Results – week ending 04 May 2013

SCHOOL SCHOOL NOTES TIME
EG Jansen 36 12 Noord-Kaap Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 07h50
Glenwood 36 13 Boland Landbou Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 09h00
Monnas 36 14 Drostdy Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 10h10
Affies 41 21 Framesby Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 10h10 (B-field)
Grey College 42 20 Oakdale Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 11h20
HJS Paarl BH 55 15 Paarl BH Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 11h20 (B-field)
Grey High 51 10 Diamantveld Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 12h30
Paarl Gim 43 18 Harmony (WK Inv) Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 13h40
Paul Roos 30 17 Maritzburg College Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 14h50
Outeniqua 39 19 Waterkloof Wildeklawer – 02/05/13 16h00
Oakdale 40 3 Sharks Inv Wildeklawer 07h15
Paarl Gim 34 6 Waterkloof Wildeklawer 08h25
EG Jansen 64 0 Diamantveld Wildeklawer 09h35
Outeniqua 48 15 Grey High Wildeklawer 09h35 (B-field)
Glenwood 17 15 Paarl BH Wildeklawer 10h45
Drostdy 29 7 Wildeklawer Inv Wildeklawer 10h45 (B-field)
Boland Landbou 20 16 Noord-Kaap Wildeklawer 11h55
Affies 17 10 Paul Roos Wildeklawer 13h05
Grey College 13 8 Monument Wildeklawer 14h15
M. College 16 16 Framesby Wildeklawer 15h25
Die Brandwag 18 19 St Andrews EP top 2 at the moment
Selborne 27 23 Queens Postponed until Monday
Dale 46 12 Stirling
Hudson Park  – Kingswood Cancelled. Waterlogged field
Nico Malan 26 10 Despatch
Jim Fouche 21 22 Marlow
Hilton 34 0 St Charles
Kearsney 38 5 Michaelhouse
Sarel Cilliers 59 5 Newcastle  50min game
KES 16 22 Westville
Parktown 33 5 DHS
Pretoria BH 28 27 Jeppe Gauteng English schools top 2 currently
Garsfontein 61 21 Centurion Huge game
Transvalia 72 0 Volkskool, Heidelberg
Strand 14 21 SACS
Tygerberg 3 54 Rondebosch
Wynberg 75 3 Primrose
Durbanville 20 16 Hugenote
Bellville 23 45 Bishops

182 Comments

  1. @jakkie, my predictions are: EG by 12, Glenwood by 2, monnas by 8, Affies by 50, Grey College by 25, Boishaai by 25, Grey by 10, Gym by 50, Paul Roos by 5, Outeniqua by 15. What do you think Beet? @Grasshopper, are you at the games tomorrow? Glenwood vs Boland L is going to be epic battle. You need to stop their pick and drive, their pack is so physical. Too close to call, that is if Glenwood pitch. I also expect Paul Roos vs College to be close. Home ground advantage plus the occasion will lift College. Beware of Roos though, they seem to be getting momentum…

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  2. @gimmie, watter home ground advantage praat jy van? Ek dog College is uit Natal. Word Donderdag wedstryde uitgesaai?

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  3. Good luck to College, Glenwood and the KZN Invitation team for today. Fly the flag high for KZN. To all the teams, enjoy the rugby and may it be an injury free day (at least no serious injuries).
    Well done to College once again on their 150.

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  4. Could somebody please go to the beer tent and remind our Sharkies friends that the matches started already. If they can send a score through it would be mutch appreciated :(
    Affies U/16 17-7 HTS Middelburg. Final score.

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  5. @Woltrui: i hope no chicks are allowed at the ground today or else we won’t hear from Beet the whole day again. :(

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  6. @Westers: Well done Westers – hope MC have an awesome tourney – especially after the 150th was marred by two schoolboy tradgedies.

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  7. @QC86: There’s a netball tourney on at the same time – do you think we’ll be getting updates on that instead? And on the conditioning of some of the coaching staff? :oops:

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  8. @Rugger fan: well thats the end of us working class getting any scores, the netball scores are the only scores he will keep us abreast of.

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  9. Strong contender for the SA Schools no.8 jersey, he’ll have a couple others to compete with, all of whom are at Wildeklawer, namely Dian Koen, Rikus Bothma and Grey PE’s Groenewald

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  10. @Ludz: Agreed Ludz, many great No8’s out there as usual. Have you seen the young Glenwood No8, Jaco Coetzee? He has it all, speed, skills, size…..maybe for next year as he is in grade 11. 187cm and 95kg, so maybe needs another 5 kgs……also Schramm from Kearsney is another prospect for this year….Bothma for me will get it…

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  11. Half time – Boishaai leading Sharks Invitation team 22-10. Pretty good performance so far for that Sharks side.

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  12. Kearsney to do one over the old enemy this weekend. Should be entertaining say the least.
    Old Crocks saying their farewell to 80 years of rugby between the school and past natal and springbok greats. Should be very moving.

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  13. Why does the scores change so much between half time and final score. Are the officials reminded about the history etc and then tend to only see the other’s mistakes. Not on purpose but in wallet?
    Boland Landbou leading and then losing
    Grey – Oakdale sharing spoils at half time and then losing.

    Maybe the boertjies must not speak THE TAAL to the match officials. Just doesn’t make sense to me.

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  14. @ Buffel- I know 1 or 2 Old Crocks and so will be up the hill to pay my respects. My oldman was the oldest to ever play at the age of 51.As Burt would say” Unbelievable” or rather just plain crazy :lol: I will be keeping my eye on the KES v Westville results as they come in though as the Grogper Cup is at stake. House seem very poor out wide and so do not get caught up in a brawl upfront because that is they way they would like you to play. A few of my House mates and family have gone into hiding after being very vocal last year. :mrgreen:

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  15. @star: Westville probably have the toughest draw for Groper this w/e – good luck in the Red Den

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  16. @Grasshopper: am a huge fan of Outeniqua’s Dian Koen, but saw glimpses of young Liebenberg at Craven Week last year, very good player. Drotsdy pundits say he’s even better than our Baby Bok captain Wiaan Liebenberg

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  17. Were all the men that were going to keep us updated what was the final GCB score and Affies and so on.

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  18. @Tjoppa: Come now Tjoppa, if you are not at the match then I reckon it is badly offsides to basically accuse the officials of being corrupt, or biased against Afrikaans sides. If it is a English/Afrikaans thing then how do you explain Grey Bloem doing so well in the second half. Not as if the Grey calls are going to be in the Queens English.

    Maybe the better teams just win, the better conditioned teams can keep up the intensity for 70 minutes. There are many explanations that do not include cheating.

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  19. Grey Bloem 42-13 over Oakdale (I think it is the final score)

    Affies I think 57 – nil over Framesby

    Boisbaai 55-15 over the Sharks Invitation (which must kinda blow Tjoppa’s theory of the Rooinekke being able to pay off the Soutie-friendly officials!!)

