0
4 KZN Sat.09Apr Affies 62 0 Westville 1 0
5 Gau Sat.04Jun Monument 40 15 Glenwood 1 0
6 KZN Sat.23Jul Affies 59 7 Maritzburg College 1 0
7 Gau Sat.30Jul Affies 63 0 Glenwood 1 0
TENGKWA TOTAAL 5 2
OVERALL 14.5 11.5

 

2015 –  Gauteng’s English Medium Schools (GEMS) will face their English Medium counterparts from KwaZulu-Natal no fewer than 28 26* times during 2015.

After 20 games the GEMS found themselves in a rather unfamiliar (very surprising) position of being level with mighty KZN  but predictably the wheels fell off soon after that and KZN cruised home setting up a  “deja vu” 8-game winning streak in the process.  

Footnote: KZN did not win the TENGKWA Cup in 2015

*Bennies cancelled their tour to KZN

# VENUE DATE GEMS KZN EVENT GP ZN
1 Neu Thu.02Apr Jeppe 27 24 St Charles St John’s Rugby Festival 1 0
2 Neu Sat.04Apr St David’s 10 33 DHS KES Rugby Festival 0 1
3 Neu Sat.04Apr St Benedict’s 24 14 St Charles St John’s Rugby Festival 1 0
4 Gau Sat.04Apr St John’s 5 27 Hilton St John’s Rugby Festival 0 1
5 Neu Sat.04Apr St Alban’s 16 34 Maritzburg College St Stithians Festival 0 1
6 Gau Sat.04Apr St Stithians 3 51 Michaelhouse St Stithians Festival 0 1
7 Neu Mon.06Apr St Benedict’s 20 34 Hilton St John’s Rugby Festival 0 1
8 Gau Mon.06Apr St Stithians 24 29 Clifton St Stithians Festival 0 1
9 Gau Sat.18Apr Jeppe 29 22 Northwood 1 0
10 Neu Sat.25Apr Pretoria BH 24 17 DHS Jeppe 125th 1 0
11 Neu Sat.25Apr Parktown 31 38 Westville Jeppe 125th 0 1
12 Gau Sat.25Apr Jeppe 21 20 Maritzburg College Jeppe 125th 1 0
13 Neu Mon.27Apr Parktown 18 23 Maritzburg College Jeppe 125th 0 1
14 Gau Mon.27Apr Jeppe 27 21 DHS Jeppe 125th 1 0
15 Neu Mon.27Apr KES 18 11 Westville Jeppe 125th 1 0
16 KZN Wed.29Apr St Benedict’s X X Clifton Cancelled 0.5 0.5
17 KZN Fri.01May St Benedict’s X X Northwood Cancelled 0.5 0.5
18 KZN Fri.01May Jeppe 27 20 Westville 1 0
19 Gau Fri.01May Pretoria BH 3 25 Maritzburg College 0 1
20 KZN Fri.01May Parktown 34 10 St Charles 1 0
21 KZN Sun.03May Parktown 10 19 Northwood 0 1
22 KZN Sat.09May KES 33 34 Maritzburg College 0 1
23 KZN Sat.16May Pretoria BH 0 25 Westville 0 1
24 Gau Sat.23May KES 12 17 Westville 0 1
25 Gau Sat.30May St Stithians 10 43 Kearsney 0 1
26 Gau Sat.30May St John’s 3 37 Michaelhouse 0 1
27 Gau Sat.20Jun St Alban’s 23 26 St Charles 0 1
28 KZN Sat.01Aug Pretoria BH 6 55 Maritzburg College 0 1
GROGPER TOTAL 10 18
# VENUE DATE GAMS KZN EVENT GP ZN
Neu Thu.02Apr Menlopark 25 27 Westville Kearsney Easter Rugby Fest 0 1
Neu Thu.02Apr Helpmekaar 19 52 Michaelhouse St Stithians Festival 0 1
Neu Mon.06Apr Menlopark 23 19 Glenwood Kearsney Easter Rugby Fest 1 0
Neu Mon.06Apr Eldoraigne 26 17 DHS KES Rugby Festival 1 0
Gau Sat.18Apr Affies 33 10 Westville 1 0
Neu Sat.25Apr EG Jansen 33 3 Glenwood Wildeklawer 1 0
Gau Sat.16May Menlopark X X Glenwood 0.5 0.5
KZN Sat.06Jun Monument 21 8 Glenwood 1 0
Gau Sat.25Jul Affies 50 19 Maritzburg College 1 0
KZN Sat.01Aug Affies 22 20 Glenwood 1 0
TENGKWA TOTAAL 7.5 2.5
OVERALL 17.5 20.5

