| DAY | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | EVENT | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mon | 05/05/2014 | Bishops | 39 | 15 | St Andrew’s | Oldest Derby in SA |
| Wed | 06/05/2014 | Centurion | 13 | 17 | Eldoraigne | |
| Wed | 07/05/2014 | On B – E teams playing | ||||
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | EG Jansen | 37 | 22 | HTS Middelburg | Tuks-Reeks Final |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Garsfontein | 27 | 28 | Nelspruit | Tuks-Reeks 3/4 Playoff |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Monument | 18 | 19 | Kempton Park | Tuks-Reeks 5/6 Playoff |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Eldoraigne | 13 | 14 | Transvalia | Tuks-Reeks 7/8 Playoff |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Marais Viljoen | 12 | 40 | Centurion | Tuks-Reeks 9/10 Playoff |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Klerksdorp | 28 | 25 | Florida | Tuks-Reeks 11/12 Playoff |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Pietersburg | 22 | 46 | Rustenburg | Tuks-Reeks 13/14 Playoff |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Ermelo | 22 | 32 | Vereeniging Gim | Tuks-Reeks 15/16 Playoff |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Glenwood | 38 | 13 | DHS | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | KES | 25 | 25 | Maritzburg College | Grogper Cup |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Pretoria BH | 5 | 35 | Westville | Grogper Cup |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Michaelhouse | 50 | 10 | St Charles | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Northwood | 32 | 14 | Hilton | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Kearsney | 43 | 8 | Clifton | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Kearsney 2nd XV | 15 | 10 | George Campbell | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Voortrekker (Pmb) | 15 | 20 | Port Natal | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Daniel Pienaar | 9 | 10 | Brandwag (Uitenhage) | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | De Vos Malan | Selborne 1sts not playing | |||
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Grens | 61 | 7 | Hangklip | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Framesby | 81 | 0 | Otto du Plessis | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Kingswood | 20 | 19 | Hudson Park | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Nico Malan | 24 | 10 | Muir | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Port Rex | 15 | 24 | Cambridge | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Queen’s | 29 | 25 | Grey HS | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | St Andrew’s | 31 | 17 | Graeme | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Stirling | 10 | 78 | Dale | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Marlow | 27 | 23 | Jim Fouche | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Parktown | 11 | 11 | St Alban’s | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | St Andrew’s (FS) | 14 | 75 | St John’s | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | St David’s | 21 | 31 | St Benedict’s | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | St Stithians | 14 | 50 | Jeppe | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Augsburg | 36 | 5 | Porterville | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Boland Landbou | 27 | 13 | Rondebosch | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Drostdy | 20 | 12 | Worcester Gim | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Hugenote | 31 | 3 | Durbanville | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Paarl Gim | 10 | 16 | Paul Roos | On TV |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | SACS | 5 | 80 | Bishops | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Stellenberg | 19 | 13 | Bellville | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Swartland | 5 | 29 | De Kuilen | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Tygerberg | 22 | 20 | Strand | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Wynberg | 22 | 24 | HJS Paarl BH | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Menlopark | 30 | 55 | Waterkloof | Beeld |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Affies | 31 | 42 | Grey College | On TV |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | AHS Kroonstad | 17 | 23 | Welkom Gim | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Hentie Cilliers | 14 | 23 | Voortrekker (Beth) | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Fichardtpark | 33 | 29 | Sentraal (FS) | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Louis Botha | 34 | 29 | Sand du Plessis | |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Alberton | 14 | 19 | Bastion | Beeld |
| Fri | 09/05/2014 | Linden | 29 | 19 | Riebeeckrand | Beeld |
| Sat | 10/05/2014 | Ben Vorster | 24 | 31 | Helpmekaar |
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@Maroon: Ja, die groot nr1. PRG se skrum het lekker onder Gim s’n gekom en ontwrig.
@PaarlBok: is Van den Berg die arme stut wat teen Korf geskrum het?
Baie geluk aan Hoerskool Klerksdorp met hul oorwinning oor Florida. 11de uit 16 spanne in Noordvaal seker nie so sleg vir n span wat op sy dae die Admin Cup gewen het nie.
@Andre T: Ek weet nie van die rugby nie maar het hom by die dogtershokkie gesien.
@PaarlBok: Was Bateman darem by die game?
en PRG moet maar daai voete stewig op die aarde hou, hoe gouer hulle die wen agter hulle sit, hoe beter. Anders sien hulle dalk net hul agterente die naweek. Dis een ding wat hulle maar kan leer by Gim, Gim sal dalk teen PRG of HJS of Boland Landbou of Affies of Grey Bloem verloor, maar n verloor teen die suidelike voorstede of grey PE bestaan nie vir hulle nie. Daai Grey PE verloor is nog te vars in die geheue. Die seisoen het nou eers begin.
Was n groot maroen naweek in die Paarl. geluk ook aan Bloemhof wat Gim se dogters vir die eerste keer in n baie lang tyd op die hokkieveld geklop het. Net een Gim A span het gewen in rugby en hokkie die naweek en dis die u16A rugby span.
Moet se die Jolla bolla van PRG is baie spesiaal. Pragtig om sulke kultuur in ons rugby te sien. Ek was nog altyd een wat groot respek vir die All Blacks se haka het maar die Jolla is regtig iets soos die cut throat haka wat gebere word vir n opponeent wat respek verdien. en dis Paarl Gim.
Daar is baie vir Gim om uit die verloor te leer. Gavin vd Berg sal moet leer dat skrumwerk enige ordentlike stut se eerste prioriteit is en nie hoort in die agterlyn se pad nie.
In die Paarl is daar net een wedstryd wat regtig saak maak, die verloor gaan nog dalk maak dat hulle na die eerste week in Augustus vir PRG dankie se as hulle die lesse vat uit dit.
@CHS08: hahahaha! Sho!
@Roger: Pity we missed it – sounded like a cracker!
On the issue of the charged down kick – having watched the Lions come so close against the Highlanders – what do others think ? is it not time that they outlaw the charge down – the ball is essentially dead – whether it goes over the deadball line , off the post, along the ground, out the ground, in the ditch , anywhere – the next play is the kick-off to restart (or end of game) – surely there should be no further opportunity to disrupt the kick – the try was scored fair and square, and the same fair chance should be given to the kicker as if it were a penalty – perhaps the opponents should be allowed the 10 meter gap.
Just something to think about maybe?…………….
@Grasshopper: if I’m not mistaken your father is a KES old boy. If so maybe he would like to attend:
KING EDWARD ASSOCIATION DURBAN GATHERING
King Edward VII School will be travelling to Durban for the Westville Fixture on 24 May 2014.
We will be having a social gathering on Friday, 23 May 2014 at Hops (Riverside Hotel, 10 Kenneth Kaunda Road (Northway), Durban North from 18h00 onwards. Our Headmaster, David Lovatt will address the gathering and provide an update on the School.
We are calling on all Old Boys and Past Parents living in and around Durban to please join us.
All Parents travelling to Westville we would love to see you as well.
Kindly RSVP to Billy Foster – libertykzn@mweb.co.za and Derron van Eeden – DvanEeden@kes.co.za for catering purposes.
Kind regards
KING EDWARD ASSOCIATION
@Grasshopper: Paul Roos was a complete misnomer – so many factors combining to create the perfect storm. That was not the real KES team out there (thank God they were playing in green – maybe people thought it was Glenwood
)
It was just an (effin) bad day at the office.
@DieBos: Injuries are part of rugby. Live with it!!!!
@Roger: Jee, if KES play like they did against Paul Roos, no chance….but Affies are up and down too this season. Westville probably are favourites at home…..College must have had a mare then if the game was that close…
@star: @Grasshopper: KES playing Westville in two weeks time – Westville gotta be favourites for that game at home. With the greatest respect to College – this was one that got away. KES kicker hit the post from in front which would have made it 27-22 with 3 minutes to go. KES also butchered two tries in that five minute period before half time. Wing and number 8 dropping the ball with the tryline at their mercy!
Credit to College though – they came out fighting in the 2nd half and took the lead but on balance I think KES deserved the win. What a great game of rugger – well done both schools.
College number 5, 7, 13 and 15 great players.
In the 2nds the KES kicker had his conversion from in front charged down!! That was another game that got away!
KES play Affies at home this weekend – do I sniff an upset!!
@PRondersteuner:
They must have had a lot of injuries, winning only 2 games
@Player:
, undithengele iBurger Saturday ke bra wam.
@star: Yep, or it then goes down to Michaelhouse, College, Kearsney etc to seal the GEMS fate if Westville lose….I might have to rush back from our Old boys day vs College to hand over the wooden spoon to Rog!
@ Grassy- does this mean that the KES/Westville match could decide the fate of the cup.( which I believe you were going to sponsor
) If so then maybe your old man should shimmy across the road and get Roger the dodger to do an official hand over. That also presumes that Westville beats KES. After the College result things have got a lot more unpredictable. I put my golden ball on that match as I thought it was a sure thing and thereby lost my crown. As Bert would say ” Unbelievable”. 
@star: I knew a Westville blogger would say that now, the same could be said for previous years where Glenwood improved as the season went on and Westville regressed. The beauty of one game a year allows for bragging rights, two would be better though. Well done to Westville for getting KZN another Grogper point :-). College and KES sharing a point of no points given for a draw?
