The formula-driven ranking system is compiled by BoishaaiPa and has been in use for 6 seasons now!
| Rank | Team | Avg Points Per Game |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Grey College | 4.20 |
| 2 | Paul Roos | 3.53 |
| 3 | Glenwood | 3.38 |
| 4 | HJS Paarl | 3.37 |
| 5 | Paarl Gim | 3.35 |
| 6 | Waterkloof | 3.33 |
| 7 | Wynberg BHS | 3.31 |
| 8 | Selborne | 3.31 |
| 9 | Monument | 3.30 |
| 10 | Garsfontein | 3.21 |
| 11 | Bishops | 3.17 |
| 12 | HTS Middelburg | 3.05 |
| 13 | EG Jansen | 3.05 |
| 14 | Maritzburg College | 3.01 |
| 15 | Tygerberg | 2.93 |
| 16 | Menlopark | 2.88 |
| 17 | Stellenberg | 2.85 |
| 18 | Outeniqua | 2.79 |
| 19 | Michaelhouse | 2.70 |
| 20 | Nelspruit | 2.60 |
| 21 | Grey PE | 2.55 |
| 22 | Transvalia | 2.54 |
| 23 | Oakdale | 2.50 |
| 24 | KES | 2.41 |
| 25 | Kearsney | 2.39 |
| 26 | Dale College | 2.34 |
| 27 | Westville BHS | 2.32 |
| 28 | HTS Louis Botha | 2.31 |
| 29 | Ben Vorster | 2.23 |
| 30 | Sentraal | 2.16 |
@Babbelas: Ek het onlangs die 1977 finaal, waarin my neef skrumskakel vir Stoffberg gespeel het, op video gekyk. Stunning wedstryd. Ongelooflik hoe vinnig ‘n skrum daardie jare plaasgevind het. As die skeidsregter sê : skrum, dan vind die skrum daar en dan plaas, en die bal word weer laat loop!
History:
Admin Cup/Directors Trophy/Beeld Trophy 1922 -2010
AdministrateursBeker (1922 – 1933 bekend as die AG Robertson-Beker)
1922: Pretoria Boys’ High
1923: Pretoria Boys’ High
1924: Pretoria Boys’ High
1925: Hoër Volkskool Heidelberg
1926: Hoër Volkskool Heidelberg
1927: Swartruggens / Pretoria Boys’ High
1928: Pretoria Boys’ High
1929: Swartruggens
1930: Rustenburg
1931: Hoër Volkskool Heidelberg
1932: Hoër Volkskool Heidelberg
1933: Zeerust
1934: Zeerust
1935: Zeerust
1936: Rustenburg
1937: Rustenburg
1938: Hoër Seunskool Helpmekaar
1939: Hoër Volkskool Potchefstroom
1940: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
1941: Standerton
1942: Klerksdorp
1943: Rustenburg
1944: Hoër Volkskool Heidelberg
1945: Hoër Volkskool Heidelberg
1946: Pietersburg
1947: Pietersburg
1948: No League
1949: Hoër Volkskool Potchefstroom
1950: Hoër Volkskool Potchefstroom
1951: Hoër Volkskool Potchefstroom
1952: Hoër Seunskool Hugenote
1953: Monument
1954: Pietersburg
1955: Fakkel
1956: Vereeniging
1957: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
1958: Lichtenburg / Voortrekker
1959: Klerksdorp
1960: Klerksdorp
1961: Rustenburg / Hoër Volkskool Potchefstroom
1962: Hoër Seunskool Helpmekaar
1963: Rustenburg / Hoër Volkskool Heidelberg
1964: Wolmaransstad
1965: Ben Viljoen
1966: Brandwag (Benoni)
1967: Potchefstroom Gimnasium
1968: Piet Potgieter
1969: Fakkel
1970: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
1971: HTS Tom Naudé
1972: Nelspruit/Affies
1973: Delmas
1974: HTS John Vorster
1975: Nelspruit 3 vs Hoer Seunskool Helpmekaar 3 (draw)
1976: Hoër Volkskool Potchefstroom
1977: Stoffberg (Brakpan)
1978: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
1979: Monument
1980: Monument / HSS Hugenote (Springs)
1981: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool / HTS Tom Naudé
Direkteurstrofee:
1982: Oos-Moot (Pretoria)
1983: Hoër Volkskool Potchefstroom
1984: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool / Monument
1985: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
1986: HTS Sasolburg
1987: Hugenote
1988: Lichtenburg
1989: Kempton Park
1990: Randburg
1991: HTS Middelburg
1992: Waterkloof
1993: Pietersburg
1994: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
Beeld Trophy:
1995: Afrikaanse Hoër Seusnkool / HTS Middelburg
1996: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
1997: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
1998: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
1999: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
2000: Ermelo
2001: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
2002: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
2003: Waterkloof
2004: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
2005: Monument
2006: Afrikaanse Hoër Seunskool
2007: Waterkloof
2008: Waterkloof
2009: Monument
2010: Monument
kosie, agree, would love to see schools without boarding facilities rankings! Maybe just a B indicator behind those schools.