 

2014 – aided by a 9-game unbeaten streak KZN crushes the GEMS by 8 points

# VENUE DAY DATE GEMS KZN FEST / COMPO GP KN
1 Neu Sat Sat 29 Mar Pretoria BH 39 8 DHS Grey PE Fest 1 0
2 Neu Mon Mon 31 Mar KES 20 17 DHS Grey PE Fest 1 0
3 Neu Mon Mon 31 Mar Pretoria BH 17 21 Kearsney Grey PE Fest 0 1
4 Neu Mon Mon 31 Mar Jeppe 14 20 Glenwood Grey PE Fest 0 1
5 KZN Sat Sat 12 Apr Pretoria BH 28 42 Maritzburg College 0 1
6 Gau Sat Sat 19 Apr St Stithians 10 34 Hilton St Stithians 0 1
7 Gau Mon Mon 21 Apr KES 50 15 Northwood KES Festival 1 0
8 Gau Mon Mon 21 Apr St John’s 26 13 St Charles St John’s 1 0
9 KZN Sat Sat 26 Apr Jeppe 17 31 Northwood 0 1
10 KZN Sat Sat 26 Apr Parktown 8 34 DHS 0 1
11 KZN Mon Mon 28 Apr Parktown 18 36 Northwood 0 1
12 Gau Sat Sat 10 May KES 25 25 Maritzburg College 0.5 0.5
13 Gau Sat Sat 10 May Pretoria BH 5 35 Westville 0 1
14 KZN Sat Sat 24 May KES 23 34 Westville 0 1
15 KZN Sat Sat 31 May St John’s 10 52 Michaelhouse 0 1
16 KZN Sat Sat 31 May St Stithians 19 63 Kearsney 0 1
17 Gau Sat Sat 02 Aug Pretoria BH 18 35 Maritzburg College 0 1
347 515 4.5 12.5

2013 – Gauteng sneaks home by a single point after Boys High wins on Goldstones

DATE SCHOOL SCHOOL GP ZN
16/03/13 St Davids 17 6 St Charles 1
01/04/13 St Albans 26 25 Hilton 1
13/04/13 Pretoria BH 25 23 M. College 1
13/04/13 Jeppe 33 24 Northwood 1
15/04/13 Northwood 15 11 St Benedicts 1
20/04/13 Westville 22 17 Pretoria BH 1
04/05/13 KES 16 22 Westville 1
04/05/13 Parktown 33 5 DHS 1
11/05/13 St Charles 16 37 St Albans 1
18/05/13 M. College 30 8 KES 1
18/05/13 St Stithians 0 62 Kearsney 1
25/05/13 St Johns 19 55 Michaelhouse 1
27/07/13 M. College 16 30 Pretoria BH 1
TOTAL 7 6

61 Comments

  1. I hope i’m wrong but yoh, I can’t see Gauteng coming anywhere near close again this year :-|

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  2. @Wyvern: It’s hard to say. If one excludes the games involving the usual high ranked teams playing each other, there are about 12 that the GEMS can win. If they get that right, then they need just 2 wins from KES, Jeppe and PBHS in their games vs Westville and College

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  3. I’d need to call this year in EMS favour given that 20 of the 27 matches will be in Gauteng! But looking forward to watching a few of these matches this year.

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  4. PBHS playing DHS two years in a row. Maybe it should become an annual fixture.

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  5. @Wyvern – I tend to agree with you. Looks like KZN will easily take this one.
    There are a few fixtures that could have a massive outcome on the final result.
    KES playing Westville up on the Highveld twice could be significant. Maritzburg College travel to PBHS for the first of the two fixtures this year so this may also have an impact.
    By all accounts, Jeppe should be pretty strong this year so they could contribute significantly for Gauteng.
    St Benedicts are improving every year and they could be the team that decides who will take the cup.
    I would think St Stithians will be much better than last year so they could also add positive contributions for Gauteng.
    St Albans are always competitive and again they could add positive contributions for Gauteng.
    On the KZN side, I can’t comment on St Charles and Clifton. All the other KZN teams will be tough opponents.
    The ultimate winners will probably be decided on one or two key fixtures.