Well done Westville on more than doubling your previous best margin of 13(2006) against PBHS. You came out firing, were physical in the tight exchanges and ran great angles in the backline. The team looks really settled now and is incomparable to the team that took on GW first up at home. Boy a return match would be great now. A big thank you for the great hospitality shown in Pretoria. You have a most beautiful school. Of concern though is that your U16A lost 47 nil while your U14As 55 nil. A know a lot is made of the so called sport academies and that winning is not everything but there has to be some balance for a school with such unbelievable tradition and pride.
@maroon8: Dis presies wat hulle die laaste 10 min gedoen het, maar daarvan het net 3 punte gekom. As dit droog was, was die telling baie groter.
@Playa: Lol…i also thought i was dyslexic when CHS08 told me the QC vs Grey PE result. I was like
…and remembered the words of Queenian: “Although I do believe in miracles maybe Grey should remember a certain game about 15 years ago in PE when Grey went into that game with 7 wins from 7 games and Queens 1 win from 6 games and QC won.” Well done to Queens College! 
i-Dale yona must play like they did against Stirling.
@PRondersteuner: I agree 100% with your comment. On the day the team on the field is the school’s 1st team, no matter what and they should be supported as the 1st team. The reserve players that came in are also wearing the jersey with pride and do expect the same support.
I take my hats off to Queens!I thought I had become dyslexic when I read Queenian’s sms on Saturday afternoon with the final score.In the words of our former headmaster, Mr Malcolm Andrew: “Be aware of the wounded kudu”.Grey should learn from this.
Hope the Dalians realise this…I am not driving 1000 km to watch a loss at the graveyard
I am looking forward to that battle.
@PRondersteuner:
Die Roos het swak gespeel…..ons moes hulle met meer as 20 gevat het..
…hoekom nie meer met voorspelers gespeel in iste helfte nie…was dit gameplan?
in natweer weet almal die bal is maar glibberig agter en lang passes en mistas van balle het hoogty gevier….weereens was dit gameplan?.
.sit die blerrie bal op voet en speel in opponent se helfte in plaas van lang passes in eie helfte….die HEELTYD in sulke weer!
Egter….dink ek die sappies het na die game goed afgegaan…die Maroon Machine het die ene verdien!
Wel gedaan Gimmies……julle het nooit gaan le nie…..en kan trots wees.
Met skolerugby moet jy maar jou bek hou en nie die hond skop wat le nie…..more le jy….kyk hoe gaan dit met die Stormers!
Ek moet se dis die Jolla wat die vinnigste en mooiste begin het in ‘n lang tyd……mag dit die begin wees van nog baie!
@PRondersteuner: some comments were passed by Gim supporters after the game as they walked pass myself & a few others,quite sad actually! One can quickly pickup if things are said in good spirit/jest or just being plain sour
@PRondersteuner: Agreed 100%. Last year when Tom, a few Dicks and a couple of second rate Harry’s knocked Boland over, in a year where 50 players played for the first team because of injuries, I never heard the coach or supporters complain. I certainly tried to put it into context a few times, in view of Boland’s small numbers, but every boy that played there on the day was the best available and deserved to play there on the day.
@PRondersteuner: Thats very sad… but I think its a lot like other things in life…. a case of not seeing the woods for the trees.
@PRondersteuner: sour grapes maybe? Grey PE must be in absolute shock too!
I heard some shocking news about Paarl Gym today. Their own supporters supported the 1st team as if it was the 2nd XV. “Come on seccies” were heard amongst their supporters and excuses of many injuries. We all know that they have many injuries, but bloody hell. You support your 1st team for what they are. The 1st team finish and klaar!!!!! Injuries will always be there. Live with it. Boishaai also had many injuries and just arrived back from Japan. They still beat a very good Wynberg team in their own backyard.
@Rugbyman: Thanks , sounds more like the way I thought it would go.
@GREENMASJIEN: waterkloof definitely won 55 – 30… saw the game myself
Tandem( londonussus ) is different from me. This is only for the record. I do not necessarily,disagree or agree, with him.
Beet ,
Please double check the Waterkloof – Menlo result as I have seen others report it differently with Waterkloof as the winners.
Thanks
@Queenian: That’s what I’ve been SAYING in this blog there is no way Bosch is better than Courtney and Morgan!!!!!! He is overrated!!!! Speaking of Courtney I watched him destroy Stirling yesterday! Man Dale play thee most attractive rugby in the Eastern Cape! When u watching Dale even if they lose you are guarenteed entertainment I love them!!! Morgan Steyn is something else aswell!
@rugbyfan: Thanks a lot for the analysis! I see the wheels are falling off for Grey PE in what promised to be one of their best seasons ever! This group at Junior Level were amazing I spent 3 years watching them! I don’t want to comment about the Grey parents, don’t want to get any1 angry.
@DieBos: Definitely an achievement worth mentioning.
@Ploegskaar:
Worth mentioning that PRG won all but 2 games
U16b 10-15
U16a 5-8
Hats off to Queens. Well played and showed lots of character. Grey did not do themselves any favours by not getting their kicks over on the day. Only 2 of the 9 kickable kicks were slotted over the posts. Also the poor Grey right wing had a steam train that ran past him every time the Queens boy got the ball.
@Tandem: No, I understood your comments which are valid in view of the score lines. Just feel the Bosch boys deserve some credit for their gutsy efforts on the day, you know us Boland players and supporters are humble folk
.
Congratulations to Boishaai and PRG for achieving great results yesterday, Boishaai’s circumstances before the match were well documented, while a win at the Kriel is rare for any visiting team. Both schools showed ample character and should be very proud today.
@Ploegskaar: Good morning : I immediately knew when I wrote my previous comment that it may come over as not giving Landbou the credit they deserve . Please be assured that I do know how hard Landbou is working on their recruitment efforts and their coaching and that things are looking very promising on the Plaas and that next Saturday it will be a titanic battle in all games . It will be very interesting to see the 014A and 015 A results because these results should give a fair indication how things may develop in years to come ? Thanks for giving me the information on what actually happened in all the junior games . My context should be seen in my disappointment with how Bosch rugby went backwards from my times playing against them and where they are today . Scores should not have 20 point differences against their traditional opponents if they are in any shape or form going to be a competitive force .
@Tandem: Apart from the u14a and u16a match, Bosch was actually very competitive. To put it in perspective, the BL u15a’s were down 0-12 at HT and showed a lot of guts to come from behind against a strong Bosch side. Likewise the HT score was 13 all in the u19a match and Bosch played out of their socks with something like 8-10 first choice players injured or sick. All the Bosch boys left the Farm with heads held high yesterday while the young BL u19a team still has a lot of hard work to do to match the likes of Boishaai this coming weekend and PRG and Gym later in the season
@Queenian: Must have been a good dose of old fashioned “supplents”- terpentine up their— Or they read my comments to you the other day. Whatever the reason, it was pleasing, because its never nice to witness the demise of an institution with such a rich and proud history
@Queenian: Really looks like Queens are Grey PE bogey team they have beaten them 3 out of the last 4 games.
Will never forget when I was under15,s at Grey Bloem the last practice before we played Queen’s they had Helgard Muller come talk to us and what he said ” I don’t know how good Queens will be they might actually not be good they will be smaller and you and I doubt they have the players to beat you but what I can tell you is they have guts,guts,guts and more guts.”
Well we won 15-14 I remember and they were not good.
@CHS08: Will say Grey PE made one very big tactical error just like some of the SA Super Rugby teams do against say the Chiefs, The Grey No10 Bosch just kept on kicking the ball down the Queens backs throats and they just ran it back at them.
Bosch has nothing on Dale’s Winnaar or the Selborne fly half very over rated I think.
@rugbyfan: He did not hand them off he “bounced them”
@GCollege86: Thanks Queens stood up when it counted. Only two things I can say is!
Grey PE got “Gerry Danquad”ed
And in the words of current Grey PE Rector “Batty Crawford” there is only one College and that’s Queens College.
Must say besides the 1st team the 2nd team played like demons and just lost to Grey 2nd’s 23-25.
He ran some 40 meters and handed-off about 5 players I was very impressed with this boy big strong and fast sure we see a lot of him after school.
The one try scored by Jerry Danquah must be one of the best schoolboy tries I have seen for along time. Queens scored two minutes from the end to win a classic.
@CHS08: Was there QC played well did all the basic,s right and controlled a lot of the ball QC forwards did very well and the backline specially Jerry Danquah were brilliant. Also think Grey thought this would be a walk in the park.
When they play as a team like this QC are a very good unit but lets see if they can play like this again.
Was very disappointed walking out of the Rec afterwards behind a whole lot of Grey parents they were moaning about every thing from the ref to maybe somebody drugged them, were I can tell you the ref had no influence on this game.
Well done to Queens they actually reminded me of Queens from the days when we would come down from Grey Bloem to play here they were all passion and guts.
@Ploegskaar: awesome results for Boland Landbou
@Hanswors: stem 100% saam met jou opsomming oor die kloof wedstryd… skeidsregter was baie swak… thinus baie goed… menlo het n rugbyles gekry! Kloof se loosies en 9 was vir my ook goed! 9 kry die val baie vinnig weg en is n baie onderskatte speler, hy skep baie spasie vir die kloof backs
Baie geluk aan EG Jansen. Die 2013/2014 seisoene lewer Beeld en Tuks kampioene en top rugbyspanne. Baie goeie werk word hier gedoen. Vandag het hulle HTS Middelburg vroeg in die wedstryd van hul voete af gespeel met briljante rugby en op stadium gelyk of daar ‘n groot telling gaan wees. Maar HTSM het heeltyd opvang rugby gespeel en haal my hoed af. Moet byvoeg dat die skopskoen EGJ in die steek gelaat het. Net 1 van die doelskoppe is verdoel. Die telling kon heelwat groter gewees het. Maar die titel is in die sakkie. Nou vir die Beeld trofee se begin, alle sterkte vorentoe
@Tandem: @Tandem: Boland have very potent junior groups..their u/14’s beat Affies and today Affies won 31-11 against Grey today…I know one cannot use this as a yardstick, but it gives you an indication of what Boland is capable of.
