| DATE, TIME | TEAM | TEAM | DETAILS | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thu, 11 July 2013 | |||||
| 09h30 | Leopards | 64 | 0 | Border CD | |
| 11h00 | Valke | 44 | 24 | Griquas CD | |
| 12h30 | Griffons | 26 | 20 | EPCD | |
| 14h00 | EP | 14 | 40 | SWD | |
| 15h30 | Free State | 19 | 20 | Golden Lions |
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@Tjoppa: So die ligte daarbo is wel aan! Dis nie net ‘n weerkaatsing nie. Maar dan gaan ons maar die Floues en die Welpie manne moet TAT gee. Ou Bog gaan seker die o19:s en 21’s kyk. Hoor 8 PRG manne in die o19 span en Jan Uys is kaptein. Hy het laasjaar CW gemis weens besering. WP teen Cheetahs, altyd hard.
@Koos Roos:
Hoop nie jy assosieer my met die flou Bulle nie. Ek mag dalk minder intelegent wees maar stupid beslis nie. Skree juis vandag vir die Capies in al die wedstryde. So pasop.
Spoepol is beslis ‘n wanker as ek en jy dieselfde betekenis daaraan gee.
Feit 1 – Verskeie kere onsuksesvol verbind aan dames.
Feit 2 – Baie lief gewees vir die Russe ens by Teazers
Feit 3 – Deesdae maar wisselvallig met ekonomiese pogings.
Feit4 – Sy borskas het gesak en is nou gordyn vir sy viskas.
Feit5 – Bronstig soos ‘n 12 jarige.
Dus om saam te vat Hy is so lelik soos die nag, broke, sonder liefde en verskriklik bronstig. Wat sou jy se is doen hy 16 keer ‘n dag?
@Tjoppa: Eintlik is ek baie besig. My kopdokter het egter aanbeveel dat ek my met mindere intelegensie omring. Help glo met die selfbeeld. Lank gesoek. Toe loop ek jou en ‘n paar Flou Bul manne raak op dieblog. Hy se ek is nou baie beter. Hoe weet jy Spiestekkel is ‘n Wanker? Is jy ‘n voyer?
@Woltrui: Ou Wollie, kry solank Vaseline vir jou Flou Bul spannetjie. Dit gaan help vir die pyn. Daai boer maak ‘n mo%#se fout. Wie gaan hom verdedig? Ten minste kon die prokerower hom verdedig vir “poaching”!
Die regsgeleerdes, te wete die here Speartackle en Koos Roos, se gesprek laat my aan die ou storietjie dink.
Die boer dwaal af tydens staptog in die Kruger Wildtuin. Skielik storm n leeu op hom af aan sy linkerkant. Luiperd storm van regterkant. Gelukig maak n prokureur sy verskyning voor die boer. Die boer het rewolwer met net 2 patrone in. Wat doen die boer? Boer skiet die prokureur 2 x net om seker te maak natuurlik.
Welkom terug Spiester.
@Tjoppa: Vanoggend vra ons genade 8)
@Woltrui: Huh uh. Pumas oor Greystaat met 9. Verder alles ok. Genade of justice?
@Speartackle: Pokof suid Wanker
Vrystaat oor die Pumas met 15
Kwaggas oor die Magtige Bulle met 10
Strepies oor Monnas met 10.
Op Nuweland WP oor Bulle met 5.
Mag daar genade wees
@Tjoppa: Ek maak so Spermasem
@Speartackle: Nee nee jy moet Bogspruit toe. Dit is waar jy moet wees. Jy en Bog moet bure word. Dink net sy vyftig weeskinders en jou 103 dwergies en sy vrou, ja hy het een, om die lemonades aan te dra.
@Speartackle: Het jy jou mammas se camper al gehak. Onthou laai asb die dwergie en padda beeldjies ook op. Niemand gaan dit wil he nie. Wanker.
@Koos Roos: Na die edele regsbank toe waar almal se siening reg is en nie wat die wette bepaal nie. Hoor my lied die dag is baie naby waar spelers in die howe hul aksies op die speelveld gaan moet verdedig. Is bewus van ‘n Britse versekeraar wat besig is met die slim mense om risiko bepalings te doen om so ‘n polissie tot stand te bring. Waar gaan dit eindig.
@Koos Roos: Nee bewys net jy het niks om te doen nie en is lief vir tat praat.
@Speartackle: Ou Neelsie het ook by geleentheid vir die dominee gevra toe die vir hom gevra het of hy weet hoeveel huise hy in sy straat konbesit het as hy nie so gedrink het nie. Hoeveel huise hier in die straat is joune Dominee?
@Speartackle: Geniet hom! En onthou: Geen spiestekkels!
@Klofie Pa: Thanx vir daai artikel. Baie interessant! Nee wat ou Klofie, ons het lekker nat weer vir julle gereel en jul lynstaan lyk kwesbaar. Egter gemengde gevoelens. Uit SA oogpunt is Bulls wen beter en anders as sommige van jou Bul vriende hier in die Kaap, gun ek die sonskyn nou en dan op ‘n ander hond se gat.
@Koos Roos: Oom Koos, ek steur my nie aan die knoffelknolle hier nie, as ek wou maatjies maak sal ek by Datingbuzz aansluit. Wil soos Langenhoven se…………..50% van die knolle hier is ape………………of jammer………ek trek my woorde terug………….50% van die knolle hier is nie ape.
Eks nou al verby Nylstroom oppad Pietersburg toe, sien uit na die games.
@Speartackle: Ek sien Volsteedt was betrokke by daai eerste CW span. Was dit toe dat Grey die Vrystaat span gekaap het. Sien toe net 3 Grey manne. Bog help. Jy ken mos die geskiedenis. Sien Vrede het darem een in gehad en Tweespruit, wel Twee.
@Speartackle: Uiteindelik! ‘n Byt. Nee wat ou Spies, ek leer maar by julleOu Hande. Lyk my daar is net een vereiste. ‘n Mo@#se dik vel.
@Koos Roos: Smaak my jy is hoogs opgewonde vandag. Gaan eerder Tallas toe en staar na die see. Of jy n pappie of n kenner is weet ek nog nie, ek dink jys n pappie. Of daai drol van Pta Noord n pappie is glo ek nie, ek dink hys n flappie.
@Tjoppa: Tjoppie, wat maak jy van ‘n “ruling” soos met Wilhelm Steenkamp wat glo nie vir Boelie Butch wou seermaak nie. Dus geen opset en geen vuilspel. Die beampte BEVIND dit. MAAR.bevind hy glo ook. Hy was roekeloos deurdat hy te HArRD ingegaan het. Hoe op aarde moet ‘n speler voor hy ‘n losskrum inslaan bepaal of hy nou roekeloos gaan optree? Waar is ons heen oppad?
@Koos Roos: Julle WiePie moet maar die kospakkies inpak!! Gaan n lang dag wees vir julle ou Koos!!
Sien daar was daren 1 Gimmie in daai WP span. Twee dowe spelers in Boland span? As ek reg onthou het Tollie Oosthuizen ook ‘n gehoorgebrek gehad.
Nou ook in uitgelese groep top bloggers! Maak dit my ‘n kenner of bly ek ‘n pappie, Tekkelspies? 8)
Opstaan, opstaan! Nuweland wag en nog glorie wag virrie WeePee by CW. ‘n Paar koues of dalk soetes, en Flou Bloues gaan dit vervolmaak!
@tzavosky: Daai ouens wat die mobile toilets verhuur. Uh Uh hier kom tat.
@McCulleys Workshop: Yes, you are 100% correct. Unfortunately, St Alban’s does not have much depth, so when they lose top players their performances drop considerably…and most of their top players were missing for the last part of the season, including their SA schools player and Bulls players.
I’m not close enough to the 1st team to know if there are any other factors.
@Klofie Pa: Opmerklik dat die super skole toe nie so sterk in die prentjie kom nie, slegs paar PRG spelers, een Boishaai en geen Gimmie. Grey ook aansienlik minder en selfs ‘n plekkie vir Spiestekkel!
@BuffelsCM: lol die vingers was lank gewees daai tyd Buffel!! en nog steeds deesdae!
@Klofie Pa:Klofie ek is feitlik seker dit kon nie hy wees nie – hy was Min v Justisie vanaf 1961. As hy nog ook betrokke kon wees by ‘n rugbyspan: wel ek kan eenvoudig nie dink dat hy tyd gehad daarvoor nie ! Dalk ‘n familielid ?
let op na BJ Vorster! sou dit hy wees??!
met vergunning van Rugby365 die artikel!!
dankie vir die navorsing 365. Kyk net die verskillende skole in die onderskeie provinsies!!
This 2013 Craven Week is the 50th since the first in 1964. We record the players and their schools from that first Craven Week.
We do not have all the players’ initials unfortunately.
It would be interesting to see the shift in school power. Maritzburg College and Glenwood are sire still there but there are other schools that have increased their influence, including Grey College. In some cases the schools no longer exist.
There are some Springboks amongst the names below.
