With the exception of unfortunate first choice fullback Henry Immelman, who picked up a nasty looking injury against Affies a couple of weeks ago, Grey College will have a full strength team to take on Boishaai in Paarl on Saturday. The game will be televised on SuperSport 1 at 14h00.
The long term history between the two schools shows that Grey has dominated the Galpille but in recent seasons, the boys in blue from Paarl have been the second most successful team in SA against Grey College, with Affies’ back to back wins in 2012 and 2013 placing them at the top of the list.
HJS are without no.8 Charl-Francois du Toit for this match.
| # | GREY COLLEGE | # | HJS PAARL BH |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Ruben Terblanche | 1 | Quintin Vorster |
| 2 | JC J van Vuuren | 2 | Carel van Zyl |
| 3 | Janu Botha | 3 | Derrick Marais |
| 4 | Jurie Burger | 4 | Wian Botha © |
| 5 | Kassel Rothman | 5 | Ruben de Villiers |
| 6 | De Wet Bezuidenhoudt | 6 | Phillip Bester |
| 7 | Henry Slabbert | 7 | Andreas van Wyk |
| 8 | Alex Jonker | 8 | Phillip Coetzee |
| 9 | Dian Badenhorst | 9 | Bradley Thain |
| 10 | Dwayne Wessels | 10 | Rehaan Lombaard |
| 11 | Glen Erickson | 11 | Wian Gouws |
| 12 | Mike Andrade | 12 | Heinrich Moller |
| 13 | Niel Stannard | 13 | Curtley Grain |
| 14 | Charl Pretoruis | 14 | Tristan Solomons |
| 15 | Lourens Steenkamp | 15 | Ryan Lafite |
| 16 | Callie J van Vuuren | 16 | Thomas Corbett(hooker) |
| 17 | Wicus Groenewald (prop) | ||
| 18 | Dean Swartz (lock/flank) | ||
| 19 | Darren September (flank) | ||
| 20 | Christo Sadie(scrumhalf) | ||
| 21 | Stefan Gouws (fly half) | ||
| 22 | Tyreeq Cassim (wing) | ||
| 23 | Jan Louis le Grange (utility back) | ||
| 24 | Leo Kruger (prop) |
@Deon Pitzer: Gaan luister eerder na Manuel Ekskorsjounou
@Andre T: Statford-upon-Avon as jy dan die hele ding wil hê. Ek onTTrek my nou.
@Deon Pitzer: In Stratford?
@Andre T: Dis hoekom ek Shakespeare lees. Om te dink die man se regte naam was Johannes, soos aangebring in die betrokke doopregister. Presies so gespel. Sy naam klink meer of hy van Vrede as Stratford kom. Miskien is dit waar Spear sy naam gekry het.
@Deon Pitzer: Jy klink nie na die romantiese tipe. Meer na n op en af vryer
@Andre T: Geen sanksies het my nog ooit gepla, behalwe vir die wat my vrou instel nie!
@Deon Pitzer: Iets soos Jest do it
Ek stel nou sankies in teen jou
@Andre T: “Many a true word is spoken is JEST” – Guliemus Johannes Shakspere, aka as William Shakespeare in moderne letterkunde. Jest Djuice is ook ‘n bekende koeldrank in die Boland, soortgelyk aan julle Just Juice. By Simonstad staan ‘n beeld van ‘n hond genaamd Jest Nuisance. Nou weet jy wat beteken “jest”!
@Grey Brak: I have said that to him repeatedly, but his frustration with the truth makes him irrational.
@Andre T: Dit beteken “jest right” Mordaunt was darem nie in die mannetjie se klas nie. Ons het verskil, maar soos volwassenes. Miskien is haar man n OB.
@Tandem: Your assumption that both Grey’s u15A centres are new boys is incorrect.
The improvement that I mentioned was based on the result of the u15A match in comparison to last year. Tacking into consideration that the boys had to travel +-900km also has a definite influence on the results of all the teams in all age groups.
I reiterate that the development at Grey is at such a level that all the junior results will be reversed by the time that the current junior teams are at u16 and u19 level. The current and past results between the two schools prove this as well.
@BOG: Wat beteken ‘jest’ ?
En los my ou mater Mordaunt nou uit. Ons het lekker by Wildeklawer gesels.
@Tandem: I did not read your whole book, apart from the first sentence. So, now Im getting personal? Go back and read your remarks- the latest to AT. And most of what he and I say to each other is done in jest. So grow up but until then, go and play with your toys- in the traffic
@BOG: Bog I promise you that this will be the last time I will react to any of your remarks but please allow me the following . Firstly I am not disappointed in my team , please don’t judge me by your standards . Secondly regarding my “stupidity “.