@Ploegskaar: Not taking anything away from Landbou but these scores are really not good for Bosch. What is going on with them ? A few years ago it looked if they are pulling things together but now it seems they are in serious trouble ! No Bosch side should get these types of scores against them . Well done to Landbou however .
Boland Landbou results vs Rondebosch:
U14a won 40-7
U15a won 21-19
U16a won 55-7
U19a won 27-13
What the hell happened at the REC? How did Grey PE manage to lose to Queens?
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Grey College X-factor backs fit for Affies match
Posted by beet 1 day ago
Category: F/State-Griquas, Noordvaal
Grey College’s last televised game was their 25-7 victory over Outeniqua at Wildeklawer on 28 April 2014. They achieved this without two of their outstanding attacking backline players.The Bloemfontein rugby factory has x-factor players Henry Immelman and Julian Jordaan fully fit and raring to go for this FNB Classic Clash game against Affies in Pretoria on Saturday, 10 May 2014. The game kicks off at 14h05 and will televised on SuperSport 1. Both Immelman and Jordaan are attack specialists capable of penetrating even the most well organised and committed defences. Laurens Steenkamp, the under-17 player who filled in for Immelman with such distinction at Wildeklawer switches from fullback to the right wing.
Affies have their own “X” in the brilliant Eduan Keyter at fullback.
Teams:
AFFIESGREY COLLEGEGREY DoB (Age)
1DP du Plessis1Ruben Terblanche1996/02/21 (18)
2Viaan Mong2JC Van Vuuren1996/01/03 (18)
3Reinhard Goosen3Janu Botha1996/03/06 (18)
4Rohan Roelofse (k)4Jurie Burger1997/10/20 (16)
5Human Bodenstein5Kassel Rothman1996/04/16 (17)
6Gavin Forster6De Wet Bezuidenhoudt1996/09/10 (17)
7Vic Meyer7Henry Henry Slabbert1996/03/04 (18)
8Eduan Lubbe8Alex Jonker1996/07/23(17)
9Divan Henning9Dian Badenhorst1996/08/08 (17)
10Eddie Fouche10Dwayne Wessels1996/01/09 (18)
11Janco Booysen11Niell Stannard1996/04/16 (17)
12Henco Jordaan12Mike Anndrade1996/02/27 (18)
13Rhyno Lourens13Julian Jordaan1996/01/02 (18)
14TiaanSchmulian14Lourens Steenkamp1997/02/18 (17
15Eduan Keyter15Henry Immelman1995/05/26 (18)
16Daniel Rust1997/02/13 (17)
17Callie Van Vuuren1995/05/03 (18)
18Janco Van Tonder1997/03/06 (17
19Marius Kruger
20CJ Lotter1996/03/02 (18
21Glen Erickson1996/04/17 (17
22Lourens Steenkamp1997/02/18 (17)
23Raynard Esterhuizen1997/03/28 (17)
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BOG
Notably, 11 of the group, are U17. Hoping for a greyt, clean, open and injury-free contest and a continuation of the trend until 2011. All that remains then, is : Vive la Grey !!
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beet
@BOG: If you go by the calendar year divide 6 born in 1997 and therefore u17 of which 2 in the starting line-up. But means little at Grey because we know there 2nd team is quality and will contain many more u17s
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BuffelsCM
@BOG: A correction please: You are U17 if you were born in 1997 – therefore there are 6 U17 players, 14 U18 players (born in 1996) and 2 U19 (born in 1995).
Your age on the day of the match does not determine whether you are U17, U18 etc.
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BOG
@BuffelsCM: Thank you. Im now double sure
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BuffelsCM
@BOG: You’re welcome !
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Speartackle
Vrede 47 – 5 Harrismith
Hope this result will mean an invite to the North vs South next year.
Also a friendly reminder of the rise back to the top after the 1948 Fichardt |Shield
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RBugger
I think this might be the most one sided contest in years, Affies looked awful against Gimmies and there results this year are almost unbelievable. Must rnak up there as one of the worst years they have ever had. Hopefully their pride and home field advantage can help make a game of it
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Playa
@Speartackle: It will be interesting to see how your boys fare against Wilgerivier. I see you’re avoiding Bothaville this year
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Speartackle
@Playa: Nope, they’re on our radar. The one thing about Vrede is we play whoever is given to us.
We don’t mind playing Grey, we’ll play them anywhere, anytime.
If you can beat them once…….you can beat them anytime
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BoishaaiPa
I wont write Affies off that easily. This is a season of upsets…Saturday there might be another one!
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Speartackle
@BoishaaiPa: In Cape Town?
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Maroon
@BoishaaiPa: nee wat BHP. Dink jy kan hierdie resultaat maar neerskryf as ‘n wen vir Grey. Laas jaar se verloor in Bloem sal die kans vir gerustheid teenwerk.
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BoishaaiPa
@Speartackle: No in Tswane!…The upset in Cape Town will be if Boishaai manages a win against Wynberg!
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BoishaaiPa
@Maroon: Hierdie Affie span is warm en koud…Kyk hulle resultate teen Selborne en Oakdale..Dis nie n spannetjie wat sommer net so afgeskryf kan word nie. Grey gaan klippe kou as hulle wil wen Saterdag…Dit is natuurlik behalwe as die Affie span wat teen Gim gespeel het opdaag…
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BOG
@RBugger: GCB will never underestimate or disrespect an opponent, whatever their form. Affies has a long and rich history with the capacity to lift themselves. I dont mean this arrogantly, but GCB does have a reputation. Opponents come at them, highly motivated and hyped up for the match, months before the event and this happens week after week. And if a team has nothing to lose, upsets can happen, as apparently did back in 1948 (Im still looking for proof of this match though) So, Im sure GCB will be aware of this, and as is the case with every match, they will respect their opponents, particularly if its Affies. But being a loyal OG, Im hoping they can push the number of wins deeper into the 30s.@Speartackle: Just check your geography. Vrede is in the Central (or neutral) region. The N-S contest is to determine who is 2nd and 3rd
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Woltrui
Could be a long day for our(Affies) first team. Games that should be interesting is the U/14, -15 and -16 matches.
Hopefully our first hockey team can do what no other Affies 1st team had done before. Sterkte almal betrokke. Weet dit is ‘n groot dag vir al die seuns.
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Djou
@BuffelsCM @Bog: I see the point about u.17, u.18 and u.19. However, boys such as Jurie Burger (number 4 lock of Grey) will still be 16 when the season is over.
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BuffelsCM
@Djou: I realize that but unfortunately it is not taken into account in which month you were born. It is especially “bad” for a tight forward.
I read somewhere that most top performers (in sport) – especially at schools level – were born in the first half of the year. I have just had a look and 18 players in the Grey squad were born during the first 5 months of the year. I know all of them are not the same age but perhaps that theory holds some truth.
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It should be an easy win for Grey based on this years performance of both teams. However… watch this space..
Bog is 100% correct, Grey has a presence on the pitch, they are mentally on a different level even though they may at times be physically matched. This is true for all their sides.
Anyway, I have a feeling that there is going to be an upset.
I am very impressed with some of the individuals in the Grey side, such as no 6, Dewet Bezuidenhout and the no 15 that played against EG Jansen, think it was Lourens Steenkamp.
Would love to be able to see more games televised, probably just a matter of time before schools rugby is on tv as much as senior rugby.
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Woltrui
U/14. HT Affies 7-3 GC
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U14. Affies 31-11 GC. Much closer game than score reflected.
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U15 HT Affies 10-3 GB. HARD game.
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U16 Affies 3-7 GB HT
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Woltrui
U16. FT. Affies 11-7 GB. Mother of a game!
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Woltrui
Sorry. Affies u/15 won 18-3 vs GC.
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Woltrui
Big big win for Affies on the hockey field!! First team won 3-1.
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Waterkloof 55 Menlo 30
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Beampte wat die Kloof Menlo wedstryd hanteer het was baie swak. Sy beslissings het vuilspel toegelaat wat met kopstamp ge eindig het. Die speler het slegs n geelkaart gekry……….. Hy het duidelik n ander reelboek. Nommer 10 van Waterkloof verseker die beste 10 in Pretoria, skitterend Thinus de Beer! Menlo se 9 het goed gespeel en Kloof se lostrio is kookwater.
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Eerstes Grey 42 Affies 31
Tweedes Cherries 17 Affies 15 (Affies mis strafskop pale toe in laaste minuut)
Dink die gedagte dat Cherries die tweede beste span in land is ,is vandag begrawe.
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@Boats: Ou skippie, moenie wilde afleidings maak uit een wedstryd nie. En wie het nogal gese hulle is die tweede beste in die land? Maar die ref is sekerlik bestem vir S 15 hoogtes.