Boland: P Conradie (Robertson), K Carstens (Piketberg), J Carstens (Worcester School for the Deaf), R Schneider (Hermanus), J Fouché (Robertson), D Visser (Hopefield) (captain), J Cooper (Caledon), A Muller (Drostdy), R Kellman (Worcester Boys’ High), W Kotze (Wellington), T Hickman (Hopefield), F Pretorius (Wellington), D Wessels (Worcester Boys’ High), J Bruwer (Worcester Boys’ High), C Anthonissen (Calvinia), E Bestbier (Hopefield), W Visser (Hopefield), E Marais (Drostdy), B Meiring (Worcester School for the Deaf)
Management: SF le Roux (Piketberg), HJ Lochner (Wellington)
Border A: J McEvoy (Selborne), D Longmore (Queen’s), T Botha (Hangklip), M Cowley (Selborne), M Dickson (Dale), K Dovey (Selborne), J Maree (Grens), C Bussel (Dale), J Kranidiotis (Umtata), S Rees (Selborne), C van Onselen (East London Tech) (captain), Jennings (Dale), A de Wet (Selborne), R Els (Hangklip), R McConnell (Queen’s), Stickels (De la Salle), I Whithorn (Queen’s), J Steenkamp (Grens), L Weare (Selborne), M Cunard (Selborne)
Management: R Marais (Grens)
Border B: Stickels (De la Salle), M Kent (East London Tech), G Lombard (Grens), M Cunard (Selborne), A Tromp (Selborne), Field (Queen’s), R Hayse (Queen’s), T Webb (Queen’s), J Grogan (Selborne), D Smith (Selborne), L Weare (Selborne) (captain), M Wiggell (Queen’s), Filmer (Dale), I Whithorn (Queen’s), J Steenkamp (Grens), R Seymore (Cambridge), J Pienaar (Grens), Schreiber (Dale), B Ker-Fox (East London Tech), G Page (Selborne), Morrison (Dale), W van Lille (Grens), P Bezuidenhout (Grens), P Lawrenson (De la Salle)
Management: and Emslie (Selborne)
Eastern Province: P Coetzee (Die Brandwag), F Collins (Kingswood), D Castelyn (PJ Olivier), D Gradwell (St Andrew’s), G Crain (Muir), B Gillmer (Muir), G Cawood (Union High), J van der Merwe (Die Brandwag), S Terblanche (Pearson), P Wilson (captain) (St Andrew’s), R Parker (Pearson), A Troskie (Marlow), D Smith (Kingswood), M Denvon-Stevens (St Andrew’s), R Vice (Graeme), D Noble (Grey), J Langner (Gill), F Waldeck (Marlow), D Weyer-Henderson (Gill), H Roux (Pearson)
Management: SM Sauerman (Otto du Plessis)
Eastern Transvaal: P Krugel (Volkskool, Heidelberg), J Mare (Ermelo), B Bam (Ermelo), G Louw (Hoogenhout), M de Vos (Hoëveld Landbou), J Pienaar (Piet Retief), T Bester (Ermelo), P Oosthuizen (Hoogenhout), R McKechnie (Volkskool, Heidelberg), K van der Merwe (Standerton), J Joubert (Volksrust), G Kruger (Hoogenhout), P Engelbrecht (Hoëveld Landbou), T Kruger (Hoogenhout), G Dercksen (Hugenote), L Fourie (Volksrust), T Olivier (Piet Retief), F Froneman (Carolina), J Steenkamp (Carolina), C Flies (Delmas)
Management: C Liebenberg
Free State: A Roberts (Sentraal), T Potgieter (Tweespruit), B Cronjé (Shannon), P Burger (Grey), J van Pletzen (Bethulie), J van Rensburg (Sentraal), J de Kock (Grey), J Lategan (HTS Kroonstad), E van der Westhuizen (Odendaalsrus), P Nortjé (HTS Kroonstad), Potgieter (Dewetsdorp), Van Reenen (Bethlehem), Bezuidenhout (Hoërskool Kroonstad), Triegaardt (Tweespruit), Van Helsdingen (Sentraal), Venter (Vrede), Strydom (Grey)
Management: AK Volstedt (Grey), PW du Plooy (Jim Fouché)
Griqualand West: A Pienaar (Victoria-Ws), B Hauptfleisch (Diamantveld), F Slabbert (Landbouskool, Vaalhartz), F Forster (Kimberley Boys’ High), J Jansen (Griekwastad), H Roodt (Christiana), P Bothma (Griekwastad), D Sterley (Kimberley Boys’ High), M Cloete (Griekwastad), G Hough (Kakamas), C Becker (Olifantshoek), P Viljoen (Douglas), J Burger (North Cape Tech), A Kriel (Diamantveld), B van Heerden (Prieska), J Roets (Warrenton), A Nel (Hartswater), J Botha (Hartswater), J Scholtz (Victoria-Ws), R Billett (Kimberley Boys’ High)
Management: G Venter, H Duvenage
Natal: (AF Egner (Maritzburg College), BA Sharp (Maritzburg College), AE van der Watt (Maritzburg College), P Timm (Maritzburg College), DM Morrissey (Glenwood), NW Hayward (Glenwood), AJ Delport (Glenwood), RD Bickerton (Kearsney), AS Pringle (Maritzburg Tech), RD Shaw (Glenwood), AS Balmer (Maritzburg College), JG McKenzie (Maritzburg College), RB Hemming (Kearsney), PE Rutherford (Maritzburg College), DL O’Connor (Maritzburg College), AD Sclanders (Glenwood), AG Nicolson (Maritzburg College), M Guest (Alexander), N Hermer (Kearsney)
Management: OL Palin, J Nicholson
North Eastern Districts: J Opperman (Burgersdorp), J Serfontein (Burgersdorp), G Potgieter (Colesberg), J van Pletzen (Colesberg), D van der Merwe (Sterkstroom), K van Dyk (Aliwal-Noord), L Botha (Colesberg), A Norval (Sterkstroom), A Cloete (Burgersdorp), A Zietsman (Colesberg), L Hauptfleisch (Colesberg), W de Bruin (Dordrecht), R Greybe (Sterkstroom), H Putter (Burgersdorp), J Kruger (Burgersdorp), I Baker (Burgersdorp), J Herselman (Burgersdorp), J Delport (Molteno), Van Schalkwyk (Colesberg), F Oosthuizen (Aliwal-Noord)
Management: J le Roux
Northern Transvaal: JP van der Merwe (Affies), N Smith (Langenhoven), J Grobler (Tom Naudé), F Brits (Tom Naudé), C Oberholzer (Clapham), J van Blommenstein (Langenhoven), J Els (Tuine), J Bruwer (Landbouskool, Brits), C Oosthuizen (Tom Naudé), J Erasmus (Frikkie Meyer), D Bester (Frikkie Meyer), L Pool (Affies), J de Lange (Kuschke), D Gould (Capricorn), C van der Merwe (Nylstroom), G Prinsloo (Nylstroom), J Engelbrecht (Lydenburg), D Claasen (Middelburg), B Pretorius (Nylstroom)
Management: GJ Malherbe, BJ Vorster
Rhodesia: E Gilmaer (Chaplin), M Cowley (St Stephen’s), M Mullighan (Churchill), G Irvine (Churchill), K Lewis (Mount Pleasant), B Southwood (Chaplin), R Dale (Umtali), Van Zyl (Chaplin), Rau (Guinea Fowl), Coleshaw (Milton), Davies (Northlea), Weston (Umtali), Hobbins (Umtali), Stead (Churchill), Mitchell (Churchill), Rawlands (Chaplin), Rutters (Churchill), Yeo (Umtali
Management: J Buchanan, B van Blommenstein
South West Africa: L Botha (Windhoek), J van der Merwe (Windhoek), C Voges (Windhoek), B Heigan (Windhoek), J Louw (Otjiwarongo), W van Vuuren (Otjiwarongo), S van Vuuren (Outjo), H Henning (Otjiwarongo), F du Plessis (Windhoek), J Viljoen (Outjo), D Louw (Windhoek), K Louw (Otjiwarongo), P du Toit (Gobabis), C Lewis (Gobabis), D Derks (Gobabis), L von Moltitz (Windhoek), D Goussard (Keetmanshoop), O de Jager (Outjo), R Els (Outjo), (Windhoek)
Management: J Burger (Windhoek)
South Western Districts: J Steyn (HTS Oudtshoorn), A Olivier (Oudtshoorn), S Uys (Oakdale), D Gerber (Outeniqua), P le Roux (Oakdale), C Badenhorst (Oudtshoorn), P Nortier (Oudtshoorn), J Gerber (Outeniqua), A du Preez (Punt), N Muller (Oakdale), P Vosloo (Oudtshoorn), L le Grange (HTS Oudtshoorn), L Groenewald (Oakdale), H Mellish (Oakdale), P Uys (Montagu), G Pienaar (Outeniqua), S Grewe (Swellendam), W Marais (Montagu)
Management: CJ Hattingh (HS Langenhoven), MHC Kitshoff (Outeniqua)
Transvaal: C de la Rey (Monument), T Cilliers (H), C Hattingh (Fakkel), J Oosthuizen (Goedehoop), J van Niekerk (Jan de Klerk), J Potgieter (Florida), T Smalberger (Vereeniging), A Rabie (Voortrekker, Boksburg), M Eksteen (H), O Vorster (Kempton Park), M Nel (Afrikaans Hoer, Germiston), G van Vuuren (H) (captain), W Grobbelaar (Fakkel), P Strauss (H), J Gray (Florida Park), T de Vos (Transvalia), W Blignaut (Kempton Park), C Oosthuizen (Vereeniging Tech)
Management: W du Toit, P Malan
Western Province: M Coetzee (JJ du Preez), C Barrett (SACS), P de Villiers (Hottentots Holland), H Herbst (St Joseph’s), A Muller (Paarl Gimnasium), C Haytread (Wynberg), J Truter (Tygerberg Commercial), P Beyers (DF Malan), C Louw (Rondebosch), F du Plessis (JG Meiring), A Richards (Hottentots Holland), T Hoffman (Jan van Riebeeck), H Casserley (Paarl Boys’ High), M English (Wynberg), W de Vries (Paul Roos), J Vadas (Christian Brothers’ College), S Steele (Plumstead), D Ford (Durbanville), W de Jager (Zwaanswyk), F Viljoen (Paul Roos)
Management: CP Fourie, JG Oosthuizen
Western Transvaal: P Pretorius (HTS Wolmaransstad), M Einkaemerer (Schweizer-Reneke), I Joubert (Potchefstroom Gimnasium), H van der Linde (Potchefstroom Volkskool), M Marais (Lichtenburg) E Starke (Klerksdorp), J de Jager (Potchefstroom Volkskool), N Marais (Carletonville), T Grobler (Lichtenburg), J Fourie (Stilfontein), L van der Ryst (Carletonville), B Badenhorst (Lichtenburg), J Jacobs (Potchefstroom Volkskool), C Pitout (Lichtenburg), J de Bruin (Lichtenburg), M Herbst (HTS Potchefstroom), K Williams (Gimnasium), C Rossouw (Schweizer-Reneke)
@Tjoppa: Oorkant Magalieskruin NG kerk, teen Braam Pretorius Str.
@Muzi: May he be gone gone gone!
I just hope the Cheetahs can win against the Pumas because I don’t want Oom BOG to disappear for 6 months.
@RBugger:
I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of JD starting at 5 ahead of RG for the SA schools team if he’s 100% fit.
Last year Handre Pollard got injured during the craven week all of sudden two montha later he was starting at 10 ahead of Eksteen,Van der Walt and Jordaan in the 2012 SA Schools team.
@Speartackle:
but I did say that this Bulls side was not unbeatable….Didn’t you know?…I’ve got soft spot for the lions 8)……I’m backing them to beat the EP Queens..I mean Kings.
I can take the heat
That’s right those supporters ran away imagine if WP and the Lions were not in the final……to be honest with you I’d be gloating the whole day.
@Speartackle: Nou goeie wense en trek moer toe. Wanker.
@Tjoppa: Ja maar die Bantam moet hom trek
Het jy nog steeds die camper?
@Tjoppa: Ek het nou oorgeslaan na Nepalese.
@Speartackle: Die russe was maar mos altyd jou spesialiteit. My probleem is maar die rumatiek wat alles opfnok.
Klink of jy n Rus of Afghan daar Beet het.
@Tjoppa: Wat? Is jy dronk? Wat de fnok is sposor?
Kots eers gou dan vra jy weer
@Speartackle: Will Vrede Spar and nursery sposor?
@RBugger: I hope one day we can test ourselves against NZ schools. There should at least be a Tri Nations at u/20 level every year and even bring in Argentina as well. There’s enough money for that.
@Speartackle: We are playing against France, England and Wales – a lot of excitment for the boys getting to play these games for their countries.
Only the final game is televised – ie, WP vs Lions
@RBugger: Who will we be playing in the test matches and how many of tomorrow”s game will be live?
@tzavosky: Moet my bedoelings nie so edel nie. Wil dit vir die nuwe nag susterjie gee. Miskien eers met ‘n skon of so iets. Maar later gaan ons lekker blou wolke maak. Jou skoonpa se plot is waar?
@Tjoppa: Daai goed kan jy gaan pluk op my skoonpa se plot in Montana. Maar as jy dit wil gebruik vir hoes, Lexington werk beter.
@RBugger: Agree 100% pick only the best availabble.
@Tjoppa: Fair enough, I can’t and do not have an argument on that – they should be the best. But, if Snyman plays ahead of Schickerling, as I can assure you they will pick Schickerling as a number 5, it will not damage the team. Schickerling is ahead, but Snyman will give a good account of himself – no doubt about that.
Schickerling is also coming back from injury and to be thrown into Test Matches will be tough for him – as with the Doops, coming back from injury is not easy
@RBugger: I have to disagree give the boys at Craven Week the recognition by picking a CW team BUT if you pull the Green and Gold over your head you need to be the best.
@Ploegskaar: @tzavosky: As jy kan help met aaptwak, op ‘n voorskrif natuurlik, en daai blouetjie sal jy erge ondersteuning hier in die Noorde van Pretoria kry vir jou praktyk. Het jy ‘n cowboytjie op ‘n scooter vir aflewerings. Ek sal die despatch wees vir jou aptekie hier in die tehuis.
BHKPA: That is the thing, he has played SA Schools and has nothing to prove – would be nice to give the players at CW a chance to play in a test for their Country, I feel they have earned it.
It is also harsch on Schickerling and I feel for him, but like I said, he has been there done that and should now just concentrate and what lies ahead – the Big Boy ranks
We all know just how good he is and he will not be forgotten, he is there
@Ploegskaar: Nee ek sal ‘n Tzaneen truitjie verkies, soos ou Spear se Vrede een.
Maar dit smaak my ou Beet is in elk geval AWOL, met 3 dae laas ‘n nuwe onderwerp. Ek vermoed die KZN blog het sy ondergang beteken.
Final Day’s Programme
Stadium
09.15: Zimbabwe vs Namibia
10.45: Border vs KwaZulu Natal
12.15: Blue Bulls vs South Western Districts
13.45: Free State vs Pumas
15.15: Western Province vs Golden Lions
B Field
09.15: Limpopo vs Eastern Province Country Districts
10.45: Griffons vs Boland
12.15: Eastern Province vs Valke,
C Field
09.15: Border Country Districts vs Griquas
10.45: Griquas Country Districts vs Leopards
@RBugger: I agree on the fairness issue, however he played SA schools last year and did well in the tests that I saw. Is a great enforcer also not just a 5lock.