That will make for interesting reading!
knowthegame, Ek was in Rodeon, Swartruggens baie jare terug. Ons het toe nie veel games gewen nie ek glo ook nie dit het verander nie!
MAAR Rodeon het in 1927 en 1926 die Admin beker gewen!
Ek hoop Affies gaan darem op die lys kom een of ander tyd. Daar is darem ‘n paar skole daar wat hulle behoort te wen.
Ek hoop Affies gaan darem die top 30 haal hierdie jaar. Daar is verseker ‘n paar skole daar bo wat ek dink hulle behoort te kan wen.
@kosie: I think Tygerberg is the highest rank school (15) without boarding facility. Next up will be Stellenberg. I’m not sure about the rest.
I would love to see a Top 30 of zchools without a boarding facility. I think that would be very interesting
@Grasshopper I don’t know if you can at this stage determine how strong a team is as yet… Only GCB, PRG and Kloof. I think after a couple of weeks of the Regional derby’s we will actually see how strong the teams are, Personally I’m looking forward to that Monnas vs Glenwood match on the 31st
@Grasshopper: IMO KC top 20 at least. Have not lost locally and been turned over by Grey P.E., HTS Middelberg and E.G.Jansen which are high quality sides. Beaten Westville and PBHS in the process of having a 9/3 win/loss ratio.
@Teebow: not sure, just seems at the moment to reflect actual strengths of the sides better….sometimes stats don’t tell the full picture either and remember I’m a stats man…
@Grasshopper I don’t agree with you on that. I think these ranking are more accurate… The points margins/spread reflect on how close the teams are. That ranking seems to be base more on who lost against who, which team beat another team… and because of that they should be higher. How was that list compiled?
This ranking just feels better to me; http://www.rugby15.co.za/school-rankings/
@BoishaaiPa: I will thanks, don’t think it will last that long though, I could be wrong…..let’s hope so…
@tzavosky: Ek twyfel of Know enigsens kan lees. Ek sien ook hy sukkel om te sien………hy versuim om die ‘reply’ opsie aan te wend en skryf sommer so in die algemeen en begin sy sinne met kleinletters.
@Andre T: Mnr T, moet nou nie moedswillig-dom wees nie, ek het mos twee weke terug al vir Know gesê dit gaan vir Helpies ‘n stappie in die park wees. Glo my, daai 31-24 vlei Ben Vorster.
Maaind djoe, dit was amper ‘n draw, wat die grootste onreg sou wees wat ek nog gesien het.
Maar ek sien Know het nou nog nie die BB-skeidsregtersvereniging se verslag gelees oor Mnr Aucamp se skeidsregterskap nie.
@Beet
Thank you!
@knowthegame: Sal hulle eers teen Vrede meet.
ek het nou net met n ou vriend op Swartruggens gepraat en is hy gatvol.Rodeon hoerskool het al 12 hulle wedstryde gewen die jaar en hulle is nerens te sien-glo my die man is omgekrap en jy weet natuurlik dit is juju se area
@jakes: Die 14de Junie
@knowthegame: M.a.w jy het n mosie van wantroue in hierdie formule aangedrewe sisteem?
Man ek praat onder korreksie-was nie daar,maar met 8/9-2e span spelers in die span a.g.v beserings het helpies 34-21 of so iets gewen,maar BV bokant
hulle op ranglys.Ek dink Wilge rivier of Langenhoven kan met die sisteem dalk dinge uitspook vir bokant van ranglys
@LAEVELDER: Hi Laevelder. You are right about Nellies. I have all these results but only the games vs the other Noordvall teams on that table count for regional. So Marais Viljoen Florida and St Johns not included
@Grasshopper: For this week…you are No 3. Just enjoy it and dont over analize!