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After EG Jansen’s big win over After EG Jansens big win over HTS Middelburg today I can confidentally say that Affies will not match EG Jansen in 2014. Waterkloof and EG Jansen taking the lead in the Northvaal. Maybe a Beeld trophy final is on the cards for these two but still to early to tell
I must admit i had my doubts about Queen’s….but WOW!!! what a result for them. Congrats to the QC team. Looks like the Dale vs Queens match will be epic.
@Umtata: Dale 78-10 Stirling… i watched 5 mins of the 2nd half. Dale ran in 3 tries in the last 5 mins
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Cambridge scrapped a win over Port Rex 24-15. What a poor performance from CHS yhooo i was so dissappointed.
@Queenian: I told you so. Congrats to the QC team.
Kearsney 43 Clifton 8-full time . 36-3 AT HALFTIME. Clifton did well in the second half to keep the score respectable. They could have capitulated and it could have been a cricket score. Visser came off the bench and made a marked difference to the Kearsney scrum in the last 15 which up to that stage were being held by the less fancied boys from the Berea.
Next Saturday is a date with College on Goldstones where Kearsney’s unbeaten local season comes under threat.
@Gungets Tuft: great game see sawed the whole way – KES conversion hit the post
Last three minutes College battered away and Kes defense held but face away penalty after penalty – eventually College went for the draw as time was up and they were knackered. Well done both teams and travel safe College
@Balikibaba: thanx! Was really proud of the boys ending a bit of a drought against Gim.age group results PRG U19A 16 – 10 Paarl Gim
PRG U16A 5 – 8 Paarl Gim
PRG U15A 33 – 3 Paarl Gim
PRG U14A 17 – 14 Paarl Gim
Well done QC, I have to say I’m Shocked that they beat Grey. Hopefuly Dale can do the same in PE.
I’ll be there.
Partial results from KES vs College
1st D 25-25,
2nds D 13 -13,
16A College won 37-7,
15A College won 20-16
14A KES won 13-14
Hockey looked like a clean sweep but I don’t have all the results.
I should give credit to Queens as they were not playing to their potential till now. So glad for those boys
@ebie: That must surely be the upset of the weekend!
@phat55: Yes, there are going to be some epic battles this year in WC schoolboy rugby!
Well done to you guys on your great win today. I watched the last 30 minutes. Well deserved.
@Toffee: They definitely lack size. Remember, St Andrews are not such a big side either.
Sacs rugby is very strong at age group level and that is very good to see.
Bad luck to you guys. Almost a big victory. I heard you got pipped at the whistle?
Wynberg Bishops is going to be a great game!
Northwood 32 – 14 Full time
NW 32 – 14 HiLTON FT
@Balikibaba: thats great to hear,cant wait to see them in action in a full game especially against our boys.some epic battles looming this season!!
also heard Boishaai won Wynberg 24-22 on time apparently
MHS vs St Charles ended 50-10 to House, it was a drab affair with Roberts, Broadley , Zander Prinsloo and Bader Pretorius being the stand out players.
you heard right. I even have a pic of the scoreboard from one of the teachers from Queens
@Balikibaba. Must say I did not think this SACS team was that small when they played against St Andrews last week. I find it difficult to comprehend how any team from the Southern Suburbs can lose by 80 points to another S/Subs boys school. Bishops must have been brilliant and one has to congratulate them and in particular the coaches on the turnaround from a disappointing 2013. Confidence and belief is a big part of the Bishops game and it appears they have it abundance. SACS can take some positives out of the day in that the under 16a, under 15a and under 14a all won.
Hopefully Bishops can claim some big scalps this year.
Can anyone confirm what I just heard?
Queens beat Grey PE 29 25?
@Gungets Tuft: It certainly seems they have improved. Well done!
@phat55:
A combination of both.
Bishops were on fire in those conditions. The handling skills were dazzling and they run into space. I shudder to think what would have happened had it been dry.
Sacs were gutsy and had one or 2 moments, but they were really just too small in my opinion. They are really going to struggle against big opponents this year just because of their lack of size. They do have a few good players and their (small) number 8 and centres caught my attention.
Bishops, when they turn it on, will beat any school this year. But it all depends which Bishops side pitches up. A bit like the French. lol
NW 25 – 7
NW 18 – Hilton 7. Northwood on fire after an intercept try by their #14. Cell battery dying
@Balikibaba: 80-5!! wowza thats a hammering of note!! was Bishops on fire or SACS just poor?? or a mixture of both??
NW 11 – 7 HILTON HT
NW 11 – 7 Half time
@Balikibaba: Reunion day is generally worth 10 points.
KES showed against Noord Kaap they are no pushovers this year
Paul Roos 16 – Paarl Gim 10……good win boys!! nice to see the jolla bolla on that field again!
Glenwood win 38-13
@Gungets Tuft:
@Roger:
That is quite a result. I had College to take this one by ten.
@Roger: Eeisch. Must have had a penalty on full time. Will take the draw after the schedule and the travel.
NW 5 – 7 Hilton
25 all FT
NW 5 – 0 Hilton
EG Jansen 37 HTS Middelburg 22 Tuks final
25-22 KES
Result Grens 61 Hangklip 7
Waterkloof 55 Menlopark 30
Westville win 35-5
22-17 College
17-10 Kes
KES 10 – 3
Westville 20-0 up at HT
Glenwood is winning 7-0 at HT
2nds end 13 all
Bishops 80 Sacs 5
In fairness, this Sacs side is on the small side. I think they were very gutsy coming from such a proud school, but they are going to struggle against teams that are big.
U14 A KES by 1
U15 A College by 4
U16 A College by 30
3rds KES by 5
2nds KES up by 3
Nelspruit 28 Garsfontein 27 . Nellies win game with penalty in last minute. Another thriller
Transvalia 14 – 13 Eldoraigne FT. Close game. Transvalia winning with penalty conversion after the hooter.
@Grasshopper: Westville ahead of Northwood this year, very good team daarso in the Leafy ‘Burbs.
Glenwood nigh impossible to beat at 3 Schools Astro.
Kempton Park 19 Monument 18 . What a thriller to start the day with
@CharlesZA: You clearly misunderstood me, I certainly don’t care where people come from or where they stay, but back on earth most people have a chuckle at those dimwits that think they have made it because they live in that area or achieved something by attending that school. And in case you wanted to ask, I stay in Durbanville proper.
@CyndiAtRugby: “The Ben Vorster supporters, parents and coaches that impressed me so much by their behaviour at the BizSport festival. The words yelled were mostly encouraging and supportive – even encouraging the ref
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Thanks, Cindy, I’ll pass this on.
@Ploegskaar: Didnt realize that a bit of chirping on where people come from offended you so much. For the record I then grew up about 150m inside Bêllville.
@CharlesZA: That’s why I said some, it only takes a couple of droplets of piss to poison the well, or something like that.
Gene Louw side of Eversdal Road is Durbanville, the other side is as much Bellville as Oakdale and Blomtuin.
@GreenBlooded: No problem! There are many supporters that should read your comments.
@CharlesZA: If you were too far away you should have perhaps reserved your comments.
@Ploegskaar: LOL, did not realize there was a wrong side of Eversdal road. Just cause some parents were over confident it does not mean the whole school and all of its players/coaches/old boys are like that.
@Bonthuis: That was weeks ago in a night series game I believe that Glenwood had a weakened team. I never once said Glenwood were the hockey masters, in fact College and Northwood are currently. But Glenwood & Westville are close behind with some great individual players….
@BuffelsCM: Yes – I could tell from your post that you are one of a few who do know the difference. Sorry if my post appeared to be having a go at you – it certainly wasn’t.
@CharlesZA: He did not (and would not) make that type of comment and I am pretty sure he would have had practices. But then again, he is a real stand-up guy and I only have the utmost respect for him as a teacher and coach.
WRT my comments, please don’t get me wrong, the coaches are hard-working & dedicated guys and I do not have a problem with the players and pupils in general, but maybe some people need reminding that the school is very much on the wrong side of Eversdal Road and very much a Bellville School as well.
@BuffelsCM: Then I must have been too far away to see what really happend. I was however very close to the parents of the Bellville team that decided to swear at the ref 10 minutes later when he made a mistake.
@Ploegskaar: Im pretty sure that they would not skip practice for a game against a team they havent beaten in 2 years. I will ask their coach and get back to you on that one.
@CharlesZA: On current form your boys should bounce the boys from the other side of the N1 by 20, surely. And going on the comments at the WBRF, they did not think training was necessary this week before playing such a weak opponent either, so a walk in the park if you ask me.
One thing is for sure, the mentioned incident, many unbecoming remarks over the years, that attitude and cheering a big hit on a neighboring school’s player, as was the case at the WBRF, has done nothing to change the mentioned perception. Ever wondered why I have never been involved and will not even attend tomorrow’s game?
@GreenBlooded: Yes that is why I used the term “linesman” and not AR
@CharlesZA: It was that game yes and it happened right in front of me! It could have been worse if the coach did not step in. What will you do if the linesman grab your son’s jersey when he (your son) is lying on his back ?
@BoishaaiPa: No, it wasn’t Andre. I know him too. This was an older person and it happened about 15 years ago. I’ll rather not mention the club’s name
Thankfully we do not see such misbehaviour in the FS, primarily because of the honest abilities of the refs and secondly the basic decency of the people. It would seem that rugby there, is more entertainment than sport?
@Grasshopper: Westville 1st Hockey beat Glenwood 4 – 0! I thought Glenwood were the hockey masters in KZN??