BHKGPA: Yes, I have seen him play and he is blady good – Snyman and Schickerling are like for like players, Schickerling being the bigger built boy. To me, both players are number 5 locks not the enforcers who generally occupy 4. Schickerling is very skillful and an open player – he would be my number 5 but is it fair to pick injured players… I am not sure, some of these boys give everything at CW and may find it unfair if an injured player get picked.
Either which way, Schickerling is a known and has nothing to worry about – his future to date is set, SA Schools or no SA Schools
@RBugger: JD Schickerling is in a league of his own. No lock in any CW team comes close to this guy, pity he is injured. Just maybe they will look at a few injured players?
@Muzi: Agreed, Snyman is blady good and clever in attack – needs a big enforcer alongside him – Du Preez comes to mind
@BuffelsCM: I do not think the training is as good as some make out or would think it is – I have been to watch a few training sessions, and it all looks based around power – gym work and ruck work – all power based really.
The guys seem to be losing explosive-ness, rather just relying on their heavy body weights to try and get through a tackle.
Also, the fitness does not look all too good – hahahah, have you heard some of the breathing on the refs mic – it sounds as if some oaks are on their last legs at times
@Muzi: Actually sad how the OFS, KXN and Bulls supporters have gone dead quiet. Except you………….but then I know deep down you’re actually a big Lions supporter. 8)
@Ploegskaar: Think one of those darts hit Bog
@RBugger: I agree with those comments regarding the boys getting bigger (only). Should they not be advised by knowledgeable trainers to ensure that they keep their pace ? I guess some schools’ coaches don’t really care………….to them it is about the immediate “advantage” of having bigger and stronger boys available to their teams.
@Muzi: If you throw a handful of darts, at least one or two should hit the dartboard
@RBugger:
That’s why I rate RG Snyman very highly unlike the other big locks he uses his speed and instead of going down very easily he looks to off load in contact ditto the beckhams I mean doops.
Some guys are still stuck in their one -dimensional view of how the SA school team should look and who should or will make the team. Trying to express their propaganda. There are fortunately other provincial teams than WP, Blue Bulls, SWD and Cheetahs which also have very good players that can qualify. You will all be in for a big surprise
@Muzi: Staying at WeePee as far as I know
@tzavosky: Sal so maak, @Beet kan dan seker vir jou ‘n Ben Vorster truitjie aantrek, sal kan doen hier met ‘n dokter vir hartpille, kateterkleppe, gekneusde ego’s en @speartackle se ingroei toonnaels.
@Ploegskaar:
Where is Heinrich Buhr going to after school he’s a very good versatile player.
@Ploegskaar:
Thys and Wilco very good business from Xander’s team.
Hanro Liebenberg and Johan du Toit for sa schools…….
@BuffelsCM: A few of the number8’s have looked a bit heavy – it seems to be a trend, get as big as you can, regardless of whether or not you lose speed in the process.
Rob Du Preez made a comment 2 days ago which is very relevant, the boys seem obsessed with getting bigger but are losing speed and not concentrating on speed.
@Ploegskaar: Nee maar, kyk, ek lees die blog nog heel jaar en uit beskeidenheid sê ek maar niks – ons ouens van Limpopo het só baie om oor beskeie te wees, maar ou GavCT se gat, die CW is lekker hier.
As jy wil weet hoe Limpopo rugby werk, moet jy daai KZN-blog gaan lees, vervang net Glenwood met Ben Vorster en Westville met Merensky, dan is dit presies dieselfde.
Ek is nie verbaas dat jy niemand van Limpopo in jou skolespan het nie, maar die probleem is hulle laat ons en Griekwas teen internasionale spanne soos Zim en Nam speel, maar as Engeland kom, kies hulle ‘n span uit al die ander CW spanne. Erg onbillik dink ek.
In elk geval, geniet Ladismith. As jy daar teen Barrydale se hoogte uitry, loer maar af na die rugbyveldjie en dink aan my.
@BuffelsCM: From what I have heard, a squad of 28 will initillay be picked for the 3 Tests – therafter, a high performnace squad will be picked – think this includes about 50 boys or so.
@Muzi: That is the problem, as an 18yr old, his first thought is to make SA Schools regardless of whether or not he causes further damage – personally, he I was the manager, I would not play him – SA Schools is great for your pride, but in the long run, it is not the be all and end all.
Anyway, I will be watching him to see if he can run tomorrow
@Ploegskaar: Goed dankie vir die squad van 28;
@Speartackle: Ek het Hanro Liebenberg verlede jaar in ‘n skolewedstryd sien speel en hy het my baie beïndruk. Dit lyk vir my egter of hy effens stadiger is as verlede jaar….of sal ek sê ek dink hy het effens spoed verloor. Hy bly steeds ‘n harde werker en stuit vir niemand nie.
Ek dink daar is ‘n paar agstemanne bo hom op hierdie stadium
@oxry: SWD 38 Bulle 14. WP 44 Lions 18 en op Nuweland sal dit WP 26 Bulle 22 wees. Hoe dan nou anders as ons hier woon? Ons forwards (Kwaggas en Oakdalers) het nie lekkker uit die blokke gekom nie.
@Speartackle: Moontlik, sonder hom het Drostdy gister teen Piketberg verloor by die Swartland Rugby Fees. Ek rate hom ook minder as meeste, maar wat weet ek.
@BuffelsCM: 28 man squad
@Muzi: Thysa is on my players to watch list for the future. Strong scrummager, super fit, carries up very strongly and loves the big hits. Maybe the new benchmark for a modern 3? Big call, but one of the best signings for the Bulls.
Moenie verbaas wees as Boland nr 8 ook span maak
@Djou: Daai is ‘n span vol manne wat net sal jol, mag ‘n paar lek maar sal altyd meer druk
@bhkgpa: Het hulle nie verlede jaar begin met ‘n vergrote groep spelers waaruit die SA-skolespan gekies word nie ? M.a.w nie ‘n 22 nie maar 35+.
Ek is onseker miskien kan Beet help of iemand anders wat dalkweet ??
@RBugger: I really hope Schramm has recovered enough to be able to play. As I’ve said after the first match (in which he only played for 35 minutes), he has impressed me a lot. Do you perhaps know if a SA Schools’ side will be selected or a group of players from which a side will be picked for the 3 “internationals” during August. If that is the case Schramm should make a larger squad.
A relative of JD Schickerling told me that the selectors will still consider him for SA Schools – or at least that is what he has been told
@Ploegskaar:
…..Matthys Basson is one of the fittest tight head props I’ve seen in a long time….damn strong as well.
Beerwinkel is fat and fast but weak around the waist
@RBugger:
………..agree with you it’s a bad move hamstrings usually take 4-6 weeks to fully heel perhaps he wants another 50 metre dash to the try line so he can make sa schools.
That’s correct Velleman is defintely out injured…….pity Schraam is not going to the Bulls
@oxry: Ek reken die WP pak hou die sleutel. As Bothma en kie so gaan oorheers soos teen die Bulletjies, gaan dit ‘n laaang middag vir die Welpies raak.
@Ploegskaar: Ploegie, praat maar as ek moet help met die afleweringskoste van daai medisyne in Blomfontein.
@Ploeg: Hou van meeste van jou keuses. Net, wie gaan die verdediging in die middeveld doen. Kan nie heeltyd van die voorspelers verwag om die senters se werk te doen nie.
@Speartackle: Ou Spiestekkel, sal net vir Netta by vat as die ou enetjie wat so ‘n snaakse Russiese aksent gehad het by is. Lyk my jy ken die karakters. Wat was haar naampie nou weer. Verder kan ons maar kies soos ons wil. Die keurders gaan ons hier en daar verras.
@RBugger: Would be a pity, really rate him, then the FS OS (Rampete?) will do
@Muzi: Just as a matter of intersest, Schramm has put his name forward for tomorrow and will play…
I sincerely hope he comes through unscathed as after practice he said he felt a bit tendar but really wants to play for the cause of the team – good spirit, just not sure if it is the most wise of calls.
WP vs Leeus
Ek glo dit gaan ‘n baie harde wedstryd wees. Die een wat die vastefasette gaan oorheers, gaan as oorwinnaar van die veld stap.
Ek is ‘n WP ondersteuner as SWD nie speel nie. My gevoel is dat WP voorlangs gaan domineer en dan daardie gevaarlike agterlyn gaan gebruik om die Leeus mal te hardloop. Bothma en Vermeulen gaan die Leeus goed besig hou. Du Toit gaan wys hoekom hy in die SA span moet wees.
Harris sal maar moet begin opwarm. Met kwaliteit bal gaan hulle hom lekker rond jaag.
@Muzi: Just a tad, even the 10 and Vers looked top heavy. Stuff fast big guys, I’ll take a nimble fatty every time after yesterday
As ek reg onthou word slegs spelers gekies wat wel by CW gespeel het vir SA skole span?
@tzavosky: Dok, ek ry vanmiddag Ladismith toe (en bitter vinnig deur Barrydale), dus uitstekende tydsberekening dat jy weer hier verskyn! ‘n Professionele vraag, het jy ‘n kwaksalf wat werk vir dikbek, lieg, tweegevreet en meerderwaardigheid? Indien wel gaan jy lekker geld maak hier
@Muzi@Ploegskaar: Been told Velleman is out with ligament damage – is this true?
@tzavosky:
I agree with you Daniel and RG will be the two locks…
@Ploegskaar: I was just think about the something perhaps they’re related…..the lions full back looked chubby and round….I think he’s out of shape.
@RBugger: Way back in the early eighties dad Robert was one of the first okes in Potch to sport the mullet hairstyle.
@Ploegskaar: Ploeg, jy kan nie daai twee slotte saam speel nie, te eenders. JD Schickerlingh saam met Snyman, al is hy beseer. Anders Daniel Du Preez of Rhyno Herbst.
@Muzi: I still prefer Jannie Du Plessis’ Def Leppard look.
@Muzi: Did the Lions 15 not remind you of Beerwinkel in his prime? Striking resemblance, in tjoep-size and kicking style, equally accurate as well
@Speartackle: Now that you mention it, I am sure I saw Mr Du Preez sporting the comb over! I guess that is where Beckham got the idea, sent his wife around SA looking for hairstyles and after she had visited the West Rand, she came back looking a little flushed with a side parting – no foul play expected!
@Muzi: Shame, I would not like to be there when they put hijm through the fitness drills – ouch! Ya, I watched that game and Linde looked a little bit shell shocked, but he was still a year young and the Frog centres looked like men!!!!
@Ploegskaar: Maybe, maar Woensdag het hulle meer gelyk soos Fynbos in n Rooiels storm
@Muzi: Exactly. Watched him closely yesterday and he was mostly strolling around the park.
Anyway, my info from someone very close to the Bulls’ team.
@Speartackle: @RBugger:
Um talking about hair styles what on earth was Obi the Nigerian baby boks player thinking?!?
Sjoe the man looked like a central dark african warrior.
@Speartackle: Hulle was ok in die eerste game, tussen ‘n ordentlike voorry en lostrio sal hulle blom soos WP Disas. Sou Eksteen (SWD) ook op die bench gehad het in Staperlberg se plek as hy reg was.
@Ploegskaar: Very strong looking team – would love to see that centre pairing and with Human at flyhalf, would be very very exciting to watch
@RBugger: Did you know that all hairstyles actually originate on the West Rand
@RBugger:
Yes Linde the outside centre he had problems with defence last year in the sa schools side gelant eventually replaced him.
@RBugger:
Eish before he gets to loftus the poor lad has to get rid of that massive beer boep.
@Muzi: Are you refering to the centre? If so agreed – I do not recall seeing him make a tackle at this CW – I may be wrong?
@tzavosky: Jammerte v Wyk beseer, dan sou die skrums waarskynlik kon staan.
@Ploegskaar:
let’s hope we don’t have another Beerwinkel situation. 
Even the quota players in your side are good
@Ploegskaar: Dan kan jy net so wel Chris Froome vir die time trials kies as jy jou nie aan die kriteria steur.
Daai slotte van jou bietjie shaky……………..sou n goeie senter kombinasie wees.
@Muzi: Some weight, how about 30kg of weight. He is not an athlete, rather just big for big sakes
@RBugger:
One thing I noticed with Linde when the game is tight he struggles to impose himself also on defence he was a bit shy when schraam ran at his channel.