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  20. Well done EG Jansen to a brilliant performance and a brilliant team this year. The coaches and assitants are doing a great job there.

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  21. Paarl Gym playing an Inv 15 team is a shocker who on earth planned that so do they win by 50 or 60

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  22. as per schoolsportsnews:
    Day 1, Thursday 02 May 2013

    A-Field

    Time

    Fixture

    Score

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    07h50

    EG Jansen v Noord Kaap

    36 – 12
    09h00

    Glenwood v Boland Landbou

    36 – 13
    10h10
    HTS Drostdy v Monument
    14 – 36
    11h20
    Grey Bloem v Oakdale
    42 – 20
    12h30
    Diamantveld v Grey PE
    13h40
    Paarl Gim v Wildeklawer XV
    14h50
    Maritzburg v Paul Roos
    16h00
    Outeniqua v Waterkloof

    B-Field
    Time
    Fixture
    Score
    10h10

    Affies v Framesby
    41 – 21
    11h20
    Paarl Boys High v KZN Invitational XV
    35 – 15

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  23. Well done Affies , Framseby should not have been there should have been Brandwag.

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  24. @Ludz: Groenewald has played lock for at least the last 3 games. ( dont know about today). Seems to be better suited there.

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  25. @star: I bow my head to your superior knowledge. A old man sometimes think with their hearts. And very old men, read Bog, with their arse.

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  26. @Gungets Tuft: Both teams that lost out in the second half was Landbou schools. Gey just another school in rural Freestate. Not the same thing.

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  27. @Tjoppa: I think it is wiser to keep quiet than to say certain things.
    How often have you watched a game on tv, where the commentators say that ” it was a game of 2 halves “. There are often stories of coaches giving their players a mouthful yo wake them up at half time.
    To suggest that the refs are prejudiced against Boland schools is laughable.
    I suggest that you take a leaf out of Ploegskaar’s poat on another string. He accepts the defeat graciously.
    As far as speaking the taal goes, that is also laughable, considering the big wins that the other Afrikaana schools manage to register.

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  28. That was meant to read Ploegskaar’s post under ” Wildeklawer team sheets “

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  29. @Amalekite: Wessie do this exercise slowly. Look up in the sky for two minutes breathing deeply, then loosen your belt at least 4 holes, pull your jersey slowly to cover that beer belly your wife hates to scratch. All this must happen while you are still staring at the sky. Now slowly pull the left side of your lips upwards and then the right side must follow. Slowly do not bear your teeth. No slowly bring your head back to level. What you will observe now is that a lot of people are smiling. Now you must decide do they smile at you or with you.

    I WAS ONLY JOKING

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  30. @Queenian: If Brandwag keep this form up they will be invited soon. No good if they just a flash in the pan this year and go back to a bubbling under status again. Framesby was invited because of excellent form last year and the previous, but are not on song this year and will need to step it up again to stay on the invite list. So the one year builds or breaks for the rest to come.

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  31. @Tjoppa:What would make me feel better,is for you to think before you write, and then say that you were joking when you end up looking like a Tjop

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  32. @Amalekite: If you call that humour? Im sure its the advanced symptoms of dementia. And the pink shirt has hastened the process. Rumour has it that he tried to walk down the main street of Krugersdorp, wearing it, but was so harassed that he had to move to Pretoria, one of the few places in SA where he does not have an ex. With his “language theory” it now explains, according to his logic, why GCB lost in the second half on their last visit.

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  33. @Amalekite: If you were a more frequent visitor you would be able to understand the friendly banter between Afrikaans&English,Cape&State&Vaal, so grow up. Phone bog that old fart will agree with anything.

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  34. @BOG: i watched the Selborne Grey Bloem game on Sat and i must say,Grey very lucky to win.Grey were down 5 nil very early in the game :mrgreen:

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  35. @BOG: No you are wrong, walked nude down the main street of Krugersdorp. Wore the pink shirt a the Gey parade in West Bloemfontein. Moved to Pretoria no I stayed here my whole life. Not a whenwe like you Boggie.

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  36. @QC86: I heard that the Cherries were even luckier? And the last time I watched a game there, was in 2007. I think the Cherries were the only side to loose that day. But they were blown everytime they crossed the halfway. Even the Selborne supporters apologised. It actually was comical, but Im sure it happens allover. But that was extreme. The first team, that exceptional team, won 68-0 against a not too bad Selborne side.Were you allowed into the whippet?

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  37. @QC86: Your 1st 15 was lucky they did not play Cherries. Rumour has it that they are better than Grey 1st team. It will be confirmed after Waterkloof wins this afternoon.

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  38. @BOG: no ,had to drink my beer outside by the pool.Saturday when Queens win i will be in there boet,shouting loudly@Tjoppa: one of the Grey coaches said that the backlines are very much the same,but the firsts forwards would kill the cherries forwards

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  39. @Tjoppa: Tjoppa, these guys are serious SBR Aficionados, no worries, your tongue in cheek banter is great, it breaks the seriousness of it all.

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  40. @gimmie: Uitstekende predictions gimmie! Ken jou rugby! Gim is ‘n uitstekende span. Na my mening, en dit is net my opinie, is die top3 spanne vanjaar gim, affies en kwaggas. Daar is ‘n groot gaping tussen nr. 4 en hierdie drie spanne. Kan dit net weer sien in die rustyd telling van kwaggas en Waterkloof game (34-0 vir kwaggas). En Gim moet uistekende span wees om kwaggas op hul tuisveld so oortuigend te klop. Donker dae voor vir gim teenstanders! Is sooooo jammer Grey speel nie die jaar teen Gim nie. Hel, ek sou daai loesing wou aanskou!

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  41. @jakkie: I watched Grey vs Outiniqua and I can’t say there was much in it, 22/20 end score, being school boy rugby a lot happens on the day. I don’t think there is a big gap between Grey at 4, and the other three.

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  42. @jakkie: Loesing? Ek dink darem nie ek sal so voorbarig wees om te se dat Grey vir Gim n loesing sal gee nie. Jy sal merk dat die OGs maar altyd hulle monde hou en beskeie optree.@McCulleys Workshop: And by all accounts, GCB did not have a particular good day against Kwaggas, and please, its not an excuse. Thank you for an impartial and objective opinion

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  43. @McCulleys Workshop: i still need convincing, oakdale result not that convincing. But I’m sure they’ll prove me wrong as season progress and they start playing more top teams!