@BuffelsCM: Are you talking about Andre Cilliers?..Andre is a friend and old cricket mate of mine that use to ref as well. His life was also threatened and he stopped blowing as well.
@Ploegskaar: Wow, that got out of hand very quickly. I was there that day and I didnt think the situation was that bad. Wasnt going to watch the game tomorrow but reckon I will want to see how the snobs beat the squeaky clean boys from down the road.
@BuffelsCM: Among the most misunderstood issues in rugby is the roles of and the difference between a linesman/touch judge and an assistant referee. The sideline experts (of whom there are multitudes) who have never seen, let alone read a rugby law book, need to understand this important difference – it is not all like you see with Craig Joubert and Stuart Berry on TV!!!
The Linesman / Touch Judge is a person who’s duty it is to ASSIST the referee by indicating when the ball is in-touch (Lawbook definition – Law 19 – not as simple as everyone thinks!!) and to ASSIST the referee with judging a kick at goal. That is it. Finnish and Klaar. Khuphela. His function is NOT to indicate foul play. His function is NOT is dispute the referees decisions. His function is NOT to coach players on the field. This is far less of a problem at schools that it is at clubs where the club appointed linesman often thinks it is his right to point out the referees failings (often voiciferously) and tell him how to ref at every lineout.
The Assistant Referee is a different animal. He is: 1. A Qualified Referee capable of refereeing at the same level of the game. 2. Appointed by an authority (Rugby Union, SARU, IRB). If he is not both of these – then he is a linesman / touch judge. The AR’s functions are the same as that of the linesman and in addition he is REQUIRED to signal FOUL PLAY infringements (Law 10) and furthermore REQUESTED to assist the referee as directed by the referee. Some referees like assistance with knock-on’s, skew throws etc – others don’t. The AR is NOT required to advise the referee that he missed this knock-on, offside blah blah blah. How often do you hear “Hey “Linesman” – didn’t you see that knock-on” from some beer swilling lout in the stands? The only offences an AR is obliged to signal are FOUL PLAY offences (LAW 10 in the book) which include the major sub-headings Obstruction, Unfair Play (intentional offending, time wasting and throwing the ball into touch), Repeated infringements, Dangerous Play and Misconduct (punching, high tackles etc).
Offside, knock on, forward pass blah blah blah do not fall under the FOUL PLAY law and therefore the AR is NOT required to signal them.
This does NOT apply to TV Rugby where the protocols are different.
There are strict protocols which govern the interaction between Referees and Assistant Referees which the general spectator is not aware of. Unfortunately, the lack of knowledge does not seem to keep them quiet. I had a parent a few weeks back pick a fight with me after the match because I did not allow a schoolboy linesman to signal a foul play incident – because he is not qualified to do so.
@BuffelsCM: As you know I was there, and that incident really marred a day on which all the matches were hard-fought but played in a good spirit. Said parent is well-known for his arrogance and never scared to make snide and derogatory remarks about so-called poor/common/other side of the rail track opponents. Unperturbed and unchecked, he and a small group of pompous parents with a similar mindset, sadly continue to feed the perception of the school as an arrogant snob establishment.
@BuffelsCM: Was that the u16 game vs Stellenberg last year?
@BuffelsCM: TJO!
@Playa: I know a referee whose life was threatened and once he had to leave the field under Police protection – that was in a First League Grand Challenge Cup match !! He then gave up refereeing (understandably).
Last year we had an incident which I’ve witnessed. Our one side went over the line for a try after a maul from a lineout. The next moment the linesman (definitely not a qualified person but a parent from the opponents) went onto the field and grabbed one of our forwards and pointed his finger into his face.
Fortunately for him the big guy was on his back. The linesman went around to stand behind the poles while the goal kick was being taken.
When he came back the prop’s dad jumped over the rope and confronted the linesman who apologized profusely (he could sense that he was in “trouble”). Fortunately the coach intervened.
I can understand that supporters get emotional but for a touch judge to get involved like that is really stupid !!
@Gungets Tuft: Agreed! The DHS fixture will never be dropped, it’s very special for both College and Glenwood for differing reasons. DHS are like our cousins across the road, most similar to us….College for the history and teaching links….almost brother schools. My dad and uncle are DHS Old boys……lot’s of links for many families. It will always be special and will bring the best out of both sides no matter the differing strengths…..look at the 90’s, one of our worst decades…
1990 L 10 – 22
1991 W 21 – 15
1992 L 13 – 16
1993 L 0 – 8
1994 L 12 – 39
1995 L 0 – 37
1996 W 20 – 17 (written off but won at DHS)
1997 W 27 – 15 & W 22 – 20
1998 W 17 – 10 & W 19 – 16
1999 L 14 – 33 & L 10 – 29
@CyndiAtRugby: It totally baffles me how adults can conduct themselves in such a manner. Sure, we all have our prejudices, whether inherited or self-developed. With all the politics et al that is involved in our sports, if there is one thing we ALL agree on, is that there is no place for prejudice, abuse, and barbaric behaviour in sport.
How one leaves the comfort of their own home to go and commit and encourage such acts is beyond me.
In my days of playing for UCT, there was a Mitchells Plain club known as Collegians (now defunct, thank goodness – and no one misses them). No one wanted to play them, some sides preferred to dock points by not honouring the fixture instead of playing them, especially away. The crowd was violent (some times fatally so), the players even more so. 2003 Iraq was a safer place than Lentegeur. Eventually, no one wanted to play them, and no one worth their salt wanted to play for them…and so came the decline. A similar stance is needed for schools with parents and learners who are unruly.
@rugbyfan: I have often been shocked at the behaviour of parents on the sides of the field and it seems to be getting worse. At a recent festival, I had to ask one of the officials to stand a bit closer and keep an eye on a parent who was threatening one of the wings. It got so bad that the wing wasn’t running his line to avoid this particular parent.
The Ben Vorster supporters, parents and coaches that impressed me so much by their behaviour at the BizSport festival. The words yelled were mostly encouraging and supportive – even encouraging the ref
The worst behaviour was by a young girl who was probably about 7 years old who was yelling the most horrendous things in disgusting language at the other side and the ref while her parents looked on and encouraged her.
@rugbyfan: Ek stem saam!
@Jordaan: Not really objective at all though. Look at the Glenwood results :
2004 W 17 – 12 & W 13 – 6 (5 and 7 point margin)
2005 W 31 – 16 & W 10 – 5 (5 point margin)
2006 L 21 – 28 & W 34 – 9
2007 W 13 – 6 (7 point margin)
2008 W 12 – 6 (6 point margin)
2009 W 31 – 3
2010 W 31 – 18
2011 W 19 – 15 (4 point margin)
2012 W 34 – 9
2013 W 46 – 14
In 6 of those Glenwood wins a last minute try would either have drawn or won it for DHS.
vs College, of the 12 wins for College, 3 were a margin of 10 or less, with a 2 and 4 pointer in there. School raise themselves for those derbies and are more competitive than you think.
But it doesn’t matter, I have a son at College, I know how the boys feel about the matches, so it’s a moot point. When were you last at College to watch a DHS match?
One thing I do agree with Greenwood is in watching a lot of schoolboy rugby around the Eastern Cape over the last 10 years I have found a lot of negative chatter from the Afrikaans boys on the field and most of this stems from there parents on the side lines which is extremely embrassing.
Just on Tuesday I went to watch a under 13A game in were the parents from the Afrikaans school were openly using the ‘K’ word which is shocking. I myself who has one English parent and one Afrikaans parent do want any part of that.
@Woltrui: @Deon Pitzer: I do think the issue of manners with boys is about the ethos of the school and not that the boys are English or Afrikaans.
Example I will give you is when we use to play rugby against Queens in the early 80’s I always found there manners were excellent and at that stage you could have said they were a 99 percent English school, last year I was at Grey PE when Queens were playing there and there manners were still just as excellent and they are now 70 percent Xhosa so that show’s me it has nothing to do with race but everything to do with the school.
@Tigger: just being objective and looking at the facts! Doesn’t seem to be a very competitive fixture these days.
I think Bishops vs Sacs is going to be close if rain continues. Why do I say this? Well, firstly, Bishops will still try run the ball in wet conditions and, secondly, in Graeme Wepener, Sacs have a very astute coach who will know how to take advantage of this. Graeme knows Bishops rugby well.
@CapeMan: Please don’t get me wrong, any game vs Sacs IS a derby. A BIG one at that. But Bishops have always had 2 TRADITIONAL derbies. One is Rondebosch and the other is St Andrews as they are our brother school.
It’s kind of like Sacs vs Wynberg being a more traditional derby game for you guys than Sacs vs Bishops.
Hope that makes sense?
@star: It’s all a function of no of refs to no of games. In the Midlands, the ratio is favourable and the guys are also normally bok to do 2 and sometimes 3 games a day. Durban – the ratio is completely out of whack – and there are only a few guys who can do multiple games. Normally it’s make or break – with some of the Tier 2 schools having to ref their own U14A sides on very busy weekends. I’m not sure about p country – but if they are appointing down to C/D team level it is obviously quite favourable.
Glenwood vs DHS (since 2000);
2000 D 13 – 13
2001 L 7 – 24
2002 W 20 – 6 & L 22 – 23
2003 L 0 – 23 & L 12 – 27
2004 W 17 – 12 & W 13 – 6
2005 W 31 – 16 & W 10 – 5
2006 L 21 – 28 & W 34 – 9
2007 W 13 – 6
2008 W 12 – 6
2009 W 31 – 3
2010 W 31 – 18
2011 W 19 – 15
2012 W 34 – 9
2013 W 46 – 14
2014 ?