Why do you need to get so personal if someone disagree with you ?Last year the 014 teams played in 6 games and Boishaai won 4 and Grey 2 . Boishaai scored 155 points and Grey 78 . This year the teams ( now o/15) again played 6 games and Grey lost all 6 . Boishaai scored 200 points and Grey 52 . So not only did these teams who are in your eyes making progress lost all their games but Boishaai scored 45 points more this year and Grey scored 26 points less . The average scores over the last year’s 6 games was 26-13 in Boishaai’s favour and this year 33-9.You are reading progress only in the fact that the o/15 A team improved their score which is a very dangerous assumption to make . Your junior teams also won no game in the 0/14 group and only
2 out of 6 in the 0/16 age group . Your 0/19 group did very well and time will tell if this will continue in the future . Your Cherries team who you claimed was the second best team in South Africa also was smashed on Saturday . These results does not make Grey suddenly a weak rugby school but the reality is that other schools perhaps should get more respect from you . Over and out from me . T
@Tandem: Sorry, I left out the word, “stupid”. In fact, even if you do realize that.
@Tandem: Are you still pissed off with the result? If you cant see that there is a massive improvement on the previous year, you are just plain—And what does the record look like in the senior sides, especially the firsts?. When are you going to realise, that what matters, is their skills level when they reach the end of their school careers. Getting distinctions in Gr 8 is nice, but it wont give you varsity entrance. Same applies to sport- its called development.
@Grey Brak: Both o15 centres are new in Grey . Grey did not won any 0/15 game so I struggle to see the improvement ?
@Andre T: Well said ! Bog really has chosen an appropriate name for himself.
Boishaai vs Grey.
27 games played.
BH won 15 – Grey won 12
Grey won 8 of 9 u/19 games
BH won 4 of 6 u/16 games
BH won 6 of 6 u/15 games
BH won 4 of 6 u/14 games
@BOG: Nee Bog ek twyfel of jy amper een was. Om ryk te wees moet mens of lucky wees of intelligent. Jy is nie eers ‘amper’ een van die 2
@Deon Pitzer: Ek het nie Grieks gedoen nie.En ek twyfel of Puffie tot so iets in staat is- nie agv morele beperkinge nie, maar eerder tegniese tekortkominge.@Andre T: En ek was “amper” n ryk man.
@BOG: Is jy seker jy het daardie kommentaar wat verdwyn werklik gepos? Is jy seker jy is steeds ‘n teetotaller? Watter slaapmedikasie gebruik jy? Het jy onlangs jou rekenaar vir Spyware getoets? Miskien Duppie aka Proppie ?
@Gemaskerdesopbeen: Daai ‘gesub’ het julle amper die game gekos.
@Dagghaboy: Onthou, Janu Botha en Reuben Terblanche was “gesub”. Tot dit gebeur het was die Grey pak dominant.
@Grey Brak: Exactly what I said in a comment which “disappeared”. But this improvement or trend is not that unusual at Grey, and of course, often the “accusations”of recruitment or addition is leveled. I like using Boom Prinsloo as an example. If I remember correctly, U 14 or 15 C, First team 2007 (one of the best), SA sevens, and now one of the very few outstanding players in the Cheetahs side. The fact that GCBs third team have produced 3 Springboks, is just affirmation of the quality of coaching and real development at Grey
@beet: I agree! The step up from u13 to u14 level is a big one and many take a while longer to adapt. Again though, I would like to reiterate that the coaching and exposure at Grey is immensely good for the development of rugby talent. It may sound biased, but it is a fact and it is evident in past and present results.
@Grey Brak: Given that background, I have to take my hat off to the boys. To get trounced at home and then reduce the deficit like that a long way from home, takes some doing.
U14 is sometimes like a carryover from junior school where size rules over all else, so that can be a significant influence
@Beet: Apparently the Grey u15 side only has one addition from the u14 team of last year which is really quite normal in any school side in modern times. The team does though look different from last year with a few players having physically developed in conjunction with a few positional changes, again, relatively normal in the transition from one year to the next at junior level.
@Grey Brak: This is a huge and positive improvement and credit to the players and coaches provided its all the same Grey boys who played for in the u14 age group last year, who have now lifted their game.
If however it turns out that Grey has gone out and recruited a few boys for their team, it removes a lot of the gloss from the achievement IMHO.