Jurie thrives in open play I think he will have to get more involved senior rugby is not schoolboy rugby.
@Speartackle: What do you mean not the Zim’s – The Beast is from Zim and just had his hair done.
Brendan Venter has been living in the UK for a long time now and had enforced the Beckham hairstyle on all KZN players – he said it is fashionable and looks good with a leather man bag
@Speartackle: Ja, ek sien so, maar dit smaak my ou Beet se diskoers boggher dinge net so op soos daai Disqus affêre.
In elk geval, jou Leeutjies beïndruk my baie met hulle ghymplan en samespel voorlangs. Weet net nie of dit teen WP ook gaan werk nie, maar ek sal hulle nie afskryf nie. Harris se skopvoet is dodelik – ek dink hy het net een skop gemis so ver, in dit was teen die paal vas. Gerdus vd Walt se lang skoppe ook goed, so hulle kan julle in die ghym hou, mits julle WP voor kan domineer, wat nie maklik gaan wees nie.
Voldoen aan geen van die genoemde kriteria, dalk booswig/boef, maar so lyk hy:
15 Viljoen (VS)
14 Hermanus (WP)
13 Linde (BB)
12 Galant (SWD)*
11 v/d Merwe (SWD)
10 Human (SWD)
9 Daniels (OP)
8 Bothma (WP)
7 Vermeulen (WP)
6 Velleman (OP)
5 Snyman (BB)
4 Andrews (BB)
3 de Jager (OP)
2 Dweba (Leeus)
1 Nche (VS)
16 Du Plessis (WP)
17 du Toit (WP)
18 Kramer (VS)
19 D du Preez (KXN)
20 Louw (VS)
21 Phillips (BB)
22 Stapelberg (OP)
23 Jaer (OP)
*indien nie beseer, anders du Plessis (WP)
@tzavosky:
That SWD tighthead needs to lose some weight geez.
@HORSEFLY NO.1:
It was the doops against the opposition other than kicking for posts and touch the twins did all the work 90% of the KZN players were there just to make up the numbers.
@Ruggersake: You may not include Zimbabweans
@Muzi: Yes, Vermuelen was awesome in that game.
The truth is, the competition for the loosies is massive – there are so many brilliant loose-forwards at this CW – you could easily pick 3 teams of loose forwards whoi would be just as competant at SA School Level as the next.
It is a shame we do not have the same amount of competition at centre or wing
@Muzi: I noticed that………………..imagine how fearsome they would look with brushcuts
@Speartackle: @RBugger:
Metrosexual rugby players……
The Doops definitely deserve their SA Schools selection should they get it. They’ve been very good in a below-par kzn team
@Muzi: After tomorrows performances Iwill reveal a world beating sqad….
@Speartackle:
everytime the du preez bro’s got up from the ground they kept on checking if their beckhams were still neat with their fingers….
@Muzi: Neither will their ‘pappies’
@RBugger:
Agree the Bulls couldn’t stop Rikus the machine he played with a smile on his face even Vermuelen was brutal.
Wp were ruthless some of those bulls players will never forget that loss.
@Muzi: They all blady do – what next, is rugby going that way? Diamond earings to follow
@Muzi: I believe Beet is still having his done
@Speartackle: You killed me before my early lunch the beckhams
priceless!!!!
@Muzi: I do like Bothma and he did sort himself out against the Bulls – good on him. I like the way he conducts himself on a filed and how he leads from the front.
Just wish Schramm had not been injured – having the 2 of them in the squad pushing each other would have been good for the team
@RBugger:
Even schraam had a David Beckham.
@Speartackle: hahahhahaha – the Beckhams… what is up with the hairstyles, it is so funny to watch – most the boys have this comb over thing going and often just before they get the ball, they side wind their hair, really funny to watch…
Glad that you realise the importance of enforcers in a pack – too much flash and a pack will get demolished
@Speartackle:
@tzavosky: 1957?………………kan dit sien………………..jy adresseer jouself.
@RBugger:
Schraam has x-factor the lad is a match winner IMHO he would have been the first choice sa schools number 8 pity he’s injured.
Bothma has been superb this whole season but he went missing in action against the Pumas….suddenly he cranked it up against the Bulls that’s a sign of a class player.
@Muzi: Can’t be………………..he is in his fifties already
@Muzi: SWD!
@RBugger: I agree old bugger.
The Beckha……..I mean Dups are the only 2 real enforcers at this year”s CW and Schramm is the full package.
@tzavosky: Ek watch vir jou en Ploeg. Het mos laasjaar al vir julle gesê ek kom CW toe oor ek nie in 1975 kon gaan nie, toe sê Ploeg ek is ‘n ouman. So, as jy hom raakloop, sê vir hom ek sê sy mour.
@Speartackle:
Mr Herbst has a lions junior contract….coach Barend Schoeman is already making a big impact in the junior structures.
A good looking SA Schools team – but the Doops will be there!
It is a massive shame Schramm got injured, as he would have been my choice at 8 – there are a lot of good, strong number 8’s – but in terms of the full package and excitment he brings, Schramm looked potent. For me, him and Bothma ahead of the rest.
@CharlesZA:
hmmm be careful about what you say concerning the du preez bro’s last month I was told I’m jealous because I said baby bok flyhalf Robery du Preez was average.
Ryno Herbst following in his dad and brother’s footsteps:
Dad Danie: SA High Hurdles champ and Transvaal wing
Brother Barend : Lions CW, Gauteng cricket, golf and athletics
Ryno : Lions CW, Gauteng cricket and SA champ Discus………………Can he improve and make SA Schools?……………………most probably next year.
@Speartackle: Sover ek weet nie een nie. Myne is nou eers in Graad 9, maar ek begin solank opwarm vir my drie jaar voor ek weer verdwyn.
@Ruggersake:
may you please give us your unpredictable team sir?
@Muzi: Pity cause they dont deserve it. Have been sub-par all week.
@Predator: En Frans van Wyk
@OudUppie: @oxry:
Jean-Luc and Daniel du Preez will definitively be included in the sa schools side.
@oxry: a good predictable one dimension team
@OudUppie: Watter OVS speler hierbo se ‘pappie’ is jy? Sommer 5 van OVS ? Jy kort nog 4 demografiese keuses.
Nogal jammer dat ‘n speler van Schickerling se formaat oorgesien gaan word, hy sal sekerlik van sy besering herstel het as ons die Noordelike Halfrond manne aanvat. ‘n Uitstaande rugbyspeler in my opinie. Sou graag Gelant ook weer in die SA span wou sien,….sakke vol talent
@Speartackle:
Who’s the lions craven week head coach Hans Coetzee must surely be involved….
Hoe lyk die “pappies” en die kenners se SA span na die eerste twee dae. As ‘n “pappie” is die my span: 15 Viljoen (VS); 14 Hermanus (WP); 13 Linde (BB)’ Du Plessis (WP); 11 V/D Merwe (SWD); 10 Human (SWD), 9 Phillips (BB); 8 Bothma (WP) Captain; 7 Vermeulen (WP); 6 Maartens (Pumas); 5 RG Snyman (BB); 4 Henson (Leeus); 3 Kramer (VS); Du Plessis (WP); 1 Nche (VS); 16 Du Toit (WP); 17 Dweba (Leeus); 18 V/D Merwe (WP); 19 Herbst (Leeus); 20 Louw (VS); 21 Janjies (WP); 22) Mgijima (VS); Harris (Leeus).
EW Viljoen has been unimpressive…..last year Worral,Kriel and Hayward were by far better full backs.
@oxry: Goeie span,… du Preez ( KZN )op slot,.. losskakel en scrumhalf moeilik om te kies,…Harris het omtrent foutloos gespeel hy het baie BMT. Ek dink daar sal dalk ‘n akademie speler ook gekies word.
@Muzi: 29-11 to WP
Hou ook van albei WP hakers maar ek dink Ruan sal volgende jaar sy kans kry, hoogtyd dat n Wes Transvaler weer SA Skole kry, dink die laaste een was Ruan Venter.
@tzavosky:
Um from which team?
@PaarlBok:
It looks like Burger van Niekerk is on his way to loftus.
@oxry: du toit is n loskop en nie vaskop nie.
@oxry: Lekker span, maar sou Velleman op 6 he, Ntshe op 1, Andrews op 4 en Jaer en OVS 6 op bench. Dink OP se 9 mag dalk ook feature.
@tzavosky: Tsafendas, waar kruip jy uit?
@oxry: Lyk na n goeie span ou Oxry, ek sal du Preez op slot kies en miskien die WP loskop ook insluit.
Weet ook nie mooi van die 9 nie.
Demografiese keuses gaan ook jou span beinvloed
@Muzi: Muzi, and apparently that impressive TH prop as well. That’s the rumour going around the Peter Mokaba stadium here in Polokwane.
My SA SKOLE SPAN:
15. Viljoen (VS) of Harris ( Leeus ) Laaste game sal dit bepaal
14. Hermanus ( WP )
13 Linde ( Blou Bulle )
12. du Plessis ( WP )
11. vd Merwe ( SWD )
10. Goso ( Leeus )
9. van Zyl ( Blou Bulle )
8. Bothma ( WP )
7. Vermeulen ( WP )
6. Louw ( VS )
5. Snyman ( Blou Bulle )
4. v Niekerk ( WP )
3. du Toit ( WP )
2. Reynecke ( Grens )
1. Zaaiman ( Pumas )
Net onseker van no.4 nog.
@Predator: Stem, maar dis mos maar menslik om bietjie gatvol vir die ref te wees. Die VS moes egter nooit dat daai strafskop ‘n verskil gemaak het nie. Hulle het die game verloor met die stut fiasko. Dink ook Andrew se lystaan ingooie was in die 2de helfte swak – hy gaan egter nog ‘n goeie haker word – maar eers onlangs begin haker speel. Vir die wat wonder – Ruan Kramer gaan volgende jaar Sharks toe – behoort ‘n baie sterk scrum saam met Du Toit te vorm.
Just heard on OFM traffic report warning motorists to look out for a balding, elderly male sitting in the middle of the road between Kuruman and Vryburg, eating carrots. Now I know that Bog is a rep in the Christiana area but didn’t know he has been promoted to the Northern Cape.
@Speartackle: Praat van verlede Desember.
@oxry: Ja boet, sien meer op as uit na daai trip, maar sal daar wees. Kom skud blad en kyk ‘n deel van die game saam met my, dan kan ons mekaar lekker slegse.
@Muzi: Think he’ll be contracted with the 7s.
@Ploegskaar: Ag nee fnok, moet my net nie se jy gaan vakansie hou in Langebaan.
@OudUppie: @BOG Die score is op die bord, die koeel deur die kerk, water onder die brug, daar was gedurende die week baie betwisbare beslissings maar ek glo maar dat die ref blaas wat hy gesien het op daardie stadium. ek dink julle het die game verloor toe die verkeerde stut ingespan word op vasskop, maar julle weet definitief meer van die Vrystaat span as ek. Dit was ‘n baie gelykop game in my opinie.
@Koos Roos: Dog jy gaan solank hoofpawiljoen toe……………sal met jou n deal maak………………ek stuur die kamera maar dan moet jy vir Netta Nortje ook bykom.
@Speartackle: Maak so, dan vertel ek jou van my Desember. Of beter, kry my e-pos by Beet, hou sneesdoekies byderhand.
Nou ja manne en Spies, ek gaan eers groet. Het ‘n heruitsending van 7de Laan om op te vang.
As entoesiastiese rugbyondersteuner wat altyd n aanskoulike wedstryd waardeer wil ek eintlik net gister se skeidsregter loof vir die manier wat hy OVS in die wedstryd gehou het om van dit n riller te maak.
@Speartackle: British Lions ?
@Speartackle: Op ‘n lekker plek maw. Ja. BTW ek sien jy het laptops die landvol. Het jy nie enetjie met daai kameratjie wat videos maak, vir my nie? Dan maak ek ‘n video vir jou van die soenery.
@OudUppie: Agree there.
@Speartackle: Niks verkeerd met ‘n multiple personality disorder nie, ten minste is jou vriende naby. Wat score jy vir die hoof game Saterdag?