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  6. “2014….. KZN crush the GEMS by 8 points” Ja ja ja we all know KZN cheated by allowing the Dutch KZN school to participate in the comp 8)
    2015: I count 11 bankers for GEMS. Short 3 to take the cup, comfortably. With home town advantage I can’t see us losing this one.

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  7. @Woltrui: May I remind you that the particular KZN school complied with the very strict “school bus graphic” rule for Grogper Cup eligibility:

    none of these words or combination of words appeared on any of their transport vehicles in 2014

    hoër , volk, tegniese, landbou, gimnasium (with an “I”), academie, skool, HTS. :)

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  8. @Woltrui: What a great pass by quarterback Jesse Kriel to his wide-receiver Francois Hougaard that allowed the Bulls to get in for that one touchdown. :mrgreen:

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  9. @Roger: Well, that takes out Westville too, I couldn’t understand any of the Westville parents at the night league…. :wink:

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  10. Maybe it shouldn’t be a bus rule, rather a surname rule. If more than 25% of the team have Afrikaans, Dutch or French Hugenot surnames they can’t be considered for the Grogper…..now that would put a cat amongst the pigeons….hahah

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  11. @star: Games no 1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 16, 18 and 26.
    @beet: Hiehiehiehie… I forgot about the “school bus rule”!

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  12. Daar is nogal baie boere by Boys High. Soms sit ek langs die veld en wonder hoekom so baie lynstaan oproepe is in afrikaans.
    I reckon at least 30% of Boys High pupils have Afrikaans as a first language at home.

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  13. @Woltrui: I actually have game 6 as a banker for KZN. House will be very strong this year. Also be careful of an improving DHS and ” barbarian” Northwood team. :lol:

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  14. If Glenwood were in the mix, I would confidently say KZN have the edge but because the Gauties are playing most of the games up at altitude, they are the favourites…

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  15. @Grasshopper: The surname thing is not a done deal – I have met many a Botha who battles with Afrikaans, and likewise with the English surnames. Best one I can remember was back in the day when I was in the defence force – I was just transferred into a unit and was placed on guard duty with a John Wright – being from KZN I thought I cut a lucky break with some English speaking dude – only to get this: “Luister my ou, as jy gaan kom F@#$%N Brits (as in British) praat hier met my dan gaan ons nerens kom nie hoor!” ‘struth – he couldnt speak a word!!!

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  16. @Redblack White: Yeah when I read comments like yours it makes me think of the former Free State wicketkeeper Philip Radley. Philip Johannes Lourens Radley. :)

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  17. @Redblack White: Surely you mean Bowther not Botha

    Like Labuschagne, or is it Larbooshane … :roll: :roll:

    My first guard duty during basics was a real eye-opened for this little soutie from Sleep Hollow in the Last Outpost. I checked later to see if the oke had not quoted directly from Mein Kampf.

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  18. As a KZN supporter – not sure I should be pointing out that St Dunstans (Boksburg) beat Scottburgh High this weekend 20 – 8 too? Does thnis count as a Grogper fixture?

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  19. @Rugger fan: eish, why don’t we just include Grosvenor, Kloof, Hillcrest, Richards Bay, Port Shepstone, Brettenwood, New Forest and others vs JHB teams

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  20. @Tang: Looks like our 9-game streak is over compliments of a late late try by Jeppe. I reckon KZN could win 5 on one day come Saturday.

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  21. @Woltrui: A few of your bankers blew out this weekend.
    Well done to the KZN sides bagging points this weekend.

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  22. Gauteg edges one back :cry:

    The Jeppe 125 this weekend should provide a much clearer idea about the KZN challenge

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  23. @beet: Having checked the Tengkwa cup scores, I think you may have made an error in the totals column. EG beat Glenwood but you gave the point to ZN.

    Had I not known that you were of impeccable standing, I would have thought that you might have sneaked that one past the vallies! :mrgreen:

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  24. @beet: Thanks beet!

