EG Jansen assists police to arrest 2 students for possession of banned substances

Article for Sport24: http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/South-Africa/Schoolboys-arrested-for-steroids-20150204

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On Thursday morning of 25 January 2015 a 17-year-old schoolboy was spotted at a shopping centre across the road from EG Jansen entering a transaction with another individual. This was seen by a parent who reported it to the school.

The school immediately called SAPS who checked the surveillance cameras and traced the schoolboy back to the place of the transaction. During that time the schoolboy had returned to the school yard and given some of the steroids to another 16-year-old schoolboy. Both were then caught in possession of steroids by the police. They were arrested and appeared in court on Friday where the judge decided to sentence them to 30 sessions of counseling with the warning that if they did not pitch up for those sessions they will be charged criminally.

The school also suspended them awaiting a hearing next week where expulsion is a possible outcome.

The 17-year-old boy is not a 1st XV or A-team sportsman at the school and the 16-year-old doesn’t partake in any school sport at all.

EG follows up with drug tests for sportsmen

Following this event, on Friday 26 January, EG Jansen made an urgent decision to test the school’s entire 1st XV rugby team along with other first teams for banned substances. The first 15 boys were tested on Monday. EG are doing another round next Monday with the next group and from thereon on every Monday till all players have been tested. EG are awaiting the first batch of test results and once received back the school will do a full statement and release of the results. The costs of the first 30 tests is R178 000.

Conclusion

EG Jansen appears to have done the right thing and it looks as if they continue to do all that is possible to address this matter appropriately. The heartache for them or any other school that finds themselves in the same position is that the general public still has a tendency to characterise an entire school based on the actions of one or two individuals which can do a school immense harm.

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103 Comments

  1. avatar
    #103 Vleis

    Talking about banned substances, I received the following recently:

    Random Testing for Performance-Enhancement Drugs

    We, the under-mentioned, wish to express our intention to actively challenge the prevalent use of performance-enhancement drugs and supplements amongst teenage sportsmen.

    Hence, we have collectively invited the South African Institute for Drug Free Sport (SAIDS) to conduct random tests at no fewer than ten winter sports fixtures between our schools in the 2015 season.

    We believe that inter-school sport should be free of drugs and supplements of all kinds and invite other schools to implement random testing at fixtures, too.

    Dr P Edwards (Afrikaans Seuns Hoerskool), Mr J Connell (CBC, Boksburg), Mr D Lovatt (King Edward VII School), Mr A Dempsey (Jeppe Boys’ High School), Mr R Pillay (Parktown Boys’ High School), Mr T Reeler (Pretoria Boys’ High School), Mr T Hamilton (St Alban’s College), Mr A Oosthuysen (St Benedict’s College), Mr M Thiel (St David’s Marist, Inanda), Mr P Edey (St John’s College) and Mr D Knowles (St Stithians Boys’ College).

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    19 February, 2015 at 15:51
  2. avatar
    #102 kosie

    @valke: Jy is so reg. Dit het nou gebeur so kom ons gaan maar aan met die lewe.

    Daar was ‘n volblad inligtings brojure in Die Beeld die Saterdag na die nuus gebreek het met baie insiggewende inligting oor wat alles moontlik mag gebeur met iemand wat steroiede gebruik. Dalk moet @beet dit vir ons as verwyssing opsit.

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    19 February, 2015 at 11:48
  3. avatar
    #101 valke

    En toe is alles stil, en almal gaan aan asof die probleem nou opgelos is.

    So word die ou probleempie mos maar hanteer in skole rugby.

    Arme seuns wat nie weet wat hulle doen nie, is al wie die gevolge sal dra so 7 – 10 jaar van nou af.

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    19 February, 2015 at 10:06
  4. avatar
    #100 BOG

    @Speartackle: Jy is ect. ect. Laat my dink aan die arbeidsprokureur wie betrokke was met n moeilike vakbond wat aanhoudend met onbenullighede heen en weer geskryf het. Uiteindelik se hy vir hulle iets soos : ” If you persist with these petty matters, you will leave me with no alternative, but to respond with two words, the first having a sexual connotation” Dit is vir my nou mooi diplomaties en ek glo hulle het sommer mooi verstaan.

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    6 February, 2015 at 18:48
  5. avatar
    #99 GreenBlooded

    @Speartackle:

    I think it’s time to publish the Top 10 Bad Boys list again…..

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    6 February, 2015 at 15:05
  6. avatar
    #98 Ploegskaar

    @Speartackle: Geen twyfel, jy is beslis een van die groepie melaatse tollenaars.

    ReplyReply
    6 February, 2015 at 13:50
  7. avatar
    #97 Speartackle

    @MikeSt: Is ek een van hulle?