@oxry: As ‘n Cheetah ondersteuner wil ek dit nie graag gese het nie. Hoewel die VS hulle self in die voet geskiet het met sekere besluite het die ref net so lekker saam geskiet. En ek stem saam met Bog – daai laaste strafskop moes nie gewees het nie. Rautenbach was op sy voete!! Sterkte aan die Leeus julle gaan dit nodig he teen die WP
@Queenian: Where will the sponsorships come from to keep that union going,….must admit that the Kings impressed me but IMO not better than the LIONS,..would be interesting to see what Cheeky Watson will come up with if they loose!!
@Queenian: Become part of the British Lions
@Koos Roos: Agter jul hoofpawiljoen
@Predator: Die koshuisvader wil my uitskop…………..hy het my 24 uur gegee om vriende te maak………………ek sukkel nog al die jare daarmee…………….wil jy nie seblief my maatjie wees?
Ek moes op Rugby365 op n staduim 11 karakters skep net om n geselsie te kry. Daai ouens was darem kenners…………………Duppie, Proppie, Nonnie, Bekommerd, Festus February, Elsie, Johan Beyers, Comrade Joe ens. Een ding wat ek net nooit kon verstaan was dat niemand wou glo ek is nie Andre T nie.
@Speartackle: @Koos Roos: Who on earth is Felicity?
@Rugbyman: Mag die beste span wen!!,..ek hoop nie die manne wat volgende jaar vir julle gaan speel, aanvaar geld om die game te gooi nie ,…
@Predator: Ou Spiesie het glo een episode van Getroud Rugby gekyk. Vandaar sy meesterkennis!
@Roger: What the Lions going to do if they don’t beat the Kings?
@Speartackle: Waar?
@Koos Roos: Ek was so bekommerd dat ek dalk nie verder mag deelneem aan die blog agv my lack of experience nie. Ek sou dalk wragtig 7de Laan moes kyk as Spear my uitskop.
@Koos Roos: Sal jy vir Felicity soen?
@Speartackle: Sorry from Selborne grammar was never my strong point at school.
@Speartackle: Maar as jy belangstel . Ja, ek kyk 7de Laan!
@Koos Roos: Nee, ek raak dors, speel tennis, vroetel met vrouens maar eks naweke af.
@Queenian:
Simon Bolze will join Joshua and JP at the Bulls.
@Queenian: Sorry there, I made a mistake. I understand now what you wrote. I’m going to switch from wine to Rum now. Wine is bad for eye sight. Sorry mate.
@Speartackle: Is jy ‘n speurder?
@Ploegskaar: As jy reg gelees het, het ek nie die Leeus se oorwinning afgemaak omdat die ref foute gemaak het nie. Hy het beide kante toe foute gemaak en regtig volgens my opinie ‘n baie middelmatige vertoning gelewer.
Andre Watson het by ‘n geleentheid gesê ( na WB 2011 ), dat ‘n skeidsregter nie foute mag maak wat die uitslag van ‘n wedstryd mag beinvloed nie. Volgens my was die laaste spelgedeelte wat daartoe gelei het dat ‘n strafskop aan die Leeus toegeken is, eindelik ‘n strafskop wat na die Cheetahs toe moes gegaan het.
Julle kom mos PLAAS toe. Die BULLE van Oakdale wag julle in.
@PaarlBok:
Ryan is Bulls player….. :mrgreen:….just joking sir.
@Koos Roos: Oom Koos, is jy n pappie of n kenner?
@Queenian: Is he now from Selborne or Queens or should I repeat the question in afrikaans?
@Speartackle: ‘Gosa was the best flyhalf this week not sure who has signed him though.
Lions signed a host of valke players….and some Garsfontein players.
@maroon8: Daar is ‘n liedjie met die woorde “dream dream dream”. Maar ek stem saam.
@Speartackle: Selborne the Queens No10 is playing 12 for Border.
@Ploegskaar: Kan nou nog nie glo jyt my gesidestep in Desember, ek gee jou nog n kans, eks weer Desember daar, die keer is die toernooi op Bellville. Mos meer in jou kraal of hoe?
@Koos Roos: One of the Zim boys I think he played 15 was the kids that pitched at Dale in January but they could not raise a sponser for him.
@Predator: Nee bliksem Dierasie… Ek bloei nog na die WP ons opgedonner het… Bets are closed for this year…
@Muzi: WP is ‘n baie sterk provinsie en Bulle kan gelukkig wees want beserings het die kies van ‘n sterker span gekortwiek,veral wat betref die vaste5.
Die kies van ‘n WP plattelandse span sal moet aandag kry want hier is talentvolle seuns wat nie kanse kry nie. Dit sal ‘n sterk span wees maar die wyses sal seker kap daarteen. Dit sal dan WP @ wp platteland in ‘n finaal kan raak…………..hoe dan?
Dit sal goed wees om te sien uit hoeveel skole die WP kies met die samestelling van hul span byvoorbeeld as jy vergelyk met SWD byvoorbeeld wat hul span uit klein hoeveelheid skole kies. En Bulle.En ander streke wat hul provinsiespan het asook daardie provinsie se plattelandse span en wat die redes daarvoor is.
Ek kan nie sien hoekom SARU se skolebestuur nie so ‘n stap as ‘n positiewe kan laat geskied nie
@Speartackle: Ek is seker daardie nuus het sy hart verbly! LOL
@Queenian: Where is the Border 10 from?
@Amalekite: Ye agree KZN seem to be playing with some baggage in the cupboard.
@Muzi: I think Zim can be proud of their performance! These boys certainly don’t get the same opportunities, our kids get. They allmost have a free style of rugby. Loved it.
@Queenian: @Queenian: I have not seen Border play, but I can tell you that they will beat KZN if we play like we have been at CW.
Without any disrespect to the Pumas, I do not believe that they are 22 points better than KZN. I just think that there is something that is missing in our camp. It normally comes from above and filters down. I do not see the team spirit and the hard graft coming through. We also seem to lack leadership and direction.
Having said that, I wish the boys well for tomorrow’s game and hope that they go out with a bang. May the best team win!
@Speartackle: Hey Spear you being here makes it to interesting to go and watch a soapie you the ‘Blog” own online soapie.
@maroon8: Ek sien ook nie Ryan oosthuizen se naam daar nie. Sal maar sien wie gaan bly en ry.
@Koos Roos: Oom Koos, ek pla sommer die Predatoor. Eintlik is Kwaggas my 2de favourite span.
@Muzi: Do you know where the Border 10 is going. He impressed me.
@Predator: Ek vermoed die Vrede op Spiesie se bors , het tikkel tokkel met vrede te doen. Sommige spesies is egter interessant om dop te hou. Kom ons geniet dit.
@Predator: Tussen hierdie besige skedule, kry jy darem kans vir 7de Laan?
@RBugger: what position did he play?
@Koos Roos: ja,stem……moet net nie vaskop gaan speel nie!
@Speartackle:
I think Meneer Beet can answer that question…..I wouldn’t be surprised at all…..even the full back Brendon Mandivenga was impressive also the flyhalf Rukudzo Gona wasn’t bad.
@Speartackle: Dit hang af watter een jy wil aanvat,..ek het nog seuns op skool,..maar nie by CW betrokke nie,….kenner?,..dit hang af wat jou definisie van kenner moet wees,…was al keurder, het al afgerig, het al 4 jaar op beheerraad sport hanteer, het self provinsiaal gespeel, lees koerant, kyk boots & all, kyk REUNION,ry agter skool sport aan, woon praatjies( manne aande met legendes ) by, lees biografiee, support die bokke en skree op die WP as ons nie wen nie. Waar sal jy my klassifiseer?
@Speartackle: Het jy nog my CV? Kan weer die Lebanese courier stuur maar moenie met hom praat nie, hy sal net weer organe aan jou probeer afsmeer.
@maroon8: Die loskop van Vrystaat met die tongknoper naam is ook goed.
@maroon8: Dit sal mos nie ‘n eerste vir WP wees nie. Jammer ons kon nie meer van Van Wyk sien nie.
@RuggaZ: black and white of KZN or of Hilton? With the benefit of hindsight, I think he made the right choice. If he was chosen as the flyhalf for KZN (debatable whether he is better than the current Kearsney chap) and given KZN’s performance I am pretty sure he would not have shone like he has with the Lions.
@Speartackle:
……what happened to the enforcers in this craven week tournament?
Morning Oom
That’s one of the main reasons why the Bulls tight five was bullied in the contact situations against WP.
@Amalekite: agree on the gees – seems everyone at the Union has a point to prove to the rugby community. Invariably written off – they produce the goods more often than not. I think the Lions Craven week coaches have got it spot on as well – obviously a good set up to be part of.
@Amalekite: I think you will get a true reflection of the KZN team when they play Border as I would say they more evenly match, would go as far as saying KZN have by far more depth than Border and maybe a bit more talent but Border seem to gel better as a unit.
May the better team win.
Gone are the days when KZN vs Border was the final game at Craven Week but I think a good showing by both will help all involved.
@PaarlBok: En WP kontrak vir Leeus se Frans van Wyk en nie vir Boishaai se Thomas nie………….kan dit nie glo nie! Ek het Thomas nog nooit so sien skrum as @ die Bulle nie.Ek dink as Thomas so aanhou skrum gaan hy nog groot rugby speel.Ek het altyd gedink sy tegniese kant van sy skrumwerk is sy grootste probleem.My keuse vir SA Skole as loskop nou. Dink WP verloor ‘n diep seun hier.
@Muzi: Is it true that The Sharks have signed the whole Zimbabwean team?
@Predator:
Hmmm let me guess who those 9 players are that have signed for the Bulls….
loose forward Lian van Schalkwyk – another key player who missed had to miss the craven week.
The twins…..Geor and Remu Malan, Dewald Human, Duhan van der Merwe, Warrick Gelant and Leighton Eksteen
I’m not sure about 8 and 9…..may well come from Stefaan Grundlingh who needs to sort out his conditioning….Henri Storm he was a thorn against EP……and impressive centre…Douw Schoeman.
@Predator: Is jy n pappie of n kenner?
@Amalekite: I agree with you, in a lot of the teams their tight five did not do the hard rucking , everybody was waiting between the scrumhalf and centre to run the crash ball, maybe this was the gameplan,..but the teams e.g. WP,Griffons,Lions and Zimbabwe secured very good first phase ball,… their backline produced the goods in the end. I expected a lot more from the KZN team,…at least in the top 6,…maybe not a bad idea to get john Plumtree involved to lift the schoolboy level of play for the province,..there is some very talented boys, but as a team they just can’t get it together.
@oxry: ‘n Edele post, maar baie ironies komende van ‘n Oakdaler met die berugte Plaas (anders as die beroemde Boland een) as tuisveld. Mr Fortuin het hierdie jaar reeds 2 games, teen PRG en Bishops, op die Plaas hanteer en onder moeilike omstandighede goed gevaar. Hy het ‘n paar foute gemaak na beide kante, maar ten minste nie ‘n hele game gemis soos Bog se liefdeskind met die Stormers/Kings game nie. Werklik swak smaak van enige persoon om die Leeus se klinklare oorwinning aan die ref toe te skryf.
As ek terugdink oor die week se spel, wil dit voorkom asof die spanne wat die eerste fases gedomineer het,.. scrums en lynstane en die backline die hardloop werk laat doen het die week top geeindig het,..hulle het so bietjie weg beweeg het van die bumpcar approach. Dit het beslis sekere spelers in die week se spanne kans gegee om hulle skills ten toon te stel, goed vir SA rugby, ons moet die eie inisiatief van seuns terugkweek en aanmoedig. Selfs die Zimbabwe seuns het uitsonderlike rugby gespeel, so “gut-feel” tipe spel, lekker om na te kyk.
@Speartackle: Dis die probleem as jy rugby een dimensioneel beleef. In die Vrystaat het hulle net EEN “rugbyskool”. By ons is daar ‘n verskeidenheid, wat ons nederig hou, want enige span kan op ‘n goeie dag die ander klop. Maar soos jy, beter as ek weet, nou gaan Boggie ons gooi met die geskiedenis!
@BOG: Boggie, wat van “Geluk Leeutjies!”? Selfs ‘n gelukwensing uit Suurlemoenland, is beter as niks. Opmerklik dat daai unie wat vlgs jou vir Viljoen sal vernietig, in AL die finale hierdie jaar speel en sover alles gewen het.