So it’s been 8 years since a DHS victory over Glenwood. I think 10 years vs Westville….not sure about College…..whatever happens it’s a traditional fixture that Glenwood Old Boys respect and want in the fixtures list. A pity all 28 teams no longer get a game, only half do…
@star: Definitely not intended to be an AB War. Really nothing serious.
@Woltrui: Toemaar, was al op Loftus. Glo my, dis nie so anders op Nuweland nie.
@GreenBlooded: No problem.
@Roger: I hear there are some injuries … Wildekawer again
some positional changes. Not sure how the recoveries are going, we will see what happens on the day.
@Gungets Tuft: no offence taken GT – there is a lid for every pot
if we all thought the same the world would be hellish boring
Good luck Saturday – it’s going to be a great day out – Reunion weekend – KES will be packed with old boys.
Is that monster number 13 of yours playing?
@ GB- Great. Now you have started the third Anglo Boer War.
As a matter of interest I noted that when Westville play PBHS that the Union provides referees from 1sts to 4ths and from A to C in the other age groups. My understanding in KZN is that it is only the A teams and 1sts and 2nds that have this commitment. Is this because we have fewer referees in our local Society to go around.
@Hilty: Most respectful and disciplined kids up north you’ll find at the English private schools like KES and Jeppe. Pretoria Boys High also fall into this category. Don’t know how the teachers do it but for us Afrikaans okes it is an eye opener. Every kid that walk past you take his hat of and greet you. Don’t know if the Afrikaans laaities is just more introverted but you’ll never find them greeting you at the schools.@Deon Pitzer: Rugby and Afrikaners is not always a good combo. Come visit some games up north Deon. The spectators is something to behold. Sometimes you can just shake your head in amazement
@Roger: Not me. I was daarso on Monday and Tuesday, and then Sunday evening till Wednesday this coming week. Its the dogs nuts man, nothing personal but I just don’t know why people stay in Chunnisbeg, other than the money, which smells of smoke anyway. {shrug … }
My lightie is up on Saturday, we have scheduled a good shower for him just this side of Van Reenens …
@Deon Pitzer: Wouldn’t call it racial profiling – just a counter argument to something raised by someone else. I guess I didn’t need to mention the schools as you point out……
@Jordaan: DHS beat College 29-7 in 2008. College beat them 40-14 in the return fixture. Lost twice to Glenwood that year as well as PBHS (2), Paul Roos, Affies …
But that is still the exception that proves the rule. Nothing to be gained from bashing other school mate, I can tell you that College looks forward to DHS because of the history, and because there is the Skonk Trophy (donated by DHS) to won on the derby. As an Old Boy, I value the fixture more than most.
@Jordaan: I think you are missing the point. As the saying goes “if you haven’t got anything positive to add to the conversation, rather say nothing at all!”
@GreenBlooded: I have never heard of Voortrekker and Gelofte before. Now I have. Its bad taste to name these schools, especially basing that on your capacity as referee. Racial profiling indeed.
@GreenBlooded: I get your point.
@rbw1863: @Gungetstuft – any of you fellas making the trek thru’ to the Big Smoke this weekend – should be a cracking affair!
@Hilty: Yes and No! Glenwood boys are without doubt the most respectful you will find – but that has been the case for many years before the “Afrikaans” influence started. I attribute this to a strong sense of pride and discipline enforced by the likes of Mr Koos Basson and Mike Maher in the old days and more recently by the likes of Tony Pinheiro and TK himself. The boys are kept on a very straight track. TK has a system of fining parents who misbehave on the sidelines – which is why you will seldom hear abuse from Glenwood parents at sports matches and why there is never alcohol on the stands there.
Although what you say about Afrikaans kids may have been true in years gone by, it is certainly not the case anymore. In my experience as a referee I will tell you without doubt that the discipline and respect for authority at Afrikaans schools is FAR worse than the average English medium school. Often this stems from a bad example set by coaches and parents on the sidelines. Voortrekker springs foremost to mind as does Werda and to a far less extent – Gelofte.
@Lindenpa: Ek stem saam met omtrent alles wat jy sê, maar tog dink ek vir die gemiddelde persoon is dit bietjie makliker as hy/sy ‘n paar jaar skoolgaan in die taal waarin hy/sy tersiêre onderrig ontvang, ongeag watter taal/tale betrokke is. Dis irrelevant of dit Afrikaans/Engels of enige ander tale is. Navorsing het getoon (seker nie bewys) dat kinders wat op primêre skool onderrig ontvang in hul moedertaal, aanvanklik sukkel om hul volle potensiaal te bereik in ‘n sekondêre skool van ‘n ander taal. Ek is beslis ‘n leek op hierdie gebied, maar ek neem aan die aanpassing van hoërskool na universiteit sal vir di gemiddelde persoon dieselfde wees. In KZN jet hulle geen Afrikaans voertaal universiteite nie, so…
Beet, the Helpmekaar – Ben Vorster game is not part of the Beeld trophy. I think it is a friendly.
Helpmekaar is in an interesting situation in the Beeld trophy: Because of some big wins that some of their teams have achieved over some of their rivals in the large schools section of the Lions’ region (before Linden and Rnabdurg moved up to large schools), the schools have agreed to let Helpmekaar go through to the play-offs at the end of the season as if their teams have finished on top of the table. This means that they do not play any of the league games during the season but only play in the Lions’ semi-finals against the team that finished 3rd on the log (4th if Helpies is also taken into account) and then obviously in the final if they go through.
For the rest of the season they only play friendlies.
The story about Afrikaans kids going to English schools to assist with their tertiary studies in English, is correct. However, this is due to the wrong perception that learners from Afrikaans medium schools are at a disadvantage when studying in English. Nothing can be further from the truth.
A huge proportion of kids who matriculated at Linden study at ‘English’ universities and are doing very well. My son did his course at Maties in English last year and obtained 8 distinctions. He has now transferred to UCT and is doing very well academically. There are various other examples also.
I for one do not buy into the idea of Afrikaans kids attending English schools, and in Johannesburg the Afrikaans schools are all doing their best to do away with this perception. It has resulted in most Afrikaans secondary schools to show a growth in numbers in the last about 5 years, especially in the northern suburbs where Linden, Randburg and Helpmekaar are situated.
Let’s look at the facts here before we get all emotional, does anyone have the DHS 1st XV results over the last 10 years over College, Westville, Glenwood, Michaelhouse and Kearsney? Let’s be objective and look at the facts guys!
We would all love DHS to be a powerhouse again, but, the reality is it’s just not going to happen. Give Clifton another 5 – 10 years and they’ll be dominating that side of the Berea.
@CapeMan: When was the first game between SACS and Bishops?
@Tigger: DHS can never be underestimated with the amount of history they have behind them. Everyone goes through bad spells. DHS as a powerhouse is important to the KZN SBR scene and honoring their fixture is vital in getting them back up to top 5 material. Please ignore those unconstructive comments, they are those of a very small minority at College I can assure you.
@Woltrui: My opinion,the most disciplined and respectful boys(perhaps not on the rugby field) that you will find at a Dbn school are those of GW and I put that down to the Afrikaans influence that they have there.
@Jordaan: Of course, this is the type of comment we have come to expect from Jordaan – it does nothing for anybody except belittle a team that is going through tough times. I know that every boy from DHS will give their best and judging by the results of some of their teams, there will be some close encounters out there. Its always a special day when Glenwood plays DHS, just as it is with College, because of the history of the rivalry over many years, and, because of the close proximity of the schools. Good luck to all involved and hope that there are no serious injuries!
@beet: Depend on the region. I had friends who took their kids out of the “model C” English school in Nelspruit and took them to Nellies. Better discipline the reason.
@Deon Pitzer: Ask me, I know. They would rather try and understand Afrikaans, than English( which they probably know) We had a little verse in English, which was more or less like this: ” Sorry, Im NOT British- Im SAfrican, but do you speak Eglish?” Invariably the response was”Oui Mesieur”. And that was after he showed no willingness to understand initially. My son, who IS British, now does the same
@BOG: I agree BOG, the threat is there, and I believe that undergraduates should study in their mother tongue. Therefore the government must make a real effort to develop indigenous languages, such as isiZulu etc as academic languages. Not doing so is a great opportunity missed. Students capable of post graduate studies would not have trouble with at least written English. RE, the French: I work in Belgium more or less once a year. As you know, this country is divided into different language zones, Flemish vs French. There is a definite trend among Flemish people not to teach their children French as a second language any longer, but English. So, while most young people there are able to speak “Flemish Dutch” and English, less and less care to learn French nowadays. The French, well, they speak only French, and I often speak Kaaps to them when I get frustrated.
@Beet: Northwest in Potch and Maties!
@BOG: Was waiting for that.I cant remember exactly,ONLY 10 to 15 points I think.
@Hilty: What was the score?
@Grasshopper: Thanks for the stats.
Jan Serfontein and the one wing will remember the game well as they also left the field that day after being munched by Dean.
Grassy it didnt work out for him at the bulls,I saw him last year at GW and he was helping out with a bit of coaching in the Jnr ranks.
I did hear that he was playing for UKzn this year but not 100% sure of that.