@knowthegame: Knowtjie, wie het gewen tussen Helpmekaar en Ben Vorster?
ek dink net skeidsregters seker nou beter op Tzaneen-die Aucamps ens blaas seker nie meer nie……
Glenwood are certainly Top 10 but not Top 5, they have played 10 and lost 2. My top 5 would be Grey Bloem, Paul Roos, Waterkloof, Paarl Gim & Paarl Boys…followed by Grey PE, Garsies, EG Jansen, Glenwood, Westville & Grey PE….it’s quite early to have a clear cut top 10.
Hi guys! You might be missing some games Nelspruit played (check regional league application too)
Verloor – Garsfontein 19-25
Wen – Florida 29-0
Wen – Marais Viljoen 22-19
Wen – Transvalia 22-17
Wen – St. Johns 29-20
Wen – Pretoria Boys High 14-3
Verloor – Paul Roos 10-15
Verloor – E.G. Jansen 15-24
Wen -Garsfontein 28-27
Wen 6 uit 9 sover , Noordvaal streek games: Wen 6 uit 8
@Gungets Tuft: I seriously think Jordaan is a reincarnation of The Beast
@Andre T: Hahahahaha! I guess we will find out this Saturday
@Jordaan: I am losing my memory. Can you remind me of those “far too many games” lost to opposition lower than them. I remember 3/3 locally ad an unbeaten KERF.
@Jordaan: Hopper, not like you to not be high 5ing and chest slapping your top 3 status, come on, get the gees going…
Glenwood at no. 3 is ridiculous and we all know it, already lost way too many games to sides ranked much lower that them on the list. Honestly, about 15th is more realistic based on their results to date.
Woltrui- grap net. Affies se seisoen begin optel. Die score teen Grey College bewys dit. Baie het gese jul gaan jul grootste pak ooit kry teen Grey college en was toe nie. Dit gaan nog interssant raak. Wanner speel jul teen Garsfontein? Dit kan grote wees en kan dalk net die regte inspuitin wees om weer jul naam in ere te herstel. Wil nie die game mis
@jakes: Sug…. sug….. Jakie. Jakie. Moenounie k@k soekie. Gaan jy ons nou rerig in die ribbes skop terwyl ons le?
Teebow you are right. The saeson only about halfway now maybe – get to excited to early. A lot can still happen especially in the Beeld trophy. On another note, the Affies supporters are quiet today
@Jake @BoishaaiPa EG have a lot of opportunity to move up. There are a lot of matches still to come. don’t know why Jake is even bothered. Personally I think the teams are evenly matched… Saying that EG would just breeze past Monnas and Garsfontein because they won Tuks reeks, I don’t know about that… I hope we get to see EG vs Garsforntein or EG vs Monnas in the Beeld tournament
BoishaaiPa- okay thanks for explaining that. Let us see how the rest of the season goes. It is still early. I strongly believe EGJ will and must end up much higher than 13th place as per current form depending on how the rest of the season goes
@tzavosky: So sal Affies ook nog inkom wanneer hulle weer so paar games wen. Dit is hoe die prentjie op die oomblik lyk.
That theory only works if you take only the TUKS series games into consideration..unfortunatly, other games was played as well! ..you cant pick which games the rankings are based on.
@jakes: How do you work that one out?..If you loose you loose…you gain or loose points points based on your OPPONENTS category ranking..not your own! ..EG have played 3 category 5 ranked teams and could have gained 5 points for a win in each of them, but they lost by between 15 to 20 in each game and so did not earn any points. Those teams only gained 4.5 points based on EG category…Teebow is actually correct with his analysis.
In alle eerlikheid, Ben Vorster moet ten minste 20 posisies laer wees op die ranglys – verlore teen Jim Fouché en Helpmekaar wat nie die Top30 haal nie. Vreemd!
Teebow only you can think that way. Garsfontein and Monnas played in the same competition as EG Jansen.I do not really care about the ranking system. It is a good barometer, but definitely not accurate. It is just common sense that after the tuks series EG Jansen should be rated higher than Garsfontein, Monnas and HTSM.