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    6 February, 2015 at 13:15
  8. avatar
    #96 MikeSt

    @garyowen:

    I would like to portray this in a last message on this blog before spending my time on my kids and More conducive subjects in life.

    Rather than trying to convince argue or be irritated by the vagueness of some members which clearly has one agenda definitely not building relationships, friendships though the game of rugby (a game i have played and been involved in for 44 years).

    I have and will never act in an official capacity and did not make 1 unfounded statement unless you as the expert can elaborate more on that and i will certainly correct whatever I have said then.

    Front-runners they are certainly not,

    PR definitely not more like reactions out of force due to media leaks. (stated in an unofficial capacity as you appears to be more of an expert i would be)

    What happened to these poor 2 boys I cannot ever approve of or agree with and I have personally tried to assist one of them in my personal capacity and will do as they were unfortunate victims of a much bigger picture of what is really going on in schools rugby and even professional rugby. (seeing you an expert I trust you are aware of this)

    My heart goes out to any person that has to go through such an ordeal irrespective of the rights and wrongs.

    One thing they do have is PASSION for their kids either being academically or sports wise. Maybe you should pay them a visit and live the passion, commitment and effort they are putting in as a small school.

    So Sir you can knock me for all you want this drive and passion I have will never be dampened……… specifically not by YOU……………

    I am interacting on a social forum same as anybody around here for mostly my enjoyment (even though not feeling like it sometimes when people such as yourself try and attack individuals and portray negativity surround something that lies close to my heart) and making a attempt to contribute and have a laugh from time to time and the views I portray on here is my PERSONAL views not that of any organization or institution.

    As I have stated No one will dampen my PASSION, COMMITMENT ,DRIVE FOR THE GAME OF RUGBY with negative statements, insults or events. The only thing it will do is force me not to interact with people that’s clearly clueless deceitful and AGENDA drive (and yes i do know who you are)

    I can with pride say in 2 years on this blog I have never personally attack insult a any blogger up and until now.

    So with all due respect :lol: :lol: F$%*^(&&*)_ ff and that is stated disrespectful and actually decent vocabulary.

    To the rest of the people @Rugbyman: @BuffelsCM: @Djou: @valke: @kosie: Beet, Boishaai, etc etc I have met through this keep on with the positive building of rugby.

    I wish you all good luck……… apart from a few assholes………………

    Regards

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    6 February, 2015 at 12:59
  9. avatar
    #95 BoishaaiPa

    @Speartackle: Ja maar jy is een van daai ouens wat gereeld gemoer moet word sodat jy weer in lyn kan kom anders ruk julle handuit!…

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    6 February, 2015 at 12:52
  10. avatar
    #94 BuffelsCM

    I saw this “slogan” on somebody’s T-shirt this morning: “Losers make excuses, Winners make commitments”

    To make it applicable in this case I would venture to say that EG Jansen are winners, having made the commitment to act against the users of banned substances.

    @MikeSt: Hou vas aan daardie PASSIE Mike !!

    @Speartackle: Ek moet sê jy het die vermoë om ‘n man se dag op te helder :wink:

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    6 February, 2015 at 10:22
  11. avatar
    #93 Rugbyman

    @Speartackle: maar jy vat dit as n kompliment, nie ‘n insult nie… :mrgreen:

    ReplyReply
    6 February, 2015 at 10:10
  12. avatar
    #92 Speartackle

    @MikeSt: Onwaar……..jy wou my al gemoer het

    ReplyReply
    6 February, 2015 at 09:53
  13. avatar
    #91 Djou

    @garyowen: I hear you – but I still want to wait until we have all the facts and then draw conclusions.

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    6 February, 2015 at 04:36
  14. avatar
    #90 garyowen

    @mikeSt PS. Whether you test 63 players or the entire school, if not done though an independent body it counts for very little. Not meaning to sound condescending.

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    6 February, 2015 at 01:15
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    #89 garyowen

    @Djou I must apologize, I reread my post and I agree with you, I did use the words “seems” and ” supposed” a few times. A force of habit to try and make my point without coming across too bullish, but I do apologize if it may have been a bit misleading. Let me rephrase a couple of my comments then to clear up a few misconceptions on your behalf. Firstly I said it ” seems” a bit harsh how they treated the two boys involved, but I would gladly change the seems to “is”. Secondly I would gladly concede the “supposedly” tested the entire senior rugby group and change it to ” definitely” as it was stated as fact by @mikest earlier in this thread. Further I made the assumption that R5800 per test seems a bit pricy compared to R2500, but this is my own opinion and some people with a 2014 matric maths might differ with me, but I thought this might be self explanatory to the readers of this blog.