@Rugbyman: Ek sien ons gaan mekaar toe wel aanvat Saterdag,…kom ons open maar weer die bet,…. wil tog iets probeer afvat van die Noorde, julle vat dan al ons talentvolle seuns. SA skole keuses gaan interessant en IMO baie moeilik wees in sekere posisies eg flanke, agsteman, heelagter en losskakel. Dit behoort ‘n goeie span te wees hierdie jaar.
Die mees voorspelbare karakter gemeet oor n tydperk van 5 jaar is sonder twyfel ou Bog. In daai 1000 dae seriestoot wat Grey daar in 2009 – 2011 beleef het was die man n grammafoon maar toe sy span begin verloor het hy aan depressie begin ly. Sy depro kondisie het darem nog nie epidermiese proporsies bereik nie a.g.v die feit dat Grey nie baie die onderspit delf maar elke keer na n Grey-betrokke verloor ( hetsy dit n Grey span, n OVS belaaide Grey span en selfs n Sharks/Grey belaaide span) gaan hy vir ten minste 72 uur in afsondering.
I have been very impressed with the spirit of the Lions side. They give me the impression of playing above themselves because of how tight they seem to be. You watch their team on the field together with their subs on the bench and you can feel the gees. That is how it should be.
I did not feel the same vibe when watching some of the other teams, especially the KZN side.
What do the other bloggers feel?
2 or 3 years ago when the Lions won the Currie Cup against a Springbok laden Sharks team, it was very similar. On that day, no team could have beaten them.
I also feel that the rucking and defence of the KZN side has been below par. It appears that all the ” ball carriers ” are watching and waiting for the ball to come to them, and all the grafters are sitting watching the game on TV. The “ball carriers” will always look better at trials, but we also need the grafters to win the ball.
Once again, what do you guys think?
@oxry: Moerse jammer daar ou Oxry, ek sukkel maar om te lees, het my kontaklens onderstebo ingesit, maar aan die anderkant lees ek meeste kere ook maar net wat ek wil.
@Speartackle: Lees mooi wat ek geskryf het. Hy was albei kante toe swak.
Selfs ‘n persoon met ‘n klein bietjie rugbykennis, let wel klein bietjie, sou kon waarneem dat die no.31 nie op standaard is nie.
Bly om te sien jy weet darem dat die no.31 die ref is. Dis geen kenner om daardie een op te los nie.
Ek het gewag vir daai een………………die eerste ‘kenner’ wat die ref gaan blameer. Hoe eenvoudig en voorspelbaar is ons pappies darem maar nie?
En ek is bitter lus om weer my weeklikse WESRAND DAGBOEK te begin.
@Speartackle: Hoe gaanit met daai tennis elmboog en harige hande van jou…? Ek hoor hulle se mens moet maar die handjies campher smeer so in die winter om dit lekker sag te hou… ou boereraat verstaan ek
Dagsê Rugby liefhebbers: Of die laaste strafskop nou een was of nie, dit moes nooit die uitslag van die wedstryd bepaal het nie. Beide spanne het kanse gehad om die wedstryd buite die bereik van die ander een te plaas. MAAR
no.31 op die veld het dit vir beide spanne moeilik gemaak. Sy algemene hantering van die wedstryd was swak, strafskoppe toegeken aan ‘n sekere span en dan was ek van mening dat die strafskop vir die ander span moes gewees het. Die Leeus het met moord weggekom, terwyl die arme Cheetahs dit mos ontgeld.
Op party plekke in die wedstryd het dit gelyk soos BRAKENJAN ( all for one and one for all ).
@Rugbyrealis: Ja swaer, hier is seker so handvol van ons wat nou al 5 jaar op hierdie blogs probeer wys wees, ander soos Bog, is net hier om stront te praat. Elke jaar is hier n nuwe paar pappies, ooms, niggies, coaches en scouts wat hulle slim hou en en van hulle seuns verwag wat hulle nooit kon regkry nie. Dit gaan maar so, indien jy nie onder een van bg val sal jy oor so 3 jaar sien wie bly oor, net die regte kenners en booswigte.
Die pappies begin so op 0/16 vlak hier deelneem en raak al slimmer soos hulle kinders ouer word. Na die matriekseisoen verdwyn hulle tesame met die coaches wie se spanne verslind is en die scouts wat verkeerde keuses gemaak het. So gaan dit maar aan en aan, jaar in jaar uit. Die pappies kom en die pappies is vol bravade en die pappies gaan. Die pappies van die super skole is natuurlik die meeste windgat maar aan die einde van die seisoen is hulle maar weer net pappies wat waarskynlik ere-kleure vir debat en skyfskiet op skool verwerf het.
My CV is ongelukkig hoogs geklassifiseerd maar ek kan met oorgawe meld my hele lewe bestaan uit n Bring en Braai.
@Rugbyrealis: Jy trap lekker op tone… Ek hoor juis daar is manne wat jou gaan kom uithaal oor jou opmerkings op die site… Big Brother is watching. ..
Bly om te sien WP het wakker geskrik na die Pollard fiasko. het die Gim ysters JD, Jac, Rikus op die boeke vir volgende jaar.
http://www.beeld.com/sport/2013-07-11-blinkste-sterre-nie-vir-wp-verlore
@GreenBlooded: So why do you go to Cape Town via JHB?
@Rugbyman: Ten minste wil dit voorkom of jy self afrig en betrokke is by skolerugby.Van die ander bloggers blyk leuenstoelkenners te wees wat nuwe betekenis te gee aan die cliche van die BESTE STUURMAN STAAN AAN WAL.Ek dink elke blogger behoort n verkorte CV in te gee waar hulle al betrokke was by skolerugby.Ek dink ons gaan geskok wees om te sien hoe onbevoeg van hulle is.As jy nou n span voor hulle n span sit om af te rig,gaan hulle glad nie weet wat om te doen nie.Dit is maar soos die meeste ouers wat self niks kon uitrig op die veld nie en dan hulle eie drome voortleef deur hulle kinders.Nou weet hulle alles!!
@BOG: Jy is seker verlig dat jou span nie teen WP speel saterdag nie.
@Speartackle: Sitting at JNB waiting for my flight to the armpit of Africa so give me your best shot. At least my week can only get better.
@Speartackle: Pick on WBHS Griffon, Westville Boys High or Glenwood, it’s always a version of the Bold and the Reckless.
@Rugbyman: Nee jys soos n kind, jy hardloop mos koshuisvader toe.
@Speartackle: Pick me, pick me!!!!!!
Is there anyone out there that would like to get insulted?
@Vleis: What happened to St Albans this year, they started with a bang but seem to have lost some momentum? Or am I wrong.
@Grasshopper: KES plays 13 games, including three festival games plus three or four against strong Afrikaans schools….so that leaves six or seven games against the ‘weak league’ opponents that you bang on about. A large chunk of these remaining fixtures are against Natal teams (MC, DHS, WBH)…so I guess you are inadvertently trying to tell us that the Natal schools are weak. You may have a point there son. I hope for your sake that MC beats PBH in a few weeks to take the Grogper Cup, or you will be crying yourself to sleep!
@vicci: Vicci jy moet nice wees met ons ,..onthou die KWAGGAS moet nog die OP skole speel later in die jaar.
@vicci: Goeie idee. Ek wonder wat sou die score gewees het teen OP as Gelant ook gespeel het. seker so in die 60’s. Dit sou ‘n groter cheat gewees het, of as die forwards nooit in die backline gestaan het nie sou dit “torture” gewees het. IMO dink ek die Valke sou beter kompetisie gewees het
@Predator: wat van val terug op julle suksesvolle akademie game plan CHEAT
@BoishaaiPa: Is die kop al bietjie beter.
@Predator:Behalwe as dit Boggom se span is.
@BOG: That last penalty was not against Louw but against No 13…
@BOG: Jammer daar moet ‘n verloorder wees in so close game. Ek wonder ook hoekom ‘n loskop ingestuur word op vaskop in so ‘n kritieke tyd in die game,…hy het baie swaar gekry,..en dit het die pak laat swaarkry, IMO nie ‘n goeie agrigters besluit nie. Monster 7 flank met hoe werkverrigting van FS.
Waar kry die Bulle al die geld om soveel kontrakte aan te bied. Verkoop julle regtig soveel Blou Bul truie ,balle, sleutelhouers, towbar-knaters en wat nog om soveel spelers te kontrakteer.Ek sal nie verbaas wees as die BULLE nog royalties kry op biltong verkope ook nie. Een ding kan ek toegee vir die BULLE bestuur , julle is pro-aktief as dit by werwing kom.
@Muzi: Gelant was the planmaker and anchor in the backline ,…such a pity, wonder if he would be considered for SA schools, or do you have to play CW. Human played better today ,but hangs on to the ball just a bit to long,.good kicking today. IMO Duhan vd Merwe is the best 11 wing in SA. Agree that Remu Malan was the better choice at scrumhalf. Warrick Gelant and Duhan vd Merwe was signed last year, also heard that 8th man Koen was signed by Province. He has not delivered his best yet, hope he fires on all cylinders Saturday. Wonder who the other boys are who was signed by BB?
@BOG: Correct, as long as you don’t go and lose your marbles now as well….
@BOG: Well spoken there young man
Also, the Lions can thank their lucky stars that there was an opening on their left, as big as a barn door
The FS were doing exceptionally well until Kramer left the field. In fact they were dominant.I would have loved to see that front row against the Wee Pee, but of course with Ox at LH. Kramer will be in great demand and I hope that the Cheetahs have signed him. Louw will play S 15 in 4 years time and while EW Viljoen may not have had the best so far, he too, is destined to play big rugby. However, apart from the BBs, if there is a franchise able to destroy his game, then its the Stormers. Oh, and that last penalty was not one. Louw supported his own weight. But as I said, in the bigger scheme of things, there really is not much of a difference between rugby and marbles.
@Muzi: I wonder what the stats say regarding the odds for the team who played on the Thursday, to win on the Saturday against the team that had an extra day’s rest?
@Andre T:
Hi, again Dylan Vlok was impressive I expect much more from 8thman Wihan Jacobs.
Innocent Radebe showed some nice touches but he was guily of making one or two errors on the field.
I thought Gerdus van der Walt was solid…..Erwin Harris has BMT he’s not a bad signing at all for the lions.
IMHO the lions missed Henson…Nyasha had his moments but Devon is a key player in that tight five.
@Predator:
geez I think it’s safe to say to that the Bulls have another academy in George.
I heard the Bulls signed 9 players from Outeniqua
I was happy Duhan van der Merwe got a chance to spread his wings that boy is class pity Gelant was injured.
One has to admit Remu Malan made a difference to the side he combined well with Geor – one of my favourite players.
Little Human is a champ though he outplayed the higly rated Ernst Stapelberg.
I also enjoyed the number 8 battle between Deon Koen and Martin Groenewald.
@Roger: Yep, KES’s league is weak the Afrikaans school league up there is strong, that is why most the Lions team is from Monnas etc…
@Muzi: Who in your opinion were the stand out players in the Tvl team today?
@BuffelsCM:
Kramer should have stayed at tighthead prop.
Regarding the Ox!!!!!!! that move could have destroyed his chances of making sa schools i couldn’t believe my eyes
@Muzi: Hi Muzi – regarding Ox: I agree with you 100% !!!
He is a loosehead prop. Tighthead is such a specialized position – you can’t just put a guy at 3 in CW for the sake of having a better player on the field !! An injustice to Ox as well as the team IMO !!
Sal graag SWD teen Vrystaat wil sien Saterdag. SWD se pak forwards weet nie of hulle kom of gaan op die oomblik nie. Hulle scrum swak,…. spring swak en sukkel om die los bal vinnig weg te kry. EK verstaan wragtig nie hierdie tipe gameplan nie, elke keer as die backline spasie kry score hulle,…. hoekom sal die coach nog steeds die stormram,..forwards in die backline opsie verkies. Die score lyk goed maar die game was nie aanskoulik nie. Dankie tog ons kom nie teen WP Saterdag te staan nie,..dit sou ‘n absolute vernedering gewees het. As ek die coach was sou ek dat al 4 my stutte beserings claim, want daar is nie ‘n ander manier hoe die bal by die backline sou kom teen die WP pak nie. Duhan vd Merwe weer sy talent gewys as hy net die bal kan kry.