    I gave PBHS a very slim chance today. Seems some drastic intervention is needed there or their rugby will be left behind

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  25. PBHS may have a little hiccup this year but we will be back. We have a nice u16 group coming through. The U16A team had a hard fought 10 – 7 win over Maritzburg yesterday.

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  26. @Westers: Jeez my so called bankers definately fell out of the bus. Show’s you how much I know about rugby in KZN :oops:
    Wonder if Bennies took the Gropher Cup into consideration when they cancelled their KZN tour? Dropped the Gauties badly(I had game 16 as a banker-a forsure banker 8) )

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  27. Please update 2015 – and give us the 2016 fixtures – looking forward to another KZN win in 2016

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  28. @Rugger fan: I’ve just had a look at the various KZN school squads and must suggest that Westville (in addition to Glenwood) and possibly College be excluded from the GROGPER Cup and be included in the TENGKWA Cup. :lol:

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  29. So far = from the KZN fixture list:

    Clifton St Albans
    Clifton St Stithians
    Clifton t Davids
    DHS St Stithians
    Hilton Parktown
    Kearsney St Stithians
    Kearsney St Benedicts
    College PBHS
    College KES
    College PBHS
    Michaelhouse St Johns
    Northwood KES
    Northwood Parktown
    Northwood Jeppe
    St Charles St Davids
    St Charles St Albans
    Westville PBHS
    Westville Jeppe

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  30. @Vleis: Remember an Afrikaans surname does not equal an Afrikaans speaker and vice versa, John Smit and Juan Smith… :wink: 8-O

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  31. @Grasshopper: Clutching at straws there Grassy. You know the truth son, you know the truth….as do EG Jansen, Jan v Riebeeck, Waterkloof, etc, etc. :lol: :lol:

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  32. Only 4 of the matches in the Grogper cup in KZN! The rest in Gauteng – even the Neutral matches! Eish!

    Looking like a tough TENGKWA too – I’d go with Grogper to KZN – and Tengkwa heading north very convincingly.

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  33. right then – lets have a go at this:

    St Alban’s Clifton – St Albans
    St Stithians DHS – DHS
    Pretoria BH Michaelhouse – PBHS
    Parktown Hilton – Parktown
    St Stithians Clifton – Clifton
    KES Northwood – KES
    Pretoria BH Maritzburg College – College
    Parktown Northwood – Parktown
    Jeppe Northwood – Jeppe
    KES Maritzburg College – KES
    Jeppe Westville – Jeppe
    Pretoria BH Westville – PBHS
    St Stithians Kearsney – Kearsney
    St John’s Michaelhouse – Michaelhouse
    St David’s St Charles – St Charles
    St Benedict’s Kearsney – Kearsney
    St Alban’s St Charles – St Albans
    St David’s Clifton – Clifton
    Pretoria BH Maritzburg College – PBHS

    12-7 to Gauteng

    TENGKWA – KZN will see their hind tits properly – 9 duck!

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  34. So a 1 – 1 result for the weekend – College and Parktown both getting wins

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  35. @Rugger fan: so it stands at 4 apiece – and I cant see Northwood beating Jeppe this w/end so the Gauties will be 1 clear before KES College and Jeppe Westville clash on 7 May.

    @Grasshopper: not my fault you don’t want to play with us …… “if you want to run with the Big Dogs don’t yap with the puppies” :wink:

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  36. @Roger: Hopefully the new head will be able to convince one of Jeppe, KES or PBHS to play a down the line fixture with Glenwood. We (me) would prefer to win a few games than be pasted by Affies and Grey Bloem every year…

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  37. @Roger: I have no idea, not seen a newspaper ad (I don’t read papers), so maybe 3 to 6 months? How long did it take to appoint your new guy once Fennel left?

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  38. Sadly the TengKWA has an error – EGJ is from GP not ZN – and college ate humble pie in that match :cry:

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  39. St Alban’s beat St Charles by 36 to 0 and St David’s beat Clifton by 31 to 12, but Kearsney beat Bennies by 51 to 24, so it looks like the Gauteng schools are one up by one with one to go.

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  40. Oh…and after complaining about the refs in St Alban’s last four games v PBHS, Jeppe, KES and Parktown, it would be remiss of me not to compliment the ref’s performance today. He certainly penalised St Alban’s many times, but they were (in my opinion) valid.

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