@Hilty:
First Played in 1922, Played – 132, Glenwood Won – 53, Glenwood Lost – 68, Draws – 11, % Win – 40%, Glenwood Biggest win – 46-14 (2013), Glenwood Biggest Loss 0-38 (1948)
@Hilty: Yep, sorry you are right it was Dean ‘lem’ Moolman. I wonder what happened to him at the Bulls. I remember the Grey Bloem guys saying he was the hardest tackler they had faced all season and should have got man of the match in Bloem. He tackle the SA Schools Bloem loosie in half……very unique derby, not as old as the Midlands but unique..
@Deon Pitzer: My biokineticist once studied at Free State University andtold me all lectures are in English although students could write examines in Afr if they preferred (when she was a student there).
So I would be interested to know which universities in SA still have Afrikaans lectures and if students can still write papers in Afrikaans
@Grasshopper: Sorry just read your last post.No it was Dean as I can remember and still went on to tackel the C… out of GCB that year.
If im not mistaken I think some of those hits are still on YouTube.
@Grasshopper: The rivalry between the two schools is something I think few other schools experience.My only concern is that some of the boys take it a little to far, like Dean Moolman being shot in the eye with a paintball gun a couple of years ago.
@Deon Pitzer: Are there still universities in SA where Afrikaans, as a medium of instruction, is not under threat? Listening to Botman, even Jansen, the answer is no. It has always been convenient to have a sound knowledge of English- as far back as I can remember, even for under graduate studies, because so many text books were English anyway. But the reality is that English is a socalled international language- just dont tell the French that. More and more young people are leaving SA, and studying in English, is an obvious thing to do.
@BoishaaiPa: Yes, each school has memorial bell that grade 8 ring when they arrive and matrics ring when they leave. It’s also rung on Armistace and Poppy days etc. Very very sacred bells to both schools and the aim is for a group of boys and/or Old boys to try and ring the oppositions schools bell on the Friday night through force…….it’s got quite ugly some years with drunken Old Boys destroying property etc. I think the schools even have cops now waiting on the Friday night. A couple of years ago Carel Swart got shot in the eye by a DHS boy with a pellet gun……it’s usually just a bit of fun but can get heated!
@Grasshopper: What come again?..You ringing each others bells?…Yoh!
@Greenwood: Agreed, a derby always has surprises. In 96 Glenwood was expected to get pumped by 40 or more at DHS but in fact Glenwood won with probably our weakest team in a century…….we only won about 3 games that year out of 19. Something special about trying to ring each others bells on Friday night, hanging carrots from the rugby poles, taunting outside the Boarding Establishments and just the general hoo ha before the game……Glenwood still have a long way to get parity on the overall record vs DHS….
@umbiloburger: Thanks, its always good to hear positive comments. I believe however that this weekend’s game against Wynberg will be a bridge to far for Boishaai. They just came back from a 6 games in 10 days tour and with injuries, fatigue etc, I dont see how they will manage any decent form against a top outfit like the Wynberg 2014 team. I will be there to support them on Saturday, but I dont expect to much and I know they will give it their all.
Hopper , Umbiloburger , Dixons
I think the flies might surprise Glenwood , don’t think they will beat us but the score may be closer than we think – School has been blowing hot & cold & barring the scores though I’ll be there for that special vibe – I know derbies throughout SA are special days but there’s something extra special about the Flies and the Hoppers ……………..
@beet: That statement is only correct in provinces like KZN where there is no University instructing in Afrikaans, at least at undergraduate level. Even at undergraduate level, many text books are from a non SA origin, and therefore in English. The further a student advances, the more research based courses become. The more research based a course is, the more sources one must quote and more international scholarly publications must be included as references to enhance credibility. If one wants to make your research available to more peers etc. , it will be better to do so in English, and peer review is very important in academic research. So, the trend you refer to won’t occur in e.g. the Western Cape, FS and Gauteng until local University policy changes.Afrikaans schools’ grade 12 results speak for itself, every year.
@Queenian:
The Kudu has a mountain to climb this weekend. But stranger things have happened. This should toughen your boys up for next weekend in King.
@CapeMan: I also thought the Bishops-SACS-Rondebosch-Wynberg games were all derbies.
@Balikibaba: I have always considered Bishops a Derby game so Im really surprised that you dont as most of the bishops old boys I know consider us a derby game. Bishops-SACS was the first rugby game in SA and we play you guys twice a year. If thats not a derby I dont know what is. I think you guys will beat us quite convincingly. It could be bad but I hope not. @Toffee: Wynberg are the number 1 side in the southern suburbs so far. You guys are undefeated and pose a physical threat to Bishops which Glenwood did to Bishops. Wynberg have a very good side but i guess you want the underdog tag which I think Bishops should have when they play you guys
@Dixon’s: This fixture is such a non-event and anticlimax these days, not sure what there is to get excited about. DHS are a full blown Tier 2 school these days, they have not beaten a top 5 school in KZN for over 10 years. I get the traditional, but, it’s time to face up to the reality. DHS are being given far too much credit for a very mediocre rugby school, let’s be honest!
@umbiloburger: That’s actually a very interesting point there, the one about Afrikaans first language boys attending an English first language school:
“several Afrikaans boys, most of whom have opted for English tuition to assist them in their varsity studies.”
@Grasshopper: These matches are always tough. Rankings and reputation mean nothing in these games. I think the junior A team games are going to be really entertaining. GW have just come off tough matches at Wilderklawer and need to keep the momentum going. I think that the 1st team, provided GW are at full strength, should be too strong for the other place. I believe the game is scheduled for 2pm kickoff as the other place can only field 12 teams, so I suggest an earlier start with a “Dudas Special Tramazini” for lunch from the up & under.
@BoishaaiPa: Paarl Boys is a magnificent school. The boys are extremely well mannered and they have an outstanding sense of pride for their school, very similar to that of Maritzburg college and SACS. I am encouraged by the number of Afrikaans speaking boys that are starting to attend so called English schools. Glenwood for one has now enrolled several Afrikaans boys, most of whom have opted for English tuition to assist them in their varsity studies.
@Queenian: 35% of Paul Roos pupils are english speaking.
@Queenian: 21 out of 100 odd is 20%…that is about the avg for the school…20/80. Not many of them make the rugby teams, because of the numbers but they are usually the stalwarts of hockey teams etc. At least the ratio is representative of the school numbers
..not like some pure English medium schools I know with more Afrikaans laaities in there rugby teams than even us!
@tandemfitarborsurculus: I think there are now 2 at Boshaai and 1 at Paul Roos as the one left Paul Roos to go to Boshaai.
A friend of mine has a kid at Paarl Boys High in Grade 9 and he says there about 21 English speaking kids in his grade. Not sure about the rest.
@GCollege86: Ye agree with you QC has some useful players just don’t seem to be playing as a team. I think Grey biggest problem is they might be over confident.
@Andre T: do you know how many english speaking scholars are at Paarl Boys High and Paul Rose GYmnasium ?
@Playa: Dont know why the fixture was cancelled. Selborne 4ths were going to play their 1sts. Now the Selb 2nds are playing the Selb 3rds and lower teams Wesbank and George Randell. I here the 1sts might play a sevens game against each other.
@Queenian: Last week I had another look at the dvd of the Selb vs QC game. I don’t think the score was a true reflection of the game. QC has very good individuals but are battling to play as a team. In some of the phases they looked impressive but couldn’t finish off and Selb capitalized on the mistakes. I think the derby in July will be much closer.
If QC can keep the Grey pack under control and get Jerry into the game, the score might be closer than we think. I do think that Grey is an impressive team and has a point to prove coming from a 2 game loss at Wildeklawer.
@Playa: Wow Dale got a tough game this weekend are they going to give all there stars a brake.
@Playa: Queens are hoping for a 20 point handicap when they play Grey PE on Saturday just to even things up a bit.
Although I do believe in miracles maybe Grey should remember a certain game about 15 years ago in PE when Grey went into that game with 7 wins from 7 games and Queens 1 win from 6 games and QC won.
If ever a Kudu needed to cause a accident now is the time.
( But I doubt it Grey to win by at least 30 points )
@Playa: Ye Selborne must be avoiding De Vos after the hard game they had against Queens.
Durbans oldest derby on Saturday, Hoppers vs Flies! I would rather be a Grasshopper than go to Durban High! Swat the fly! Going to be interesting at A team level, good luck boys. At 1st team level we have a long way to get to parity on wins. May this derby thrive!
Good news is that SACS vs Bishops will be broadcast live on DSTV 319 and on 201 Openview HD.
We no longer need to rely on Premier Interschools for live SBR. Provisional live games below:
Sat 10 May SACS v Bishops
Sat 17 May Paul Roos v Wynberg
Sat 24 May Waterkloof v Helpmekaar
Sat 24 May Garsfontein v Menlopark
Sat 31 May Kearsney v St Stithians
Sat 07 June DHS v Kearsney
Sat 21 June Paarl Gim v Boland Landbou
Sat 26 July Paarl Boys High v Bishops
Sat 02 Aug Selborne v Queen’s College
Sat 16 Aug Paul Roos v Boland Landbou
Sat 23 Aug Maritzburg College 7s
Sat 30 Aug SACS v Wynberg
my favourite Saturday of the year… Glenwood v DHS, Grasshoppers v The Horseflies. Cannot wait!!!
Eldo 17 – 13 Centurion final score
Tuks finaal- Sterkte EG Jansen. Jul kan dit doen maar moet nie HTS Middelburg onderskat nie. Dit gaan ‘n ander span wees as die 1ste ontmoeting. Speel jul game, bly gefokus en julle kan die knoop deurhaak. Dit gaan hard wees, jul kan dit doen!!