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  44. @jakkie: glad nie voorbarig, ek glo vas gim sal hulle klap. En hard. Kan nie verskoning maak van “afdag”, jy sal nooit n gimmie of n kwagga hoor se hulle het n afdag gehad nie. Wen en verloor met waardigheid en gee erkenning waar dit toekom. Lyk my jy het baie agting vir die OG’s, jy verwys deesdae baie na hulle? Elkgeval, ek wil nie elke keer met jou redeneer nie man, kom ons probeer bietjie saamstem oor iets of wat se oom? :-D ek dink buitendien Grey gaan nog groot resultate oplewer, dis mos in die groot games waar hulle hand opsteek, en tot dusver nog net een grote gehad.

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  45. @jakkie: Ek soek nie onnodig moeilikheid nie, maar aanvalle en kritiek teen my alma mater oor die jare het vir my al doof gemaak. Ons ken die storie van hoe bome en ons weet wat die grootste oorsprong is daarvoor- jaloesie. As dit nog opbouende en realistiese kritiek is gebaseer op fete, kan dit nog aanvaar word. Maar snert, spekulasie en feeverhale, veral dit wat spruit uit seniliteit, gee vir my n behoefte aan ontlasting

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  46. Wys jou net hoe onvoorspelbaar skolerugby is…op enige dag kan enige van die skole n ander klop..hang net af wie “opdaag” vir die game. Waterkloof wen Boishaai met 6 punte..n skop hier of daar was die verskil..KlofiePa is getuie dat dit n close game was…Kwaggas wen vir Boishaai met 9 punte…Boishaai moes heeltyd van agter probeer terugkom en was agter net nie goed genoeg op die dag nie..Kwaggas het daai game verdien om te wen want hulle het was eenvoudig net die beter span op die veld. Vandag se Kwagga vs Waterkloof telling verbaas my…maar wys maar net weer dat die een span na verlede naweek se verloor “opgedaag” het en die ander span was net te laat!…My eerlike opinie is dat dat as al die “top 20” teen mekaar speel sal elkeen op 50/50 eindig…behalwe Grey…hulle sal op 80/20 eindig. Die resultate deur die jare bewys dit.

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  47. @BOG: nie een keer kritiek gelewer teenor grey se rugbyspan nie, het tonne respek vir die skool en sy geskiedenis en dankbaar vir die aandeel in ons rugby en ons land se geskiedenis. Ek bevraagteken net jou opinies en uitkyk op uitslae, grey, asook ander skole, which is fair? Is dit nie? Dis immers n blog? Moenie so fyn gevoelig wees nie, watEK maar net dink jy is, maar dis maar net ek. En jy hoef nie te gaan ontlas nie, jy kan sommer net gaan k*k… Kom ons praat bietjie rugby man.

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  48. @BoishaaiPa: ek dinK dis n ongelooflike jaar van skole rugby. Daars verskriklik baie kompetisie en geleenthede soos wildeklawer en paastoernooie en die premier schools wedstryde, wat maak dat die seuns elke naweek krag teen krag kan meet. Ek dink dis fantasties.

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  49. @ Westers

    Well done Westville! i did think we would put more on them than that but then again it tough playing up in jhb thin air gasp gasp..lol..( 2 years in a row KES we played at your home ) so that would have defo counted against us. Do you know how they played ? other of our team scores? our 2nds?

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  50. 3rds, 2nds, 1sts and a couple of the junior sides games called off, weather is terrible. Fields waterlogged

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  51. Just looking at some the Wildeklawer scores and it shows you that Westville didnt do that badly at KERF as if you look at Waterkloof (top10 apparently) who have now also played Outeniqa and Paarl gym and getting hammered ig style … we did better for sure and shows how the rankings are actually a lot closer than what it shows besides the say top 5.

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  52. @ Horsefly : The u16A were much improved from last week, but to many mistakes happened at critical moments. Although the team was mixed in certain positions(Prop playing lock, and lock playing 8) and 1 variation in the backs, I do think some players wernt up 2 the occasion. 2 losses in a row, not being good. But I do think they can pull the win against Kearsney

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  53. Due to the bad weather, Selborne 1st Rugby XV vs Queens 1st XV will be played at Selborne on Monday 6 May at 15h00. Selborne 1st Hockey XI vs Queens 1st Hockey XI and Selborne 2nd Rugby XV vs Queens 2nd Rugby XV and will be played on the same day and venue, starting at 14h00.

    Rugby
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    Selborne College 1st Rugby XV vs Queens College 1st XV (Postponed to Monday 6 May 2013 at 15h00)
    Selborne College 2nd Rugby XV vs Queens College 2nd XV (Postponed to Monday 6 May 2013 at 14h00)
    Selborne College 3rd Rugby XV vs Queens College 3rd XV (Cancelled due to flooded fields.)
    Selborne College 4th Rugby XV beat Queens College 4th XV (29-7)
    Selborne College 5th Rugby XV beat Queens College 5th XV (12-0)
    Selborne College 6th Rugby XV beat Queens College 6th XV (31-0)
    Selborne College 7th Rugby XV beat Queens College 7th XV (22-5)
    Selborne College 8th Rugby XV beat Queens College 8th XV (29-14)
    Selborne College U16 A Rugby XV beat Queens College U16 A XV (34-0)
    Selborne College U16 B Rugby XV beat Queens College U16 B XV (57-0)
    Selborne College U16 C Rugby XV beat Queens College U16 C XV (28-0)
    Selborne College U15 A Rugby XV beat Queens College U15 A XV (42-0)
    Selborne College U15 B Rugby XV beat Queens College U15 B XV (29-0)
    Selborne College U15 C Rugby XV vs Queens College U15 C XV (Cancelled due to flooded fields.)
    Selborne College U14 A Rugby XV beat Queens College U14 A XV (7-0)
    Selborne College U14 B Rugby XV vs Queens College U14 B XV (Cancelled due to flooded fields.)
    Selborne College U14 C Rugby XV beat Queens College U14 C XV (12-0)

    Played: 12, Won: 12, Lost: 0, Postponed: 2 and Cancelled: 3
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    Hockey
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    Selborne College 1st Hockey XI vs Queens College 1st XI (Postponed to Monday 6 May 2013 at 14h00)
    Selborne College 2nd Hockey XI drew Queens College 2nd XI (1-1)
    Selborne College 3rd Hockey XI beat Queens College 3rd XI (5-0)
    Selborne College 4th Hockey XI lost Queens College 4th XI (0-1)
    Selborne College U16 A Hockey XI beat Queens College U16 A XI (3-1)
    Selborne College U16 B Hockey XI beat Queens College U16 B XI (2-1)
    Selborne College U16 C Hockey XI beat Queens College U16 C XI (1-0)
    Selborne College U16 D Hockey XI beat Queens College U16 D XI (3-0)
    Selborne College U14 A Hockey XI drew Queens College U14 A XI (1-1)
    Selborne College U14 B Hockey XI beat Queens College U14 B XI (3-2)

    Played: 9, Won: 6, Lost: 1, Drew: 2 and Postponed: 1
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    Squash
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    Selborne College 1st Squash Team beat Queens College 1st (6-0)
    Selborne College 2nd Squash Team lost Queens College 2nd (2-4)
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    Chess
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    Selborne College beat Queens College (8-4)
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    Golf
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    Selborne College beat Queens College (5-0)
    ………………………………………………………………………………..
    Debating
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    Selborne College Seniors lost Queens College Seniors
    Selborne College Juniors lost Queens College Juniors

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  54. @GCollege86: Sorry was married in an Afrikaans community 40 years ago. What is this sport called “Debating”. Although this is a rugby blog. I can understand your excitement. But let us at least limit this to sport.