The only reason Innocent Radebe wasn’t playing in the black and white in this year’s CW was his hesitance about being away from home for such long periods of time, the idea of termly boarding didn’t go well with him. His parents were also pushing for the move, but decided to respect his decision. Such a shame :D
@Vleis: we were the post matric specialists, more commonly known as Red White and Grey! And the 4 post matrics a year, were funded by a particular Old Boy, not the school, after all who was the school to deny a pupil such an opportunity, cough cough. In the more recent events, I am led to believe from a most unreliable source, that the coaches package, um salary, was funded from Old Boy ranks, and I’m led to believe some of the extra mature acquisitions may have been, but that’s just interesting speculation. Both schools dish out about 10 scholarships a year to sport and academic recipients coming into grade 8. Bursaries are provided to as many as 25% of worthy scholars, mainly sons of Old Boys, some who are worthy entrants but can’t afford full fees, but it is not sports related. These funds are from Old Boys etc, bit it managed by the school or board.
Ai, die Vrystaat se verloor is die eerste CW 2103 uitslag wat my dwars in die krop steek. As hulle nie teen ons speel nie, ondersteun ek hulle big time. Maar ek is bly vir die Leeus se part. Die verloop van die telling, soos weergegee deur die bloggers, staaf ten minste een van my teorieë, as jy teen Vrystaat(GW) en Grey CB speel, en jy loop met vyf minute wedstrydtyd oor steeds voor, MOENIE aanneem jy gaan wen nie. Daai spanne is fenominaal, hulle speel om te wen en speel tot op die einde, hulle het talent en is gewoonlik puik afgerig- so moenie gemaklik raak en aannames maak nie.
@Vleis: Marco
@McCulleys Workshop: Yes and no. I can’t imagine that it engenders much loyalty from the rest of the school. After all, some poor boy plays his heart out for the u14A, u15A and u16A, only to play 2nds in Opens as he has been gazumped by a provincial import.
My son’s tutor used to be the MH u14A coach and he said that MH does not participate in such activities at all…albeit they were the worst culprits about ten years ago.
@McCulleys Workshop: is that funded from school fees or donations/trusts
@Roger: Air flips .. .phooey man. It’s the pencils …. that’s the stuff. Probably Swarovski clutch pencils in the Misty Heights, but still … stationery is the only safe bet .. 8)
@Roger: That is what happens when you whore your brand out to wealth old boys. The school side steps the responsibility, and believes its reputation remains untarnished. This will only increase as pressure to perform mounts on professional coaches within the school boy fraternity.
@Roger: Yep, I remember how he turned the Saints 1st team’s fortunes around when he was selected to play mid-way through the season when still in gr10.
@Roger: @Vleis: They got the Glenwood and craven week fullback last year, only did a matric there, the Westville craven week scrum half the year before, the Glenwood and GK u16 captain and lock this year. Makes sense to me, give a R210,000 a year bursary for 1 or 2 years, as opposed to paying for 5 and the youngster doesn’t deliver in matric. Cunning money management. Oh, and don’t give a toss about your neighbors
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@Vleis: don’t blame them – Saints invested a lot of time and money into said flyhalf – look at the result – very very good player
@Muzi:@Roger: …and as a result, I’m told that Saints are so unhappy with said private school that they refuse to attend any festivals there – e.g. the ISRF u15 festival this year and some other cricket festival.
@Muzi: yep – I know – those KZN types poach far and wide
@Speartackle: I wonder if Bog still think Louis Botha, San Du Plessis and Sentraal will beat Monnas, KES, Jeppe and Florida
@Roger:
That pvt school was Hilton College…
Ox is a loose head bad move to move to shift him to tight head prop poor guy was getting drilled six love in the scrums.
Playa and Roger- Boggie gaan julle baie vloek vanaand as hy julle posts lees. Maar hy sal seker eers more reply nadat hy recover het
@Playa: Boggie has booked himself in already
Well done Lions! What a team! Very well drilled group of youngsters
Sorry BOGGIE!
well done to the Lions they deserved the win,they played the better rugby.like that youngster Radebe a lot
@Roger: hope he enjoyed the flip, good for him to take himself off the meat market.
@Speartackle: very weak league – and yet their third unofficial final in three years
@McCulleys Workshop: the stories around that were hilarious – what was more hilarious was how he played along and then politely declined
@Roger: The province with the weak league?
@BuffelsCM: poor old Bog – he still thinks the Griffons are contenders
@BuffelsCM: Monnas should have beaten Grey anyway the last two times they’ve met.
Although I must say there are some very good players from the other JHB schools in this team.
Lions deserved it – created far more opportunities – I counted four tries they butchered. They need to take those opportunities on Sat though- Free State defended very well but this time the better team won
Well done Lions – once again the unfancied team from the Reef will contect the Final
@Roger: Don’t know if I should be happy or sad……………..Saturday is going to be too tough
@Speartackle: hold the phone – Lions win – another last min penalty coverted this time
@Speartackle: ?? Ek noem dit sommer huis !!
Ref missed a penalty: knock by FS and player played the ball from offside position. Last scrum geed to Lions
Penalty to Lions to win the game after 72+ minutes.
Straight kick but 36 metres…..over !!!!
Lions 20 – 19
Bog must be gutted
@Roger: There is shit wherever there is a Union affiliated coach whose career depends on his success.
Oh well……………..I’m disappointed but relieved…………………..rather OFS get a 50 pointer against them Saturday than the Lions
Lions miss penalty to win it
@McCulleys Workshop: Heh MW – did you know that other private school in KZN tried to lure Innocent Radebe at the the end of last year – helicopter trips et al
@Roger: same score
Lost? Game set and match?
And my money is on Kramer ahead of Ox in lose and set pieces.
whoops drifta gone haywire again – I’m lost
@Roger: Every great side should have a prop who can kick, playing fullback!
19-17 – 7 to go
@BuffelsCM: Sit jy daar in die Cage en kyk?
9 to go – Lions line out in FS 22
19 – 14 FS after 59 minutes
@Speartackle: they defend very well too –
19 – 14 FS after 57 minutes
@Roger: I knew it, they are also always a very fit team and play till the final whistle
19-14 Free State – 20 to go
yup – there we go Free State score
@Roger: Is the ref from Grey?
A recipe to make sure you loose a rugby game 1) over confindence or too little ( players and coaches ) 2) playing players out of position for whatever reason. 3) too much structure. 4) too much focus on size and not balancing it with speed and agility at the breakdowns.5) playing injured players. 6) inability to adjust the game plan. 6) playing for something else other than the team.7) an unhappy team( dynamics in a rugby team is crucial )
14-12 Lions
@Roger: That’s a OFS story……………….they are always overpowered but then something lucky happens
but they should be out of sight now given their dominance
14-9 Lions – Lions looking very good
@Roger: Lost signal? What’s happening there in Houghton?
@Speartackle: knock-on over the line – now I have lost signal but Lions had a penalty under the post last I saw
@Roger: What is this butchered story?
@Roger: Polo
jeez – great play Lions – another try butchered though!
@Roger: Marco
@Playa: Can’t believe this road block between Ventersdorp and Lichtenburg…………………they pulled me over and let all the taxis go by…………………it should be other way round
@Speartackle: 11-9 halftime
11-9 half time.
@Speartackle: Hahahahaha!You’re killing me mate
Roger
@Speartackle: Roger – 11-6 Lions
@Roger: Thank you, if you can please keep posting score. Do you Roger me?
@Speartackle: 8-3 Lions 25 min gone
@Roger: What is the score………..I’m stuck at a road block
Great win by SWD, this is more what I expected from them on Tuesday.
Lions butchered two tries and Freestate one – Lions should be 15 points clear
great try Lions – now you know why Innocent Radebe is so highly rated
Hoop OVS wen hier. Naaste aan ‘n Gim vs Grey wedstryd wat ons die jaar gaan kry. Bog sal ook gelukkig wees.
@beet: What did you do all day? Did you go and get yourself a Dup hairstyle?
@Speartackle: @oxry: Jammer ons tellings en ‘n span van gister. Vanday was ek baie lui.
Is it a rest day or what?
@Koos Roos: Eers het my ma my aangetrek toe my ergstenoot nou Beet. Al wat oorbly is AVBOB.
I’ve just stepped out of a bar…………………can anyone tell me if there’s CW going on today cause I see zero scores anywhere…………………..for friggen Bog sakes please
@oxry: Die hele pak forwards is van WP en die agterlyn is die Bulls se forwards
Dagsê Beet. Is daar nie ‘n span gekies na dag 3 van CW nie. Sal nogals wil sien hoe die span verskil van dag 1 se span.
@Koos Roos: It going to be a close match also think Free State by a few points.
@rugbyfan: That’s what I was saying.
@rugbyfan: Can’t wait for the Free State/Lions clash. Gonna be a cracker. Difficult to call. Think Free State by a small margin.
@Queenian: Also there was no SA Schools team in 1969 as some people claim the team picked to play the British Universties touring team in 1969 went under the banner of the SA Inv Schools 15. And is not deemed to have been a SA schools team as it was not picked by the Craven Week Committee but by the SA Rugby board.
What the difference is I am not sure as they watched Craven week to see who to pick.
@Queenian: I see what you mean about the published list of SA Schools players being incomplete I check on 4 sites lists and could not find Ian Greig,s name on any of them as you claimed he played SA School cricket and rugby in 1974 but do agree in the photo of the 1974 SA Schools teams he is there so not sure why he does not appear on any of the lists.
@Predator: Agree everybody thought Zim would be a walk over but they playing really well.
@Rugbyman: Ek sien niemand lewer kommentaar oor Limpopo Bulls en ZIM nie. Zim het old style rugby gespeel en pragtig afgerond. Miskien is ek nog deurmekaar van die SWD skok, maar dis asof hierdie manne net honger genoeg is om te wen, hulle speel regtig mooi rugby, wonder of van hulle genader sal word deur die unies. Zim was man vir man kleiner in die forwards, maar dit het hulle min geskeel.
EP vs SWD will be a cracker
@Koos Roos: Funny my connection is also not working correctly does not want to post comments
@Koos Roos: Jip… ek het mos so gese in my post… ek weet julle o/16s van laasjaar was baie goed
@Tjoppa: Tjoppa die weddenskap was TOV die Arende met predator… Hy het gese hulle gaan die CW wen… ek het gese hulle sallie… maar as jy ingeplug was so 2 dae terug sal jy sien dat ek en predator die sakie uitgesorteer het. Sankie vir jou rol in die arbitrasie…
@Ploegskaar: Vandat Vrystaat begin het om WP se partytjies jaar na jaar te ontsier het my gevoel oor hulle verander. Toe tel ek die PRG/Grey kompetisie op danksy Junior en heelaas toe loop ek vir Boggie raak op hierdie blog. Vrystaat? Nee.
@Queenian: I know. As a matter of fact, I think a Free State / WP final is on the cards. Free State however did not convince me completely against EP. Lions might just cause upset.
@Queenian: My tablet is not working well this morning. Sorry about the repetition.
@Rugbyman: Die jaar daarna ook. Dan kom ons o16 groep in sy geheel deur.
@Tjoppa: Ou Tjoppie, of moet ek se Verkleurmannetjie? Verander jou trui se kleur saam met jou emosies? Is swart nie nou ‘n beter keuse nie? Ou Wollie kan hom vir jou aantrek!
@Rugbyman: Die jaar daarna ook. Dan kom ons o16 groep in sy geheel deur.
@Koos Roos: Lets see how the Free State go against the Lions before we jump poor old BOG as he,s prediction historically and sadly have been quite good.
@Roger: Curtainraiser???? Like the ones your mother bought with Barberton Daisies on? Have to agree with Bog. Lots of reckless predictions going around. Against WeePie anyway.
@BOG: Is die skielike begerigheid om die BB te ondersteun dalk die gevolg van ‘n perverse weerwil om die WP suksesvol te sien? Of het die Bulletjies na makliker teenstand in ‘n moontlike finaal vir julle gelyk? Ten minste is die ouens wat tot dusver WP geback het, nie so roekeloos nie of hoe?
@BOG: Is die skielike begerigheid om die BB te ondersteun dalk die gevolg van ‘n perverse weerwil om die WP suksesvol te sien? Of het die Bulletjies na makliker teenstand in ‘n moontlike finaal vir julle gelyk?