@GCollege86: Is Selborne scared?
@Ploegskaar: Dit wat jy nou noem, maak dit nog meer verdag. “Only time will tell”
@Kosie:
Jy het my heeltemal verwar.
Jy meld die volgende:
“Centurion speel teen Eldoraigne VIR al die A spanne en eerste span”. Nou hoekom speel hulle VIR al die A-spanne? Is die A-spanne die toeskouers?
Of speel hulle A-spanne teen mekaar.
@Ploegskaar: Waar kan mens die lys sien van die spelers wat deur is?
@beet: All games between Selborne and De Vos Malan cancelled. Lower teams (4ths – 7ths and C’s and D’s) will be playning Wesbank High and George Randall.
@Tierklou: Ek dink weer die Noordelike Voorstede het mooi verteenwoordiging hierdie jaar met 14 spelers wat deur is na die volgende rondtes. Bellville en Kasselsvlei het elk 3 spelers daar, Stellenberg 2 en Brackenfell, Strand, De Kuilen, HHH, Excelsior en Tygerberg elk 1. Is jou besware nou oor die streek, of jou skool wat te na gekom word?
@Ploegskaar: Die probleem is dat hierdie dinge (keuses) altyd te laat aangespreek word.
Die slang bly in die gras en die wat dit moet uitroei kyk anderkant toe.
Dit gaan my verstand te bowe dat ‘n skool soos Tygerberg (tans nr 12 op die SA ranking) nie een speler het wat verder as die 1ste rondte gegaan het in die proewe nie, behalwe 1 PD speler.
Die vlg 2 Saterdae gaan baie interresant wees.
@ROOIBUL: Die wedstryd begin 14:30
@Speartackle: Lets cut the bull ask for your preferred language. Finget tale.
HTS Daniel Pienaar vs Brandwag it is being played on Daniel Pienaar’s 119th founders weekend and FNB classic.
@kosie: Dis nog steeds onverstaanbaar. Probeer babataal.
@Speartackle: Kom ek probeer. Daar blyk ‘n verwarring te wees aangaande die Centurion, Eldoraigne en Waterkloof wedstryde van vandag. Centurion speel teen Eldoraigne vir al die A spanne en eerste span. Die Centurion B – E spanne speel teen Waterkloof B – E spanne by Waterkloof. Speartackle, would I pass the Afrikaans test?
@kosie: Can you please explain that in afrikaans as well?
@beet: There seems to be a misunderstanding regarding the Centurion Eldoraigne and Waterkloof games of today. Centurion are playing Eldoraigne at Centurion for all the A teams and firsts. The Centurion B – E teams are playing Waterkloof B – E teams at Waterkloof
@Andre T: Maybe if you have a look at the numbers it will give you an indication…In the last 5 years a total of 80 games were played between the Wineland schools and their Southern Subs counterparts. Winelands won 65, lost 11 and drew 4. That is a 82% winning ratio. So where do you think on average the better players are situated?..There are brilliant individuals everywhere and they will be picked.
I smell a few afrikaans skunks
Can’t understand why the Cape Town schools always suffer when CW teams are picked. 40 players from the afrikaans Boland schools plus say another 16 minimum from Booishaai makes it 56 from 4 afrikaans schools compared to 18 from the CT schools.
The smell of this rotten rat gets more and more stinkier
Maybe a bit early to draw conclusions on form teams and unfair selections, we will be able to make a fairer assessment in a few weeks’ time, after a couple of Country/Town games have been played. Boishaai players must still be added to the WP trial squads in any event.
Kan iemand my se wats die tyd van die Tuks finals Saterdag- HTS EG
It’s a joke that Wynberg only have 4 players in the final trials. They’re by far the in form team in the Greater Cape Town area if not the whole WP.
And unbeaten
I smell a lot of rats………boetie boetie rats.
@Toffee: And Douw Kruggman
A massive win by Bishops. Looking at the team I think they will be Southern Suburbs no 1 this year with Wynberg a close 2nd. The Bishops team seems to be growing in confidence which makes them more dangerous.
I just saw the names for the final WP Craven week trials for Monday and they continue to reflect a large proportion of Boland players?
Paarl Boys were not included for obvious reasons. Paul Roos have 17 players in the mix, Paarl Gym 15, Boland Landbou 8, Bishops 7, Sacs 4, Wynberg 4 and Rondebosch 3. Nice to see Jan Van Riebeck contribute 4 players as well. They seem to be on the up and it would be great if they could produce players of the callible of De Villiers Visser again.
@kosie: Jys heeltemaal reg. Ek is uniek en nie met tweederangse kwaliteit tevrede nie.
Die rugbypubliek dring aan op waarde vir geld.
@Andre T: As die Tuks reeks, die KES College, Kloof Menlo, Affies Grey en PBHS games nie ordentlike games is nie beweeg jy duidelik in ‘n ander dimensie as die res van ons aardlinge!
@kosie: Tx… gaan kyk of ek my draaie kry om dit te maak
Is daar nie enige ordentlike games die naweek nie?
@Rugbyman: Die games is almal by Centurion en eerstes begin 19:00 onder ligte. Centurion se ligte is baie goed so en dink hulle sal rugby speel eerder as wegkruipertjie
@Balikibaba: Yeslike! College given a rugby lesson there
@kosie: ek verwys na die centurion eldo game…
@kosie: weet jy dalk waar die games is en hoe laat die 1stes speel?
@OudAffie: @Wyvern: 13:00- Tweedes / Cherries; 14:15 – Eerstes / Firsts
(According to http://www.gc.co.za )
@Wyvern, the 1ste teams will problebly play at 13:30 as usualy at Affies, althouht the official program is not yet released.
Final score is 39 -15 to Bishops. St Andrews score in last movement of game.
@Playa: Sorry, man. Went out for a meeting. Kicked off at 4.30. Bishops up 39-8 with one minute left. 7 tries to Bishops.
with one minute remaining Bishops are up 39 – 8. They have scored 7 tries
@rbw1863: 1896 I think
When was the first Bishops vs St Andrews?
@tzavosky: Thanks will do,
@OudAffie: Do you by any chance know what time kick off is for Affies/Grey this sat?
Beet, you may add Ben Vorster vs Helpmekaar in Tzaneen on Saturday. A bit of history between these two, so I wonder if Knowthegame will attend!
Groot interskole tussen Affies en Grey College die naweek, rugby, hokkie, skaak, landloop en die kore wat vrydag alles afskop. Dis die grootste interskole vir Affies in terme van leerders wat deelneem(boys high net rugby en hokkie) en hoog tyd dat die manne van Pretoria bietjie Affie Guts wys. Die O/15A en O/16A het elkeen nog net 1 wedstryd verloor en die O/14A 2, dit gaan ‘n groot naweek wees tussen hierdie groot Rugby Skole. Kan nie wag nie!!!
@beet: They should as basically the same team from Grens beat them last year. But you know the boere they forget everyone else and will try and kill each other
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@Balikibaba: What time is kick off? Chilly weather today, just hope he rain stays away so we can see some running rugby
@beet: Beet, Selborne’s 3rds will be playing De Vos Malan 1st. Selborne 1st’s and 2nds will not be playing this weekend.
@jakes: Moet wees MenloPark vs Waterkloof het ons tye al beskikbaar.
Thanks Beet. I see there are some maSsive games in Pretoria. Tuks series finals, Grey College vs Affies and Menlopark vs Waterkloof. Pity one can not watch them all
@jakes: Answer from a Klofies official re: Klofies vs Centurion
It is only the B-E teams and they will play tomorrow here at Waterkloof.
@ebie: Thanks Ebie and welcome.
I suspect Grens will be too strong for Hangklip.
@jakes: I’ve asked Klofies for assistance here this morning.
Is the Waterkloof- Kempton Park game correct? I was not aware that they are playing.
Hi Beet
Another fixture for this Saturday is Hangklip vs Grens at Grens.
@Deon Pitzer: Thanks Deon. yes, Bishops Sacs is oldest game, but oldest Derby game is Bishops St Andrews. Bishops have 2 derby games. Vs Rondebosch and vs St Andrews
@Andre T: Ag hel hoop net nie julle girls lyk soos julle koeie nie. Geen wonder jy het die pad gevat Klerksdorp toe nie.
Hope Bishops can pull of a good win today.
@Balikibaba: Bishops by 20. Hoop net Bishops is nie te op hulle gemak na die Hugenote wedstryd nie. I always thought Bishops/SACS was the oldest SBR clash in SA!? Good luck.
@Andre T: South Eastern Orange Free State Invitational Cup??????? Is dit SEOFSIC??? Voorspoed Affies met julle groot game Saterdag. Soos altyd as die Wynland spanne nie speel nie, sal ek vir GCB cheer, maar ek hoop julle bou voort op wat julle reggekry het na die PG wedstryd.
BIG derby game this afternoon. In fact I think it is the oldest in the country. Bishops vs St Andrews on the Piley Rees. Any predictions?
@beet: The Vrede vs Memel game is on Wednesday for the SEOFSIC Shield
Beet, the Alberton – Bastion and Linden – Riebeeckrand games are also part of the Beeld trophy. These are the first games in the Golden Lions big schools league.
I think the Linden – Riebeeckrand game is on Friday, but I will make sure and let you know.
Thanks
Beet, Centurion are playing Eldoraigne on Tuesday 6 May as part of the Beeld trofee.