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  55. @Tjoppa:Stem 100% saam met jou. Ek is ook Afrikaans maar my kinders is in n Ingelse skool. Het die uitslae “gecopy en gepaste”. Die manne hier sien dit as n sport seker omdat dit soos hokkie (wat wel n sport is) een van die min dinge waarmee ons met Grey Bloem kan kompeteer. Seker maar soos Kuns en Kultuur wat n skoolvak is.

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  56. @Griffon: I know at least 15 boys who will disagree with that rather arrogant statement – beware complacency!

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  57. Nice result for Westville – a win in Gauteng after a long bus trip is against a major school is quite an achievement.

    I wonder where Roger is hiding?

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  58. Glad Dale finally have a win under their belts. This is good preparation for reunion day.

    Garries are just demolishing all and sundry, that is a huge result.

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  59. @ Pedantic : Didn’t mean to put out in an arrogant way. The Kearsney game should be a hard game as your 16A’s seem to be improving game by game. Just think when some of the returning injured boys can help improve the teams perfomance from the previous 2 weeks. As we’ve seen in the past few weeks, anything can happen in this age group

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  60. @ Pedantic- D had an imposing game and your scrummie was very busy. I still think that Westville on their day have a little more in the tank but certainly no complacency from our side
    @ Griffon – I suppose the only positive with all the missed kicks,tackles and knock ons( and other errors) was that we only lost by 7 points. Apparently no boy put up his hand which means Westville must just go back to the basics and rebuild its confidence levels. There is still some class in this team.

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  61. @GCollege86: we were on a hiding 2nd to none in rugby, probably would’ve saved face with a 1st XV win, glad they postponed it to Monday, those conditions would’ve suited Selborne

    @Umtata: absolutely chuffed for the tickbird, well done on a good win

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  62. @ Star : I agree our kicker had an off day, missing 4/5 kicks he’s usually slot in. Our backs weren’t as dangerous as they are when Shange is present. I do think that the game could’ve been a draw if it wernt for a harsh call made against Westville when they had a scrum 5 m away from the KES tryline. Apparntly the scrummie put in the ball a bit late after the Ref called scrum. The B team did well and showed great character to almost have a successful comeback after being 14 points behind to lose by 4 points

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  63. @GCollege86: Daar is veel erger dinge hier bespreek as “debating” en skaak. Maar sekeres gebruik, of is dit misbruik, die geleentheid om hulle misnoe of teenkanting (of is dit jaloesie?) teen n behoorlike interskole waar daar volle deelname is deur die hele skool,, uit te spreek.

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  64. @GreenBlooded: Im sure you will know this ruling, can an injured player who is being attended’to by medical staff, jump up and tackle a player running past him???

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  65. @Griffon: It was a very harsh call, given that Westville had an option of penalty or scrum and took the latter as it was closer to the line.

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  66. @Engelsman: Somebody watching yesterday said it was legitimate. Further comment was that if he had gone back down after making the tackle then he would have been yellow carded. Will be interested to get Greenblooded’s take on this.

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  67. @ Westers : I think the 1st team put in a strong performance and the whole team was up to the occasion. A few players who I thought played well and stood out were , Weir, Else, McHardy(who made a try saving tackle), Braithwaite, IMO. How’s your view on the game ?

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  68. I am a great believer in form line. Framesby who has played the top 4 KZN schools together with Grey and Affies is a perfect test. Grey beat them by 21, Affies by 20, Kearsney by 17 ,GW by 3 and MC a draw. That is totally in line with the relative strengths of the schools at this stage. However along come Westville and beat them by 44 which is the result of Grey,Affies,GW and MC all put together. What this says is that Westville is a confidence team that are very good when they get their tails up but can disappear when the going gets tough as in the Paarl Gym game.Aparrently we were behind the 8 ball against KES until Else scored the intercept try and we got the belief back.We play Kearsney this weekend and I hope that if things do not go our early that the belieff will not desest us.

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  69. @star: I hear your point. Westville did not enjoy the rub of the green in first half. Many of the refs calls were difficult to understand…………non the less the boys kept on believing and were more clinical in 2nd half, some personnel changes 10 min into second half seemed to work well. Westville put pressure on them selves by making errors in defense. After a HT tongue lashing that soon improved. i believe this team has belief, we will need it against Kearsney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  70. @Griffon: I thought we started well. The intensity seemed high but we couldn’t convert the first few minutes of pressure. We then let KES into the game and struggled to get the ball through the rest of the first half. When we did get the ball we took some wrong options or played as individuals. We battled with our own lineouts as well. KES went 6-0 up with two penalties. It then looked like we had scored a try only for the ref to rule a forward pass. Very unlucky. Then KES got an unconverted try to lead 11-0 at the break. The tongue lashing at halftime seemed to help and together with the changes did the trick. Westville started to gain the upper hand and started winning their own lineouts. The first try in the left corner got them back in the game and gave them some belief. The intercept by Ellse in his own half to go in under the posts was the real game changer and they then played with real purpose after that scoring another converted try and penalty. KES then got a consolation try at the end. The players you mentioned all had good games. There is one player who I think has been consistently good this year without getting too many accolades – Snyman the fullback. He has a very calm demeanour and brings stability to the team. His touch finders are normally very good and his goal kicking has improved tremendously since last year.

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  71. @ Engelsman- We are home against a team that have expectations. The pressure is actually on them. We just need to believe in ourselves.

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  72. @star: Although we were behind the 8 ball until midway through the second half yesterday I never had the feeling we were out of the game. And once we scored you almost sensed that we were going to win. You are right about the self belief though. When the boys set their minds to playing as a team they play well. The coaches just need to get this through to them and get them to play like that from the start.
    Also need to make mention of the 2nd team. They have played really well this year and have a couple of players who are unlucky not to be in the 1sts. Schlemmer at no 10 is one of those. His play yesterday was outstanding, particularly is tactical kicking. I would like to see him playing at 10 with Reece at 9. This would be tough on Braithwaite who did have a very good game yesterday but I think has speed of pass is still a little slow and loopy at 1st team level.