@Jakes You’re on the same amount of points, Does it matter whether you’re 12th or 13th? I think EG being 4th to 7th is invalid, You don’t know whether EG would Knockoff any of the teams that lie 4th to 7th and also you don’t know whether EG would beat Monnas or Garsfontein… You’re making assumptions because, EG beat HTS twice and HTS beat Monnas and Garsfontein each by one point. Plus HTS have probably beaten more teams in the top 30 other than GCB can’t they argue that they should be higher???
All I am saying the category system does not make it accurate and penalize others. Example if a category 5 school lost 3 games and a category 4 school lost 3 games, who will be higher on the list? The category 5 school off course. Also the fact that HTS Middelburg was beaten twice by EG Jansen this season, but still rated higher than EG Jansen tells me something is not 100% correct.
@BoishaaiPa: Jy is heeltemal reg – niks word in April bepaal nie.
Dis net jammer dat dit jou gemiddeld afbring ipv bv onveranderd te laat. Ander opsie is om nie wenne teen ‘n span wat 2 kat punte onder jou is by te werk nie………..ek weet nie, dit maak net nie sin nie. Julle wen teen Sasolburg het jul gemiddeld met meer as 0.5 afgebring.
Maar ok, kom ons gee die seisoen kans soos jy sê, dis nog vroeg.
thanks for the updated rankings
It looks fair plus the points difference between the teams are minimal, it affords for accurate change in the long run as the teams play against each other… I also think if you pickup bonus points for beating lower ranked teams by a certain amount of points what’s to stop certain teams from avoiding big games
@Tierklou: Met daardie bewerking kan n skool wat dan net teen swakker spanne speel en met groot tellings wen op die ou einde met n baie goeie gemiddeld eindig sonder om werklik getoets te word…en maklik in die Top 10 inskuif…Moenie worry nie..hierdie stelsel is getoets oor 6 jaar en hoe langer die seisoen aangaan en hoe meer games gespeel word, hoe meer sal die dinge in plek val en hoe meer sal dit begin sin maak. Daar is altyd redelike beweging vroeer in die seisoen todat almal darem so 12 of meer games gespeel het. Die belangrikste is waar jy eindig aan die einde van die seisoen, nie waar jy nou is nie!
@jakes: Dis omdat jy net na een reeks kyk en nie na die groter prentjie nie…Jy kan jouself nie net meet aan wenne teen spesiefieke spanne nie, ook aan verlore en die tellings en aan hoe ander spanne vaar. Dit het ook niks met die “rated lower from the start of the season” te doen nie want die stelsel verwerk die huidige kategoriepunt regdeur alle wedstryde in die seisoen. Elkeen voel maar sy span moet hoer wees, maar ander spanne wat beter gevaar het in die groter konteks sal daardie span bietjie afdruk in die ranglys.
@BHP – Iets om miskien aan te dink. Huidiglik word ‘n span “gepenaliseer” as jy teen ‘n span speel in ‘n laer kategorie. Bv Tygerberg skryf in vir die Wynberg Fees en ons kry St Davids & Windhoek om te speel.
St Davids (alhoewel ons hulle met meer as 50 punte klop) bring ons gemiddeld af. So ook Windhoek. Maar iemand moet tog die skole speel.
Oplossing:
Gee steeds bonus vir ‘n wen van 30+ teen ‘n teenstander in jou kategorie of hoër.
Maar vir ‘n wen met 40+ punte teen ‘n skool in ‘n laer kategorie, kry jy dieselfde punt as die kategorie waarin jy is.
MAW – Boishaai speel teen Sasolburg wat ‘n kat 2 is en wen met 50 punte. Boishaai kry 5 uit die wen ipv 2.5
Kan ook nie glo dat Framesby nie eers onder Top 30 is nie.
Waars Stellenberg?….nog nooit van hulle gehoor
Also impossible for Dale to be above Queens……what a Playa
I think this list was compiled with too much Red Heart or under the influence of too much Ishikawa Ozaki from Japan
EG Jansen at 13 below HTS Middelburg, Monument and Garsfontein. Ja nee ek weet nie so lekker oor die een nie!! They have come out tops above all 03 these schools in the Tuks reeks.. they have lost against nr 1 , 2 and 3 but won all their other games. I think a 4 – 7 position will be fair for them..This is proof that the formula can not be 100 percent accurate especially if a team is rated lower from the start of the season