Grey se junior spanne het effens swaar geeky teen HJS. Die afrigting sowel as die blootstelling van klipharde rugby naweek in en naweek uit het uiteindelik die grootste invloed op Grey se rugby. Kyk net na die verskil van die 15A uitslag. Verlede jaar het Grey 46-6 verloor, maar vanjaar slegs 23-21. Dus is ek seker dat al die juniorspanne se uitslae sal verbeter odor die volgende paar jaar in Grey.
@Andre T: Ek merk my kommentaar is verwyder nadat ek vir Tandem geluk gewens het omdat hy daarop aanspraak gemaak het dat , of so geinsinueer het, dat hy jou “mind kan lees”. As dit waar was, dan sou hy die eerste gewees het. Die junior spanne- eintlik O14 het klippe gekou teen n uitstekende O14 HJS groep- waarskynlik die sterkste in SA op hierdie stadium. Maar dit is niks wat goeie afrigting en ontwikkeling nie kan reg maak nie. Jy moet maar vir Proppie/Duppie/?/ ? in al sy vorme aanspreek, anders sal hy nie weet jy praat met “hom” nie. Ou “Duppie” trek n Chuck Norris- missing in action. Dit moet seker as die FO vd jaar beskou word, so jy kan dit reeds nou aan hom toeken
@Andre T: Sorry mr T was nie op die unerversiteit nie. Hulle het bietjie lawaaierig vir my geklink. Dink ons moet Schusterkie Kaap toe stuur dan kan die outjies behoorlike songs leer. Maar hoe se die geleerde ouens van elke vlieg op sy drol? So iets.
Daai Ingram song is dit nou as jy Campfer Ingrim smeer waar jy nie moes nie. Sou die weer ‘n gil noem maar ja soos hierbo gese elk vlieg op sy eie drol ne.
Oor die Bog drol sal ek my nie uitlaat nie. Dink ons moet hom daar in die Vrystaat ophang en as die tweede vlieg land, dit bottel en dan Afghanistan toe stuur.
@Proppie: Jys reg oor die up and unders maar flip hoe was daai gees nie daar? HJS se band laat my terugdink aan die dae toe ek nog rasieleier by intervarsities was. Mis darem daai Liewe Ingram song erg jong. Daai Grey ou wat met die eerste drie die vleuel omhels het…….wonder of dit nie Bog is nie?
@Andre T: Mr T more man. Skiem die manne van Grey Bloem sal weer ‘n paar van daai manne met die groot hoede weer die land moet instuur want al hul junior spannetjies het ook teen Affies pak slae gekry. Het juis vanmore die coach van ons 0/15 spannetjie gewaarsku teen ouens met jasse donkerbrille en groot hoede by die oefeninge rond loop. Maar ek se toe as hy wil doodseker maak moet hy kyk, die geniune donners se oe dwaal lekker oor die skoolterrein rond. Jy weet mos wat ek bedoel.
Maar die game van gister was beslis hard, maar bietjie verbeeldingloos. Waar was die losskakel met bietjie flair? ‘n Paar lekker gary owens en die game sou heel anners uitgedraai het.
Hulle het sonder flair en fut gejol. Garsfontein sou gister in daai weer met altwee spanne gelyk gemors het. Daai Roets en Ackertjie sou die manne in tjankbalies verander het. Maar kan verstaan dat die mannetjies van Garsfontein wegscram van ‘n tuis wedstryd. Netnou se die laaities hulle bly. Dan is dit weer terug na die sketsboek, of is dit cape se flats toe. En die bendes is juis weer so bietjie besig na hulle gesien het die ANC se beloftes is toe al die tyd boggerol werd.
Ai die word we living in ne. Maar ja na laas week se moles gaan ek nou ‘n kouetjie se kop knak en bietjie daai Cortina uittrek, spick and span en dan vir ‘n sundownertjie Harties toe ry. Lekker man lekker.
What a game. Ek wil so graag weer eendag op Brugstraat wees as die weer so is.
Wat n kliniese game deur beide spanne. Ek dink Sean en WdP is twee uitstekende afrigters.
Afgesien van die 1ste XV het HJS lyk my oorheers. So daar wag n paar moeilike jare voor vir teenstanders.
@BOG: My kuite is baie ontspanne…kom nou eers terug van kuier saam by my OGB vrind se plaas…miskien het ek jou comment mis gelees, maar dit was laat en my vrou het bestuur en sy het al die knoppe raak gery voel dit my…so met die rowwe rit kon ek dalk die essence van jou comment gemis het..ek het net die suurgat gesien….