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  73. Elke jaar word spanne ge-rate en top20′s gerangskik, maar ek is van mening dat die kwaliteit rugby, kompetisie en talent elke jaar van ‘n ander gehalte is, hetsy beter of swakker. byvoorbeeld ‘n span wat een jaar 4 of 5de le, sal dalk n nr. 1 van ‘n vroeer jaargroep gewen het. in ag geneem die spelers word elke jaar groter en moontlik sterker word en die game wat ook voortdurend verander, watter skoolspanne is na julle mening, die beste nog in die laaste 5-10 jaar?

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  74. Good question, difficult to answer. Grey 2010 was unbelievable. Goosen, serfontein , small-smith..best Gym team ever was 2008, scheuder, Lehman, Sadie, Visser. We won interschoops by more than 30 points, poetry in motion…the 2013 gym pack is our best ever in my view, even better than 1983 with Balie Swart and Kobus Wiese…the Paul Roos team of Justin Swart’s year was also awesome, they annihilated Grey Bloem…

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  75. beet, when are you announcing the Wildeklawer awards? Best forward, back, selection of the tournament?

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  76. @gimmie: Maybe team of the Wildeklawer. That should be quite interesting.
    On best school team ever I do not think it is possible as opponents differ from year to year and it is known that some years in total is not the best. Would be interesting if BHP could compile a list to see what year of matrics resulted in the most provincial players over a period. That could bring us closer to a meaningfull decision.

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  77. @Engelsman: Eish. That’s one of those law exam questions they put in just to prevent people from getting 100%. Strictly speaking if he is on the field of play and has not been replaced he is entitled to play if in an onside position. I don’t agree that there should be any difference if he goes down injured again – certainly not a YC.

    Interesting – I shall bounce it off one of my fellow referees for an opinion.

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  78. @ Westers : With regard to Schlemmer I do think most people thought he’d be the 1st team flyhalf, but Braithwaite brings more flair to the backs who have quite some pace this year. Schlemmer had a very good game for the seconds, showing great composure and put in great tactical kicks. He’s got an old mind on young body. He also has to be the most consistent goal kicker in the school hardly missing any kicks this season. Snyman for me has been inconsistent with his game and goalkicking. I do think that the team could try Buthelezi as a kicker, as I recall he was quite good and got good distance. What do you think ?

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  79. @Griffon: I agree Schlemmer is a better kicker than Snyman. But we haven’t lost a game this year because of his kicking. Previously Westvillle have lost games because of missed kicks. I think if you look at the kicks that Snyman has missed this year you will find that they were all fairly difficult.
    Braithwaite does have a bit of an X-factor about him but I think McHardy is a better no.9. I don’t think Westville are doing him any favours for CW selection by playing him at no.10. But he has such class that he may still make it. He deserves it. I also think that Schlemmer is a better tactical kicker at fly half than McHardy and in the big games still to come (Kearsney & College) he could make a difference. That is my opinion though and I admit it would be a difficult call to make.
    The issue with Buthelezi is he is not guaranteed a spot at the moment.
    This week against Kearsney is going to define Westville’s season.

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  80. @star: Star, I don’t get your form line theory re Framesby. Schoolboy rugby is erratic at best, you cannot draw inference from one game to the next and I think there is absolutely no statistical merit to your assumptions. GW (and I am not a supporter) are nowhere near 3 points off Framesby relative to Kearsney’s 17. On that basis Kearsney should have beaten MHS by 70 points. GW played MHS at balgowan and won 36 – 12, to a full strength MHS side. Kearsney beat MHS 38 – 5 yesterday, at Kearsney, with MHS missing 7 1st team players and another leaving the field at half time. Go figure! GW are certainly on a par with Kearsney or Westville this year, possibly better. So much happens on the day, based on depth, injuries, player rotation etc. Kearsney without both Du Preez are not formidable.

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  81. @McCulleys Workshop- You obviously do not follow the horses. And yes of course there are no certainties in any scenario or the bookies would be out of business. By all accounts Kearsney did underperform and maybe that had something do do with the atrocious weather conditions, I almost lost a finger or 2. There is always a point of reference and to me Framesby is the one due to who they have played. The results are in the book. GW lost to Kearsney without both Du Preez and therefore the relative margin is actually justified. The Westville result is the only one completely out of line and my argument is that it is a confidence issue which I have observed over a few seasons now.

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  82. @star: Glenwood lost to Kearsney in the beginning of the season by a point in the last minute at Kearsney, pretty closely matched sides to me. It would be interesting to see what the result would be now. Anyway, teams go through highs and lows in the season. Glenwood are notorious slow starters so who knows, would loved to have played Westville on Dixons this year :-)

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  83. @McCulleys Workshop: Star, then your earlier post is incorrect as it states that the Framesby point of reference is accurate of the teams ‘at this stage’. No, it was only accurate at the time of each game and has absolutely no bearing on current form or games. The GW – MHS game was played on a day when many schools cancelled due to the waterlogged fields, therefore that game should have also produced a different result as you suggest of the MHS – Kearsney game. Westville aren’t a unique observation ‘confidence’ side, all teams at this level are ‘confidence’ sides.

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  84. I see that the KZN manne are making a conclusion in that 3 of the KZN teams beat Framesby and 1 drew that the KZN teams are one up on there ECape counterparts which is a bit premature as at the moment i doubt whether Framesby even rate in the top 5 EC schools.

    Currently St Andrews/Brandwag/Grey PE/Queens/Selborne/Marlow are above them and as far as i remember Grey PE beat Westville & Queens beat MC so i think all in all they pretty even and ye i suppose Glenwood beat Paarl Boys High (Not there best year they only beat Union High by 1 point who are very ordinary maybe about No 10 in the EC)

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  85. Everyone: surely we should stop trying to make predictive comparisons about who is stronger or better than the other until everyone has played each other. For example: in retrospect I am glad KC played Glenwood earlier and won as I think they are getting stronger but to say we would lose is inconclusive. Some also said without the Doops KC are not formidable. Seriously! They had not played with the doops for the first 8 games of the season, only losing to Gimmies. I I think SBR is unpredictable most times. Mhs after two proper beatings had youngsters come up and really fight hard; does not mean KC are NOT that good. Each game on its merits. A school on its day with huge heart is sometimes far stronger than the the school oozing talent.

    Without a doubt I think home ground makes a difference to a team.

    Anyway, I know it’s all this and that. Looking forward to a real toughie at Bowdens this weekend.

    Ps: daniel doop did well for not havering run for 4 weeks.

    Good luck to each kid going to trials; geez I hate those things.

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  86. @kcob: I reckon the KZN schools are going to be very even this year. None of the schools is that much better that they can have a poor (or even average day) and hope to beat the other having a good day. I exclude DHS and Northwood from that statement at the moment (against Kearsney, Westville and Glenwood), perhaps Northwood and DHS have what it take to knock over House on the current form of each school. I reckon House are capable of fixing the obvious weaknesses and clawing something back.