Don’t be surprised if Free State come out on top in this CW
@wakker akker: Soos met baie WP manne is OVS my no2 span en ‘n WP/OVS game is altyd goed op die oog ook. Leeus pak en 9 was egter witwarm anderdag, so mens weet nooit, Monnas/GCB was ‘n naby affere vroeer die jaar.
Hierdie roekelose en optimistiese voorspellings het gladnie verander nie en die les dat n wedstryd tussen 4 kalklyne beslis word, is duidelik nog nie geleer nie.
@Ploegskaar: praat jy uit ondervinding. Terwyl jy so bedagsaam is .wie gaan julle Saterdag speel. Dink nie enige kompetisie vir Wp hierdie jaar
@wakker akker: Sies, spuit jy al weer lande? Jy moenie daai DDT inasem nie, maak jou onbeskof!
@Ploegskaar: ek net bly WP het die bulletjies so mooi opgedonner. Miskien moet jy jou bril omdraai dan sal jy sien jy sien ander lippe
@wakker akker: Akker, jou mond is so dik jy gaan nou-nou jou onderlip raaktik. Moet ek vir jou ingelegde makepaan aanstuur vir daai wrang smaak? Nie lekker as jy so bitter is nie.
@Tjoppa: as jy nie my vraag kan beantwoord nie het ek nie jou stupid afleidings voor gevra nie .gaan klim eerder in jou kot.druk jou blou dummy in jou mond as jy nie n vraag kan antw. En vir jou info ek kyk na wedstryde van dag een .my vraag op dag een gemik.
180 turn by the WP pack. That Paarl boys front row made a massive difference. This CW is WPs to lose now
@Rugbyman: Is jy nie die wat die weddenskappe gemaak het tgv die Bulle nie?
@wakker akker: Die TV moes jou raak sien. Maar moenie nou stront wil praat oor die WP flank nie Asseblief. Behou jou nederigheid van gister. Toe was jy half verteerbaar.
Kan enige iemand my help ?watter kriteria word gebruik om motm te kies ! Want ek verstaan dit nie. Moet jy rond hardloop vir kamera. Drie tackles. Terug gedryf word as jy bal dra. Of wat.
@Muzi: Van die begin af geweet dit gaan WP wees… Volgende jaar sal dit weer WP wees…
@jakes:
Many here including me expected Bulls,SWD and Valke to dominate this week….perhaps we should listen to tjoppa.
Maybe the Bulls and the Valke can meet each other on saturday, if both teams can keep up their motivation levels, it could be a good game. The Valke needs to lift their game a bit compared to the performance they gave against Griffons..
@ Valke- ek stem 100% saam met jou. Die valke teen die griquas CD- die Valke span het dan die Griquas span met 30 punte of so geklop by die bondedag. Hierdie gaan ‘n mismatch of note wees vir die Valke more. really sad
@Rugbyman: Interesting that the player of the match was a loosie. Bulls left their best at home no one willing to put their body on the line. What a disgrace. But as I said @ the beginning of the CW the Bulls will not make it. Poor selection, poor coaching.
Absolutely shocking Bulls… Forwards were annihilated by WP…. All the Bulls forwards wants to carry the ball – no one to do the dirty work and play to the ball! Not even mentioning the shocking lineout throw-ins… Well done to WP! Very disappointing Bulls… as Tjoppa and I suspected on Monday, big question marks…
Province putting the Bulls under pressure in the scrums and lineouts!
Well done to the players and coaches !!
I know there is still 9 minutes left but 30 – 6 up it has to be Province’s game !
What a game so far from province, great to see the forwards doing well
@ZnCoach: Wcape
Watching the Bulls/WP game, can someone please enlighten me as to where the Bulls got all there PDI( I hate that term) players from? Are these the boys that got enticed/poached whatever you want to call it from ECape?
@HM: The Grogper Cup fixture list has been agreed already and the ISRF matches certainly do not count, as the schools generally bring experimental g11s and gr10s to the festival. Last year St Alban’s klapped Kearsney 1sts by 30 points, which would not have happened during the regular season.
@GreenBlooded: no way – my sense of humour is way more subtle
@Roger: That was the response I expected from Speartackle.
@GreenBlooded: hmmm – possibly the reason the Green Machine were excluded from the Grogper cup – it is for English Medium Schools after all
@beet: House ‘educated’ St David’s and St Benedict’s , 41 and 52-0 a week or two ago I believe. So, the privates did something for KZN for a change by securing the Cup (please, just a light hearted comment).
@Speartackle: One swallow does not make a summer. When we venture over the escarpment, we only play teams who’s lineout calls are in Afrikaans and the players call the ref “Oom”.
@GreenBlooded: But KES did import a dutchie from Klerksdorp at scrumhalf this year.
@Speartackle: Glenwood shys away from no-one. You are confusing us with Westville. We don’t play KES cos we prefer playing the Dutchie schools in Pretoria, West Rand and Vrystaat.
@Roger: Think your prediction is spot-on there. 06h30 a good kick-off time for KZN…………………….heard they complained about dust and altitude after their loss………………the mist at dawn can work well in their favour.
@Roger: I think Tappe Henning will fit in better on the West Rand
@BOG: Freestate – Bulletjies final with the Lions giving the WeePee a lesson in the curtain raiser. KZN to play Border CD in the lower fields at 0630
@Speartackle: no altercations this year – was a fantastic game for the neutral but palpitating for supporters. Next year maybe we will give you Wit Bulletjies a break and ask Andre Watson to come out of retirement
@BOG: Van pappabeer.
@Roger: I also can’t understand it……………….it should always be such a walk-over…………………I think they should start playing with an afrikaans ref.
I wasn’t at the game this year…………….were you?……………….any altercations again between KES coaches and parents after the game in front of the Monnas pupils?
For the first time in my life, I have this inclination to support the BBs. I wonder why? I also believe that we have a few mismatches for day 4. SWD vs Border CDs would have been better.Griffons and EP would have been a good competition@Speartackle: I wonder where the Dup brothers picked up the Western Tvl dust? Have they ever been there?@Vleis: Horizontal stripes make you look fatter- try some vertical stripes.
@Roger: Heard a rumour that they’re starting construction of a staduim just outside of Colesberg………………………..you think it could be the HQ?
Good on Paul Anthony – coached me at PBHS! Fantastic individual and highly motivating coach! Great signing for the Sharks
@Speartackle: and yet he was outplayed by the KES no. 7 – what’s up with Monnas against KES – must be a mental thing – KES has their worst season in 20 years and Monnas still cant get one over them
@beet: thats what I am afraid of – however, the Kings look dead on their feet to me – although they are resting 12 players thsi w/end against the Sharkies. Lions are fresh and confident. Methinks both Unions may be forced into a merger for two years though
@Speartackle: That name rings a bell. Where is he now, or is Basie one of your alternate log-ins?
@Roger: We just signed Paul Anthony from the Bulls as a Sharks junior coach. If the Lions lose that promotion/relegation game against the Kings, South Gauteng could become part of the extended region of the Sharks.
@Roger: Where else?
@Speartackle: @Vleis: he, he, he, he – put these KZN pretenders in their place
I just hope the Union can hold onto some of these players – the number 7 for Lions was immense – is he a Monnas boytjie?
Would love to see Zimbabwe playing WP on Saturday and Griffons taking on KZN
@Vleis: Wasn’t it Basie?
@Speartackle: I honestly do not remember. I had a few disagreements with one chap when the CW team was selected a year or two ago, but no big deal. All handbags at ten paces methinks!
@Vleis: Who was that oke from Monnas again that gave you so much uphill?
@Speartackle: My wife says that I look thinner in stripes.
@Vleis: Vleisie……………what’s with the Province jersey?
@Speartackle: Dag se Mnr T. I see that the Grogper Cup has been explained already. So far, it is 6 all, with the game between Pta Boys v College (at College) being the decider.
@Grasshopper: Unlike Natal, there is no ‘league’ in Gauteng – e.g. St Alban’s has annual fixtures v Menlo; KES has annual fixtures v Affies, Menlo, Monnas, etc. By the way, a St John’s player was man of the match yesterday. Also, I’m not sure why you want to include Glenwood in the Grogper cup given that you lost at home to Monnas – a parallel medium school…much like Glenwood :-). Besides, if you guys couldn’t beat Pionier, what chance would you have had against the schools from Gauteng?
@Grasshopper: And the Lions were at full strength after their B team beat OFS on the Monday?
The fact remains……………..KZN can not make it into the playoffs unless they start importing boys from the Western Transvaal, Free State flats or Northern Cape Karoo. Tough, strong and agile boys brought up barefoot and grown strong by climbing trees, chasing cattle and carrying sheep. Not peroxided plastic Tarzans who’d much rather surf than get dirty. That’s why the Dup brothers are so tough…………………they’ve got that Western Transvaal dust in their veins
@GreenBlooded: Who won between KES and Glenwood or did Glenwood shy away from that contest too?
@Roger: And they smashed them the year before and will smash them next year and every other year they play them.
@Roger: They had to win the first game to get a good third game and with the CW rules had to play the weaker side in the 2nd game, just dumb rules or we have little depth…
The Grogper Cup decider is coming up. College vs PBHS. But agree with all who assumed KZN won it already. It’s a natural deduced thought process at work there.
@Grasshopper: hmmmm – bad planning by KZN management wouldn’t you say – putting out their “weaker” team against the Lions? Were they a touch over confident?
@GreenBlooded: that’s only because there are no Afrikaans school in the Last Outpost
@Roger: Grogper Cup is a made up cup to see who was stronger between the Lions and KZN traditional English schools sides. It’s a mixture of Roger and Grasshopper. KZN went behind early on but surged ahead in the end, winning it by a game a think. Let’s just say the standard is pretty close. Yes, the Lions beat KZN on the 3rd day with our weaker team as the stronger team played on the 1st day. Also our captain was injured etc…..but well done to the Lions for bringing the players together better than KZN does. KZN is not prepared enough at these weeks…
@Speartackle: You see – this is what happens when you boycott the blog and then try and play catch up.
The Grogper Cup (Short for Grasshopper / Roger) was a head-to-head competition between ENGLISH schools in KZN and Gauteng-a-leng.
I can predict with clarity what your response is going to be…………
@Speartackle: ask Beet – a comp to determine who is better – KZN or Lions. Didn’t the Lions smash KZN at craven week last yeat too
What is the Grogper Cup? Sounds like some Afghan Mud-wrestling contest.
@Grasshopper: this Lions team is a good mixture actually – only one KES boy but given the season they had – not surprising. A few Jeppe, St Johns, Parktown and Saints boys as well –
didn’t follow the Grogper Cup – who won? KES finished the season by drawing with Monnas and PBHS and beating St Johns
To give the Lions credit, they play great rugby as a team. They look so well drilled! Your scrummy is potent, quick to each and every breakdown and gets the ball out. Big imposing locks, work-horse loosies – very good.
Your outside centre seems to get held up quite often? Is he perhaps a bit light for centre?
@Roger: Mostly Monnas players there, your ‘league’ with Jeppe, St Stithians, St Johns, Parktown etc is ‘weaker’ than KZN. Didn’t we win the Grogper cup even without Glenwood? I know you drew with Monnas, well done!
Valke against Griquas CD ???
What a waiste of time.
They will win by 80+.
year in and year out the Lions are written off at Craven Week and yet they produce the good more often than not. How many “finals” have they contested over the last ten years? It is a tribute to the coaches and players because often, IMO, I don’t believe they get the selection right. You could see how much they wanted to win yesterday and prove a point. Fair play to all involved. Hopefully they can beat the Kings in the promotion-relegation game and get back into Super rugby and hold onto these talented youngsters.
Heh Grasshopper – not bad results for schools that participate in a “weak” league
So, 14:00 and 15:00 teams are the Top 8? For some the motivation will be to get a match on the A field on the last day, possibly only the Top 6.
@Woltrui: Yesterday it looked like the Valke game plan was different from that used by EG this season. Some of the big names just didn’t produce like they have been. Hats off to the Griffons tho, particularly in the first half. So well drilled.
Eish Mnr Beet, U was reg. Die valke is besig om die kortste strooi te trek. Hulle het natuurlik ook hulle eie graf help grawe met hulle vertoning teen die N Vrystaters. Jammer. Dink die Valke teen SWD sou n kwaliteit wedstryd gewees het.