@Dagghaboy: Ons het nie n squad system nie. Hy het eers vir die Seccies gespeel nadat hy terug gekom van n besering…Lyk my hy is weer reg!
@BoishaaiPa: I think that you are misinterpreting what I said. I have the greatest respect for HJS ( and most of the other traditional opponents) and if you read my comments attentively, preferably after your beauty sleep, you would notice that. And that respect goes back a long time – the camaraderie has always been there. I was merely responding to Tandems comment. So, relax the muscles and enjoy the sleep.
@BOG: @BOG: I think you have been out of the current SBR scene to long and have no clue of the actual carmarderie that exists between the old boys, supporters etc on the day. There are plenty OGB’s with sons in Boishaai ..there was ni hint of suurgat or anything…just admiration for the way the game was played .and the best team on the day won.no questions. Just accept the win with grace as it was done by every OGB i encountered on the day…true gentleman indeed …cept for a few Cherry old boys..lol..They did not enjoy the 31-11 lost.
@BOG: I am actually very happy Bog , the boys played to the best of their ability and no one can ask for more . Just to expand on Andre T ‘s comment I am aware of the following junior Boishaai teams who won their games today ( there may be more ) . 14 A , B , C and E .
015 A, C , D and F . 016 B , C , E . The Boishaai 014. A and B team scored 105 points between them and grey
15 . So yes Andre T you are correct the Boishaai junior teams did very well.
We obviously understand the main game is the most important score but that should not take away that hundreds of other boys also competed on the rugby , hockey and in other sports and activities like debate etc . From what I hear it was a very successful weekend and that the camaraderie between the schools was strengthen again .
@Tandem: I can understand that you are pissed off with the result, but do try and contain yourself. Congratulations to both sides. A contest between these two sides are always tough, even if one or both sides are having an off season. But its a good “away” win. Wish them a safe journey back to Bloem tomorrow. Vive La Grey
Sou graag van die Boishaaiers wou weet hoekom die plaasvervanger voorry so laat in die game opgebring is? Ek is van mening dat hy n impak gehad het en selfs teen die wind, bygedra het dat BH beter bal gekry het.
Grey 15-Boishaai 10 . Bog you must be on of the most irritating people on the plannet . What was meant is that Boishaai won the majority of the junior team games . I will send the exact number later .
@Andre T: Lyk my ons sal die begrip “amok” moet herskryf:
GCB U 14 15-45;
15 21-23;
16 19-9;
Thirds 20-11
Ek merk HJS se junior spanne maak amok
@Deon Pitzer: Where is ol’ Muzi to try and prove you wrong on that spindoctor point
@beet: It is not possible to defend the folks from Tswane. McKenna to some degree made Clinton look good, Perino, to a lesser extent managed to salvage Bush’s image, judge Mac Maharaj’s success for yourself, but no spindoctor can defend the rugby played by anyone aiming to play for any Bull side!
@BOG: Little to do with 1D Bog. Its fact. Coaches incl WDP of GCB love to get their hands on video material of their opponents beforehand. It definitely helps with preparation. There is a lot to learn about individual players even if you can’t anticipate tactics to be used.
I would like to add a disclaimer that this comment was in no way an attempt to defend the folks from Pretoria. They are on their own
@beet: Grey is from Bloemfontein and not Pretoria and watching their previous matches, will help a little, but they are certainly not one dimensional.
The Paarl Boys High team has been posted above
This could turn out to be a very interesting game. HJS has had a chance to study Grey via a few of the Grey games being televised live but for Grey HJS is a bit of an unknown quality.
Against Grey good defence is key. The are bound to find holes in primary D so secondaries and scramble D. Also conditioning. Grey may be small but they have good upperbody strength and on top of that match fitness to last the full 70 of a high tempo game. HJS don’t want to be run off their feet.
Will be exciting to see what assets HJS has. Results suggest there is something special about this team. It might not be in the indvidual abilities but rather in the unity and understanding of their play.
This should be a very easy game on paper for Grey but as we all know, this is between 4 lines and on the day anything can happen. The lower under 19 teams however will struggle and Grey should easily win these games. The lower age groups can be very nice games to watch with Boishaai under 14 and 15 maybe the favourites.
Good luck Boishaai and welcome to Paarl Grey . May good sportsmanship again be the winner between these two great schools. Grey is the by far the favourite but the Boishaai will give it their absolute best .