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  87. Gungetstuft: yes, I think KZN is even! Last year bloggers were pegging KC and Westville; but look at how Glenwood, Hilton and College are being taken very seriously. It’s a good place for the province to be; some some really strong younger age groups coming through from various schools. All said and done; nothing beats having a dop with old mates whom are old boys of other schools or your own; whether they or you have won or lost. #iloverugby!

    I even got some old gear on; set the pitch (back garden lawn) and got my four year old to have a game of trams (koppastump) *spelling* with his older boets mediating the tough scrap that ensued!

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  88. @kcob: Wisdom at last! We need history, even a short one(season), to conclude who the best team is. But try and convey that logical point here with success, and I shall be very impressed.

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  89. Big surprises of the weekend: -Garsies score against a competitive Centurion side. Centurion were not bad in the Nu-power against HTS Middelburg. Garsies must be one of the top 5 sides in Sa at the moment. Big game coming up against EG Jansen this weekend.
    -Monnas performance against Grey Bloem after their loss against Jansies the previous week. Pure guts. Although I believe the conditions favoured Monnas and the score line would have looked different if it didn’t rain.
    -Thought Klofies would be more competitive against the 2 Western Cape sides. Two key players they lost in their pack, their strong point and basis of attack, obviously made a big difference to the side.

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  90. Wynberg have an interesting run coming up … some HUGE games. SBR clearly doesnt like the berg ranking us way below other websites, but lets hope we can pull off some big results ion the next couple weeks.

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  91. @ McCulley’s Workshop- the ranking at” this stage” is Grey,Affies,Kearsney,GW and MC. How do you see it? Form line is only the starting point . Of course things change with injuries,form ect which is the uncertainty about any form of rugby( Just ask the Kings who drew with the Brumbies away only to get thumped by the Waratahs at home.) Over a period of time things should even out. All teams are confidence teams but some more than others. I remember playing MC for the first time at Goldstones( as a post matric) and Hilton who had the better team on paper got thumped. I honestly felt that Hilton had lost the game before we ran on such was the body language and mindset. If you take the performance of MC, GW and Westville against DHS and NW over the last few years, it might suprize you as to who has been consistently the better performer.And yet head to head it is completely different. How do you explain that other than some schools play within their comfort zones and need to change the mindset to take the step up.I think that Westville playing the likes of Paarl Gym and Grey Bloem is a start. And please I am an old man( not as old as GT and Bog) putting a bit of banter out there and in no way should we be putting undue pressure on our boys. It is still a game and the friendships made will last a lot longer than the bumps and bruises in the changeroom.

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  92. @Woltrui:Garsfontein se uitslag die naweek bevestig net weereens dat hulle een van die sterkste spanne die jaar is.Ek dink Garsfontein het as n eenheid die beste agterlyn in skole rugby,selfs beter as die Kwaggas.Na al die positiewe kommentaar oor Grey se heelagter het ek meer van hom verwag.Die slot van Affies is die beste skole slot op die oomblik.Die 6 flank van Glenwood was weer goed.Net jammer sy grootte gaan teen hom tel.Saterdag se wedstryd teen EG Jansen sal bepaal of Garsfontein BMT het,ek dink dis al wat hulle kort.

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  93. Firstly, a huge WELL DONE to Glenwood.I must say, I was one of those who wrote them off at Wildeklawer, and how wrong I was. Definitely the team of the festival in my books.Very disciplined and mature performances.

    St Andrews seem to have all the luck this year.A needed extra when you have a very good side.Definitely the top team in the EC right now, and could go unbeaten in the province at this rate.Looking forward to following their progress against their boys’ schools rivals.

    Centurion getting such a huge beating from Garsies 8-O I really thought this would be a much closer encounter.What happened there?

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  94. @star: Looking forward to KC vs the Ville at the Ville …….i am sure there will be the usuall niggle ……if i remember correctly ….this group of grade 12s from both schools had a tough and brutal u16 encounter at the ville 2 years ago (one of the only games that KC won that day !)……field should be jam packed , the young ville old boys will be as vocal as ever ……..should be a steamer !

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  95. @star: I see it that at this stage Kearsney, MC, Glenwood and Westville are all on a par, probably Hilton up there too. Kearsney weren’t without Du Preez’s at KRF, on the last day, if I remember correctly both Du Preez’s played against Landbou, albeit not for the entire game. And their physical presence makes a huge difference and adds to the confidence factor, especially where depth is a factor. But all the KZN teams have started slowly and built in confidence, possibly barring MC, who started well and have stumbled recently and possibly lost a game or two they could have won. So the rankings are irrelevant as to how the teams are performing currently and I think GW are starting to hit their straps.

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  96. @oldschool: Totally agree , the way both teams are playing , it is going to be a belter! Watched WVBHS play to a good win at KES on Sat , and have the feeling that the team is gathering momentum . Players are better settled and starting to gain enough confidence to express their talents , while understanding the game structures and disciplines . looking forward to the Firsts and U16 A games as both are going to be tight affairs . The U16 A side record as an age group , U14 A WBHS won by one point in the last move of the game , U15A draw , so will be close game . i think !! Good luck to all the teams competing on the day !!

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  97. @ McCulleys Workshop- I agree with you re GW. Their backline is highly talented but at the start of the season they were a bit ” green” :mrgreen: and were slipping too many tackles.The game against Boishaai shows how much they have grown in self belief and they will be difficult to stop going forwards. Hilton will have a tough time on Dixons this weekend.

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  98. @ Star , McCulleys , kcob, gungets etc..

    I must say i agree that the top say 4/5 sides pretty even’ish and its just on the day who steps up and even perhaps gets a bit of luck here and there. Home ground defo helps.

    I did think MC would have beaten Framesby though…

    Gutted i wont be there at Westville to watch playing Kearsney… always great and rivalled to the max..is good. My Dad is a KC old boy so it adds to the occasion for me as its always nice smirking at him after the match .. hmmm and then sometimes being the other way around but is all good. I be back for the WBHS v MHS game – hope there some sun there as its been a crazy long winter..although the sun has come this bank holiday weekend and even got a slight burn on my now milk bottle skin haha.

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  99. @star: With the top KZN teams being so competitive this year, isn’t it a great pity that GW and WV are not playing? I don’t believe either school can claim the right to top spot if this question is not answered between 4 whitewashed lines. Have you heard anything further – I think it was you who said that the game might happen? BTW – huge result against KES, well done!!