    I did categorically state a few times though that it was my OPINION that I smell a very smelly fish. That I am not fully sold on the sudden endevour by EG Jansen to be the front runner in the fight against banned substances. This might be read as mere speculation, but I am simply stating what many are thinking but might be struggling to put into words.

    @mikest I don’t doubt your passion for the school your son plays for, but making unfounded statements, as if you are the schools official spokesperson is actually doing more harm to your rugby program that any good. Let the boys play and leave the politics to the ANC and EFF.

    Regards

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    6 February, 2015 at 00:33
  16. avatar
    #88 Djou

    @garyowen: The word “seems” appears a lot in your reasoning. So you are speculating – at best. The sad part is that other bloggers read your speculation as facts. What about waiting a bit for all the facts – as MikeSt promised to provide – and then comment again? But this time based on the facts.

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    5 February, 2015 at 15:16
  17. avatar
    #87 Djou

    @MikeSt: Hoe gaan dit – met die ander dinge?
    EK dink wat EG hier doen is prysenswaardig.
    En alle skole gaan hieruit voordeel trek. Want die wat verbode middels gebruik en verkoop gaan skrik vang en baie versigtiger wees.
    Eintlik behoort EG ‘n fooi te vra vir elke kind wat deur die aksie afgeskrik is.

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    5 February, 2015 at 15:10
  18. avatar
    #86 Murrayfield

    @MikeSt: Ons kan maar seker ‘n grappie maak om die “heat” te verlig! Laat my dink toe ‘n seker skool, leerders by Vereeniging Gimnasium gaan optel het. en die koshuis CCTV hulle “gesnap” het en dit op die Beeld se voorblad was!!

    Dalk is hierdie ‘n oplossing! HET JULLE GEWEET DAT ENIGE SKOOL VERNIET BY SAIDS ( SOUTH AFRICA INSTITUTE FOR DRUG FREE SPORT) KAN AANSLUIT. GAAN KYK MAAR OP HULLE WEBSITE VIR INLIGTING.

    SAIDS KOM DAN EN GEE VERNIET ‘N LESING VIR DIE RUGBYSPELERS. DAN TOETS DIE SAIDS VERNIET 12 SPELERS……… ” FOR FREE !!!!!” ‘n SPARING VAN
    R 178 000.00!!!!!! ( Slim vang sy baas!!)

    DAAR IS ALREEDS ‘N KLOMP RUGBYSKOLE WAT AANGESLUIT HET!

    Well done garyowen!!!

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    5 February, 2015 at 13:33
  19. avatar
    #85 Grasshopper

    @MikeSt: Boet it’s not an attack on EG, it is a problem in nearly all schools sport. Drug cheats were caught at Kearsney and Glenwood last year. Others schools have them too, but manage things on the quiet. It is usually guys not involved in sport just trying to get big to either beat up other kids or look ‘hot’ for the chicks. Little do they know their nether regions are shrinking as their chests and biceps get bigger………I have been suspicious of quiet a few ‘kids’ recently, some even making SA schools….

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    5 February, 2015 at 10:38
  20. avatar
    #84 valke

    @kosie: Hi Kosie. Maak nie saak hoe jy na hiedie uitlating van jou kyk nie, dit bly ‘n wilde aanmerking. Heeltemal ongegrond en sonder enige meriete.

    “Ek dink EG doen die regte ding met die toetse. In 2011 was daar ook so ‘n storie met die O/15 span van daardie jaar en weet ek dat EG se O/15 span toe aan die Tuks reeks ontrek is agv ‘n baie klein minderheid seuns wat ‘n middel gebruik het.”

    Van die ouers in daai span is vriende van my, onder andere die seun wat geskors was vir 14 wedstryde. Sou ons dan kan aanneem dat hy dalk geskors was as gevolg van “‘n middel” soos jy dit stel ?

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    5 February, 2015 at 08:50
  21. avatar
    #83 umbiloburger

    @garyowen: Good points. The other issue that I find strange is that, according to the SA Schools Act, the school may not sanction a pupil if the matter has been handed over to the SAPS for processing. In other words if a pupil is caught with drugs on the school property, either the school has to deal with it through their processors or the SAPS, but they can’t have both.

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    5 February, 2015 at 06:27
  22. avatar
    #82 umbiloburger

    @Grasshopper: Apparently (chatted to the sharks smart doc) the testing has to be done in Europe or USA and your figures are very accurate. You will probably find that not all the samples were sent. Let’s hope that the SAPS extract info to arrest the sellers.