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  100. having read the many blogs KC with or without the du preezs i am sure you will all agree that any side that has them missing is weakened, they are great players. But to say that KC is not a formaidable side without them i believe is a huge mistake. This same side at under 16 level played without them and Matt Reece edwads, who were playing first team and was the best side in KZN at under 16 level. This year the doops as you know havent been around through injury and Kearsney beat Glenwood. Yes Glenwood seem to be playing better but likewise Kearsney havent really been tested todate after Glenwood. Only Paarl Gim who beat them have run close against a side who have managed week in and out to win at a canter. Yes this week is going to be tough to beat westville at westville is always hard, i think it is going to be really tough, westville are a better side than what they showed at the kearsney festival. My point is that i dont believe one man maketh a team but yes it i could choose to have them or not of course i would choose them, but i feel KC have a lot more to offer. Michaelhouse missing 7 players so what we have beaten this team from under 14 level convincingly every year so donnt believe it would have made a difference hda they been there or not just my opinion

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  101. @sharkie: not for a moment was there any comment that Kearsney weren’t valid winners against MHS, with or without injured players, if you read the comments you will notice that the discussion revolves around using past performance to determine who will or won’t win or to determine current rankings. Unbeaten at U14 and U15 etc, while holding some merit, is also not a precursor to success, some boys peak early physically and are brutes at U14 and are average when they get to open rugby, players get bought, sold and injured etc. And I don’t believe Kearsney are formidable without the Du Preez’s. Schram is a great player, talented 9, 10 and 15, but formidable without Du Preez’s, no.

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  102. @McCulleys Workshop: looking at some of the teams at KERF and at wildeklawer , no KZN team can call itself formidable (no disrepect to Gwoods last 2 games) ……kzn have only produced a handfull of formidable SBR teams over the last 15 years ……however , KC with or with out the doeps is a great side to watch …….besides the obvious 8 9 10 15 ……add the Doops , centers are creative and commited , and the front row has manned up to all that has come there way …….
    Off the subject of KC , having chatted to many MHS parents , they seem to be frustrated with the little effort MHS seem to put into preparing the boys for the rugby season …..the age group sides only came together a week before their first games ……is this usual at house or is the school policy of such that they have to allow the summer sports to finish …..some of the comments from the rugby loving parents is that the boys seem unfit ??

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  103. @ Greenblooded- A great pity indeed and not just at Ist team level. Great competition down the line. I think it was Westers that made the comment about a possible match up and maybe he can give some elaboration.
    @ Old school- are you saying that the old ville OBs cannot be vocal too. :lol: There will be lots of close encounters and so the build-up will be electric. I might have to have a drip ready at Waxy’s in preparation
    My nephew played MHS 1sts last year and they defintely seemed behind Westville in terms of pre-season conditioning and selection. They however appeared to be fresher towards the end of a fantastic season and so maybe got the balance right. Interesting to find out what is the ideal/scientific scenario by looking at those schools that finish the stronger.

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  104. @oldschool: I had heard that they weren’t prepared to sacrifice the summer sports for rugby and only started training a week before their first game (not sure about 1st), but purely hearsay. Maybe the subtle message is ‘school isn’t about rugby at any cost’. Anyway, I’m sure we add to the preassure via our parental and OB fanatism, but it is what it is. I agree that KZN is off the pace somewhat relative to other regions, and we have been for some time.

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  105. @star: The good news is that for the first time in many years Westville have 1st team cricketers playing 1st team rugby. The cricket boys started off slowly but now seem to be finding form and fitness. Lets hope we peak as a team by the time we play MC. In years gone bye I recall Westville starting off very strong and fading at season end. i don’t see that happening this year. So the preparation that was done or not done seems to be working!!

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  106. @ Engelsman- maybe the phase in approach is the key :lol: And as G/B has asked where are Roger/KES Dutchy ect hiding :mrgreen: . For Westville to travel to the Red Den and play at altitude winning 15 of the 23 games,losing 7 and drawing one is a massive turn around from last year. They also only lost the one A game(u16a). The hockey boys also did not do too badly winning 11 of the 13 games and all the A team games and Ists. The squash boys also got in on the act convincingly beating both KES and St Johns. The coastal Souties are showing a bit of steel now.Big challenge against Kearsney and MC to come though.

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  107. @star: @GreenBlooded: not hiding at all – stated on another thread that I thought Westville would break their ten year duck. I am surprised at the score and that KES were leading 11-0 at half time 8-O. KES are mediocre at best this year but seem to have picked up a habit of falling away badly in the 2nd half. Against Affies they were 15-6 down at half time and got caned in the 2nd half as well – fitness an issue maybe. It doesn’t get any easier as they still have Jeppe, Boys High, College and Monnas to come – could end very ugly :evil:

    I don’t pay much attention to U14 and U15 results – in JHB English speaking kids generally play rugby for the first time at High School and get better as they get older.

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  108. @ Roger- I know it is semantics but you will find it is a 8 year duck( inclusive of the all important draw in 2009) :lol: Also your wins were pretty much even over the age groups. 1 in U14, and 2 in each of the others.In the opens you won the 4ths and 6ths. How many wins did you get against Affies?Just pulling about hiding though :mrgreen:

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  109. @star: 5 I think – including 3rds and 4ths so surprising we lost there as these include most of the very succesful U16 group from last year :roll:

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  110. @ludz @playa I wasn’t at the game. Sounds like Selborne deserved winners from what I have heard. Looking forward to next weekend when Dale take on Selborne. I know the guys have been working hard. Have changed flyhalf and looking to come out flying.

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  111. @Roger: IMHO your 1sts are not as bad as you may think. I thought that they are quite decent and I would not be surprised to see them beat Jeppe or PBHS. Their structures are good. I also like their backline. The back 3 were very safe under the high ball. The pack lacks the size and power of last year’s pack, but their lineouts were very good. Thank you for your excellent hospitality as always.

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  112. @Roger: If memory serves me correctly your U16A team were the only team in the age group to beat Westville in Jhb last year. I stand to be corrcted.
    Just a comment on the reffing which often seems to go the way of the home team. In most games on Saturday this was not the case. The guy who reffed the 3rds was an excellent ref. However the young man who reffed the 4ths was poor. Awarded a try to KES when the KES linesman had put his flag up. Very poor. Also spent a lot of time worrying about people off the pitch instead of concentrating on the game.
    On a positive note, the hosting was superb, the facilities excellent and the food and beverage facilities were top class. Hope you managed to collect lots of money for the lightning fund at the tea and cake table. Did my bit gladly there. Hope the boys are all doing well.

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  113. @star: Re Gleenwood fixtures, latest I heard was that some sort of agreement has been reached and sporting fixtures will resume. However, no time could be found to play a round of rugby fixtures so it appears we will have to wait until next year. Great pity because Westville still have fixtures agaisnt George Campbell and Port Natal to come where again not all teams will get a game.

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  114. Queenian: Went past the game yesterday at Selborne was quite weird having this derby with only a hand full of Queens boys there.

    All i can say about the game was it looked liked Queens were going to explode and put 30 past Selborne but just like some of the other games i have watched them play this year they for some reason just never seem to get going and let Selborne back into the game. Must admit i am now starting to doubt the new Queens coaching setup this is a team that should maybe have lost 1 game this year but now sit with 4 losses and besides the Affies game should have won with ease.

    No plan/bad handling/and sensless kicking and what seems to be going to sleep on the job looks like the order of the day.

    So far only the MC game have they lived up to there potenial, looks like a massively dissapointing year going forward.

    Grey PE on Saturday looks like could be along day at the office for Queens.

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  115. @Playa: Queens let themselves down just something missing in there game plan maybe the spark will happen on Saturday against Grey PE.

    @Ludz: Dont know much of the Queens coaches this year but it seems like there is know plan in place looks like they picth at the game and hope something happens.

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  116. @rugbyfan Any credit for Selborne, must have done something right, to get back into the game, how did they play,saw them against Grey Bloem, was not impressed.

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  117. @spilly: Selborne must be given alot of credit they hung in there when it looked like things would get away from them and took there chances, the way they played i think you must give there coach his due he realized if Queens did not score and the handling errors started he players pounced on that and got the result they were looking for.

    I think both teams are currently under performing and could be alot better than they are doing. Must admit the Queens 2nd team seamed to make the same mistakes as the 1st team so maybe they should look at what the underlining problem is.

    I did watch some of the games on Saturday as well Selborne Under 15A were really impressive although i see the Queens Under15A either have players hurt or dropped for some reason as there were a few faces not there that i have seen playing against Brandwag and Dale.

    Under14A i think Selborne would consider themselves a bit lucky on there win Queens seemed the better team. Under16A was more a bad Selborne team just beat a shocking Queens team both Under16A teams are not great.

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  118. @spilly: @rugbyfan: Ye i think Rugbyfan is right watched Queens play Brandwag and Dale and they just dont seem to get going lot of promise and not much else. Did not see the game against Selborne so i cannot comment but Selborne won at that is what counts.

    @rugbyfan: Ye there are 3 players currentl hurt in the Under15A team which is hurting them but given that i still think Selborne has the better team. Queens Under14A are quite good just lack a bit of weight up front.

    And the less said about Queens Under16A the better or at least they tackle not much else i think they are in for a hiding to nothing against Grey PE this weekend.

    As for Queens 1st vs Grey PE this weekend i think it depends on which team pitches up, if the one with the bad ball handling skills pitches Grey will put 30 past them and if the one that catches the ball pitches Grey PE will battle and might even have to wait another year before they get the Queens monkey off there back.

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  119. @Westers: I can only concur with your comments regarding the referees for the 3rd and 4th games . I was in the corner when the KES player stepped out and the ref over ruled the linesman and his marching Westville back to get the final kick within range defies belief . There was also the incident when the Westville hooker was tacked early just before the end with no KES player in front of him and a Westville winger outside him . It is just sad when you see such a one eyed ref . I agree the 3rd team ref was very good ! Apart from this a great time was had by all and thanks to KES for putting on a really good day !

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  120. @spilly: How things have changed up until 1990 for all teams played QC vs Selborne(1st team all the way to under 14G) at there derbies which happen twice a year Queens had a 61% win ratio. Since 1990 only a 34% win ratio and the last 10 years only a 24% win ration.

    What a bummer must be a lot of Old Queenians sons at Selborne for this to happen. I suppose things happen we have no control over.

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  121. @Queenian What a great school Queens is always had a soft spot , nearly went to Queens many years ago , circumstances bought me too Selborne, another great school. Agree about the u 15 A team, saw them against Grey Bloem , great win this is the team to watch for the future awesome forwards and backs. If they all stay together ,this could be one of Selbornes great sides in 4 years.

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  122. Look I think our u16A side is coming along nicely, they’ve grown a bit, but they’ve never been a confident bunch of boys (probably from being told how poor they were all these years, I admit am guilty as well). They seem fitter this year, Mr Boy has done some good with these boys. Selborne 16A weren’t great at all, but I thought my boys defend well in the 1st half. I think 1 victory will lift their heads. I hope they come right soon.

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  123. 15A played gutless rugby, they just never gave it anything, they missed Cameron Cato at outside centre, out till the 2nd term, a big loss

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  124. 14A, think our boys were very unlucky to lose, both teams weren’t that great

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  125. @spilly: You “nearly” went to Queens? As I can recall, ALL the Spillys went to QC. The question is how did you NOT go to QC?

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  126. @BOG: He made is he,s mind up becuase he thought you went to Queens but only found out after he started at Selborne that you were actual at the GCB Queenstown branch “JJS” :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:

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  127. @BOG: How many of the Schooling boys were at GCB as there quite a few at Queens as well.

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  128. @Queenian:@rugbyfan: I just know OF Waldo and do not KNOW him. If I remember correctly, he joined the SAP after school- serious. ( probably why he avoided Queens) No, fact is that most of the Spillys did go to Queens. At least the ones from Elliot/Barkly/Ugie regions. This “Spilly” s ancestors must be the ones who had trading stations in the old Transkei. No more Transkei, trading stations and no more Queens. By the way, there is a good historic overview of the GCB/ Affies clashes since 1953. See their FB. If you look at the picture of the 1967 side, you will see Waldo in the back row, extreme left.

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  129. @BOG: I know Mike and Doug Schooling were at Queens in the 70,s they were good rugby players.

    I see that Jannie De Villiers kids also landed up at GCB he was at Queens in about 1977 and was Headmaster of our alma mata JJS for years. He brother farms near Venterstad was also at Queens think he,s kids also went to GCB

    I think we should charge you folk a finders fee! :mrgreen:

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  130. @BOG: Not to mention names there is another Queens rugby great from the 80,s who farms near Barkley East who,s 3 sons are at Queens Junior also might send he,s kids to GCB in senior school.

    I think we should change GCB letter head to Queens College trading as Grey Bloem :lol:

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  131. @Queenian: The eastiest is just change the Queens letter head to Queens College feeder school to Grey College. Ha Ha :mrgreen:

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  132. @rugbyfan: @BOG: Imagine if Queens played Grey Bloem now the “Headlines” would say:

    Queens College vs Queens/Grey Inv XV

    Who would the parents shout for? :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen:

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  133. @Queenian: Several years ago, (more than 10 I suppose) the Sharks played the Lions and about the half of each team, were former FS players(mostly Grey if I recall correctly) I walked into the pub with my FS flag (my drinking days). They looked at me as if I was crazy but I told them that I was there to support the FS Lions and the FS Sharks- in both sides. I think I know Badboys father and uncle. Just not sure which one is his father and which his uncle. They came to GCB from Queens, those years, both centres, one with the initial J and the other P

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  134. @BOG: Ye i remember those two boys who went from Queens to GCB there two first cousins stayed at Queens.

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