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    5 February, 2015 at 06:09
  23. avatar
    #81 kosie

    @valke: Ek het geen wilde aanmerkings gemaak nie. Die storie waarna ek verwys het het jy vir ons mooi uitgelig. Wat ek probeer se het was dat EG duidelik sensitief is vir enige negatiewe aksies. Ek ondersteun hulle en wens alle skole wil hulle paadjie volg.

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    5 February, 2015 at 05:58
  24. avatar
    #80 Grasshopper

    @garyowen: very good points, something fishy going on…

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    5 February, 2015 at 05:52
  25. avatar
    #79 garyowen

    I must be honest, I am somewhat bemused by what transpired at E G Jansen in the last two weeks. First of all, their reaction seems a bit harsh on the two boys involved, keeping in mind that they are supposedly not A level rugby players, I mean, getting the police involved and and exposing it to all media outlets interested . Don’t get me wrong, I strongly discourage any form of drug abuse especially at school, but could this not have been handled by the schools governing body and the schools drug protocol. It seems that these kids are being hanged out to dry and are merely used as scapegoats.

    EG Jansen has longed been accused of having some sort of magic water in their seniors bathrooms, that almost overnight turn medium built grade 10/11 s into bulging bohemoths. Now it seems to me that their powers that be are using this opportunity as a PR smoke screen.

    My concerns are the following:

    Their supposed response of testing the entire senior group seems odd to say the least. The amount they reported it cost also does not add up, R178000 to test 30 players at just over R 5800 a pop seems terribly pricy seeing as the most commonly used private banned substance test kits in SA costs R2500 a test, with discount for group tests.

    Secondly, why would you not get SAIDS ( South African institute of drug free sports) involved. They are the only recognized anti doping body in SA ( Acting under the auspice of the World Anti Doping Agency). They are responsible for testing at all senior provincial and international matches played in SA as well as all SARU youth weeks. And get this… If you request them to test your players, they do this free of any charge!!! They are a subsidiary of the dept of sports and recreation and are well funded.

    So my concerns are that schools claim to test their rugby players, but want to rather do it privately, so doing staying in control of who is “randomly” tested and what happens to a player that is tested positively, thus bypassing any regulatory body but boldly stating that they have a strong stance against cheating.

    Thus, I am strongly of the opinion that EG Jansen used this opportunity to hang these two young blokes out to dry and in the process ruining their lives, to get some of the heat of their backs.

    They are not fooling me!!!

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    4 February, 2015 at 21:47
  26. avatar
    #78 valke

    @kosie: ek wou al vroeer kommentaar lewer, maar wou eers seker maakvan my feite.

    Daar was geen soortgelyke voorval met die 2011 o/15 span nie.

    Een van hulle spelers het ‘n skorsing uitgedien agv dissipline. 14 wedstryde. Op appel is dit verminder na 11 wedstryde. Daar was verwarring oor wanneer hy weer kon speel in die o/15 jaar. ( dit het in o/14 gebeur ). Hy het in die Nupower teen Centurion weer begin speel. Dit was een wedstryd te vroeg.

    As gevolg hiervan het hulle hulle punte verloor en het laaste in hulle pool geeindig.

    Hierna het hulle uigespeel van 9-16. Hulle het 9de geeindig deur Florida op tuks te klop in die wedstryd vir 9 of 10.

    Wilde aantuigings wat darem deur jou gemaak word hierbo.

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    4 February, 2015 at 17:46
  27. avatar
    #77 Mike

    Well done EG Jansen. Top class.

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    4 February, 2015 at 16:54
  28. avatar
    #76 Speartackle

    @Djou: Dankie Djou…….jy is darem maar n slim kind

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    4 February, 2015 at 16:11
  29. avatar
    #75 Djou

    @Spear: Kliek net op die groen blokkie regs bo op die blad – NVaal fixtures!

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    4 February, 2015 at 16:08
  30. avatar
    #74 Speartackle

    Waar kan ek asb Menlopark se bepalingslys vir 2015 sien?@Murrayfield: Kan jy dalk help asb……………ek sit nou nog hier in Boksburg………ek voel al hoe al my spiere begin swel………….selfs die plesierspier

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    4 February, 2015 at 15:43
  31. avatar
    #73 Rugger fan

    Coming in late to this conversation.

    Two comments:

    1) Well done to the leadership of EG Jansen – you guys have the balls to make the tough calls. Well done.

    2) Seems to echo a few studies and talks I’ve heard – the drug users are not the serious sportsmen looking for performance – it’s either peripheral sportsmen with pressure to perform (from parents?? 8-O ) or image related – and worried about looking good for the chicks.

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    4 February, 2015 at 15:28
  32. avatar
    #72 valke

    @Murrayfield: Ek ondersteun ‘n paar skole aan die Oos Rand, waarvan EG een is. Om die waarheid te se, hulle is beslis bo aan my lys.

    Daarom dink ek nie hierdie is die regte platform om my ongelukkigheid uit te spreek nie. Ja, almal is nie getoets nie.

    Ek voel hulle het nou die geleenthied om die probleem vir eens en vir altyd op te los, maar kan nie sien dat dit gaan gebeur nie.

    Soos Kosie se, as jy meer doen, kan jy ‘n beter prys beding. Hoekom in sessies toets ? Dit kos tog seker meer om die ouens elke Maandag daar te kry.

    Mike, moet asb. nie my kommentaar in ‘n negatiewe lig sien nie. Die kans is hier, maak huis skoon as dit moet.

    En glo my, EG is beslis nie bo aan die lys van sondebokke nie. Nie eers in die Valke streek nie.

    Een ding waaroor ek heeltemal bly is, is Mnr. de Beer se houding ten opsigte hiervan.

    Mike, hou hom by EG. Hy kan daai skool tot groot hoogtes neem.

    Sterkte vir die seisoen.

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    4 February, 2015 at 15:18
  33. avatar
    #71 GreenBlooded

    @Speartackle:

    You forgot Zol, Crystal Meth, Ecstacy and Cocaine.

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    4 February, 2015 at 15:12
  34. avatar
    #70 upcountry

    @Speartackle: Ai tog hoe vinnig verander dinge met die tye … in my dae het ons dit n proefsteek genoem ??? :-P :-P

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:43
  35. avatar
    #69 GreenBlooded

    @Grasshopper:

    I was in his class on the day he arrived with the hearing aids in both ears and declared that he was now “in stereo”.

    @BOG:

    I thought the Dutchies were going to Northwood? I think you are getting your wood mixed up.

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:43
  36. avatar
    #68 BOG

    @Grasshopper: I did not say you must.@GreenBlooded: If you were at GW in recent years, you would have been fluent in Dutch and Xhosa

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:39
  37. avatar
    #67 Grasshopper

    @GreenBlooded: hahahah, old Hutch must be like 70 by now…..how can he still be teaching. Lekker ou toppie always harping on about his days as a Dale Boarder…

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:37
  38. avatar
    #66 GreenBlooded

    @Speartackle:

    I think me and ou Hopper can’t understand Afrikaans so lekker cos the onnie at Glenwood was (still is) a deaf oke.

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:35
  39. avatar
    #65 Grasshopper

    @BOG: I’m not running away from my land of birth over electricity issues, sorry that is for bangbroeke….

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:33
  40. avatar
    #64 BOG

    @Speartackle: Ek dink dat Roger by Salt Rock wegkruip. Hy is besonders stil. Miskien Tasmania.@Grasshopper: Most from Bloem and southern FS, go to the EC. You get the few from Welkom. Most are returning to Mozambique. Is your home guard on alert? Seriously, I heard through the grapevine that several Embassies in Pretoria, are on high alert, in the event of national grid collapse- that is how serious they regard the matter. They ALWAYS have evacuation plans- just the alert levels change- throughout the world

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:26
  41. avatar
    #63 Grasshopper

    @Speartackle: Of course….ek gaan nie dit goed praat nie maar ek kan dit goed verstaan…..

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:23
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    #62 kosie

    @MikeSt: Ek dink EG doen die regte ding met die toetse. In 2011 was daar ook so ‘n storie met die O/15 span van daardie jaar en weet ek dat EG se O/15 span toe aan die Tuks reeks ontrek is agv ‘n baie klein minderheid seuns wat ‘n middel gebruik het.

    Hierdie keer is die skool se naam vir die hoof duidelik baie belangrik en ek ondersteun hom al die pad. Die kostes verbonde aan die toetse is die grooste struikelblok om alle spanne en skole te toets. Het so paar oproepe gemaak om uit tevind wie nou eintlik in die proses hier geld maak. Dit blyk dat die prys wel afgebring kan word indien die hoeveelheid toetse toeneem. Die hele ketting in die toets wil ook maar sy geldjie maak.

    Ek dink hieraan sal ons kan werk as daar genoeg druk op die mpy’e geplaas word om dit te sien as ‘n gemeenskaps projek. Ons is nog ver weg maar dit gaan nou begin.

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:21
  43. avatar
    #61 Speartackle

    @Murrayfield: Hahaha

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:16
  44. avatar
    #60 Murrayfield

    @Speartackle: Mike Schutte?

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:15
  45. avatar
    #59 Speartackle

    @Murrayfield: Ons moet net pasop dat Mike ons nie hier gaan bliksem nie

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:14
  46. avatar
    #58 Murrayfield

    @Speartackle: NOU is ek deurmekaar!! HAAI DA IS DIE LIGHTS!!!

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:12
  47. avatar
    #57 Speartackle

    @Grasshopper: So you can still understand the ‘taal’?

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:11
  48. avatar
    #56 Speartackle

    @Murrayfield: Jy kan dalk n paar ‘haailights’ ook hier kry

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:10
  49. avatar
    #55 Grasshopper

    @BOG: Sure is better than Bloem, hence all the binnelanders here over Christmas….it was madness. The embassy had to give out hundreds of visa’s to get in…

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:10
  50. avatar
    #54 Murrayfield

    @Speartackle: Sorry was “High” KLERKSDORP!

    Stop daai Bantam!!! Ek is nou da!!

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:08
  51. avatar
    #53 Speartackle

    @Murrayfield: Waars Kleksdorp?

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:07
  52. avatar
    #52 Speartackle

    @Murrayfield: Ek sit hier by die agterste hek nou…………wit Bantam………skool is uit……….dink iets kan nou gebeur

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:05
  53. avatar
    #51 Murrayfield

    @Speartackle: Ek is op pad pappa! Hou plek!! Soek daai “panando’s”!!!!!

    Het ek ‘n paspoort nodig Speartackle? Kry jy een in Kleksdorp ook?

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    4 February, 2015 at 14:02
  54. avatar
    #50 Speartackle

    @BOG: Sou jy se Ballito is n veilige plek om jou habitat te maak ? Is Salt Rock, Umhlanga, Durban Noord gevaarsones?

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:58
  55. avatar
    #49 BOG

    @Speartackle: Die volgende is n afskrif van n diplomatieke nota, wat ek aan Grasshopper gestuur het:

    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, presents its compliments to the Embassy of the Republic of Ballito in South Africa, and has the honour to inform you that the sh1t is about to hit the fan.But due to load shedding and the imminent collapse of the national grid, the fan will be off I urge you to take the necessary steps to vacate your staff to a safer area, e.g Somalia. Alternatively, to place your home guard on high alert to protect your premises from marauding gangsters
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs avails itself of this opportunity to renew to the Embassy of Ballito, the assurances of its highest consideration

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:54
  56. avatar
    #48 Speartackle

    @Murrayfield: Blykbaar in die parkeerarea…..eks nou juis hier………sien nog nie………die mense lyk anders hier aan die Oosrand

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:52
  57. avatar
    #47 Murrayfield

    @Speartackle: Daai EG atlete het uitstekend gelyk, wou self weet waar die “sellers” was!

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:50
  58. avatar
    #46 Speartackle

    Eintlik Paul Reveres

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:48
  59. avatar
    #45 Speartackle

    @BoishaaiPa: Daai Chessies halftyd was die lekkerste

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:48
  60. avatar
    #44 Murrayfield

    @Grasshopper: I do not think they had a choice Grasshopper. This can lead to a very negative name in school rugby circles especially in the recruiting of primary school players. I have met both their coaches and they are TOP guys. I am sure they are also disappointed!!!

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:47
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    #43 BoishaaiPa

    @BOG: You don’t need coffee, tea, cooldrink, milk, etc etc..so everything is abuse?..I think it is a bit oversimplifying the matter…Fact is I do need my glass of wine…

    @Speartackle: Gedoen wel…nie MISbruik nie!…Ek weet nie eers hoe lyk die C goed nie!..in daai dae het ons rou eiers met melk en suiker aangemaak….dis die naaste wat ons aan enige “substance” gekom het…Ek dink ook nie die paar chesterfields voor n game het my enige voordeel gegee nie!…

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:43
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    #42 Grasshopper

    To be Boksmart or Sharksmart or whatever they call it, schools should have to test all of their 1st team squads. Maybe Glaxo or one of the big medical companies could sponsor the testing, strapline ‘Keeping Bok Sport Clean’…

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:43
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    #41 Speartackle

    @Predator: Ek dink hier gaan nog baie ‘verwoes’ en ‘oorrompel’ word

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:41
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    #40 Speartackle

    @Murrayfield: Die wat jy gesien het…….was dit ‘buyers’ or ‘sellers’?

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:39
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    #39 Predator

    Geluk Mnr die Hoof, jy gaan meer geprys as gekritiseer word. Iemand het die vraag gevra wie gaan betaal vir die toetse. Dit moet verpligtend wees vir die ouers as die kind vir die senior skoolspanne speel. Hierdie euwel moet uitgeroei word en EG Jansen het hierdie baie moeilike veldtog begin. Kom ons ondersteun hulle. Waarvoor sou ‘n skool dan nou nie hierdie roete volg nie, dit gaan mos oor die kind,….so verkondig hulle dit altyd !!!, sal interesant wees om te sien wie van die groot kanonne EG volg en wie sal een of ander verskoning aanbied. Ek voorspel dat hier baie onderokke gaan uithang !

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:39
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    #38 Grasshopper

    @Murrayfield: Or it’s a price the school is willing to pay to ensure they are clean or seen to be clean…..quite a big price I say. That is 5 kids annual fees at a gov school in KZN

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:36
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    #37 Murrayfield

    @Grasshopper: I am sure the R178 000.00 came out of the “RUGBY BUDGET”!

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:32
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    #36 Murrayfield

    @Rugbyman: NIEMAND het julle afgeskryf nie RugbyMan………. niemand weet ook HOE julle span gaan lyk nie!! (LOL)

    Ek was juis nou die dag ingesprek met ‘n top rugbyskool wat genoem het dat dit net tyd was vir van die EG spelers om ‘n “toets” te dop! Ek het van hulle by skole atletiek gesien hierdie jaar en van hulle was ENORMOUS!

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:31
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    #35 Murrayfield

    @valke: Is dit waar dat net ‘n paar getoets is?

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:26
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    #34 Speartackle

    @BOG: Hoe sou jy die emigrasie statistieke soos op 4 Februarie 2015 beskryf en watse faktore lei daartoe?

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:25
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    #33 BOG

    @Speartackle: Ek het n soortgelyke vraag gevra omtrent n jaar of twee, gelede en toe, was my kop amper afgebyt. Beskou jouself dus gelukkig. The question is, what is “abuse”? If you dont need a substance, ie alcohol , tobacco or steroids, then ANY quantity, however small, is abuse. The fact that it has become socially acceptable, does not change the truth, one iota.

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:16
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    #32 Grasshopper

    Well done EG, who the heck is going to foot the R178,000 bill! Agree testing should be done on all 1st team players in all sports randomly and throughout the year. Do it for a a few years and usage will stop…

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    4 February, 2015 at 13:12
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    #31 Speartackle

    @MikeSt: Nou praat jy ou Mike

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:41
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    #30 Rugbyman

    @4×4: kontraktering gaan niks stop nie… die seuns wedywer almal vir na-skoolse kontrakte en die plek waar hulle raakgesien word is by skole rugby… of die seun n kontrak het of selfs n beurs maak nie die ou sonder n kontrak meer of minder kompeterend nie… almal wat aspirasies vir na skool het wil dit ewe graag he! Ek se toets almal randomly!!!

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:34
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    #29 Speartackle

    @MikeSt: Het die Parow girls jou nie eers bietjie gegryp nie?

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:32
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    #28 Speartackle

    @BoishaaiPa: Nie eers ‘d’ nie?

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:31
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    #27 BoishaaiPa

    @Speartackle: Daar is n verskil tussen misbruik en gebruik….In my geval het ek geen MISbruik nie… :mrgreen:

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:26
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    #26 4×4

    Mnr Leon de Beer hats off to you sir. Ek wil nie ‘n punt labour nie, maar die onwettig gebruik is ‘n sindroom van die epidemie. Solank as wat daar professionele kontrakte gesluit word met skoolseuns gaan daar gebruik gemaak word van alle middels tot hulle beskikking om te bly presteer sodat die beurse wat aangebied word in plek kan bly…verwyder formele kontraktering uit skolerugby tot en met ouderdom 18 jaar, en dit sal ook die probleem in ‘n groot mate oplos wat betref die gebruik van steriodes.

    Dit is tyd dat SARU verpligde toetse instel op alle vlakke en ook sommer reels neer le wat betref kontraktering van minderjarige kinders.

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:11
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    #25 Speartackle

    @MikeSt: Speel Monnas tuis of weg teen julle in Nu Power?

    Wil net weet of ek moet n paar ekstra sjielings saambring om voorraad te kop

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:11
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    #24 Speartackle

    @BoishaaiPa: Regtig?

    Watter van a,b,c of d het jy gebruik/misbruik op die ouderdom van 17.

    Ek dink Mike en RM moet dit ook vir my antwoord asb

    Eks besig met n steekproef

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:08
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    #23 Speartackle

    @Rugbyman: Ek het nog nerens gelees waar iemand Garsfontein afgeskryf het nie…………is dit op n ander site waar jy dit dit gesien het?

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:06
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    #22 BoishaaiPa

    @Speartackle: All of the above

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:05
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    #21 Rugbyman

    @MikeSt: baie besig met projekte by die werk… so te min tyd om te veel te worry oor rugby… gelukkig skryf almal ons 1ste span af en sien ons nie die jaar as n bedreiging nie, so die druk is heelwat minder as laasjaar… 8)

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    4 February, 2015 at 12:01
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    #20 Rugbyman

    @MikeSt: ons meneer?

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:58
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    #19 Rugbyman

    @Speartackle: now you’re only full of kakkakokol…

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:53
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    #18 Speartackle

    @Rugbyman: During my Comrades and Argus glory days I was vrot of the Stanazolol and Deca Nandrolone and look at me today…………6”3′ wrought iron

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:52
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    #17 Rugbyman

    @Speartackle: I presume you are more than familiar with a, b and d on your list…? :wink:

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:49
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    #16 Rugbyman

    @MikeSt: as a matter of interest, who did the tests? And why according to valke’s post were only certain boys tested?

    Maybe SARU should make it compulsory for all boys to be tested on 1st team level at on a random date in the season. Furthermore testing should be a prerequisite to qualify for cravenweek honours… not sure if this is possible though…

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:44
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    #15 QC86

    EG that is a fantastic approach,i salute you .

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:39
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    #14 Speartackle

    @MikeSt: Both

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:36
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    #13 Speartackle

    Which of the following would be more harmful to a 17 year old boy?

    a) Alcohol
    b) Tobacco
    c) Anabolic Steroids
    d) Unsafe sex

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:30
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    #12 Andre T

    Don’t know what is the big deal with using

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:26
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    #11 Playa

    @MikeSt: Excellent approach! Definitely something for all schools to at least review. I’m just worried that, unlike professional sports, this sanction is not universal. These boys can just jump ship and end up at another school to play rugby. School heads need to be in sync

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:20
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    #10 Playa

    @MikeSt: Excellent approach! Definitely something for all schools to at least review. I’m just worried that, unlike professional sports, this sanction is not universal. These boys can just jump ship and end up at another school to play rugby. School heads need to be in sync

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:19
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    #9 valke

    @MikeSt: Mike, just to clear some confusion here.

    Not the whole senior group were tested. Only a selected few were tested.

    Only urine tests were done.

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    4 February, 2015 at 11:04
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    #8 GreenBlooded

    @MikeSt:

    Hope everyone buys into the process and supports the head here. Something tells me he is going to take some flak for this. I say he’s a hero!

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    4 February, 2015 at 10:15
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    #7 GreenBlooded

    @MikeSt:

    What are you saying – all boys were tested and these were the only 2? If so – even more kudos!!!

    PS: I didn’t say ‘never’ anything?

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    4 February, 2015 at 10:10
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    #6 GreenBlooded

    @Playa:

    Now that’s what I call a tough approach!! Good on the principal for taking such a no-nonsense approach. I’m sure there are a few more okes in that school who are now not sitting too comfortably in their seats knowing that the hoof is taking a hard line. All principals need to follow this fine example. No more sport for roid-heads.

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    4 February, 2015 at 10:03
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    #5 Playa

    @co: A case of cause and effect, perhaps?

    Johannesburg – Two pupils of the Dr EG Jansen High School in Boksburg, on Johannesburg’s East Rand, will appear before a disciplinary hearing after being caught in possession of steroids,Netwerk24 reported on Wednesday.

    Principal Leon de Beer called the police to arrest the two boys, aged 16 and 17, on the school premises.

    The school’s governing body decided to suspend the boys pending the outcome of the hearing next week.

    Governing body chairperson Kobus Kleynhans said any children caught using steroids would not be allowed to participate in school sport again.

    The police said the boys were arrested and then released into their parents’ care.

    This comes a day after Western Province rugby player Gerbrandt Grobler was banned for two years after testing positive for an anabolic steroid.

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    4 February, 2015 at 09:54
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    #4 kosie

    @beet: This is the sort of response we need to eradicate the usage of illegal substances. Seems EG are serious in this regard. If the users only knew how much damage they inflict in themselves they probably would think twice.

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    4 February, 2015 at 09:27
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    #3 Pedantic

    @beet: Let’s hope that doesn’t cause a hiccup in what looks to be a strong season for them.

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    4 February, 2015 at 08:58
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    #2 beet

    @kosie: Word is that EG has also tested their rugby players on Monday following the incident last week

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    4 February, 2015 at 07:59
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    #1 kosie

    @MikeSt: Well done EG! Ek haal my hoed af vir julle skoolhoof. Die feit dat hy daad by woord gesit het en die polisie gebel het oor 2 leerders wat steriode op hulle gehad het. 10 uit 10 ook vir die SAPS wat hulle gearesteer het. Die steriode ding is baie gevaarlik vir jong mense

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    4 February, 2015 at 05:57